Here is a link for a test on bandwidth and RF differences with Mophie battery case for the G4 as compared to no case and a clear lion case:
http://s4gru.com/index.php?/topic/6832-lg-g4-user-thread-was-rumor-thread/page-16
(would have reported it here but was having difficulty getting the charts to display in reasonable form.)
dyeager said:
Here is a link for a test on bandwidth and RF differences with Mophie battery case for the G4 as compared to no case and a clear lion case:
http://s4gru.com/index.php?/topic/6832-lg-g4-user-thread-was-rumor-thread/page-16
(would have reported it here but was having difficulty getting the charts to display in reasonable form.)
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The case battery is horrible. No way this gives 80% more and it heats the phone up a lot. was told by mophie that I should use case when phone is not in use. I dislike the fact that it is slippery. they need to step up the game.
BAD ASS NOTE 4 & LG G4
Only 450 mAh more than stock? Why would I want a bulkier phone for that?
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Only 450 mAh more than stock? Why would I want a bulkier phone for that?
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I'm not sure about your math. The mophie has a 3450 mAh battery, so that would be a full 3450 MORE than the internal battery. Since it is an external battery and all.
Also, I have had zero issues with my Mophie. No heating issues or signal issues. FWIW.
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I'm not sure about your math. The mophie has a 3450 mAh battery, so that would be a full 3450 MORE than the internal battery. Since it is an external battery and all.
Also, I have had zero issues with my Mophie. No heating issues or signal issues. FWIW.
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D'oh, I was thinking it replaced the stock battery. That makes a lot more sense now.
Why would you waste your money on this piece of crap? Maybe for the s6 or iPhone. But we have removeable batteries that's the whole point. You could've easily got 2 maybe even 3 batteries for the price of that case.
1. Not wait for a charge
2. Not causing additional heat
3. Keep it slim.
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Why would you waste your money on this piece of crap? Maybe for the s6 or iPhone. But we have removeable batteries that's the whole point. You could've easily got 2 maybe even 3 batteries for the price of that case.
1. Not wait for a charge
2. Not causing additional heat
3. Keep it slim.
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Why would you post such a crappy post without actually trying the product? First off, extra batteries are nice and all but you actually have to turn the phone off to replace the battery, that's a waste of time. Secondly, how would you know it causes additional heat? Mine doesn't and I use it everyday. And guess what? I can charge the phone and the battery pack with one cable, all at the same time.
To each his own, so maybe you should bite your tounge and not post such blatantly blasphemous posts and let others form their own opinions.
My second case going back for a refund. rather have a good quality case and battery in pocket then a slippery phone that one day would end up breaking.
BAD ASS NOTE 4 & LG G4
To my surprise, I have not had heat issues with the g4 with or without the Mophie case, even when doing more than on my G2, which did have overheating issues. I agree that the Mophie should have more texture for a better grip on this case.
Proper comparison cost wise is an extra battery and a case since Mophie supplies both. I did find the case very easy to remove, although I would always keep it on. I do like the sound being redirected to the front.
I measured signal because many wireless charger backs have been shown to dramatically affect performance. In the FCC documents, most manufacturers are no longer releasing their antenna diagrams. If you have signal issues with the Mophie juice pack case, hold it vertical.
I have found that a 2.4 car charger is not enough for the LG G4 (I swapped charges and USB cable as well), nor can the Mophie case make up that power difference. However this excessive power situation was resolved by reducing the number of active apps by one and rebooting to kill a runaway Google service.
I did consider extended batteries, but then you must go caseless to the best of my knowledge.
With the replacement batteries you must also remember to carry them and you risk breaking the back cover with repeated use.
It really depends on how often you need extra battery power as to whether the Mophie case is worth it, plus the caveats and benefits listed above by all.
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Why would you post such a crappy post without actually trying the product? First off, extra batteries are nice and all but you actually have to turn the phone off to replace the battery, that's a waste of time. Secondly, how would you know it causes additional heat? Mine doesn't and I use it everyday. And guess what? I can charge the phone and the battery pack with one cable, all at the same time.
To each his own, so maybe you should bite your tounge and not post such blatantly blasphemous posts and let others form their own opinions.
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Agreed with other guy.
Battery case is not optimal. Basically this battery is charging the OEM internal battery.... constantly.... which will end up killing your OEM battery.
The best solution would be to remove the OEM battery and replace it with a 6000mAh battery/custom backplate that snaps on.
Hence why these are causing the phones to heat up.
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Agreed with other guy.
Battery case is not optimal. Basically this battery is charging the OEM internal battery.... constantly.... which will end up killing your OEM battery.
The best solution would be to remove the OEM battery and replace it with a 6000mAh battery/custom backplate that snaps on.
Hence why these are causing the phones to heat up.
