Is the screen protection same as Xperia go or its improved? Shatter proof and scratch resistant glass? Does IP5X cerifications n all contribute to that?... they say Xperia Z will survive an type of drop from hands from pocket height or shoulder height n all... will that be same for xperia ZL ?
Screen protection is supposed to be a lot better - people believe Z uses Dragontrail glass which is very good - although it hasn't been confirmed. IP certifications only state the phone is dust/water resistant, it has nothing to do with its resistance to fall damage. There are tests showing that Z really does survive a fall - thanks to tempered glass and glass fiber body - but we have to wait for real life tests. ZL should be the same, it uses the same glass i think.
Hope that the glass on back side of Z is also of same material... i will not want cracks on back side . Xperia go was pretty strong though ... any improvement over that is massive. Thing is i have not heard any such comments about Xperia ZL. I doubt they both use different materials for protective glass... Company and material is still secret
It's been confirmed that it uses the same glass on both front and back so no worries there
So I am planning on buying this magnificent phone but did some thinking while i was showering. Got all these text messages and tempted to text back in the shower. Since the Xperia Z is nearly made out of glass materials; according to Sony viet, I've been wondering is the same thing going to happen to the Xperia Z like the Nexus 4?
For those who already owns the Xperia Z:
It would be a huge problem for those who will have to do imports from another country. How durable are these glass? It can survive heights but how about sudden temperature change?
and one more question, there's no point applying screen protectors if you plan on getting the phone wet right?
As far as I know the Xperia Z's glass should be a bit more durable than the Nexus 4's, but until it hits the market in more countries we won't really know. I'd be surprised if the glass would crack because of temperature changes though.
Applying an extra screenprotector on top of the shatter-proof sheet shouldn't be a problem. It might loosen faster if it gets wet but I don't think you'll notice much difference.
The only difference between them is that Nexus uses Gorilla Glass, and Sony uses tempered glass. As great as Gorilla Glass is, it's hardened properties don't make it temperature resistant. The process of glass tempering, in theory, makes it resistant to sudden temperature changes - they use the same technology to make glass for ovens etc. So I think it shouldn't happen with Xperia, but we'll never know unless somebody takes time and money to make a test.
Screen protectors shouldn't be bothered by water. If they're static, then they'll stay on. Those that use glue might start to peel off after a while.
Ambroos said:
As far as I know the Xperia Z's glass should be a bit more durable than the Nexus 4's, but until it hits the market in more countries we won't really know. I'd be surprised if the glass would crack because of temperature changes though.
Applying an extra screenprotector on top of the shatter-proof sheet shouldn't be a problem. It might loosen faster if it gets wet but I don't think you'll notice much difference.
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Just wondering, have you tried taking it to the shower with you? lol
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The only difference between them is that Nexus uses Gorilla Glass, and Sony uses tempered glass. As great as Gorilla Glass is, it's hardened properties don't make it temperature resistant. The process of glass tempering, in theory, makes it resistant to sudden temperature changes - they use the same technology to make glass for ovens etc. So I think it shouldn't happen with Xperia, but we'll never know unless somebody takes time and money to make a test.
Screen protectors shouldn't be bothered by water. If they're static, then they'll stay on. Those that use glue might start to peel off after a while.
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well according to that link, the back glass of the Z is made out of Gorilla glass, and the front is made out of Dragontrail.
I forgot where i read it from, some Sony employee stated that the front and the back uses the same glass. >_____>
Accordingly the glass front of the Xperia Z Dragontrail glasses of Japanese with tremendous strength capacity of about 60kg or sharp objects directly on the screen. On the back of a click-toughened Gorilla Glass scratch-resistant and finally the other components of the body using Polycarbonate material and fiberglass (glass fiber polymer) normal 300 times more durable plastic.
LitoNi said:
Just wondering, have you tried taking it to the shower with you? lol
well according to that link, the back glass of the Z is made out of Gorilla glass, and the front is made out of Dragontrail.
I forgot where i read it from, some Sony employee stated that the front and the back uses the same glass. >_____>
Accordingly the glass front of the Xperia Z Dragontrail glasses of Japanese with tremendous strength capacity of about 60kg or sharp objects directly on the screen. On the back of a click-toughened Gorilla Glass scratch-resistant and finally the other components of the body using Polycarbonate material and fiberglass (glass fiber polymer) normal 300 times more durable plastic.
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http://www.eprice.com.hk/mobile/talk/4551/49606/1/rv/sony-xperia-z-L36h-review/
If those are genuine Sony slides, than we finally have a confirmation:
Front: Dragontrail Glass
Back: Gorilla Glass
Sides: Polycarbonate
Body: Glass Fiber Polyamide
LitoNi said:
Just wondering, have you tried taking it to the shower with you? lol
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Nope, not yet I have washed it in the sink a few times and it just ain't bothered by any water! It's a very, very weird feeling and part of my brain was screaming "Nooooooooooo!" but it's all fine
Akiainavas said:
http://www.eprice.com.hk/mobile/talk/4551/49606/1/rv/sony-xperia-z-L36h-review/
If those are genuine Sony slides, than we finally have a confirmation:
Front: Dragontrail Glass
Back: Gorilla Glass
Sides: Polycarbonate
Body: Glass Fiber Polyamide
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Why would they have gorilla on the back and dragontrail on the front though?
