Obviously, the battery has been terrible on this device. I disabled Google Play Services for a day and I want to say my life tripled. However, not having Google Play Service is no way to live; can't access the Play Store, location services don't work, Gmail doesn't work, etc.
I've come across a way to disable only some of the Google Play Services via DisableService app. However, it needs to be rooted. I can't root it via PingPong because my Baseband version ends with 0F1
What are my options here? Wait til I can root it? Wait for 5.1.1 and put up with the subpar battery life? Anything else to significantly improve the battery?
If you have OF1, as of now there is no wait for root. Another exploit may be found but for now, if your on OF1, root is gone, possibly forever.
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ozv101 said:
Obviously, the battery has been terrible on this device. I disabled Google Play Services for a day and I want to say my life tripled. However, not having Google Play Service is no way to live; can't access the Play Store, location services don't work, Gmail doesn't work, etc.
I've come across a way to disable only some of the Google Play Services via DisableService app. However, it needs to be rooted. I can't root it via PingPong because my Baseband version ends with 0F1
What are my options here? Wait til I can root it? Wait for 5.1.1 and put up with the subpar battery life? Anything else to significantly improve the battery?
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I would disagree that battery is terrible, but some basic battery saving techniques without root include dim the screen brightness, disable battery hungry apps such as facebook, S Voice, and instagram, use tasker to automate everything, turn off con.nectivity services such as wifi and bluetooth when not in use, and use greenify (even though root is required for this app to be automated). Also avoid using Googles widgets. Dont use vibrate mode either. Everything else requires root.
i dont have root. my battery is acutally great then when i first very bought the phone. i cycled the battery only to charge it at 2-5% left on battery to full did that for almost one month now and my battery has improved alot. i use the phone quite alot as well. my phone can last a whole day without charge. i have facebook instagram tumbler snapchat installed. using stock launcher as well. i just make sure to close all the apps ive used before my phone goes back into my pocket. when i get home i usally have around 33% battery left. oh i also keep a small powered fan next to my phone when its charging cause the phone does get little hot when it charges but keeping that fan on. when it charges it has changed alot my battery is way better.
Have you tried disabling S-health in App Manager?
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I dosabled google play services cause it eats up my ram and battery but im not sure what it does. My phone is still running fine.. Should i enable it back?
Also what is "devices"? What does it do and can i disable it as well?
Any other useless system running apps i can disable? Thanks.
I think Google play services is linked with Google Play Store, I'd be hesitant about to disable it.
Even if you disabled Google Play Service to get more free ram, Google Play will ask about it at the right time when you try to connect to it.
Ok so first day without the annoying google play service and i noticed a massive improvement in battery life. Before i was getting an hour of standby time per 1 percent battery. Now i got 7 hours from 100-99%. And then dont know why but the succeeding was about 3 hours per 1 percent after that. Still, massive improvement. I am currently on 2 hours screen on time. Surfing, youtube, gaming and texting. I still got 65% battery.
I can still use google playstore without problems. First time i clicked youtube it said i need to update and enable gp services for app to run but i ignored it and it is still perfectly fine. The notice doesnt come the 2nd time you clicked the app so all good. Same goes with maps. No prob at all.
So my conclusion is that google play services is nothing but bloat trying to steal your info every once in a while hence, the battery drain. Try it and you will see what i mean!
I've been thoroughly impressed with battery life on the Moto Z as a result of normal use. Less so with idle battery consumption. That is, after installing my full complement of apps (including facebook and twitter), I did a few tests by going too bed on a full charge, and found that 7 or so hours later, it had burned down 15-20% doing nothing overnight!
I installed gsam batter monitor since the stock one is kind of useless. This provided a lot of valuable info, which is basically that Twitter is a huge hog, Facebook surprisingly isn't, and google play services also seems to be spinning its wheels a lot when I'm doing nothing. But most of my juice was going to powering the wifi radio.
Android M has a setting to turn off wifi when the phone is sleeping. I was reluctant to do this at first because I figured my apps would just start wasting my data instead. However, you also have the ability to selectively limit apps' ability to use cellular data when running in the background. In an app's settings you can click "Data Usage", then "Restrict app background data."
I did this for all the apps that gsam identified as being the wifi/battery users. And frankly there are almost no apps that I actually want using data when I'm not using the app itself anyway, except SMS and gmail. (I wish there was a way to just say "actually shut this app down when I close it", so I could activate it for most apps!)
Anyway -after doing this, I activated the setting to turn off the wifi radio when the phone was sleeping.
