Going by Samsung’s usual launch schedule, the Galaxy Note 5 would be less than two months away from getting an official announcement at this point of time. Going by recent rumors, however, the time before the Note 5 is unveiled would be even shorter. Well, it looks like the latter is what we will have to believe in, as our insiders have revealed today the the Galaxy Note 5 will be announced on August 12, and go on sale around two weeks later on August 21.
We have also learned that the Galaxy S6 edge Plus will be launched as the Galaxy S6 edge+, and will be announced alongside the Note 5 on the same date. Samsung’s plan to launch two big handsets at the same time (and risking one device eating into the sales of the other) was leaked by a report out of the Korean press a few hours ago, and we can confirm that it is indeed what the company intends to do. The two devices will also be accompanied by the official launch of Samsung Pay, at least for the US market.
Now, let’s move on to a few details of the Galaxy Note 5 and Galaxy S6 edge+. First, Samsung’s next phablet flagship. Let’s get one of the most important aspects of the phone out of the way: The Note 5 will not have a microSD slot, something we had guessed would be the case earlier this month. In terms of design, the phone will basically be a blown-up version of the Galaxy S6. But like the Galaxy A8, the Note 5 will have extremely thin screen bezel, a design change that might come in handy in terms of ergonomics keeping in consideration the new metal and glass design that the Note 5 is expected to feature.
The S Pen will also be seeing a few design changes. According to the information we’ve received, the stylus will look more like a pen this time around (and apparently feel like one, too) and will have the same color as the color of the device. Speaking of colors, the Galaxy Note 5 will be offered in silver, gold, black and white options; these are the same options we’ve seen on the Note 4, though the glass construction on the Note 5 is sure to make these same-old colors look considerably better.
When it comes to the Galaxy S6 edge+, there’s really not much to tell. The device will be a phablet version of the Galaxy S6 edge, with a curve on either side of the screen and the same color options as the Note 5. We can, however, confirm that the S6 edge+ will be powered by the Exynos 7420 instead of a Snapdragon 808, and have 3GB of RAM. Oh, and as we said yesterday, the Note 5 will certainly become the first Samsung phone to feature 4GB of RAM. We’re guessing storage options would be the same as the Galaxy S6 lineup, though it would be great if Samsung would make the 64GB variant the base model to make up for the lack of expandable storage.
Provided all the information we have been given turns out to be correct, Samsung’s next UNPACKED event could be one of its biggest yet, if only because of the number of things it will announce on a single day. The August launch seems too early to be true, but with numerous rumors pointing at Samsung moving faster with the Galaxy Note 5, it certainly looks like we will be hearing everything from the horse’s mouth in under a month from now.
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toofimoofi said:
Going by Samsung’s usual launch schedule.....
Going by recent rumors, however.....
Well, it looks like the latter is what we will have to believe in....
as our insiders have revealed today.....
was leaked by a report out of the Korean press a few hours ago..
According to the information we’ve received....
When it comes to the Galaxy S6 edge+, there’s really not much to tell....
We’re guessing....... storage options would be the same as the Galaxy S6 lineup, though it would be great if Samsung would make the 64GB variant the base model to make up for the lack of expandable storage.
Provided all the information we have been given turns out to be correct.....
but with numerous rumors pointing at Samsung moving faster with the Galaxy Note 5, it certainly looks like we will be hearing everything from the horse’s mouth in under a month from now...
http://www.sammobile.com/2015/07/14...edge-coming-august-12-on-sale-from-august-21/
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was leaked by a report out of the Korean press a few hours ago..
Samsung has not commented on these reports so it’s official position on the matter is not known. From that own article.
Enough with the sammobile could be, might be...
After the mess that was the Note 4 release I don't believe anything until I have a device in my hand.
Me and my N4 will be here if you need us lol.
To be honest why would anyone with an Exynos Note 4 update; the SoC is only slightly improved as is the nand and ram, but the screen is pretty much the same and no microsd support nor swappable batteries? Being released in August also means no Android M at launch, which means you'll be waiting until Jan/Feb for the update. Guessing it'll have the same cameras as the S6 which is pretty much on par with the Note 4's.
***In case this is true***
Now we know the reason our Note 4 is the worst flagship in the updates department. They were planning for a faster Note 5 release to beat Apple. and not respect the 1 year release they had til now. Not cool Samsung.
Well if it's true about it being a blown up version of S6 then not going to get it... No sdcard and non removable battery, I think it's a terrible choice
GALAXY NOTE II... WHAT ELSE?
mythoc said:
***In case this is true***
Now we know the reason our Note 4 is the worst flagship in the updates department. They were planning for a faster Note 5 release to beat Apple. and not respect the 1 year release they had til now. Not cool Samsung.
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Samsung's problem is that they have 100000000 different devices to support and different variants of those devices for different regions. No wonder they don't have the time to update all of their phones at once.
Normally I buy a new phone every year but this might be the first time I'll stay on the Note 4 for a year longer. At the moment I don't feel like re-doing all the work we did on CM12.1 Note 4 Snapdragon, for the Note 5 again. Slayher has serious health issue's, so he won't be able to work on it neither. And RaymanFX has just reached the early alpha/beta stages of getting CM running on the 910C Exynos variant, so I'd also doubt he'll jump onto the Note 5.
So the Note 5 might not get a lot dev support and will most likely not feature AOSP for a long time and therefore not something I'd personally be interested in, let alone buy.
Another spam thread. Don't listen to hear say because that only leads to disappointment! Wait for the official announcement from Samsung.
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Another spam thread. Don't listen to hear say because that only leads to disappointment! Wait for the official announcement from Samsung.
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So sammobile, engadget and wall street journal are all spam news? Just face it, samsung has gived us the finger with this iphone-like pathway theyre taking.
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To be honest why would anyone with an Exynos Note 4 update; the SoC is only slightly improved as is the nand and ram, but the screen is pretty much the same and no microsd support nor swappable batteries? Being released in August also means no Android M at launch, which means you'll be waiting until Jan/Feb for the update. Guessing it'll have the same cameras as the S6 which is pretty much on par with the Note 4's.
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Agree wholeheartedly (if the rumours of features (or lack of) are anything to go by). Its a fat S6. That's it.
I see this as the end of the road for me and Samsung. In so many more ways - I won't buy their next tablet and find no need to buy their TV's which I do now because they integrate well with my phone and tablet. Game over.
All the benefits of the note series have been removed (SD slot, removable battery). I wonder also how easy the back is to shatter. Anyone chucked an s6 on the pavement yet!?
I don't care about larger faster phone memory. I don't care about wireless charging - we don't all carry charger around or have access to power sockets while out and about.
POOR decision Samsung - just because you are an Apple wannabe. In the past you did things differently - and that's what we liked about the note! You have missed a trick and no doubt your ability to remain a key player in the phone market / recover damaging lack of profit as you become more like apple in design everyday.
I've actually seen very few positive posts about the note 5. As opposed to when the N4 was in rumourville - excitement reigned. What a fail.
Note 5 = Samsung Galaxy S6 note
Bleh!
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Note 5 = Samsung Galaxy S6 note
Bleh!