Isn't Nexus 4 gorilla on the back or is that some kind of weaker glass? (Was thinking about the crackings due to sudden changes in temp)
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Why would they have gorilla on the back and dragontrail on the front though?
Isn't Nexus 4 gorilla on the back or is that some kind of weaker glass? (Was thinking about the crackings due to sudden changes in temp)
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No idea. Heard that Nexus 4's back is not gorilla glass though. Also, Nexus 4 wasn't the first phone to use glass back, and this problem seems to be bugging mostly Nexus 4 users ( not often found in any other brand ) so maybe it's some kind of LG specific defect.
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No idea. Heard that Nexus 4's back is not gorilla glass though. Also, Nexus 4 wasn't the first phone to use glass back, and this problem seems to be bugging mostly Nexus 4 users ( not often found in any other brand ) so maybe it's some kind of LG specific defect.
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I have a faint memory about the back not being gorilla on nexus 4 and now that you mention it i haven't hear anything about other phones with cracks (except iphones but they're meant to break just by looking at it..)
I have spoken to a Sony Rep and apparently Sony uses Gorilla Glass 2 as well as DragonTrail. Devices will come with either one installed. (you might have the front panel made of GG2 and back from DT) and consumers will not have a choice of the glass used. The back panel of the phone has an additional layer on the glass which provides some glare effect (so that could be the layer that is being scratched and not the actual glass). On the front there will be a screen protector preinstalled.
Users will not have an option to select the glass used in their phone, so we will either have GG2 or DT on the front and either GG2 or DT on the back. I think that this should also clarify the on going debate about which glass is used in Xperia Z.
Omg that's so bad. Might have to hold back on this one.
I still don't understand why Sony would do such a thing. Wouldn't it be easier for them to use both DT? Or are they cheaping out on the glass?
May I ask which sony you asked? Europe? Hong Kong?
LitoNi said:
Omg that's so bad. Might have to hold back on this one.
I still don't understand why Sony would do such a thing. Wouldn't it be easier for them to use both DT? Or are they cheaping out on the glass?
May I ask which sony you asked? Europe? Hong Kong?
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I am from Poland and I spoke to official Sony rep. I got his number from a Sony Store in Poznan, Poland after I asked them if I could do a scratch test on their display device in store
Sv: [Q] Xperia Z Dragontrail, Gorilla Glass, Polycarbonate, glass fiber
I was concerned about the glass on the Nexus 4 until I dropped it once and then a couple more times... so far it is intact... in my opinion Sony has far bettef manufacturing than LG but will see what happens. Phonewise I am not impressed by the Nexus 4 but for tha price you cannot complain ...
Skickat från min Nexus 4
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I have spoken to a Sony Rep and apparently Sony uses Gorilla Glass 2 as well as DragonTrail. Devices will come with either one installed. (you might have the front panel made of GG2 and back from DT) and consumers will not have a choice of the glass used. The back panel of the phone has an additional layer on the glass which provides some glare effect (so that could be the layer that is being scratched and not the actual glass). On the front there will be a screen protector preinstalled.
Users will not have an option to select the glass used in their phone, so we will either have GG2 or DT on the front and either GG2 or DT on the back. I think that this should also clarify the on going debate about which glass is used in Xperia Z.
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I don't think you can use two types of glass like that, with one device getting one or another... XZ wouldn't be certified for release ( by the likes of FCC etc ) if that were true. You need to provide one, particular specification for each device to be allowed to even release it on the market. You could file a class law suit for selling randomly inferior devices as the same model and for the same price - Sony certainly wouldn't do that. There might be some regional differences, but it's certainly not GG or DT at random. I think they might have made a mistake or didn't know this at all.
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I don't think you can use two types of glass like that, with one device getting one or another... XZ wouldn't be certified for release ( by the likes of FCC etc ) if that were true. You need to provide one, particular specification for each device to be allowed to even release it on the market. You could file a class law suit for selling randomly inferior devices as the same model and for the same price - Sony certainly wouldn't do that. There might be some regional differences, but it's certainly not GG or DT at random. I think they might have made a mistake or didn't know this at all.
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Why would the FCC give a crap what glass is used? They are a communications regulator not a design regulator.