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Except you're wrong. This case has a switch which the user controls. The switch dictates whether the case is charging the phone or not. So when you don't need it, its not charging, and thus not heating up the phone.
Again, if you actually have used the case before you would know this.
I just picked up this case yesterday and I really like it. Although the material is a tad slippery, the finish is a bit softer than normal plastic covers so it does feel pretty nice in my hand. Super bulky but I did come from a Nexus 6 so I don't mind and the reroute on the speakers to the front is pretty cool too as that was something I missed from my Nexus.
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Battery case is not optimal. Basically this battery is charging the OEM internal battery.... constantly.... which will end up killing your OEM battery.
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Right, this is what typically kills laptop batteries much before their time. That constant charging.
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The best solution would be to remove the OEM battery and replace it with a 6000mAh battery/custom backplate that snaps on.
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That is what i thought was going on. replace the original with an extended. Nope.
Instead they are treating this thing as if it has a non-removable battery. Bad design.
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Except you're wrong. This case has a switch which the user controls. The switch dictates whether the case is charging the phone or not. So when you don't need it, its not charging, and thus not heating up the phone.
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How often you do that per day ?
this is more of a hassle than replacing the battery.
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Right, this is what typically kills laptop batteries much before their time. That constant charging.
That is what i thought was going on. replace the original with an extended. Nope.
Instead they are treating this thing as if it has a non-removable battery. Bad design.
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How often you do that per day ?
this is more of a hassle than replacing the battery.
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Really? Sliding a switch is more of a hassle than powering off your phone, replacing the battery and waiting for it to boot back up? Your definition of hassle is WAY different than mine.
I only have to do this once a day, when my battery gets down to around 30%, and it charges it up all the way and has about 40% left on the external battery itself.
Again I say, how do you know it is a hassle if you haven't actually tried it?
This juice pack case is for travel use mostly. Hiking or cruising low signal is the one that drain the battery the most.
People who complain this is an impractical item without owning don't really understand who needs it. Sure you can swap batteries since this device has removable back to replace batteries. But what if you are on important phone call? Or got lost somewhere where you can't really stop the vehicle but battery is going low and don't have the time to stop/shutdown/replace battery/ turn on/ open apps? What if you are in time constrain situation (emergencies) that you must keep your phone alive? This juice pack can offer that quick and simple just by switching on.
Sure external battery does it exactly the same with far less price, but the convenience make up for the price. I cant really justify with the $99 but a case that with built in battery? Some might think it's a good price.
Sorry for the long post.
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Really? Sliding a switch is more of a hassle than powering off your phone, replacing the battery and waiting for it to boot back up? Your definition of hassle is WAY different than mine.
I only have to do this once a day, when my battery gets down to around 30%, and it charges it up all the way and has about 40% left on the external battery itself.
Again I say, how do you know it is a hassle if you haven't actually tried it?
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How do you know a broken leg gives you a hard time walking, if you never had it broken? The answer - common sense. In other words, your arguments aren't really that.
This case is useless for everyday use, compared to an extra battery. Instead of using a slick phone with a nice size/screen size ratio, it turns it into an awkward brick. Ok I understand using it occasionally while traveling, like an external battery if you don't wanna take your back off...
Still don't get it though why they make these for phones with removable batteries..
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How do you know a broken leg gives you a hard time walking, if you never had it broken? The answer - common sense. In other words, your arguments aren't really that.
This case is useless for everyday use, compared to an extra battery. Instead of using a slick phone with a nice size/screen size ratio, it turns it into an awkward brick. Ok I understand using it occasionally while traveling, like an external battery if you don't wanna take your back off...
Still don't get it though why they make these for phones with removable batteries..
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Your logic is absolutely baffling to me. But whatever, to each is own. All I am saying is don't bash something you haven't tried. You have no clue what you are talking about, and it makes you look unintelligent.
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This juice pack case is for travel use mostly. Hiking or cruising low signal is the one that drain the battery the most.
People who complain this is an impractical item without owning don't really understand who needs it. Sure you can swap batteries since this device has removable back to replace batteries. But what if you are on important phone call? Or got lost somewhere where you can't really stop the vehicle but battery is going low and don't have the time to stop/shutdown/replace battery/ turn on/ open apps? What if you are in time constrain situation (emergencies) that you must keep your phone alive? This juice pack can offer that quick and simple just by switching on.
Sure external battery does it exactly the same with far less price, but the convenience make up for the price. I cant really justify with the $99 but a case that with built in battery? Some might think it's a good price.
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ok so that is the use case this is specfically designed for.
Sorry for the long post.
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Never apologise for that
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This case is useless for everyday use, compared to an extra battery. Instead of using a slick phone with a nice size/screen size ratio, it turns it into an awkward brick. Ok I understand using it occasionally while traveling, like an external battery if you don't wanna take your back off...