Result? 2% battery drain overnight, and minimal cellular data use. Amazing.
(Btw - I also uninstalled the twitter app and just put a link from chrome on my desktop. The web mobile app is very good anyway and I'm not much a twitter addict so this is a fine alternative that is a lot less intrustive for me).
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I've been thoroughly impressed with battery life on the Moto Z as a result of normal use. Less so with idle battery consumption. That is, after installing my full complement of apps (including facebook and twitter), I did a few tests by going too bed on a full charge, and found that 7 or so hours later, it had burned down 15-20% doing nothing overnight!
I installed gsam batter monitor since the stock one is kind of useless. This provided a lot of valuable info, which is basically that Twitter is a huge hog, Facebook surprisingly isn't, and google play services also seems to be spinning its wheels a lot when I'm doing nothing. But most of my juice was going to powering the wifi radio.
Android M has a setting to turn off wifi when the phone is sleeping. I was reluctant to do this at first because I figured my apps would just start wasting my data instead. However, you also have the ability to selectively limit apps' ability to use cellular data when running in the background. In an app's settings you can click "Data Usage", then "Restrict app background data."
I did this for all the apps that gsam identified as being the wifi/battery users. And frankly there are almost no apps that I actually want using data when I'm not using the app itself anyway, except SMS and gmail. (I wish there was a way to just say "actually shut this app down when I close it", so I could activate it for most apps!)
Anyway -after doing this, I activated the setting to turn off the wifi radio when the phone was sleeping.
Result? 2% battery drain overnight, and minimal cellular data use. Amazing.
(Btw - I also uninstalled the twitter app and just put a link from chrome on my desktop. The web mobile app is very good anyway and I'm not much a twitter addict so this is a fine alternative that is a lot less intrustive for me).
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I just got the phone a couple days ago. I appreciate the info here. I have also read that if you just turn wifi to 2.4 GHz only that it will keep the battery drain from happening. I don't use twitter or facebook so don't have to worry about those. Google play services has been a problem since marshmallow. If we could root we could use something like Amplify to stop all the wakelocks, but root is getting hard to come by on these new phones.
I noticed on Gsam that my phone will sleep well for a while, then the "held awake" category starts to take off. I have to reboot to get it to doze again. I have agressive doze and doze on the go activated in Greenify. Not sure what gets it started, but it would be nice to be able to kill it off without rebooting.
I bought a USB C to regular USB and have been charging without the Turbo Charger and the battery is doing so much better.
I was getting frustrated with the battery performance.
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Hi guys,
so i newly setup my phone recently with OOS 4.0.3 in order to have a clean phone for the most efficient use.
For my surprise, for the first time using the 3T my energy efficiency was very good, i managed to get 4,5h SOT with the first 50% because i had almost no drain when the screen was turned off.
I attached the screenshots.
Basically, i just flashed OOS 4.0.3 and the newest franco kernel and magisk for root. I didnt use greenify (which i usually do), just the strict standby option in the android settings.
So far so good, but now to the part i cant understand.
I installed gsam battery monitor and gave it root access, so i can have detailed battery information.
From that point, i experienced again the standby drain combined with wakelooks, as u can see in the screenshot starting around 60% of the battery.
So far i uninstalled the app, i used greenify, but i cant get back when i had no wakelocks.
Is it really because of Gsam Battery? How can get away the standby drain without setting up the phone completely new?
PS: I also deactivated some of the access rights of apps, especially for play services.
Is it possible that they regain the access by themselves or that google play services is draining the battery
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Hi guys,
so i newly setup my phone recently with OOS 4.0.3 in order to have a clean phone for the most efficient use.
For my surprise, for the first time using the 3T my energy efficiency was very good, i managed to get 4,5h SOT with the first 50% because i had almost no drain when the screen was turned off.
I attached the screenshots.
Basically, i just flashed OOS 4.0.3 and the newest franco kernel and magisk for root. I didnt use greenify (which i usually do), just the strict standby option in the android settings.
So far so good, but now to the part i cant understand.
I installed gsam battery monitor and gave it root access, so i can have detailed battery information.
From that point, i experienced again the standby drain combined with wakelooks, as u can see in the screenshot starting around 60% of the battery.
So far i uninstalled the app, i used greenify, but i cant get back when i had no wakelocks.
Is it really because of Gsam Battery? How can get away the standby drain without setting up the phone completely new?
PS: I also deactivated some of the access rights of apps, especially for play services.
