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Menu button

Please tell me you can get rid of that ugly black bar menu button in apps. Is there a way to route the menu button to holding down the back button or something? This will decide if I buy the phone or not.

Yes it is possible but at the moment only of you root. The option was available in pre release software so it's always possible HTC will include the option in a future update.
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tdingene said:
Yes it is possible but at the moment only of you root. The option was available in pre release software so it's always possible HTC will include the option in a future update.
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Thanks, guess I won't be purchasing the phone.

brian85 said:
Thanks, guess I won't be purchasing the phone.
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That's awesome. Glad u made such a wise decision.
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Wow, not purchasing the phone due to that? Come on dude, please tell me you are not that anal retentive over something so small.
Then again what is small to me, might be huge to someone else.
Losing out on what looks to be an awesome phone and may even be fixed with a future OTA update..
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Thanks, guess I won't be purchasing the phone.
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How can you not purchase the phone over a silly problem as that?? anyways rooting is an option also wait for htc to update it

It's not a dealbreaker to me but I understand that it can be for someone as it takes away some screen real estate. For the same reason software buttons are a dealbreaker to so many people.

Because its annoying and takes up real estate on a screen that is only 4.7". I'm confident it will be fixed via software update. But if would sure piss me off until then. Assuming this thing ever gets released I the US... I'll still buy
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CreepyDroid said:
It's not a dealbreaker to me but I understand that it can be for someone as it takes away some screen real estate. For the same reason software buttons are a dealbreaker to so many people.
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CraigP17 said:
Because its annoying and takes up real estate on a screen that is only 4.7". I'm confident it will be fixed via software update. But if would sure piss me off until then. Assuming this thing ever gets released I the US... I'll still buy
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Both of these. It's annoying as hell and I don't want to "hack" my phone to get rid of it.
I'll wait and see if the US models have the option to get rid of it at launch. If not, different phone for me (I'm not going to wait for a software update that could "possibly" happen).

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flyaway9000 said:
How can you not purchase the phone over a silly problem as that?? anyways rooting is an option also wait for htc to update it
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Honestly... If this was the only new phone coming to the market this year your argument might make sense. I dunno his opinion but for me. I like having a consistent menu button and not having onscreen buttons... Now when you have this and the galaxy s IV among other phones coming out or currently out... And like some of the stuff with each, and one has something that you know aggravates you, it could be enough to send you to a different phone.
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I am the one who made the mod to remove that menu button on the screen and reverted back the option to map it on the back button. Apparently it's just a bug and they did not remove it. So expect it to be fixed/back on the next standard update when the phone is already released globally.
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Both of these. It's annoying as hell and I don't want to "hack" my phone to get rid of it.
I'll wait and see if the US models have the option to get rid of it at launch. If not, different phone for me (I'm not going to wait for a software update that could "possibly" happen).
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brian85 said:
Thanks, guess I won't be purchasing the phone.
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I thought exactly the same way and even cancelled my pre-order because of that but after playing around with a mates HTC One I was like.... woah this ain't as bad as I thought it would be and ordered one again a couple of days later.
Trust me with the screen as big as it is you end up with the same usable space with the menu bar as the Nexus 4 and I am sure a firmware fix will be coming in the future and/or apps will be updated to match the google guidelines (facebook are you seeing this!!!)
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Riyal said:
I am the one who made the mod to remove that menu button on the screen and reverted back the option to map it on the back button. Apparently it's just a bug and they did not remove it. So expect it to be fixed/back on the next standard update when the phone is already released globally.
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Where did you hear it's just a bug and you expect it will be fixed in the next update?

Like I said I was the one who made that mod in the development section. Obviously I already know how it functions/why it's not showing up in the menu/why it's not working in the stock ROM. And the whole code was in there and intact. It was just not updated so it's not showing itself in the menu options.
If I translate the code in english language it goes like this.
Back menu option: Hey are you "HTC One-debug"?
HTC One: No I am "HTC One"
Back menu option: Sorry then you can't use me I'm only available on a device named "HTC One-debug" not "HTC One"
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So what I did was
HTC One: Hi!
Back menu option: Enough talk! Just use me.
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Sounds stupid if you're not a programmer but really! That's whats happening there! lol
daleski75 said:
I thought exactly the same way and even cancelled my pre-order because of that but after playing around with a mates HTC One I was like.... woah this ain't as bad as I thought it would be and ordered one again a couple of days later.
Trust me with the screen as big as it is you end up with the same usable space with the menu bar as the Nexus 4 and I am sure a firmware fix will be coming in the future and/or apps will be updated to match the google guidelines (facebook are you seeing this!!!)
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Where did you hear it's just a bug and you expect it will be fixed in the next update?
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Riyal said:
Like I said I was the one who made that mod in the development section. Obviously I already know how it functions/why it's not showing up in the menu/why it's not working in the stock ROM. And the whole code was in there and intact. It was just not updated so it's not showing itself in the menu options.
If I translate the code in english language it goes like this.
So what I did was
Sounds stupid if you're not a programmer but really! That's whats happening there! lol
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I asked about where did you hear the information about the fix in the next update not kiddie speak for explaining how you fixed the issue.