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The Note line has always been a bigger and S-Pen'd version of the S series though. The Note 2 was a big S3 and the Note 3 a big S4 etc. So this hasn't stopped massive sales of the Note series. I do agree that it would be nice to have something different however, but Samsung (and other OEMs) make business decisions that sometimes don't seem right to consumers.
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but Samsung (and other OEMs) make business decisions that sometimes don't seem right to consumers.
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and watch their profits slump even further...
Well i want to know how they want to beat the leaked antutu score of the upcoming LG nexus 5 2015 (85000+) i own the snapdragon note 4 and hope the note 5 will be more powerfull in 3d performance.
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To be honest why would anyone with an Exynos Note 4 update; the SoC is only slightly improved as is the nand and ram, but the screen is pretty much the same and no microsd support nor swappable batteries? Being released in August also means no Android M at launch, which means you'll be waiting until Jan/Feb for the update. Guessing it'll have the same cameras as the S6 which is pretty much on par with the Note 4's.
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Note 5 will have RAW camera support - it is huge difference between Note 4 and 5.
Battery 4100 vs 3200 is enormous improvement - it is not "non removable". Every battery can be replaced but it will take more to do. You will not do this in train.
Lack of SD card is not an issue IMHO.
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Agree wholeheartedly (if the rumours of features (or lack of) are anything to go by). Its a fat S6. That's it.
I see this as the end of the road for me and Samsung. In so many more ways - I won't buy their next tablet and find no need to buy their TV's which I do now because they integrate well with my phone and tablet. Game over.
All the benefits of the note series have been removed (SD slot, removable battery). I wonder also how easy the back is to shatter. Anyone chucked an s6 on the pavement yet!?
I don't care about larger faster phone memory. I don't care about wireless charging - we don't all carry charger around or have access to power sockets while out and about.
POOR decision Samsung - just because you are an Apple wannabe. In the past you did things differently - and that's what we liked about the note! You have missed a trick and no doubt your ability to remain a key player in the phone market / recover damaging lack of profit as you become more like apple in design everyday.
I've actually seen very few positive posts about the note 5. As opposed to when the N4 was in rumourville - excitement reigned. What a fail.
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Here's a new flash for you. Was the previous Note's not a model after the S line at the time? This is nothing new.
What iPhone and iPad will you be switching to? With your change, you can now get the new 99.5" Apple Liquid Cooled LED and it comes with 3D contacts for free.
The benefits of having a removable SD slot and battery are very subjective:
The ability to add more storage and to swap out the battery is great, however, you can also accomplish this with a battery bank and Cloud storage. Obviously the swap is more convenient, but at the end of the day you obtain the same results. The fact here is that most users don't swap out batteries left and right and the same goes for SD Cards. Solution = Back up your phone, keep it organized, use a Cloud, keep only what you really need and eliminate dead weight files just sitting on your phone, and use a battery bank. There are a lot to choose from.
Any phone that is dropped will take a beating. There's no way around it unless you obviously have a nice case on it that can take an impact to protect the phone. Basing a buying decision on whether a phone will hold up from a drop is a little far fetched. Any phone will incur some damage. Solution = Insurance, which with TM JUMP it's all included. Well and of course use a good case.
If you don't care about a faster phone with more memory, than just stick with the Note 4. What's the problem?
The decision on Samsung's part is based on the majority. Welcome to the real world. That's just how it works. Samsung will always be a key player in the phone market, whether you like it or not. They are a huge multi-billion dollar conglomerate with many different divisions other than mobile phones.
Apple wannabe? Hmmm...Samsung creates the phablet culture and years later Apple comes out with the iPhone 6 Plus and....this makes Samsung a wannabe? I don't think so.... mind you Samsung and LG (both S.Korean giants) provide numerous parts for Apple products. iPhone's IPS Screen is LG, internal motherboard and varies chip-sets are by Samsung, battery cell is Samsung and more.... Some variants were slightly different where some variants had IPS's by Sharp, which Samsung owns a part of Sharp. So before you go blabbering about calling a Tech Giant a wannabe, I'd think twice about it.... but of course you're just speaking out of emotions right?
Here's some food for thought to help you understand further Samsung's decision:
Most people don't need more than 64GB of storage.
Most people don't swap out batteries twice a day.
Most people have several charging options available to them at any given time. Home, Work, Car, Battery Bank, etc...
So being that these are true for the vast majority, it is very logical for Samsung to have made the decision to change up the design language in going with a uni-body frame, that bring about many benefits.
Lets look at the positive:
The Note 5 has...
Way bigger battery (4100mAh) from the Note 4.
Bigger storage option. 128GB
Faster and better CPU.
More RAM.
Better screen. (tba)
Flat front glass, which is a dream come true for glass-screen protector users. (No more 2.5D madness. Finally an edge to edge coverage.)
Uni Body frame...stronger, sturdier, lighter, and just overall a better platform to be able to pack the punch.
Not everyone has the same needs.
Finally the ultimate solution. For all the whiners. SOLUTION = STAY WITH YOUR NOTE 4!
SIMPLE...Everyone's happy.
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The Note line has always been a bigger and S-Pen'd version of the S series though. The Note 2 was a big S3 and the Note 3 a big S4 etc. So this hasn't stopped massive sales of the Note series. I do agree that it would be nice to have something different however, but Samsung (and other OEMs) make business decisions that sometimes don't seem right to consumers.
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Well said. It's funny how so many people find it such a surprise that the Note 5 models after the S6, like it's some big surprise.
Kids....SMH
iunlock said:
SD card slot is not a benefit in today's world with Unlimited Cloud storage. If you really need more than 128GB of storage then use a cloud. Simple.
Removable battery? Who cares! Like 4100mAh isn't enough. That's what chargers are for...ever heard of battery banks?
It cracks me up to see people like you crying over petty stuff and completely over looking the benefits of the new releases...
Note 5:
Better built aluminum uni-body phone.
Better Screen.
Bigger internal SD storage. Upto 128GB
Bigger battery. 4100mAh
Faster CPU.
More RAM.
Best of all, a smooth front screen for all the Glass screen protector fans out there. Finally...edge to edge coverage.
Not everyone has the same needs, but you act like the pattern of the note series all of a sudden has changed? Of course the Note 5 will model after the S6. As it was for the Note 4....so what's the fuss?
Good luck with your make over lol... cracks me up...
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What an obnoxious post. Who's crying?? Simply feeding back my dis-satisfaction with the change of direction made. This is an open forum and I don't see any rules suggesting myself and many others can't do this.:silly:
If you want a phone that looks like an S6 or ip6, why buy the Note???! - which has always been targeted at high users that do want the flexibility it provides.
It now becomes an S6 plus or an overpriced Oneplus with a stylus..
I'll wait and see, I guess.
MicroSD card and replaceable battery are critical to my use (I swap batteries at least once a day), and I'd really like if the western versions of the Note5 had Dual SIM support.
The Notes are work tools, not fashion accessories, and I use them as such.
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Now that the S6 is out and the whole world saw Samsung take out expandable storage & removable battery in the S6 in favor of design, does anyone think they will do this to the Note 5 as well?
I certainly hope not because this will be the last Samsung I will buy ever again.
If they do it would be like buying a nexus
I think they will drop both, but I hope not.
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I think they will drop both, but I hope not.