Is it possible that they regain the access by themselves or that google play services is draining the battery
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Don't deactivate app rights of play services. It would break the functionality randomly and u won't know what happened. Just enable and reboot. Next time something happens, check the stat in gsam battery monitor. It's a good app and I am using it from 3 years.
It's not gsam I've had it installed on every phone for years and I always get amazing battery life.
I dont use google apps at all besides gmail and maps sometimes. But ill try around if it makes a difference.
I also cant believe that GSAM really is the problem there, but i didnt change anything else, i was just surprised of the good battery life and wanted to see the characteristics of battery statistics when i have a normal standby drain.
And immediatelly from that point on, the standby drain changed as u can see on the screenshots, even after uninstalling GSAM.
I now get 2h SOT with 50%, not 4,5.
So, is it possible that anything influencing that is changing by itself?
I didnt install any app or changed any setting, all i use was setted up in the beginning (franco, magisk, viper, all apps)
Yes google play store and google play services if you downloaded it and installed it that way? Google ruins battery life very randomly. If you restored a titanium backup or sideloaded the app then I have no clue. Even if you didnt do anything different there are a ton of things that can go wrong with android in the background. Recharge and reboot and start over.
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Yes google play store and google play services if you downloaded it and installed it that way? Google ruins battery life very randomly. If you restored a titanium backup or sideloaded the app then I have no clue. Even if you didnt do anything different there are a ton of things that can go wrong with android in the background. Recharge and reboot and start over.
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tried everything already + wiping cache/dalvik
I just now wiped also system and dirty flashed the ROM + the stuff i need. Ill see it that solves the deal.
I just cant accept to not have the control over my phone as thats one of the advantages of rooting. I got the same battery life with same usage with my 2,5 year old OnePlus One.
I run the same apps on every phone and this phone has doubled the performance and battery compared to my nexus 6 note 5 and nexus 6p. First phone I've owned that actually sleeps when I turn off the screen.
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I run the same apps on every phone and this phone has doubled the performance and battery compared to my nexus 6 note 5 and nexus 6p. First phone I've owned that actually sleeps when I turn off the screen.
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The OPO with CM back then was a dream.
Are u using any apps or adjust settings in order to tweak that behavior?
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The OPO with CM back then was a dream.
Are u using any apps or adjust settings in order to tweak that behavior?
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I've been on CM13 since the day it came out Dec 11th. I was getting amazing battery and standby on stock since I got the phone late November. I use xposed for tweaking everything but no modules or apps or settings for battery savings.
LazerH said:
Hi guys,
so i newly setup my phone recently with OOS 4.0.3 in order to have a clean phone for the most efficient use.
For my surprise, for the first time using the 3T my energy efficiency was very good, i managed to get 4,5h SOT with the first 50% because i had almost no drain when the screen was turned off.
I attached the screenshots.
Basically, i just flashed OOS 4.0.3 and the newest franco kernel and magisk for root. I didnt use greenify (which i usually do), just the strict standby option in the android settings.
So far so good, but now to the part i cant understand.
I installed gsam battery monitor and gave it root access, so i can have detailed battery information.
From that point, i experienced again the standby drain combined with wakelooks, as u can see in the screenshot starting around 60% of the battery.
So far i uninstalled the app, i used greenify, but i cant get back when i had no wakelocks.
Is it really because of Gsam Battery? How can get away the standby drain without setting up the phone completely new?
PS: I also deactivated some of the access rights of apps, especially for play services.
Is it possible that they regain the access by themselves or that google play services is draining the battery
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I found 4.0.3 would get wakelocks from location service. I have installed firmware from OOS 3.5.4 and used Leandroid, since then I've had my old battery life back.
damiensturdy said:
I found 4.0.3 would get wakelocks from location service. I have installed firmware from OOS 3.5.4 and used Leandroid, since then I've had my old battery life back.
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I like that app, but its only fully functional with SuperSU. Do u know if there is any similar app also working with Magisk?
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I like that app, but its only fully functional with SuperSU. Do u know if there is any similar app also working with Magisk?
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Which app? Magisk?
Magisk has its own root now. Fyi
Navi44 said:
Which app? Magisk?
Magisk has its own root now. Fyi
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I know, but the app still asks for root permission with SuperSU for all the foot options
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I like that app, but its only fully functional with SuperSU. Do u know if there is any similar app also working with Magisk?
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Some parts of it only work with SuperSU, sure. The important bit that fixes the MRa big does unfortunately.
Not found a magisk equivalent, but I'm eager to find one!