1. Properly designed apps that use Google's design framework will have an in-app menu button. So no black menu bar. Vast majority of apps now won't require the black bar.
2. HTC got rid of it on the One X when user feedback said they wanted it gone. I see no reason to assume they won't do it again if enough people say they don't want it.

Like I said it's just a minor bug. HTC just skipped updating this one piece of code for it to work on the production units.
Meh! I give up! lol
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I asked about where did you hear the information about the fix in the next update not kiddie speak for explaining how you fixed the issue.
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daleski75 said:
I asked about where did you hear the information about the fix in the next update not kiddie speak for explaining how you fixed the issue.
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He was merely explaining how the bug worked to point out that mapping Menu to Long-Back option is, actually, meant to still be there. HTC simply forgot to make sure that scripts in all places were talking about the same device.
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I know it's a bug and how he fixed it but let me quote what he said...
Apparently it's just a bug and they did not remove it. So expect it to be fixed/back on the next standard update when the phone is already released globally.
Was this bit just guessing or is it from a well known source??

JesseMT4G said:
Wow, not purchasing the phone due to that? Come on dude, please tell me you are not that anal retentive over something so small.
Then again what is small to me, might be huge to someone else.
Losing out on what looks to be an awesome phone and may even be fixed with a future OTA update..
Sent from a galaxy far away!
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Flaming isnt necessary really
People use their phone differently, its the same reason why theres never a "best rom" or a rom with the "best battery life"
And to the other comments, its likely not to be patched so that they have more reasons to sell a "developer" version

I may have a bad news related on HTC to bring back button remapping options.
Just saw engadget chinese mention in their HTC One review about that Google MIGHT be the force behind that lead to HTC sudden removal the remapping option from HTC One's newer ROM because Google insisting the menu button must somehow be 'observable' on sight.
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to Flex or not to Flex

ive been with XDA a while now and it keeps me off the streets and away from drugs and alcohol. I have had the Infuse, Note 1 and now the Mega 6.3.
I have rooted and flashed more times than I can count, even if I take my shoes off, except for the Mega. (stooped bootloader)
having a few minor issues with my Mega and have been given the option to trade in. even with its issues, I love the real estate of 6.3 inches. who wouldn't right?
once you feel the girthyness, a 5.? screen just doesn't cut it.
so in the store I discovered the Flex and was surprised to find out it is a 6 inch screen. that I can deal with.
I have been doing some reading here as to the satisfaction with the device. I do trust the majority of folks here on XDA and would like to solicit even more feedback. maybe some inclination as to the possible future of development here.
let her rip

I can attest to the awesomeness of the screen real estate for sure! It is a 720p screen so keep that in mind, but videos and pictures do not suffer bc of it.. I absolutely love the way it feels in hand, in pocket, and during a phone call. This is the first phone I've used that I can pinch between my shoulder and cheek, and not have someone complain because they can't hear me anymore.. The phone is only lacking in one area, IMO, and that would be the lack of integration of the screen.. The lock screen effect is cool, but I'd like to see that utilized in menus, Chrome, Google Now and the like..The battery is a damn monster, no doubt about it! I easily get two days worth of use and 6 hours screen time every charge cycle!

there is at least 5 or 6 threads just like this man; no need to start another one..

wase4711 said:
there is at least 5 or 6 threads just like this man; no need to start another one..
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maybe so but pointless posts pointing those types of things out are just as bad...