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I hope not, too.
But, if the Note line is supposed to be for power users and the S line for normal users, then they should be smart and not ditch the expandable storage and removable battery.
The Note series isn't been pushed for its design aspects as much as its feature set. The Note series is also very business orientated and because of that the removable battery is a seriously important feature. bringing an extra battery is a must for most business users who are away from the office a lot or travel and such. There would be no point in removing the MicroSD slot if they still have a removable battery,
Now of course Samsung don't want to brand the Note series that way, but ultimately a large phone such as the Note would see no benefit from a premium design such as the S6 as the general population aren't going to go for phones much bigger than the S6 and as such removing features for such a thing would be counter productive.
At least I hope so. If Samsung remove the MicroSD slot from the Note series, I will stick with the Note 4 for as long as possible and then move to another company. Samsung can scream all of the nonsense they what, copying Apple's greed for storage strangled devices is nothing short of pathetic. If your going that route, then 64GB better be the standard. Why bother advertising 2k display here, 4K camera there, if people don't have the storage to deal with higher size content.
I hope Samsung thinks in the same way for Note 5. Otherwise I will be moving to iPhone 6S plus
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If they do it would be like buying a nexus
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Yeah and for one I'd be seriously tempted to choose the Nexus. The N6 is a pretty sweet phone, the only reason I don't have one is that it's not as good as the Note 4. Removable battery and micro sd slot being 2/3 of the reasons I have the Note 4 instead.
If they do then bye ? Samsung
Depends upon the sales of s6
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Depends upon the sales of s6
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Yup, and of course feedback. The thing is though that samsung has the ability to do both, but in order to improve their margins they have gone the Apple route, a route which I think they will stay on as long as it brings in greater profits, which is going to be the case due to the S6 actually being quite awesome in comparison to the rest of the phones out there.
Note 5 will keep both because its designed for power users on the go. The S6 is more for the mainstream crowed like Iphones sheeple.
If they do it's bye bye Samsung for me too after Captivate, S3, Note 2, Note 4.
If s6 sales fail then they wont.
I know I wont buy a pjone without microsd.
I think Samsung will first see how people react to the S6 once on the market and base their decision around that for their next phones (including Note 5). However, I hate to say that I think non-removable batteries and nonexpandible storage are the future (as much as I hate it). Google is really encouraging these kinds of features and many companies may follow in their footsteps.
I read somewhere a day ago that the 32GB S6 will have expandible storage. The slot is under a flap cover that's on the top of the phone instead of under the cover. There's another dlot on the sidr of the phone for the sim. That was not officially confirmed though, and I think the people discussing it were only basing it on the photos and hands-on footages. But they all see one distinct slot, a distinct flap covering something, and a micro USB port on the phone. I'd confirm it myself, but I can't tell based on images, what version of the S6 I'm looking at.
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If s6 sales fail then they wont.
I know I wont buy a pjone without microsd.
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I have a feeling the S6 will actually be a big hit with consumers. It's visually appealing and has great specs. Most mainstream users don't swap out batteries or load up large SD cards. With 64GB versions to be sold I expect the S6 will do very well, although I'm hoping that Samsung leaves the SD card and replaceable battery in the Note 5. That would help distinguish their mainstream S6 from the power-user Note model. As it stood before, the Note was simply a more powerful version of the S6 with an S-Pen..
S6 pre orders have already smashed records and launch is sill a few weeks away. Like it or not, these sales figures will have an influence on Samsung's design team going forward. In other words don't be surprised if the Note 5 has a solid glass or possibly metal back.
It would be OK with me if they made sure higher storage options are available and not to hard to find. Android is making it tough for OEMs to have ext storage. I know I needed root to access mine the way I wanted to.
Either way I am not worried because the note 4 is the last device for awhile.
http://phandroid.com/2015/03/09/galaxy-s6-pre-orders/
According to Korea Times, Samsung has confirmed that a combined 20 million+ units of the Samsung Galaxy S6 and S6 Edge have been pre-ordered. More specifically, the Samsung Galaxy S6 commands an overwhelming majority of that number with 15 million units, while the Edge variant accounts for about 5 million. Well, if you don’t recall, Apple’s iPhone 6 and iPhone 6 Plus pre-sales were pegged at a whopping 4 million.
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This does not bode well for the Note 5. We have to constantly let Samsung know on their Facebook page that they SHOULD NOT get rid of expandable storage or removable battery.
https://www.facebook.com/SamsungMobileUSA
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http://phandroid.com/2015/03/09/galaxy-s6-pre-orders/
This does not bode well for the Note 5. We have to constantly let Samsung know on their Facebook page that they SHOULD NOT get rid of expandable storage or removable battery.
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I'm not going to even bother do that. I will just not buy it.
That should send the message.
So if note 5 has no external storage and no removable battery then no one that want these features should buy it.
Then I bet note 6 will have whatever we want.
If they removed either, I would not by their product and have to look for an alternative from one of their competitors.
I've owned Samsung galaxy Notes 2,3 and 4 but for the first time I'm going to give this next edition a miss.
No SD card or removable battery is like Windows 8 without the start button and will IMHO prove to be a similar disaster for Samsung.
However, it's not just this as the specs feel more like a downgrade and a stop-gap, the equivalent of a Note 4s.
So I'm in the market for a new phone from a different manufacturer and looking around at what's coming up.
Hopefully they'll 'take note' (pardon the pun) for Note 6!
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I've owned Samsung galaxy Notes 2,3 and 4 but for the first time I'm going to give this next edition a miss.
No SD card or removable battery is like Windows 8 without the start button and will IMHO prove to be a similar disaster for Samsung.
However, it's not just this as the specs feel more like a downgrade and a stop-gap, the equivalent of a Note 4s.
So I'm in the market for a new phone from a different manufacturer and looking around at what's coming up.
Hopefully they'll 'take note' (pardon the pun) for Note 6!
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Lets wait until Unpacked before the "Samsung is going down/doomed/Note 5 sucks etc..." parade.
People posting around here like they have already used a Note 5 when we do not know the final spec yet and what else it may bring.
POLO_i780 said:
Lets wait until Unpacked before the "Samsung is going down/doomed/Note 5 sucks etc..." parade.
People posting around here like they have already used a Note 5 when we do not know the final spec yet and what else it may bring.
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Not sure under which rock you live but it has been raining and Samsung's roof is leaking. We already know that it's going to be using a 1440p screen, 4Gb DDR4 ram, Exynos 7422 SoC, same camera as the S6, and the same NAND as well. The only "new" thing they are going to introduce has something to do with audio quality. So no sd-card nor swappable battery. Note 5 is also going to be sporting the same ****ty touchwiz version as the S6/S6 Edge, that is even more flawed than the version for the Note 4 considering it is running on better hardware yet somehow performs worse.
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Not sure under which rock you live but it has been raining and Samsung's roof is leaking. We already know that it's going to be using a 1440p screen, 4Gb DDR4 ram, Exynos 7422 SoC, same camera as the S6, and the same NAND as well. The only "new" thing they are going to introduce has something to do with audio quality. So no sd-card nor swappable battery. Note 5 is also going to be sporting the same ****ty touchwiz version as the S6/S6 Edge, that is even more flawed than the version for the Note 4 considering it is running on better hardware yet somehow performs worse.