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And that is the use case i amongst others are looking at it from.
Still don't get it though why they make these for phones with removable batteries..
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always on. if you don't need that then this isn't the right product.
Just picked up one of these from the AT&T store because they had cleared them out for $10.
Anyway, it seems good so far, and the textured rubber/plastic material seems like a good grip.
Also this battery pack is great for me, because I play this game called Ingress and when you are with groups you quickly walk from one GPS location to the next, and you are constantly needing to take actions on the phone, so you don't have any opportunity to actually shut down your phone for a battery swap. I think external battery augmentation, like this mophie provides, is perfect for playing Ingress on walk-about missions with groups.
And as Spongers so valiantly tried to point out above, yes there is a nice easy to use switch that lets you keep the battery pack off while you use the phone's internal battery, and then easily just flick the switch to turn on the mophie to recharge your phone. Mophie even helpfully points out in the instructions that this technique optimizes overall battery life between the mophie and the phone, because you spend only half the time recharging (total time split between draining only the phone's battery with mophie off, then draining the mophie after turning it on after phone's battery is low), instead of the entire time (where you would keep the mophie turned on all the time, generate more recharging phone heat/waste during the entire drains of both batteries).
Anyway, yeah I like it. Check if your local AT&T stores have any in stock, because it's a steal at $10. My store only had one left, or I would have bought all of them.
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I've been looking at the xv6800 extended battery options. Since I came from an 6700 with the monster extended battery, I'm kind of leaning towards one that is somewhere in the middle. The monster 3200 (or 33, 34... don't remember) was awesome, I don't think I need that much day to day.
I don't think the 1800 is an option, so I guess I have to choose from the ones that require a different battery door. I'm looking for the minimum increase to phone thickness.
Option 1: I can't find measurements, but this looks like the least additional thickness. 2400 Mah. I can't get a good indication on the thickness it adds.
Option 2: This is interesting due to the way it is designed, it looks like it might feel comfy in the hand... 2200 Mah
Option 3: This is pretty much the same, but squares off the back so it might lay on the desk, counter, dashboard, etc more evenly... Another 2400 mah. At that point, I might as well get the monster 3200 Mah
I'm leaning towards option 1 since it is close to double the capacity, but it looks realitively thin.
Thoughts? Opinions?
seidio makes the 3200 one but no case for it.
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seidio makes the 3200 one but no case for it.
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Yes, I was aware of that, thanks. I'm just wondering if anyone has opinions or reviews of Option 1?
option 1 adds about 1/4 inch
Option 1s picture could be deceiving since the picture makes it hard to tell how thick it is from the side. The monster battery is overkill for me. I would go with option 1 if it extends only half way out as much as the monster battery would. It would be nice if somehow I can get the option 1 battery with the option 2 battery cover.
Option 1 battery with option 2 cover.
I have the option 2 Battery with a slightly different cover...Sort of Slanted sides to a flat and the cover looks great...
But don't bother with 2200 or 2400...
Mine is 2200 and you really don't get a lot extra from it. Can't imagine an extra 200 is going to make a significant difference. You will wake up the next day with a usable unit but you won't make it through the day.
Go for the 3200 if you can get it.
That should let you skip a day on the charging if you have to...
It would be really nice to see these batteries + covers from many different angles. People willing to take some pictures and post them?
It's a battery and cover for a phone. I think if you're worried about "looks" rather than functionality, perhaps the priorities are a bit skewed.
Buy the biggest battery for your needs, the looks are going to be what they are regardless because the manufacturers decide what the thing looks like. If it's ugly, to you, return it.
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It's a battery and cover for a phone. I think if you're worried about "looks" rather than functionality, perhaps the priorities are a bit skewed.
Buy the biggest battery for your needs, the looks are going to be what they are regardless because the manufacturers decide what the thing looks like. If it's ugly, to you, return it.
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I don't agree with your comment completely. Yes, looks is a comparison option, and based on that alone, I wouldn't get the 3200, but I know that I will require x minimum amount of battery, so that is not the only consideration. Some of those with the slanted covers appear that they might feel more comfortable from a grip standpoint. The 3200 might be too big as it relates to holsters, pouches, etc. I am asking for opinions across the board, not just a beauty contest
Based on Asphyx reply, I might just go ahead and get a 3x00 variant... probably the prettiest one
I have the seidio battery and extended battery hard cover, it has a rubber"y" grippy feeling to it. Looks fine and all in black. My holster fits just fine.
Not sure what beauty part of a phone has to do with it, you could have a really beautiful dead phone, but well, it's just a really beautiful brick then.
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Has anyone found a charging base that works with a phone (6800) that has the extended battery installed? I don't want to unplug the battery to charge it and I'm trying to get away for the cable bit, I liked the base that the 6700 had.