deadenz said:
maybe so but pointless posts pointing those types of things out are just as bad...
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True, but wase post wasn't pointless. By pointing it out maybe next time the op will look and go hey there already a bunch of threads about this topic maybe I should post in one of then.
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I did mean to add that I love my flex. As to development it's looking like a bootloader bypass is in the near future with several devs already saying they're bringing AOSP based ROMs and I know I'll be releasing a stock based with light theme work (i.e. no more ugly grey).
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wase4711 said:
there is at least 5 or 6 threads just like this man; no need to start another one..
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I recognise your avatar from the Note threads, or was it the Infuse? Although I havent seen it in a while.
As stated, I did see and have read 2 or 3 post with the like or dislike agenda in the threads. I am also aware if the many threads that exist in the context of "what is the best rom".
The future of the development was intended to be the main question. I got the Mega in hope of a real future in development for the phone and now it is all but dead, for At&t variation that is. I was attempting to not walk down that road again.
With your experience here and a recognized face sort of speak, I tbought that your XDA experience, and others alike, might see that and offer the valued insight I seek.
But I thank you for your very predictable response.
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The Flex hasn't been out that long. With time development should pick up but who really knows. LG locked it down good and at this time we have no recovery. I'm a flash whore as well but it's nice to take a break and get other things done. lol

captemo said:
I recognise your avatar from the Note threads, or was it the Infuse? Although I havent seen it in a while.
As stated, I did see and have read 2 or 3 post with the like or dislike agenda in the threads. I am also aware if the many threads that exist in the context of "what is the best rom".
The future of the development was intended to be the main question. I got the Mega in hope of a real future in development for the phone and now it is all but dead, for At&t variation that is. I was attempting to not walk down that road again.
With your experience here and a recognized face sort of speak, I tbought that your XDA experience, and others alike, might see that and offer the valued insight I seek.
But I thank you for your very predictable response.
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You didnt ask about the future of development in your OP post, so that wasn't addressed by anyone.
And, who can say what the "future" holds? At this point, we're just hoping for a custom recovery..
Your welcome for the predictable response....

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I have been doing some reading here as to the satisfaction with the device. I do trust the majority of folks here on XDA and would like to solicit even more feedback. maybe some inclination as to the possible future of development here.
let her rip
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I guess I had to quote myself
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It's an awesome phone. Like LG's software better as well. Runs smoother than my note 2 and feels better in the hand. I honestly don't think you go wrong if you decide on this phone. Best thing to do is go to a store and test it out. Worse case you have 14 days to test drive it, just need to pay the 50$ restocking fee.
Personally haven't felt the need to root this beast yet. It does amazing out of the box.
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I think I'm going to switch to the Note 3. I have a few apps that I use that don't work properly on this phone, that worked perfectly fine on my Note 2. Also I miss the physical home button. I end up hitting the onscreen home button rather than the spacebar on my Flex, and I hate that.
Don't get me wrong, I love the Flex, and I would keep it if it weren't for those issues. I think if you factor out this issues I have, its a much nicer device
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Tornlogic said:
I think I'm going to switch to the Note 3. I have a few apps that I use that don't work properly on this phone, that worked perfectly fine on my Note 2. Also I miss the physical home button. I end up hitting the onscreen home button rather than the spacebar on my Flex, and I hate that.
Don't get me wrong, I love the Flex, and I would keep it if it weren't for those issues. I think if you factor out this issues I have, its a much nicer device
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Can always change around the home keys and see if that helps.
Curious as to what apps don't work. All my apps work just fine. Had a ton of them to boot.
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Tornlogic said:
I think I'm going to switch to the Note 3. I have a few apps that I use that don't work properly on this phone, that worked perfectly fine on my Note 2. Also I miss the physical home button. I end up hitting the onscreen home button rather than the spacebar on my Flex, and I hate that.
Don't get me wrong, I love the Flex, and I would keep it if it weren't for those issues. I think if you factor out this issues I have, its a much nicer device
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I hated that as well lol. There is the option to swipe the bottom row keys to the right or left. It might help some, but I found that it becomes a nuisance after a while. I was in your boots as well and did make the switch to the N3 and am happy. I miss the curve and a few small nuances of the Flex, but I don't regret switching.