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No I haven't, but calling a phone that you have not used yet ****ty and so on is not exactly smart. The specs don't tell the whole story and it may have many improvements over the S6 and Edge in its TW by the time it gets released.
Unless you have played with a fully functional retail unit of the Note 5, I'd suggest reserving judgement.
Like I said, people acting like they have already used a Note 5 without knowing everything about it. A lot can be changed between now and release, especially in terms of software.
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No I haven't, but calling a phone that you have not used yet ****ty and so on is not exactly smart. The specs don't tell the whole story and it may have many improvements over the S6 and Edge in its TW by the time it gets released.
Unless you have played with a fully functional retail unit of the Note 5, I'd suggest reserving judgement.
Like I said, people acting like they have already used a Note 5 without knowing everything about it. A lot can be changed between now and release, especially in terms of software.
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There are leaks everywhere and even if the software is improved it's not going to matter considering android m is launching later this year, as the note 5 won't get the update until much later. The S7 is going to sport Samsung custom core SoC so support for the note 5 is going to be even shorter (note 6 being a larger version of the s7). Oh I also forgot to mention that the note 5 is going to have a SMALLER battery than the Note 4 (3000mAh) and no IR blaster.
I'd wager the note 5 is going to be Samsung worst selling galaxy device ever.
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There are leaks everywhere and even if the software is improved it's not going to matter considering android m is launching later this year, as the note 5 won't get the update until much later. The S7 is going to sport Samsung custom core SoC so support for the note 5 is going to be even shorter (note 6 being a larger version of the s7). Oh I also forgot to mention that the note 5 is going to have a SMALLER battery than the Note 4 (3000mAh) and no IR blaster.
I'd wager the note 5 is going to be Samsung worst selling galaxy device ever.
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Well if the rumours are correct and the Note 5 has a limited release, then yes it will not sell the way others have, that is pretty obvious.
Oh wow, speaking of Note 6 already, you and I do not know how the mobile industry will be next year, Samsung may just have to change direction with the Note 6, maybe even make a diff. variant of it as they did Note Edge. Again, a few specs do not tell the story.
We are in 2015, yet people are as closed minded as they were decades ago.
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Well if the rumours are correct and the Note 5 has a limited release, then yes it will not sell the way others have, that is pretty obvious.
Oh wow, speaking of Note 6 already, you and I do not know how the mobile industry will be next year, Samsung may just have to change direction with the Note 6, maybe even make a diff. variant of it as they did Note Edge. Again, a few specs do not tell the story.
We are in 2015, yet people are as closed minded as they were decades ago.
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I dont think its close mindedness, but more like a major letdown to the fans of the Note series.
Aside from the s pen, folks loved the note for its flexibility in storage, and its ease of using it for days with spare batteries and such. Sure the giant screen was part of it, but those other things turned out to be important parts of what made the note series such a "cult" hit..
Now, with alot of those things disappearing, its easy to understand why so many folks are going to abandon the Note series.
It doesnt mean they are closed minded, they are just upset that some of the major features that kept them coming back to the Note series wont be there any more.
And you cant blame people for that..
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I dont think its close mindedness, but more like a major letdown to the fans of the Note series.
Aside from the s pen, folks loved the note for its flexibility in storage, and its ease of using it for days with spare batteries and such. Sure the giant screen was part of it, but those other things turned out to be important parts of what made the note series such a "cult" hit..
Now, with alot of those things disappearing, its easy to understand why so many folks are going to abandon the Note series.
It doesnt mean they are closed minded, they are just upset that some of the major features that kept them coming back to the Note series wont be there any more.
And you cant blame people for that..
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There are now cases that can bring MicroSD support and so on, but I say lets wait and see what happens at Unpacked.
These rumours have gone up and down, 1st it had a 4100mAh battery and now its 3000mAh, some report Exynos 7422 and others 7420, but I guess the 7422 will be international and 7420 will be USA. Some report the Dual Sim variant will have a MicroSD slot yet the S6 Duos never had a MicroSD slot, and then there's the software which can be subject to major change between now and release.
What I am saying is, leave your mind open up until Unpacked. I remember last year when everyone was convinced we would get a Galaxy S5 Prime with metal build, instead we got a Note Edge.
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Another rumour
https://www.thegioididong.com/tin-tuc/thong-so-ky-thuat-cua-galaxy-note-5-va-s6-edge-plus-681235
Claiming:
4100mAh battery
32GB internal with MicroSD support
AND IR Blaster
LOL, Unpacked must just come and put and end to this madness.
Losing the SD card and replaceable battery is bad enough IMO
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There are leaks everywhere and even if the software is improved it's not going to matter considering android m is launching later this year, as the note 5 won't get the update until much later. The S7 is going to sport Samsung custom core SoC so support for the note 5 is going to be even shorter (note 6 being a larger version of the s7). Oh I also forgot to mention that the note 5 is going to have a SMALLER battery than the Note 4 (3000mAh) and no IR blaster.
I'd wager the note 5 is going to be Samsung worst selling galaxy device ever.
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You said the Note 5 was going to have a smaller battery than the Note 4, at 3000mAh, yet as is typical of rumors, they conflict, I up you one with a very recent image of a Note 5 retail box that claims 4100mAh battery:
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Is-this-the-box-for-the-Samsung-Galaxy-Note-5_id72423
This is my problem with prejudging before a phone is even announced, I am still unsure what to believe. You had already made your mind up that it is a 3000mAh battery, due to another rumor. There have been multiple rumors that claim either 3000mAh or 4100mAh, and I also posted a link of a spec sheet which claimed IR Blaster, but another rumor claimed no IR Blaster, and we are not even sure if the Note 5 images we have been seeing are not early prototypes.
I cannot understand how people can draw a conclusion based solely on rumors. One thing it does do is keep the stock market an interesting place though, I've made and lost money due to rumors, lol.
Well, I don't think going from the sd805 to the exynos 7420/7422 is a minor upgrade (considering how fast the s6 with it is)
So much hate for a device not yet released. If you don't like it don't buy it, simple as....
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You said the Note 5 was going to have a smaller battery than the Note 4, at 3000mAh, yet as is typical of rumors, they conflict, I up you one with a very recent image of a Note 5 retail box that claims 4100mAh battery:
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Is-this-the-box-for-the-Samsung-Galaxy-Note-5_id72423
This is my problem with prejudging before a phone is even announced, I am still unsure what to believe. You had already made your mind up that it is a 3000mAh battery, due to another rumor. There have been multiple rumors that claim either 3000mAh or 4100mAh, and I also posted a link of a spec sheet which claimed IR Blaster, but another rumor claimed no IR Blaster, and we are not even sure if the Note 5 images we have been seeing are not early prototypes.
I cannot understand how people can draw a conclusion based solely on rumors. One thing it does do is keep the stock market an interesting place though, I've made and lost money due to rumors, lol.