I've done EXTENSIVE looking for this exact thing, and so far have had to mod 2 normal cradles so I can use them with a super extended battery.
The cradles because they had to be modded didn't have anything to support the device standing up, finally gave up and just use the cable on the desktop.
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Has anyone found a charging base that works with a phone (6800) that has the extended battery installed? I don't want to unplug the battery to charge it and I'm trying to get away for the cable bit, I liked the base that the 6700 had.
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Here are a couple of options for you.
http://www.seidioonline.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=832
http://www.seidioonline.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=833
The standard dock has a 3.5mm audio port that allows you to plug into external speakers, while the Jr. version is simple sync & charge. Both will work with extended batteries.
Thanks,
seidioseidio said:
Here are a couple of options for you.
http://www.seidioonline.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=832
http://www.seidioonline.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=833
The standard dock has a 3.5mm audio port that allows you to plug into external speakers, while the Jr. version is simple sync & charge. Both will work with extended batteries.
Thanks,
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NEITHER one of these answers the original request. The only difference between these two cradles is that one lets you keep the rubberized case on the device while charging. That is NOT the same as charging while having the extended battery IN the device using a cradle. I too would like this option. I've asked for this months ago. I have a super extended battery with a rubberized case and want a cradle that accommodates that and a spare battery to charge from the cradle as well.
To date, nothing like this exists.
The 2150mah is a wonderful wonderful battery. I am glad to own it, and for really heavy users, or those will be out and about all day, it is definitely a great investment ... so long as you are ok not having a case.
But I started to think about it and realized, having 68% left at the end of the day is wonderful, but do I *need* 68% at the end of the day just so that I can risk damage to the phone? I don't think so.
With the low-effort battery charging trick (charge with power-on, when green, select power off, and wait for green again; NO NEED TO UNPLUG), the 1750mah provides a full day of usage, but will fit in a case.
Anyway, while YMMV, I think the bragging rights on battery power do not outweigh the risks of damage.
My 2 cents.
FWIW, you could do this and still have a case protecting most of the phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=703332
yah i like extended batteries but i dont want to sacrifice the case
Welp
Well ... I did a proper charge this morning, and played with Nav, maps, a few games of freecell, emailing, 1 phone call, and am still at 74% with my 1750. I think the 1750 with proper charging is the sweet spot.
Will the Innocase fit over the phone with a 2150 if you have the battery cover off?
For what it's worth, I bought the 2150 and, following the advice I received from another xda thread, just cut the back panel out of a soft case. Though much of the new expanded battery back is exposed, the camera lense is actually much more protected than before. And, of course, the screen is now protected from dropping. As a bonus, the phone looks nicer and the obnoxious bulge is considerably less noticeable.
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For what it's worth, I bought the 2150 and, following the advice I received from another xda thread, just cut the back panel out of a soft case. Though much of the new expanded battery back is exposed, the camera lense is actually much more protected than before. And, of course, the screen is now protected from dropping. As a bonus, the phone looks nicer and the obnoxious bulge is considerably less noticeable.
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I did the exact same thing. If you take your time and pay attention to detail the end result is very nice.
I did the hard case and cut it. 17 hours of use and still has half of the charge.
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Any of u guys have pics of ur modded case? I was about to return the battery and order the 1750 but I may keep it now
jdmba said:
The 2150mah is a wonderful wonderful battery. I am glad to own it, and for really heavy users, or those will be out and about all day, it is definitely a great investment ... so long as you are ok not having a case.
But I started to think about it and realized, having 68% left at the end of the day is wonderful, but do I *need* 68% at the end of the day just so that I can risk damage to the phone? I don't think so.
With the low-effort battery charging trick (charge with power-on, when green, select power off, and wait for green again; NO NEED TO UNPLUG), the 1750mah provides a full day of usage, but will fit in a case.
Anyway, while YMMV, I think the bragging rights on battery power do not outweigh the risks of damage.
My 2 cents.
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Thank you for your 2 cents, it has earned interest.
I was considering which battery to get since the stock 1300 seems to last ALLLLLMOST the whole day for me with heavy usage and having it plugged into USB at intervals when I am at my desk. I need something to last all day or nearly so without plugging in at all. I prefer to stick with something that fits in the stock case so I'll go for the 1750.
Thanks for sharing!
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With the low-effort battery charging trick (charge with power-on, when green, select power off, and wait for green again; NO NEED TO UNPLUG), the 1750mah provides a full day of usage, but will fit in a case.
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I guess that I am a moron. I don't get what the low-effort battery charging trick does. What do you mean by no need to unplug? I understand the steps, but don't you need to unplug it when you go somewhere?