I just recently got my 3T two weeks ago running OOS 4.0.3 and I also notice a lot of wakelocks, especially when on mobile data (3G/4G).
I am still tinkering to figure out what are the root causes for wakelocks in this case.
I suggest you install BetterBatteryStats from XDA, it does provide a lot of good info. GSAM is good too but I prefer BBS. You can grant it permissions to Battery_Stats if you are not rooted.
Here are my findings so far:
Google Services likes to access the GPS a lot, so I turned of Location History. This resulted in fewer wakelocks when the screen is off.
I have changed the GPS and set it to GPS Only so that it doesn't use the cell towers and WiFi to help determine a location. I am not sure if this makes a difference for wakelocks yet.
I know Nougat has doze, I am not sure how well it works...fortunately there is Aggressive Doze in the battery section of the settings. I have not tested this yet but this is something I will look into once I have determined all others aspects that may be causing wakelocks.
I do have the LED notification light enabled and I am using LightFlow to manage it. It works in conjunction with the built-in LED settings from OOS. This is fine, but I do believe this may cause wakelock issues.
Once again, in my experience, I get a lot of wakelocks when I am on mobile data compared to being on WiFi and I am not sure why there is a difference.
Morning all
Probably a silly question but while Bluetooth is on - myy s10 doesnt go to sleep and the battery drains very fast.
With it off its fine.
Unfortunately I use BT for my sony wireless buds and Galaxy watch.
Are there any tweaks to help out with battery life?
Its connected to the watch all the time while im wearing it so is this something i need to get used to?
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Morning all
Probably a silly question but while Bluetooth is on - myy s10 doesnt go to sleep and the battery drains very fast.
With it off its fine.
Unfortunately I use BT for my sony wireless buds and Galaxy watch.
Are there any tweaks to help out with battery life?
Its connected to the watch all the time while im wearing it so is this something i need to get used to?
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Hmmn. I keep mine on to connect to my Xiaomi Mi Band 5 though I notice it Bluetooth does turn off occasionally. Hadn't noticed S10e draining faster (it does seem to still go to sleep) but maybe I haven't been paying enough attention. I'll be interested in any replies.
Try disabling all power management.
Load Karma Firewall. Android Services and Goggle Play Services* are big offenders.
Unfortunately if your on Q or higher Karma's logging feature doesn't work. This shows you real time what's hogging the internet and battery.
Another reason I'm still on Pie.
* enable briefly to access Gmail etc.
I have been using Better Battery Stats to keep an eye on it.
While BT is on the CPU sits at 1.95 at over 90% of the time I've tested it against.
With BT off - it does goto sleep and battery is loads better.
I need it on for the reasons above but its a right hog.
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I have been using Better Battery Stats to keep an eye on it.
While BT is on the CPU sits at 1.95 at over 90% of the time I've tested it against.
With BT off - it does goto sleep and battery is loads better.
I need it on for the reasons above but its a right hog.
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Disabled all power management.
Try clearing apk data and going back to factory load.
Clear system cache on boot menu.
Disable any 3rd party apks other than Wearables using bt.
Start locking down apks that don't really need internet access with Karma Firewall* until you find the hog. Probably a system apk and the drain may actually be from constant internet traffic. Misreporting which apk is the culprit isn't uncommon as many have related dependencies.
*if you're running Q or higher it's logging function is disable I believe. It works fine with Pie and is an important tool. Otherwise you'll need to do it the hard way. Thanks Google, you suck.
Android Services, Google Play Services, Google Backup Transport and Google Framework are all hog candidates. Best to package block the last two and clear apk data on all but Android services as needed. This what I did to take my 10+ running on Pie.
Hi all
I found my Google Play Services run in background about 12 hours a day, this cause an huge battery drain. I tried some fixes but it's not helping. Never had problems with this in any brand or model.
Can someone point me to the right path?
Thanks
Joao
I have the same issue, currently it's almost 2 days background and almost 11% battery drain. I usually get similar results ~5% battery drain per day.
On my S21U looking at a week’s battery usage, Google Play Services has used .7 to 1.4% per day with daily background usage varying between 11 and 23 hours. Active usage is consistently zero every day though. So I am not seeing any battery issues from Google Play Services. How does this compare with your daily Google Play Services battery usage history for the previous week?
Only disabling sync for accounts I can get more 8 to 10% battery, unfortunately. It's strange because as I said never had this problem before in any brand or model including Samsung.