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Well the 3000mAh was a bit of a stretch even for samsung, but that doesn't mean the Note 5 is going to be anything but a large S6. My issue though with samsung has nothing to do with the hardware, but with how Samsung treats their customers; I know that they don't guarantee any updates, but they should have figured out by now that people always want the latest updates along with the latest interface (that's why people keep buying iPhones). It's just a shame to see samsung making the same mistakes over and over again letting Apple walk all over them (Android as a whole suffers). Wish Samsung would seize making cheap low-end devices and just keep their previous gen models as the mid- and low-end phones, in order to be able to keep up with updating every model to the latest android and touchwiz versions.
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Well the 3000mAh was a bit of a stretch even for samsung, but that doesn't mean the Note 5 is going to be anything but a large S6. My issue though with samsung has nothing to do with the hardware, but with how Samsung treats their customers; I know that they don't guarantee any updates, but they should have figured out by now that people always want the latest updates along with the latest interface (that's why people keep buying iPhones). It's just a shame to see samsung making the same mistakes over and over again letting Apple walk all over them (Android as a whole suffers). Wish Samsung would seize making cheap low-end devices and just keep their previous gen models as the mid- and low-end phones, in order to be able to keep up with updating every model to the latest android and touchwiz versions.
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You see now there I full agree with you, 100%!
And from what I am seeing, they have become worse than before, we are still waiting for 5.1.1 and now there is a huge vulnerability found yet they continue to drag their feet. It is very frustrating and it has had me wondering if I could live with an iPhone 6S Plus, but I like Android and thoroughly enjoy its versatility.
Its a tough one, it makes me wonder why manufacturers can't just make their skins downloadable or separate them from the core of the OS and allow Google to issue the Android Updates to us, then they (the manufacturers) can do their skin updates at their own pace. Would make a lot more sense.
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You see now there I full agree with you, 100%!
And from what I am seeing, they have become worse than before, we are still waiting for 5.1.1 and now there is a huge vulnerability found yet they continue to drag their feet. It is very frustrating and it has had me wondering if I could live with an iPhone 6S Plus, but I like Android and thoroughly enjoy its versatility.
Its a tough one, it makes me wonder why manufacturers can't just make their skins downloadable or separate them from the core of the OS and allow Google to issue the Android Updates to us, then they (the manufacturers) can do their skin updates at their own pace. Would make a lot more sense.
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I'm not desperate enough to consider an apple device, especially now that Samsung has committed themselves to frequent security-updates. Would like to see every Samsung phone updated simultaneously, but as there are 1000000 different models that's just not possible.
Google handling the updates would indeed be ideal, but touchwiz uses it's own framework so it's more than just a custom skin.
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I'm not desperate enough to consider an apple device, especially now that Samsung has committed themselves to frequent security-updates. Would like to see every Samsung phone updated simultaneously, but as there are 1000000 different models that's just not possible.
Google handling the updates would indeed be ideal, but touchwiz uses it's own framework so it's more than just a custom skin.
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Can't have it all I guess.
I am a fan of TouchWiz (one of very few it seems), all I would like is faster and more consistent updates.
Their commitment to monthly security updates will be interesting to see.
http://www.androidauthority.com/galaxy-note-5-fully-exposed-632450/
Even if the phone does pack a punch, the lack of note key features means it doesn't offer anything to make me spend oodles on a note 5.
Samsungs path is to follow what apple are doing rather than be innovative and provide somethings its customers want. Note customers are more picky than s6 users (we also spend a darn sight more on it), which is why the note 5 (a fat s6 with a pen) will fail to increase samsungs profits - I defy anyone to argue against this.
There are so many good phones in the near pipeline - if you don't need the pen (which although is nice to have its not imperative for me), there is the hugely competitively priced Moto x, the upcoming Nexus 7, the top spec (rumoured) LG G4 Pro, to name just a few.
In Samsungs plight be like apple, they've forgotten the key thing - what its customers want. Here is a lesson in ensuring you do market research!
Yes inbuilt memory is fine if you have a truly reliable high speed data connection everywhere, and the ability to charge the thing in every coffee shop, but for those of us who don't live next to a 4g mast/wifi hotspot and want to drag around a power pack, the lack of these 2 features alone make the note 5 an impossible buy - at least for the price Samsung will want to charge.
....and that's before we even talk about the speed to deploy critical updates!
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Even if the phone does pack a punch, the lack of note key features means it doesn't offer anything to make me spend oodles on a note 5.
Samsungs path is to follow what apple are doing rather than be innovative and provide somethings its customers want. Note customers are more picky than s6 users (we also spend a darn sight more on it), which is why the note 5 (a fat s6 with a pen) will fail to increase samsungs profits - I defy anyone to argue against this.
There are so many good phones in the near pipeline - if you don't need the pen (which although is nice to have its not imperative for me), there is the hugely competitively priced Moto x, the upcoming Nexus 7, the top spec (rumoured) LG G4 Pro, to name just a few.
In Samsungs plight be like apple, they've forgotten the key thing - what its customers want. Here is a lesson in ensuring you do market research!
Yes inbuilt memory is fine if you have a truly reliable high speed data connection everywhere, and the ability to charge the thing in every coffee shop, but for those of us who don't live next to a 4g mast/wifi hotspot and want to drag around a power pack, the lack of these 2 features alone make the note 5 an impossible buy - at least for the price Samsung will want to charge.
....and that's before we even talk about the speed to deploy critical updates!
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Not one to defend Google normally, but that's the reason i went back to my nexus 6. Yes its not half as sharp, camera is a step below, but its got no issues with security and it does not get shunted aside a few months after purchase.
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Well the 3000mAh was a bit of a stretch even for samsung, but that doesn't mean the Note 5 is going to be anything but a large S6. My issue though with samsung has nothing to do with the hardware, but with how Samsung treats their customers; I know that they don't guarantee any updates, but they should have figured out by now that people always want the latest updates along with the latest interface (that's why people keep buying iPhones). It's just a shame to see samsung making the same mistakes over and over again letting Apple walk all over them (Android as a whole suffers). Wish Samsung would seize making cheap low-end devices and just keep their previous gen models as the mid- and low-end phones, in order to be able to keep up with updating every model to the latest android and touchwiz versions.
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All the Note series have been larger versions of their S series siblings. So it's no surprise that the Note 5 will be a large S6.
I do agree though that Samsung have an appalling customer service and public relations reputation and it pains me to say they could learn a thing or two from Apple sadly.
They came up with the S6 as a ground-zero project to satisfy the critics ... read that as journalists. Tech journalists have always favoured Apple products with a few Android blogger exceptions. So we end up with the S6 looking like an iPhone clone. The "oohs and ahhs" of those journalists was great for Samsung but they were short lived as soon as another new phone showed up. What Samsung should be doing is surveying current Samsung customers and asking them what they really want from a phone. Doing proper market research and lining that up with what they can technically, financially and feasibly manufacture without it costing the consumer stupid money, will be a winner for them.
I agree that we should not completely judge the Note 5 before it's officially launched but I think we have a good enough idea to form a relatively good opinion of it. I owned every Note since its birth and I have to say this is the first time I have hesitated about upgrading to the next gen version. I guess we will have to wait and see.
The Brand New Galaxy NOTE 5 has just been officially announced by Samsung. Its pretty obvious that a lot of Galaxy Note 4 users were excited about the New device till they got the knowledge of what was under the hood. What was really making the New device tick. This instead brought up some mixed feelings (and made some of us curious and some even mad).