It is highly unlikely that the glass would cause communication issues, or interference with other electronics
i did a search and i could not find a thread about this
i have a question about screen protectors do i need them for my xperia z
i want one only at the back
i have plans on peeling off the anti shatter film from the front i see no reason in doing it at the back or should i?
i want a screen protector for one single reason and that is antifingerprint coating
i have read that the xperia z is a fingerprint magnet and i want to avoid that so i want to buy a full body screen protector
zagg screen protector (the retailer i bought the xperia z from said sony recommended invisible shield thats why the retailer has it for sale with the z)
do i need a screen protector for the back only to avoid fingerprints and smudges does invisible shield do that
as in the original edition
is there any point in removing the anti shatter film from the back aswell? i see no reason for it but i don't know
zzcool said:
i did a search and i could not find a thread about this
i have a question about screen protectors do i need them for my xperia z
i want one only at the back
i have plans on peeling off the anti shatter film from the front i see no reason in doing it at the back or should i?
i want a screen protector for one single reason and that is antifingerprint coating
i have read that the xperia z is a fingerprint magnet and i want to avoid that so i want to buy a full body screen protector
zagg screen protector (the retailer i bought the xperia z from said sony recommended invisible shield thats why the retailer has it for sale with the z)
do i need a screen protector for the back only to avoid fingerprints and smudges does invisible shield do that
as in the original edition
is there any point in removing the anti shatter film from the back aswell? i see no reason for it but i don't know
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I actually put the supplied ones on both the front and the back, and to be honest I cant tell they are on the phone at all. The main reason for doing this is because the phone is in my pockets with keys etc and yeah people will say it won't get scratched but I rather have them on for now then in a few months time take them off. Also with the protectors on you can only see a couple of finger print marks, I don't think it is as bad as say the ipad screen and this is when in certain light/angles and the screen is off.
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I actually put the supplied ones on both the front and the back, and to be honest I cant tell they are on the phone at all. The main reason for doing this is because the phone is in my pockets with keys etc and yeah people will say it won't get scratched but I rather have them on for now then in a few months time take them off. Also with the protectors on you can only see a couple of finger print marks, I don't think it is as bad as say the ipad screen and this is when in certain light/angles and the screen is off.
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how much less/more fingerprints
without the screen protector?
i care mostly about fingerprint protecting i am far too careful to get scratches i will for example never put my phone next to something it is either in a plastic bag or a case
hello xda , :fingers-crossed:
i wanna buy a new phone and iam admiring the xperia z1 , but iam a little anxious about some things , one of them is the screen as it is not Ghorilla Glass , i had a samsung galaxy s2 and it was really resistant against scratches , so i dont want to pay lots of money on a phone which could be scratched so easily.
so i just wanted to ask people here who already have the Z1 about their experience with that phone's screen and their overall rating to the phone and its camera, cause i've read many posts that the camera wasn't like what they expected
thanks in advance
Check out Glass-M. They make a tempered glass screen protector for the z1 for like 17USD, mines in the mail. I always put a screen protector as soon as possible, even a 5$ urethane protector can easily stop a scratch that would be ridiculously expensive to repair. Gorilla glass wont save you. Stock glass feels better then urethane, but i can always replace a damaged screen protector.
The camera is usually covered by a sapphire lens i believe, which is much harder then the glass screen and doesn't need to be protected. Just keep your diamonds in a different pocket and you wont scratch it.
My advice, get a screen protector for it before you take it out of the box. Mine was scratched after 2 days, compared to all the other phones I've had (HTC One, SGN, SGSIII etc) I have never had a scratch on the screen. The glass itself is tough, it's just the anti shatter film they put over the top of it which scratches easily. It's like having a cheap screen protector on but they say you void your warranty if you pull it off to replace it once it's scratched.
Go with a tempered glass one. I love the phone, just not the cheap film they put over it.
thanks for your fast response guys :angel:
Is this Tempered Glass projected to being scratched and i'll need to replace it several times ? or it is a scratch-resistant glass which will act like gorilla glass maybe ?
and is the camera worth it ? one of my main reasons of choosing that phone is its camera , but i've read many posts which say that camera sucks , and another posts which say that camera is great !! anybody here has any actual experience with this camera ?!
no one has tried z1 or has faced what iam telling or what :crying:
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no one has tried z1 or has faced what iam telling or what :crying:
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The camera is good, just not mind blowing. If you take picture in good light pictures will be fine. In the end its still a small sensor and will not replace my full frame camera. The Glass-m is made of gorilla glass and is pretty tough. The reason for putting one on as soon as you get it is due the anti shatter film sony insists on putting on. This ASF scratches very easily
With my Z1 compact I was able to find a tempered glass protector for the rear panel. Whilst also having one on the front it kept my phone pristine all over.
I cant seem to find a rear tempered glass protector for the rear of the z3 compact, that has a cut out for the camera and flash.
Does anyone know where/when this might become available?
Or what effect if any would there be if i just stuck a tempered glass protector on the back that didn't have cut outs?
Cheers
Woza72 said:
With my Z1 compact I was able to find a tempered glass protector for the rear panel. Whilst also having one on the front it kept my phone pristine all over.
I cant seem to find a rear tempered glass protector for the rear of the z3 compact, that has a cut out for the camera and flash.
Does anyone know where/when this might become available?
Or what effect if any would there be if i just stuck a tempered glass protector on the back that didn't have cut outs?
Cheers
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1 has been posted in the "Xperia Z3 Compact Accessories" section about 8h ago, did you even look there?
Obviously not, thanks for your pleasant reply!