Pretty sure the G2 xposed app lets you shrink the nav bar so you won't hit the button by mistake. LG needs to have that option with stock.
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captemo said:
ive been with XDA a while now and it keeps me off the streets and away from drugs and alcohol. I have had the Infuse, Note 1 and now the Mega 6.3.
I have rooted and flashed more times than I can count, even if I take my shoes off, except for the Mega. (stooped bootloader)
having a few minor issues with my Mega and have been given the option to trade in. even with its issues, I love the real estate of 6.3 inches. who wouldn't right?
once you feel the girthyness, a 5.? screen just doesn't cut it.
so in the store I discovered the Flex and was surprised to find out it is a 6 inch screen. that I can deal with.
I have been doing some reading here as to the satisfaction with the device. I do trust the majority of folks here on XDA and would like to solicit even more feedback. maybe some inclination as to the possible future of development here.
let her rip
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its a great phone, but its not ever going to get any development traction, youre probably better off switching to a note or a g2

Get rid of custom lock pad on reboot

This is what I use to get rid of the custom lock pad sign from the bootloader when you reboot. Some people got it after they rooted and disabled some apps like me. It's in wanam xposed. Below is a pic to show where it is. It works very well. It takes a couple reboots after you enable it for it to take effect. But after that I have not seen it come back at all. Just wanted to share my findings with others. Hopefully it helps others who may have been looking for the same solution.
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First thing i did.
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Greycloak42 said:
First thing i did.
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It's good to know, but a flash of the SM-G900A firmware from here on XDA, minus the BL bootloader file, gets rid of that anyway. It's not that big of a deal whether it's there or not, unless you're taking the phone in for warranty service.

shortydoggg said:
It's good to know, but a flash of the SM-G900A firmware from here on XDA, minus the BL bootloader file, gets rid of that anyway. It's not that big of a deal whether it's there or not, unless you're taking the phone in for warranty service.
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No one said it was a big deal or not. It's sharing of information that is what xda is all about. And since there is no other post in our forum about it, this is why I shared. Has nothing to do with what way is better or being a big deal.
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freebee269 said:
No one said it was a big deal or not. It's sharing of information that is what xda is all about. And since there is no other post in our forum about it, this is why I shared. Has nothing to do with what way is better or being a big deal.
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I did this and rebooted mine 5 times.. Never went away. Xposed is working fine because i also added screen shot to menu and the reboot options. but cant get rid of the security lock back to normal.

All i did was that i download the latest supersu from chainfire updated su binary reboot and got that lockpad away
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That worked thanks!

So how did you get rid of it exactly?
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Install the supersu.apk located in the file i just uploaded and update su binary reboot 3 times and it should have remove the padlock

It's not giving me option to update binary
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It's always the same thing every time a new Samsung phone comes out. Maybe I can save some people some time and tell you each phone can and will show the custom lock icon at different times no matter what you do. In other words, if you do something that stops it from showing on your phone, there is absolutely NO guarantee that the same method will stop it from showing on someone else's phone. The scan that selects if the custom status or unlock icon is shown or not occurs on each individual phone at the time of boot. Therefore, depending on the current state of each phone, it might show or not show. The only real way to stop it from showing is through a mod (located in the AT&T S4 section) that actually modifies system files. X-posed modules just cover the icon, so the appearance is just graphical. It works for most (though it isn't truly changing anything), but for some it still doesn't. AGAIN. JUST BECAUSE SOMETHING WORKS ON YOUR PHONE,DOES NOT MEAN IT WILL WORK ON OTHERS...it just might.

glad it worked

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That worked thanks!
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glad it worked for you.

freebee269 said:
well that's just common sense. and nowhere did i say this will work on everyones phone. i just pointed out an option that worked for me. i shared info that worked for me in hopes it helped someone else out. this is what this community is about right? and i see it worked for someone else also. the best thing you can do is to not reply to this topic if you have nothing to bring to it. and that paragraph you typed brought nothing to this topic but complaining.
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This forum isn't just about you. Posts like yours FAIL to mention that it might not work for everyone trying it so people that it doesn't work for are left wondering what they did wrong. When in fact, they have done nothing wrong. Mentioning what works for you is great, but stop getting so offensive when someone adds more information or states that your solution might not work for everyone. You should be welcoming the addition of useful information instead of acting like "nothing was brought to YOUR thread" because you didn't know about it or mention it. A little research about X-posed and SysScope should be done by anyone wanting to permanently get rid of the custom lock icon.
Not only did I mention that X-posed might not work for some, but I also mentioned a permanent modification to get rid of the custom icon instead of just covering it up with X-posed modules. Now how exactly did my paragraph have nothing to do with this topic?