So judging from the information we already have about the Galaxy Note 5 (if not, try here) the obvious and most important question is: Is it a worthy Upgrade from what you already own? and another question is: WILL YOU UPGRADE?
Lets vote, vote, vote and try predicting the fate of the New NOTE.
Samsung decided for me, they won't even let me buy it.
No. I won't, and I always do. I change phones 3 times a year. I'm an addict. I had GS6 and switched to G4 which I like better. I was 100% sure I'd buy the Note 5, but when they decided to just take the S6 and make it bigger, and add the S pen I decided against it. Note has always been a premium device, not a bigger gs6. This reeks of Samsung choking the profit out of its loyal following like Apple with there S upgrade.
What will happen? It will sell. The Sammy Sheep will follow their Shepard. I also believe there are more consumers who have NO IDEA about the SOC and tech info who will just buy the big phone.
I'm going to look at the Moto Pure, and even though it has the 808, I don't feel like Moto is trying to stick it to me like Samsung.
Man LG has a golden opportunity. Let's hope they know it and act on it. If they'd put out a 5.7 " screen with a bigger removable battery, SD card, stylus, and the 820 they'd kill it
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Definitely not. As dicemaster said, it wont be available in my country. Furthermore, not worthy enough tot replace my 910c.
lol is that even a question? yet still better joke then samsung made.
LOL. I think it's clear from this poll that the Note 5 hasn't been well received by the kind of people who post here, generally hardcore users. No doubt Samsung hopes that casual users will make up for that but I doubt that will happen. Hopefully they will learn from their mistakes and release a better Note 6. Till then I am happy to continue with the Note 4 which is still great and probably the best smartphone available.
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using Glass was such a stupid idea
The fact that my line's still on contract until December 2016 aside (yes, Sprint still does contract pricing on our grandfathered plan), why would I downgrade to a Note 5 when I have a Note 4 that does more (removable battery, microSD, IR blaster) and is already quite fast and responsive on 5.1.1 OG5?
The only good thing I have to say about the Note 5 right now is that it just makes the existing Note 4 that much more valuable, possibly the last great Samsung phone if they don't get their act together for the Note 6.
No way. Looks like it's all downhill from here on in for Sammy.
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To me the Note 5 presentation was an EPIC FAIL.
Far to many praising words "awesome, great, design, best, word's first, etc..." and very little content.
They could make the whole presentation in a few seconds, "The S6 edge plus, the larger S6 edge. The Note 5 the larger s6 with a pen."
I saw people clapping for no reason, even for the 90s style cheap looking plastic keyboard/cover which was in fact the only thing new they could show us.
WOW... Samsung you made history!
i dont spent my money in this trash.my note 4 is better then 5.for some extras of note 5 i wait the devs...
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Samsung Galaxy Note 5 versus Note 4: What's the difference?
http://www.androidcentral.com/samsung-galaxy-note-5-versus-note-4-whats-difference
I beg to differ. I think the Note 5 offers a whole different design to the Note series. Yes it's like S6 blown up, but the core functionality of Note is still there. Note 5 is like an improvement over Note 4, albeit without a SD card and removable battery. I await to see battery scores before I make the switch. If you've handled (and love) the S6/S6 Edge, I'm pretty certain you'll love the Note 5.
I'll just counter no SD card with this:
http://www.sandisk.sg/products/mobile-flash-drives/dualdrive/
Also, since the S$1188 64GB Note 5 is available in Singapore from Saturday 15 August onwards (not a typo!) with preorder goodies like Fast Wireless Charging Pad amongst others, I might just switch!! Awaiting the hands-on tomorrow.
Plus side
Wireless charging
Keyboard cover.Extra for some
Speakers?! Not sure there
Samsung pay
Octa core and less battery drain
4gb ram and a faster type
Better camera in low light both back and front
Faster flash drive
Bad
Dont come 2 europé
No exchangable battery. Honestly dont use it much, but its good 2 have
And no SD
For me its sadly no buy even IF it it did come to Sweden. ?
Edit: no Ir and no usb C
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3kgt said:
Plus side
Wireless charging
Keyboard cover
Speakers?! Not sure there
Samsung pay
Octa core and less battery drain
4gb ram
Better camera
Bad
Dont come 2 europé
No exchangable battery. Honestly dont use it much, but its good 2 have
And no SD
For me its sadly no buy even IF it it did come to Sweden.
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None of the plus sides you list compensates for micro sd slot.
Wireless charging is always sluggish and useless to me, 4gb ram is only noticed in heavy multitasking and found in 1/3rd of the price Asus Zenfone 2, Keyboard cover is ugly, pointless and useless, speakers are not a pro (not front facing stereo speakers), Samsung pay will only work when Note 6 or 7 is launched, cpu performance of the note 4 was never an issue, camera is practically the same.
Looking at Note 4 firmware track records, you can assume that the Note 5 will be forgotten by Samsung after one year.
no removable battery+no sd card.......well i came from lg and since lg will lauche the g4 pro with 5.8 inchs+above 20 pixel camera....and not to mention the next g flex 3...probably going back to lg!!!
personally it dont worth the upgrade....
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LOL. I think it's clear from this poll that the Note 5 hasn't been well received by the kind of people who post here, generally hardcore users. No doubt Samsung hopes that casual users will make up for that but I doubt that will happen. Hopefully they will learn from their mistakes and release a better Note 6. Till then I am happy to continue with the Note 4 which is still great and probably the best smartphone available.
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BOOM!! +1000!!
You hit the nail on the head, exactly my thoughts.
The Note 5 just made my Note 4 more precious, I am going to stick with it, get a 128GB MicroSDXC for it and a new case as it will have to serve me another year now, no thanks to Samsung!
Samsung has disappointed the most loyal of users, the 'Power Users', they actually do not realise how influential we can be, especially thanks to popular tech sites, blogs and YouTube reviewers. They are going to pay hard for this mess!
I changed my batteri like to times today because I was a busy and used it all day it save me a lot of work and was online the hole day without any plugging until now of course, and it seems I can't do that with the note 5 so no not at all I will keep note 4 until they come with a better one next year with an exchangeable battery this is seriously the only reason I picked the note 4 , thy've should keept the note series far away from the S series they so dumb if next year the same design I'm going to LG that for sure
Can't believe Sammy would throw away all the things that made the note stand out. Am definitely not getting a note 5.
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Plus side
Wireless charging
Keyboard cover
Speakers?! Not sure there
Samsung pay
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Better camera
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Wireless Chargin: Already have the cover...
Keyboard cover: wtf?
speakers?: not a plus if it isn't known or confirmed.
Samsung pay: (isn't this just beepngo tech? doesn't the note4 have this?)
octacore and less drain: This is probably true, but it will only offset for the smaller battery most likely.
4gb ram: this is definitely a plus, but only if their software isn't a memory hog.
better camera: I believe it is the exact same camera.
This poll is actually insane! I haven't seen a new launch device have the community so polarized against purchasing it ... 92% not liking it... that isn't good for business samsung.
I personally could have gotten on board with a non-replaceable battery, but to kill the sd card too... not good. They should have just given it a little tray. Isn't samsung the biggest retailer of sdxc cards anyways? what the heck.. don't they want to sell sdxc cards to everyone?