I just bought the 2150 the other day and I did everything I could think of yesterday to completely kill it. I had it off the charger all day at work (I usually keep it plugged it at work), I played slacker for about 4 hours a few of which were in my car and didnt use my car charger (I always have my phone plugged in when driving), played about an hour of "traffic jam", sent numerous texts, talked over bluetooth, had GPS on all day, and lastly used SportyPal for an hour when I put in my bike miles. After all that and 15 hours later I was finally in the yellow. With that said I do love the extra juice I get from the battery but I dont think I need it over the 1750. I am going to order the 1750 and see how that holds up. If I like it I will return my 2150.
Anybody have a good and semi cheap case idea for extended batteries? Or pouch
Well... so far I've ordered a 3500mah extended battery from Hong Kong.. but as I believe this will take rather a long time to get here... I've ordered another one from the UK as well from ECELL, which apparently has a silver extended cover.
I'm well aware that these are likely cack batteries and I have a plan for that
Basically I'm hoping that whichever one I consider to be the worst will either die on me... or I will simply end it's life prematurely. I am going to cut open the battery (Carefully!) and try to replace the cell's with two Genuine OEM 1500 mah batteries, for a true 3000mah. I bit elaborate but I think it should be possible as long as I cut in the right places.
EDIT: I found genuine LG batteries for about £8.50 each plus about £5 postage, so will order 2 batteries for around £22. They are special order though, so will take 14-28 days. (I am also getting them to confirm the capacity is defo 1500mah, as no point buying them otherwise.)
Update: Images in post #29 : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=23120430&postcount=29
Well.. I was getting a little impatient... so when I was really tired (and may just a little to drink), I ordered one from ECELL on ebay. It had a silver cover and a 3600mah battery (We all know it isn't that much), and was listed for the 2x P990. Turns up.. it's for the LG Optimus S :-( Bummer. Just trying to get a return/refund.
So... experiment is delayed somewhat.
Update: Two LG OEM batteries have been ordered ; The incorrect extended battery sent back ; Still awaiting the HK Extended battery. Bizarrely I thought I actually ordered a 2nd UK based battery.. but I was so tired I think I forgot to do it lol. Can't wait to have a play with these
Refund form ECELL given without issue Have now received the 3500mah battery, and just running that to see how thing's are with it. I am waiting on the two OEM batteries to turn up from LG before I can start modding this extended battery.
Since I also have a bigger case now, I am going to look to see if I can play around with an external antenna as well.. and maybe fit a bigger antenna inside the expanded case. With that in mind I have ordered two antenna's of different types to see which one fits (expensive.. but then at least we all know )
Sounds really interesting.. keep us updated please!
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Refund form ECELL given without issue Have now received the 3500mah battery, and just running that to see how thing's are with it. I am waiting on the two OEM batteries to turn up from LG before I can start modding this extended battery.
Since I also have a bigger case now, I am going to look to see if I can play around with an external antenna as well.. and maybe fit a bigger antenna inside the expanded case. With that in mind I have ordered two antenna's of different types to see which one fits (expensive.. but then at least we all know )
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i got the 2400Mah battery(2 days of usage) i'm looking forward for you're results
specially the modded one pictures will also be great if u can.
thanks!
Apparently the LG batteries have been dispatched now, so should get them within a few days. Only annoying thing is that even LG were unable to confirm whether these batteries I'm getting are 1500mah. I will be gutted if they are not lol.
btw.. you should see my desk at present at home. I have about 5 phones, four of them in bits awaiting tinkering, LED bike lights (all modified), circuit boards from laptops everywhere, reparing a 4x 18650 battery pack + routers etc lol. And I just realised that I actually don't know where my soldering iron is ROFL. Must dig one out.
Anyway... I'm looking forward to it and if I can get it working, I'll put up pics etc. I'm very interested in trying to get the temp sensor working (although I realise it may only work for one of the batteries.).
P.s. as for extended cases and covers I bought this w w w.ebay.co.uk/itm/Clear-Black-Trim-Rubber-Case-Cover-LCD-Film-Pro-LG-Optimus-2X-G2X-/180782656771?pt=UK_MobilePhones_MobilePhonesCasesP ouches&hash=item2a177c6d03 and then cut out the back clear part. It's not a perfect fit, but it will work for the moment (Buy at your own risk.. I actually stretched mine too much when getting the clear part out).
Genuine LG batteries have just arrived about 30 seconds ago. They are 1500mah
So with the delivery charge added in they were £11.04 each (£8.49 each without delivery charge). So if you ordered more it would be less due to the one time delivery charge of £5.10. Not bad for a 1500mah genuine battery! Batteries dated 10/09/2011.
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Genuine LG batteries have just arrived about 30 seconds ago. They are 1500mah
So with the delivery charge added in they were £11.04 each (£8.49 each without delivery charge). So if you ordered more it would be less due to the one time delivery charge of £5.10. Not bad for a 1500mah genuine battery! Batteries dated 10/09/2011.