Turn off Mobile background data and go to battery and turn off run in background. If you want to monitor what is going on there is a few tools you can use and some apps are better than others at honoring your selection but it can also cause problems for other apps that are in the background ie music/video players so keep that in mind. download pcapdroid and glasswire it will tell you a lot about what is running at what time of the day and where the data is being sent if you use wireshark to look at the pcap file. start with what i suggested with turning off the two options for each app after you observe the usage of the app and you will thank me later. My battery drain is minimal at idle, overnight it is 2% for a 12 hour period and most of that is email which i don't want optimised and allow to run in background
For me the option to turn off background usage is greyed out. Is there any way around this?
For Google play services itself you can't but if you turn of everything else you will see major improvements. There are a few others you can't turn off but don't worry.
Just disable it. Enable when you need it.
Most times it's not needed at all.
Disable all cloud crap unless you use it.
Google Transport is a prime offender, disable it.
Turn off Google Firebase and all feedback including Samsung, carrier feedback if any.
Use Karma Firewall to block Android Services, Playstore and Google Play Services if disabling it isn't getting it
Karma Firewall uses almost no battery, no ads, a great clean app. Unfortunately it's logging feature doesn't work on high security Q/11.
Thanks for nothing Google...
If you disable google services you will find a lot of Google products stop working. I would not advise doing that. Plus you can only disable with Root or something like Adhell using Knox license.
If you use the tools i suggested you will see a significant battery life improvement without any adverse affects to the usability of your phone. Sure you can disable everything under the sun but some things are needed. I have about 137 apps/bloat disabled and phone runs perfect without any hiccups.
Also using a FW to block a service will not improve battery life per say and the FW itself uses battery and RAM along with system resources to operate. It also uses your VPN so if you need to truely use a VPN you give that option up, ie VPN based ad blockers. The requests will constantly occur from the app when it times out or it is blocked. You are better off disabling it if you don't want to live in the google echosystem or care if some apps work or not.
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If you disable google services you will find a lot of Google products stop working. I would not advise doing that. Plus you can only disable with Root or something like Adhell using Knox license.
If you use the tools i suggested you will see a significant battery life improvement without any adverse affects to the usability of your phone. Sure you can disable everything under the sun but some things are needed. I have about 137 apps/bloat disabled and phone runs perfect without any hiccups.
Also using a FW to block a service will not improve battery life per say and the FW itself uses battery and RAM along with system resources to operate. It also uses your VPN so if you need to truely use a VPN you give that option up, ie VPN based ad blockers. The requests will constantly occur from the app when it times out or it is blocked. You are better off disabling it if you don't want to live in the google echosystem or care if some apps work or not.
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Gmail, Playstore and Gmaps are the only useful Google apps. Google Play Services can easily be enabled as needed.
Otherwise it's a data sucking battery hog that needs a good kick in the head.
I've had it with Google's endless big sister bs.
And... Firewall blocking with Karma Firewall does improve battery life if you block the apks I mentioned.
For the last 12 hours this is how much battery Karma used...
GPS supports a lot more than just google products.
There is no free lunch you FW still consumes battery and you are not seeing the system resources utilized by the FW.
Not going to argue about this, do as you wish.
arf8 said:
GPS supports a lot more than just google products.
There is no free lunch you FW still consumes battery and you are not seeing the system resources utilized by the FW.
Not going to argue about this, do as you wish.
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Try it, it's easy enough to undo if it's problematic.
Google Play Services was literally polling the internet 4 times every minute at idle. Unacceptable.
jtlivio said:
Hi all
I found my Google Play Services run in background about 12 hours a day, this cause an huge battery drain. I tried some fixes but it's not helping. Never had problems with this in any brand or model.
Can someone point me to the right path?
Thanks
Joao
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You must have some bug or some special telemetry option turned ON somewhere.
Never seen this kind of behavior.
I wonder if anyone has ever analyzed what normal behavior is on an Android phone where the user turns off all telemetry options that they can.
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You must have some bug or some special telemetry option turned ON somewhere.
Never seen this kind of behavior.
I wonder if anyone has ever analyzed what normal behavior is on an Android phone where the user turns off all telemetry options that they can.
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I did. Tried everything including disabling Firebase. Transport Services runs a lot even when toggle off. Finally package block it.
Disabling Google Play Services is the only thing that gets it on my N10+ (Pie).
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I did. Tried everything including disabling Firebase. Transport Services runs a lot even when toggle off. Finally package block it.
Disabling Google Play Services is the only thing that gets it on my N10+ (Pie).
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You ever try just setting your WiFi connection as Metered?
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You ever try just setting your WiFi connection as Metered?
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Wifi is always disabled.