Now that specs are confirmed, is anyone actually interested in the note 5? I have a note 4 and am so dissapointed in where they took the note line.
They started off the keynote saying "after listening to customers/fans of the phone we came up with....." Yea what note fan said I dont want an SD card slot and I want a smaller/non replaceable battery. Or I am willing to give up all this to save .0001mm in thickness.
I heard LG is making a note, can anyone confirm?
This phrase with "... listening to the customers ..." keeps ringing in my head. I have a SG Note Edge and I will never trade my Edge for a Note 5. Except the new design, the N5 is far below my Edge. I think that they made a big mistake releasing the Note Edge before the N5. But is too late to fix that now.
I wouldn't buy the Galaxy Note 5 since I can get the similar specs (S6) for cheaper. I barely use the S Pen anyways.
I think for note 4 users like myself see it as the same screen probably same camera with new software . Smaller battery ,no ir blaster,no sd card you know its bad when they remove the note 4 from carrier websites. Sprint don't even have it there. What person would buy the note 5 over the note 4. Note series was always about being a game changer and bring something new to the table. All they did was copy apple design bad move i pray it flop so they release the version we all want.
Rocking a Note 4 currently. The more powerful CPU/GPU, RAM etc would be nice. Seeing my Note 4 stutter with certain graphically rich apps (mainly high end games) is something I hate seeing. I know better optimization by dev would help but with Android having hundreds of devices I'm not going to hold my breath on that. Even with the Note series being a popular device. Pushing a 2K display I want the most powerful GPU I can get.
The tradeoffs for me is the smaller non removable battery. The convenience the IR blaster offers will be missed but it's not a deal breaker. Same with the SD card.
Buying a Note every year looks to be ending for me though. I will miss the best multitasking the Note series offers but unless Sammy drops the price a whole lot I'm not getting one. Too many cons. Seems Sammy wanted to go after all the people who wasn't buying one and TOOK FOR GRANTED the people who did purchase it. The people who made it the success it was.
I could be wrong, but I believe this device is not going to sell well. The lackluster sales of the GS6 will be followed by lackluster sales of the Note series.
I agree about the sales comment. I have never read so many negative reviews / seen so many disappointed Comments on a device. I think that if this was priced at $450 we would all be going crazy for it. But at $900 when you can get the g4 for $450... it's out of alignment.
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Love both Edge 6 & Note 5.
Vote for Note 5
1. 2.
I'm coming from a Nexus 4, so this Note will be a huge upgrade for me.
Since I'm coming from a phone with no external memory card slot and a non replaceable battery I won't miss either
I really wanted the new Moto X but since it doesn't support T-Mobile wifi calling I'll be going with the Note 5 when it's released. I did think about getting the Note 4, but with the free year subscription to Netflix on T-Mobile It's only an extra 50 dollars then the Note 4, so I figured why bother getting a year old phone?
I have realized that i can perfectly ditch the note functionality.
i barely use the stylus.
so this galaxy note 5 flop is easier to survive than it seems...
and the new phone will be less heavy.
anyway, starting from now on i stop recommending samsung products to others.
I understand many people do not care Samsung Devices are loaded with bloatware, but the price !!!!
I can not justify spending $1000 plus for a phone, especially when you can buy devices with relatively clean Android, hardware as good and in some cases better for $100s of dollars less.
How does somebody buy a Samsung device for say $1100.00 when the can but a OnePlus for $600.... ?
For me, the most important factor is the screen. Samsung is the only manufactorer I know that has the best screen, great hardware, and decent software. The bloatware could possibly be removed and I wish it could be cheaper.
I am actually using a Pixel 3 XL now. The software is clean but boring. I am mostly disappointed with the hardware. That I why I am waiting for the GS10.
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For me, the most important factor is the screen. Samsung is the only manufactorer I know that has the best screen, great hardware, and decent software. The bloatware could possibly be removed and I wish it could be cheaper.
I am actually using a Pixel 3 XL now. The software is clean but boring. I am mostly disappointed with the hardware. That I why I am waiting for the GS10.
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Same here lol
Btw, you should try this company, they are offering free cases for s10
https://armadillotek.com/
garyHal said:
For me, the most important factor is the screen. Samsung is the only manufactorer I know that has the best screen, great hardware, and decent software. The bloatware could possibly be removed and I wish it could be cheaper.
I am actually using a Pixel 3 XL now. The software is clean but boring. I am mostly disappointed with the hardware. That I why I am waiting for the GS10.
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I actually love my Pixel 3Xl and got tired of Samsung taking 6 + months to update the phones to new OS. After owning every generation of Note, I got tired of no root and locked down bootloaders. Despite the great screens, I'm staying on the pixel side.
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First thing is that I love the Galaxy series.
Why Samsung??
All I am gonna do is just browse through Internet,social media, capture some decent looking pictures and I need phone with a display which is best in industry and has a great design and build quality.
When I think of all these the only thing that comes to my mind is the Galaxy series. I agree that OP phones are faster than the galaxy series but when it comes design and build samsung is well better.
Best quality display is keeping the samsung unique in the market. Viewing angles is great in samsung displays. Especially in camera it has variable aperture and a super slow motion. And still it has a headphone jack and micro SD slot.
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I understand many people do not care Samsung Devices are loaded with bloatware, but the price !!!!
I can not justify spending $1000 plus for a phone, especially when you can buy devices with relatively clean Android, hardware as good and in some cases better for $100s of dollars less.
How does somebody buy a Samsung device for say $1100.00 when the can but a OnePlus for $600.... ?
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Samsung devices are not, the provider branded versions are, but that is equally true of all branded devices.
The Samsung Device that would be in the $1100 price range is going to be light years more advanced in power, storage, and just tech in general than the $600 one from OnePlus. Now if you Compare the $600 Samsung device to the $600 OnePlus device then you getting closer, but the Samsung device is still going to be more advanced, the gap just will not be nearly as big.
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I actually love my Pixel 3Xl and got tired of Samsung taking 6 + months to update the phones to new OS. After owning every generation of Note, I got tired of no root and locked down bootloaders. Despite the great screens, I'm staying on the pixel side.
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Samsung doesn't take that long, unless it is a rather old phone. The people taking that long are the Wireless providers who take their sweet time removing all the good stuff and adding different bloatware.
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I really wish that Samsung would just start getting some of their CDMA radios from Intel, that way we could get an Exynos chipset with an unlockable bootloader that is easily useable on Verizon and Sprint.
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Samsung devices are not, the provider branded versions are, but that is equally true of all branded devices.
The Samsung Device that would be in the $1100 price range is going to be light years more advanced in power, storage, and just tech in general than the $600 one from OnePlus. Now if you Compare the $600 Samsung device to the $600 OnePlus device then you getting closer, but the Samsung device is still going to be more advanced, the gap just will not be nearly as big.
Samsung doesn't take that long, unless it is a rather old phone. The people taking that long are the Wireless providers who take their sweet time removing all the good stuff and adding different bloatware.
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I really wish that Samsung would just start getting some of their CDMA radios from Intel, that way we could get an Exynos chipset with an unlockable bootloader that is easily useable on Verizon and Sprint.