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Sounds good so will u start Modding them now?
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Sounds good so will u start Modding them now?
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Yes. I've now ordered a second "3500" mah battery so I have a spare cover and shell in case I **** anything up. I am just trying to gauge the capacity of the 3500 battery. On my first run it lastest almost 2 days on stock rom, with a fair amount of use. I would prob say only around 2000mah at a guess though.
I'm just trying to get it to run down again for a 2nd charge now.
Once all that's done, I'll open it up and start tinkering I will have to get both the LG batteries to the same state of charge as well (same voltage level) before hooking them up.)
Bear in mind I've spent £22 on original batteries that I am about to hack open for the cells inside, so there is no going back lol. Pretty expensive mistake if I **** it up relatively speaking.
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Yes. I've now ordered a second "3500" mah battery so I have a spare cover and shell in case I **** anything up. I am just trying to gauge the capacity of the 3500 battery. On my first run it lastest almost 2 days on stock rom, with a fair amount of use. I would prob say only around 2000mah at a guess though.
I'm just trying to get it to run down again for a 2nd charge now.
Once all that's done, I'll open it up and start tinkering I will have to get both the LG batteries to the same state of charge as well (same voltage level) before hooking them up.)
Bear in mind I've spent £22 on original batteries that I am about to hack open for the cells inside, so there is no going back lol. Pretty expensive mistake if I **** it up relatively speaking.
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no doubt it could be an expensive mistake, but if u succeed which i think you will the results will be probably a 4 day battery. so i think its worth it
i got the 2450Mah battery and it holds about 2 days with medium usage, so im really thrilled about ure test as i dont care about the size of the phone,
if you can share pictures it will be great you can also p.m if u want!!
thanks.
Shpapy.
No problem, will do
I charged the battery again last night, and rapid drained it running bluetooth (nothing connected), some GPS usage and wifi with smartshare running a video across from my NAS drive. In the morning it was down to about 25 percent so tried GPS on cycle to work and then drained it with music and GPS until 1%. Charged it without using it, and it's reporting about 1900mah estimated for the battery. I don't rate the estimator as highly accurate btw, but it's a guide .
I will try to take the battery apart tonight if I can. Not sure on best way to open it though, as I will need to reuse the carcass.
Damn.. was taking it apart and fried the circuit it came with. Unfortunately the metal legs that bring power from either side slipped off and touch the outer shell of the battery, was enough for a small yellow spark :-( oh well. (EDIT: Hmm.. circuit may still be alive actually...)
It's two batteries pressed together with several layers of thin plastic between them, either for insulation, spacing or both. I'm actually pretty surprised the cells weren't isolated better from each other.
Update 1: Well, for the first time.. I just managed to burn myself with electricity opps. These packs are really badly isolated. Shorted it on the tip of my finger... beginning to hurt lol. There are NO ratings on these batteries whatsoever. However, one thing they are is... amazingly well balanced. Just measured them and they are both exactly 3.78V's.
Update 2: The circuit and LG Battery will NOT fit directly into the old casing. There will need to either a mod to the extended casing, or we'll just have to 'go without', and make a casing up. It's looking like it's best to do without using the old battery at all actually, and just wire the two batteries together using the LG circuitry. (Well only one of the circuits).
Update 3: Will dig out the soldering iron tonight and get this double battery running
Update 4: Have VERY BADLY soldered the batteries together and combined battery is now charging in the phone. Due to the excess solder on the sides the battery is not quite proper fit, so I will have to redo it at some point. Really very dissappointed with how awful the soldering is, I will simply HAVE to redo it once this experiment is tested. Any tips on a soldering iron chaps? On the plus side, the one thing I do get is a temperature reading :-D
Tip number 1: Quickly snip the circuit off first and DO NOT let it touch the side of the battery casing, it will short out.
TIp number 2: h t t p://www.technfun.com/pages/article.php?id=22 Excellent guide. Take note of the safety tip!!!!
Points of interest
A) The extended battery is EXACTLY double the width of an LG battery.
B) LG OEM Batteries are made by Sanyo
C) Don't use a conventional soldering iron... it is almost impossible to solder the negative side and you will end up overheating the battery if you are not careful. (Any tips here guys?)
Charge battery up last night, and stayed up wayy too late trying to drain it.
Technique... used the 'flashlight' app to keep the LED on, turned on bluetooth, turned on wifi, and use smartshare to stream a movie (at full screen brightness) to the phone. Played Dungeon Defenders for a while as well at full brighness so hopefully the graphics core would take more power. Battery Temp got as high as 40C under 1400mah draw. Odd thing was that battery widget pro at times reported +25000 Mah(ish), yes PLUS '+', and 25000mah, that's just insane..not sure where it was getting the figures from :-(
7% battery left when I put it down, voltage was 3.550 or very close. This morning, voltage it still had 7% left and voltage had increased to 3.7 ish. Guessing it's because the battery was warm last night when under heavy strain, and now it's relaxed and cooled it's feeling better lol. (Or maybe something else?)