scott14719 said:
This forum isn't just about you. Posts like yours FAIL to mention that it might not work for everyone trying it so people that it doesn't work for are left wondering what they did wrong. When in fact, they have done nothing wrong. Mentioning what works for you is great, but stop getting so offensive when someone adds more information or states that your solution might not work for everyone. You should be welcoming the addition of useful information instead of acting like "nothing was brought to YOUR thread" because you didn't know about it or mention it. A little research about X-posed and SysScope should be done by anyone wanting to permanently get rid of the custom lock icon.
Not only did I mention that X-posed might not work for some, but I also mentioned a permanent modification to get rid of the custom icon instead of just covering it up with X-posed modules. Now how exactly did my paragraph have nothing to do with this topic?
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you win man. i'm not on xda to pump my chest and try to sound better than others. i'll leave that to you. i only shared what i found that worked. as i said you could have just moved on instead of starting an argument. but i'm not going to continue to give you attention with this. so anything you have to say from here on out i wont be able to see. have a good night.

Thread is closed at the request of the OP.
XDA appreciates all who share knowledge of things that work, and things that only work for some. With all the different devices and multitudes of "add-ons", what works for some people, might not work for others.
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[Q] Bought a seemingly rooted phone on Swappa and I'm concerned...

OK, I'm going to start by saying I know pretty much nothing about rooting and I may come across as a paranoid conspiracy nut, but here goes.
I recently bought a Note 3 on Swappa. In the description, the seller said that he had removed all of the AT&T Bloatware, but the phone was not rooted. He also stated that a system reset would restore the AT&T apps. Well, the first thing I did was a system restore, but the AT&T apps were still gone. Not that I care about the apps really, but it seemed weird.
Today, I downloaded the "Root Checker" app on the Play Store and it told me that my phone was, in fact, rooted. I also downloaded SuperU and it verified that as well. I've also gotten Titanium Backup (Root) and it shows I'm rooted.
I posted a message on my sale page at Swappa mentioning this, but the seller is adamantly denying that the phone is rooted. He says they use their "own process" to remove the bloatware.
My question in all of this is is this: Is this something I should be concerned about? The seller seems less than honest about the phone being rooted. He is a "trusted seller" which is one reason I bought from him, but I'm super paranoid that there might be something on my phone that I'm unaware of. (a keylogging app, etc...) Is there any way to tell this? How do I go about truly returning my phone back to its original state? I system reset didn't unroot it.
Any advice from people out there much more knowledgeable than me about this?
EDIT: well, I took andygev35's advice and restored back to factory. However, I enjoyed playing around with the things that being rooted allowed, so I re-did it. A huge waste of time? Maybe, but at least I have some peace of mind over the whole thing now. Thanks to everyone!

If you're worried about anything unsavory that may be hidden on your phone, you could always restore back to factory condition using the guide and files in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2838117
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andygev35 said:
If you're worried about anything unsavory that may be hidden on your phone, you could always restore back to factory condition using the guide and files in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2838117
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Thanks, and holy crap - just glancing at that it looks like a total pain in the ass. This is why I never bothered to root in the first place. Do you think I'm being too paranoid? Or is is worth doing all this?

It's actually quite simple. I know it may look overwhelming at first glance, but there's really nothing to it. Basically the easiest method is to use the all-in-one file. Just download that, put your phone in download mode, plug it into your computer, run the Odin program, place the all-in-one file in the AP slot in Odin and click start.
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andygev35 said:
It's actually quite simple. I know it may look overwhelming at first glance, but there's really nothing to it. Basically the easiest method is to use the all-in-one file. Just download that, put your phone in download mode, plug it into your computer, run the Odin program, place the all-in-one file in the AP slot in Odin and click start.
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OK. I may do this when I get home. Thanks.

Honestly though I do feel you're probably worrying over nothing.. But I'd go back to stock so you can obtain updates if you desire
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mrkhigh said:
Honestly though I do feel you're probably worrying over nothing.. But I'd go back to stock so you can obtain updates if you desire
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I agree it's probably nothing to worry about, but if he's anything like me, any doubt I have will always be there somewhere in the back of my mind nagging at me [emoji15]. Restoring wipes out any of that doubt.
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Don't Worry, Be Happy
Why wouldn't anyone want access to the root files in THEIR phone ???
You have root access to your PC or Mac, why would anyone want a provider to lock down their phone making things inaccessible.
You're not renting the phone, it's Yours (always try and have root access if possible).
google up moborobo and download it, its free and gives u full access to your phone, please download it and check it out -
You will love all the stuff you can do with a rooted N3 -