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I beg to differ from you. While preliminary versions of Android Q are already being worked on and tested in the wild, my Note 8 still sits on Oreo. I know there is an unofficial version of Pie for it, but not the official version yet . This is over 7 months after Pie was released. I've had every note that came out except the original. I bought my Note 8 on day 1 when it came out and paid about $950 after taxes. It was by no means a cheap device at the time. At the time, people who had unlocked exynox versions were upset because their updates which were supposed to come directly from Samsung were taking even longer than the carrier ones. Read up on it. Samsung + carrier delays are horrendous. IMO, It's embarrassing that what was once considered their top device would take 7+ months to receive an official software update.
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I beg to differ from you. While preliminary versions of Android Q are already being worked on and tested in the wild, my Note 8 still sits on Oreo. I know there is an unofficial version of Pie for it, but not the official version yet . This is over 7 months after Pie was released. I've had every note that came out except the original. I bought my Note 8 on day 1 when it came out and paid about $950 after taxes. It was by no means a cheap device at the time. At the time, people who had unlocked exynox versions were upset because their updates which were supposed to come directly from Samsung were taking even longer than the carrier ones. Read up on it. Samsung + carrier delays are horrendous. IMO, It's embarrassing that what was once considered their top device would take 7+ months to receive an official software update.
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The Note 9 came out with Oreo as well as pretty much all the other myriad Samsung phones in that same release year. The Note 8 getting Pie only 6 months (the global Samsung release is this month) after Pie is officially released is impressive given the number of phones ahead of it. If your phone is not getting it this month it is due to the branding of your phone and that wireless provider holding it up.
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Global release means nothing if only a few people get it or only a few versions of the phone get it at that time. The point I'm making is that IMO it's pathetic Samsung takes even 6 months to update the OS on a phone that was a flagship when it came out a bit over a year ago. The Note 9 is all they care about right now since it's the latest one out but soon enough once they have your money, they'll care only about the S10. IMO, Samsung has an obligation to upgrade phones quickly and timely, specially on devices they charged nearly 1k and were/had flagship status when released. Meanwhile, phones like the Essential (practically unknown and on sale for $239 on Amazon get it on the day is released by Google). I clearly get the concept of skins added on to the OS to provide extra features which adds to testing time etc... but IMO 6 month + is a pathetic timeline for a flagship phone. As per your thinking, I suggest Samsung adds a disclaimer to the box of a new phone which states "Due to the impressive number of phones made ahead of yours, updates will come on this flagship 6+ months after the official release date". I wonder how many people would buy it if they came clear and admitted it? As much as I love Samsung (proof is that I've owned almost every note), I do not excuse their shortcomings when it comes to OS updates.
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Samsung offer a lot more hardware than a OnePlus. Waterproofing, headphone jack, heart rate scanner, better cooling/heatsink. Also wireless charging, MST payment (very useful in Asian countries where NFC payments are non existent), better screen, better camera.
I have owned both OnePlus(3) and Samsung (Note 8) devices. In general, I have observed that the Note 8 receives monthly updates which are extremely stable. Whereas OnePlus has released half baked updates (like 7.0 for OP3) followed by hotfixes.
Honestly, if OnePlus for still around the 450$ price, it would be unbeatable.
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Apple updates its iOS software incrementally over the year until a revamp of the operating system is released before new iPhones come out in September. The same can also be said of Android where the operating system gets a new refresh once a year. Two different O/S ecosystems, two different O/S update systems. You can't make everyone happy.
LOS support "forever".
slipstreamer88 said:
Edit: Forgot pressure sensitive home button.
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Well no more with s10...
The galaxy S10 is actually cheaper than the 2017's iPhone X in my country :/
We can pre order it for 929$ with a free galaxy watch and a free wireless charger, while the iPhone X is for 950$+
Also the apple "lower end" iPhone XR is more expensive than the S10...
I am talking about the regular S10, not the S10 plus or the S10e.
Samsung offers more than apple and is still cheaper, it offers more than any android phone also. They have everything you can ask for in a smartphone.
garyHal said:
For me, the most important factor is the screen. Samsung is the only manufactorer I know that has the best screen, great hardware, and decent software. The bloatware could possibly be removed and I wish it could be cheaper.
I am actually using a Pixel 3 XL now. The software is clean but boring. I am mostly disappointed with the hardware. That I why I am waiting for the GS10.
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New iphones and ipad screens are pretty dang amazing. I didnt think so till my wife won the latest gen ipad pro at work in a contest. The screen is by far superior to any samsung tablet or phone I have seen.
To me there is no other brand other than Samsung - 0 competition. Sammy has everything in one device and that's why I love them. You don't need to have the latest Android update right away as many features are already existent in the device even if it's on an older software version. Best screen, best camera, has headphone jack, ultrasonic fp scanner, super premium build, amazing hardware. List goes on, I'm just waiting for them to get rid of the hole(s) and will get that Note (10 or 11 hopefully).
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To me there is no other brand other than Samsung - 0 competition. Sammy has everything in one device and that's why I love them. You don't need to have the latest Android update right away as many features are already existent in the device even if it's on an older software version. Best screen, best camera, has headphone jack, ultrasonic fp scanner, super premium build, amazing hardware. List goes on, I'm just waiting for them to get rid of the hole(s) and will get that Note (10 or 11 hopefully).
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Note 10 is a definite no. The Note 10 will be pretty much the S10 with a slightly larger screen and S-Pen goodies. They've never strayed too far from the S line when it comes to the Note. It's bigger, more powerful, etc. but it usually doesn't stray far from the S version of its year.
AstroDigital said:
I understand many people do not care Samsung Devices are loaded with bloatware, but the price !!!!
I can not justify spending $1000 plus for a phone, especially when you can buy devices with relatively clean Android, hardware as good and in some cases better for $100s of dollars less.
How does somebody buy a Samsung device for say $1100.00 when the can but a OnePlus for $600.... ?
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1st off I always buy the unlocked version of the latest Galaxy S phone so I do not have all the nasty bloatware which comes from the carriers. The unlocked versions are very clean.
Regarding price, I'm looking at pre-ordering the S10+ for $999 (It will end up costing me $599 after trading in my old phone + using a gift card from xmas) Yes it will be the most I've ever paid for a new phone, but Samsung screens cannot be beat. I love the triple camera (which just received the highest camera rating of any cell phone from DXO - tied with Huawei Mate 20), ultrasonic FP reader, headphone jack, SD card slot, waterproofing, wireless charging, and pre-orders are coming with free Samsung AirPods. I also really like the automatic 42% blue light reduction. That should help alleviate some eye strain. I like that the Sammy AirPods can charge wirelessly by simply setting the case on the back of the phone.
Having said all that, I am disappointed the S10 has only increased the charge rate by 29%. I was hoping for something closer to 100%. That is one area where I feel other phones like OnePlus and Huawei have an advantage in charging speed.
In any case, I will pre-order the S10+, but in the future I will certainly be watching carefully the OnePlus 7, MI 9, and other high end but less expensive phones.
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New iphones and ipad screens are pretty dang amazing. I didnt think so till my wife won the latest gen ipad pro at work in a contest. The screen is by far superior to any samsung tablet or phone I have seen.
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???... I hope u know that those screens are from Samsung... but nice try