Running gps client down now in attempt to drain the rest before recharging. Ideally want to get it down to 1% before a full charge.
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Charge battery up last night, and stayed up wayy too late trying to drain it.
Technique... used the 'flashlight' app to keep the LED on, turned on bluetooth, turned on wifi, and use smartshare to stream a movie (at full screen brightness) to the phone. Played Dungeon Defenders for a while as well at full brighness so hopefully the graphics core would take more power. Battery Temp got as high as 40C under 1400mah draw. Odd thing was that battery widget pro at times reported +25000 Mah(ish), yes PLUS '+', and 25000mah, that's just insane..not sure where it was getting the figures from :-(
7% battery left when I put it down, voltage was 3.550 or very close. This morning, voltage it still had 7% left and voltage had increased to 3.7 ish. Guessing it's because the battery was warm last night when under heavy strain, and now it's relaxed and cooled it's feeling better lol. (Or maybe something else?)
Running gps client down now in attempt to drain the rest before recharging. Ideally want to get it down to 1% before a full charge.
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cool progress , can we get some pictures of the new battery?
how were u able to fit it in? i get u got a bigger case but still....
share with us ure images / knowledge its sounds really cool doing.
I basically copied what they had done on the 3500mah battery, and merely connected up the positive to positive and negative to negative terminals of the batteries using thin strips of metal, and only used one circuit from the LG battery. Basically I parallel the batteries to increase capacity.
I used a small spacer to keep the batteries seperated, but thinking about it, I could have use the bodies themselves as the 'negative' but it wouldn't have been a good connection). I then just taped the battery up and use the 3500mah battery sticker to hold it all together.
This really is just a 'prove it works' / prototype, and I will remake it neater, although I may have to buy a better soldering iron.
Pics later.
Note: After charging back up from 1% this morning to 100%, the 'estimated' mah by Battery Widget Pro is 1551mah. This would indicate to me that one battery is not connected properly unfortunately. I'm gonna run the battery and see how long it lasts under general usage. If it lasts only a day and a half, then I suspect I will have to resolder.
I bought a 3500mah half a year back and it wasn't any good. Twice the width but lasts the same as the original one. It'll be good if you could show us some pictures? I may consider making one too!
To be fair the estimated capacity of the 3500mah was around 1800 to 2000 mah. Pretty good considering it came with an extended back cover for under £5. It does seem entirely random though, and I was never comfortable without a temperature sensor.
The work I have done so far is rubbish to be honest. I thought I'd make a better job of soldering. I will have to redo it, as the fit is terrible due to the solder being too big/messy, and the connections are not very or or not working/broken.
Can't wait to see the results.
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For some reason, battery widget pro was recording very high mah draw/drain. I do not believe I soldered the negative terminals well enough. I took it apart and tried to prise a little flap of metal up for soldering, and managed to rip the terminal off the pack. I will do my best to remedy this of course and let you chaps know the result.
I also have the 3500 mAH and I was wondering if it was really giving 3500 mAH. I'm getting about 1.5 days on this battery with moderate usage. Heavy usage I get about a day. I wonder what I'm doing wrong. I think it's supposed to last longer.
Just bought a Note 2, currently I have a Galaxy S3 with the official extended battery. This gives a small increase in capacity (3000mAh) and also a small amount of thickness added on compared to standard.
Most of the extended batteries for the Note 2 are huge, I am curious to know if anyone has experienced any trusted extended batteries, possibly an extra 1000mAh+, but only adding a small thickness to the phone like the official one for S3, instead of the large batteries like Zerolemon etc.
I've been looking for something like that too. Haven't found one yet. I don't like the bulk that the big extended batteries add to the already huge device.
they are all double the size of the normal battery nothing thinner.
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I dont see the point of buying a thin extended battery. If you want more battery life then get MORE battery life.
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EyLaTnOgN said:
I dont see the point of buying a thin extended battery. If you want more battery life then get MORE battery life.
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Well I don't need a battery that lasts for 4 days or whatever, just slightly longer than stock. And I do not wish to increase the thickness of the phone 2x, 3x etc for extra power that I don't need.
The genuine extended for the S3 was the perfect solution, I just wish similar existed for the Note 2.
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Well I don't need a battery that lasts for 4 days or whatever, just slightly longer than stock. And I do not wish to increase the thickness of the phone 2x, 3x etc for extra power that I don't need.
The genuine extended for the S3 was the perfect solution, I just wish similar existed for the Note 2.
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Hi,
while digging DealExtreme, I found this, I'm wondering if anyone tried it already
Found no review or video on the net about it
Link : http://dx.com/p/keva-cbw-n7100-2400...attery-for-samsung-galaxy-note-2-black-225717
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Hi,
while digging DealExtreme, I found this, I'm wondering if anyone tried it already
Found no review or video on the net about it
Link : http://dx.com/p/keva-cbw-n7100-2400...attery-for-samsung-galaxy-note-2-black-225717
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I have had this same range for my HTC One X. When the battery feeds the device, it constantly told me that the power used is larger than it receives from the battery. So, this is bad!
When the device is off and the battery is full, it is possible to charge the internal device to approximately half full, so this is bad!
ut, worse is to come: My device dropped by accident and, because of this heavy load together with missing protection for the glass (device does NOT protect the face of the device!) the gorilla glass broke to several pieces.
So, unless this is a completely different type (which I doubt!), you better NOT try this one!
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I have had this same range for my HTC One X. When the battery feeds the device, it constantly told me that the power used is larger than it receives from the battery. So, this is bad!
When the device is off and the battery is full, it is possible to charge the internal device to approximately half full, so this is bad!
ut, worse is to come: My device dropped by accident and, because of this heavy load together with missing protection for the glass (device does NOT protect the face of the device!) the gorilla glass broke to several pieces.
So, unless this is a completely different type (which I doubt!), you better NOT try this one!
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Oups ! Thank you very much , too bad, I ordered one already (I liked the idea)
20$ wasted but at least I know I should not use it - or if I do, use maximum caution
Thanks a lot for letting me know, I'll report back is I go crazy enough to try it
What puzzles me is how you supposed to connect it. The case has a built in battery with two pins sticking out in the back. Then you have 2 sets of conductive wires to run from the battery to the phone? Where do you connect it on the phone, wireless charging pins or something? If you have Verizon phone, those not even available on the back, etc.
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What puzzles me is how you supposed to connect it. The case has a built in battery with two pins sticking out in the back. Then you have 2 sets of conductive wires to run from the battery to the phone? Where do you connect it on the phone, wireless charging pins or something? If you have Verizon phone, those not even available on the back, etc.
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I guess it'll take a long time but when I receive it , I'll try to post some pix here
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What puzzles me is how you supposed to connect it. The case has a built in battery with two pins sticking out in the back. Then you have 2 sets of conductive wires to run from the battery to the phone? Where do you connect it on the phone, wireless charging pins or something? If you have Verizon phone, those not even available on the back, etc.
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It looks like something you have to put inside, between battery and connectors.
The end will stick out of the phone. I think it has some glue so it will stick somehow on the case.
After that's connected, you can put the phone onto the external battery and the metal tips of the external battery will fit 'nicely' the glued metal stuff.
My One X already had those connectors for connecting to car etc.
I sure would not like this adaptation of my phone...
First off let me say that I was provided this case free of charge for my honest review of the product. First off I'll list the pros and then the cons of the case
I also did a full video review here https://youtu.be/l0LRHzFdsVU
Pros:
More than double the battery life of stock
Well designed
Feels good in the hand
Cons:
Wireless charging doesn't work
Spen harder to remove
Bulky
Mines coming up as well.. Pros/cons are basically the same..
I have been using this case for several days now, and I can report that it is a very well made product. The case is surprisingly easy to slip onto the phone, but feels secure once in place. It adds bulk, but no more than my 2 piece heavy duty case that I had been using. The biggest difference is that it does add a bit of weight, although it is quite manageable. I normally take my phone off of the charger at 6:30a.m. and put it back on around 11p.m. with about 15% charge left. While using the Zerolemon battery pack I managed to make it from 6:30 in the morning on a Monday all the way until noon on Wednesday. A full 55.5 hours without plugging in! I may not use this case every single day with the added weight, but is definitely something that I will be using on travel days, and long weekends. It has more battery power, and the case offers significantly more protection than the much more expensive competition. I would definitely recommend this product to those that are looking for more power when you are not near an outlet.
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Pros:
More than double the battery life of stock
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What do you mean here? I couldn't charge to full from 20% myself.
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What do you mean here? I couldn't charge to full from 20% myself.
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If you leave the phone alone while it's charging with the case you can get to 100%. For example I only use this case when I work 17 hour shifts at work so if I get down to 15% just put the case on and leave it alone you can get to 100%.
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Okay, I think I see what your saying. You can get the stock battery life again, you can double it. I was thinking double stock sounded like it was twice as powerful as the stock battery was all.
Mind you, I don't think mine would. Even accounting in for pretty heavy drain while it was charging, it wouldn't charge from 0 to full.
Does somebody know or has try it this battery fits to Note 3?