andygev35 said:
I agree it's probably nothing to worry about, but if he's anything like me, any doubt I have will always be there somewhere in the back of my mind nagging at me [emoji15]. Restoring wipes out any of that doubt.
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I guess what bugs me the most is that the seller INSISTS that it wasn't rooted, when it clearly is. Its a "methinks he doth protest too much" situation. If he just owned up to it, I'd be less paranoid. If he can't be honest about the obvious, it makes me worry about the less obvious.
I've learned a little, and I'm kind of digging some of the options available now that I know its rooted. Considering spending this Saturday to restoring it back to "normal" and then maybe re-rooting it to have some of the things that I now realize I kind of want. I'm kind of worried I'm going to funk it up though... Jailbreaking seemed to be a much easier process, and harder to screw up.

Since we now have nc2 Odin files you are relatively safe in doing a restore.
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ThePorter said:
I guess what bugs me the most is that the seller INSISTS that it wasn't rooted, when it clearly is. Its a "methinks he doth protest too much" situation. If he just owned up to it, I'd be less paranoid. If he can't be honest about the obvious, it makes me worry about the less obvious.
I've learned a little, and I'm kind of digging some of the options available now that I know its rooted. Considering spending this Saturday to restoring it back to "normal" and then maybe re-rooting it to have some of the things that I now realize I kind of want. I'm kind of worried I'm going to funk it up though... Jailbreaking seemed to be a much easier process, and harder to screw up.
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I too am a former Jailbreaker and am so glad I jumped the fence out of Apple's walled garden. I do have to say, at least Apple readily provides the latest firmware for their devices. I can't understand why AT&T won't let Sammy publish our Odin files. As @mrkhigh stated, we DO now have the Odin files (probably gained in some nefarious manner by a sympathizing Best Buy employee), so now you can safely let the experimenting begin without worry.
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I'm curious to find out if it is actually a clone... The HDC Galaxy Note 3 is a damn good clone of the real thing and it ships rooted. They are pretty cheap and can fool almost anyone... If it is a clone, he might have been selling it to make more than he spent and didn't know it's rooted.
If it's not, it is possible that he either bought it from someone else and didn't know that it is rooted, or it is a stolen device.
I would call AT&T and give them the IMEI number to check that. Do not mention root or anything like that, just ask them to check it to see if it's flagged.

graydiggy said:
I'm curious to find out if it is actually a clone... The HDC Galaxy Note 3 is a damn good clone of the real thing and it ships rooted. They are pretty cheap and can fool almost anyone... If it is a clone, he might have been selling it to make more than he spent and didn't know it's rooted.
If it's not, it is possible that he either bought it from someone else and didn't know that it is rooted, or it is a stolen device.
I would call AT&T and give them the IMEI number to check that. Do not mention root or anything like that, just ask them to check it to see if it's flagged.
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Pretty sure it's a real AT&T - I took it to the store and had them check the IMHO when I had it activated. I finally just uprooted and flashed the 4.4.2 stock on it (I'm learning the terminology here so hope that's right) from the first post.
The guy is a trusted seller and has sold tons of phones in Swappa. He advertises on all the Samsung at&t phones that he removes the bloatware but does NOT root the phone. But, it was.
In the end, I'm happy with the phone. Seller was less than honest about his process and hopefully he didn't steal all my bank info, haha, but the phone works great.

You have to root to remove all bloatware...
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Good to know though. *cheers*

Yeah, I asked him about that and he said they "have their own process to remove bloatware" that does not require root".
Like I said, he was a little squirrely about it.

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Yeah, I asked him about that and he said they "have their own process to remove bloatware" that does not require root".
Like I said, he was a little squirrely about it.
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Im sure its probably because he sells a lot of devices and didn't realize the one he sold had root.
Then when he talked to u he realized that u r uneducated about the subject so he thought he would bs u.
Of course one would have to have root access to remove root files.
I still don't understand why ur making such a big fuss?
If u don't feel like u lucked out, (like the rest of us do) just send the flipping thing back!
Did you download free moborobo?

Before he downloads that app... Excuse me... Complete PC suite.
Why do you think he needs it? I haven't seen anything on XDA about it, other than from you. And most everything I find on google/YouTube is Arabic, Chinese and Japanese.
It seems you are trying to advert it to new users that are unknowing and willing to take advice from most anyone.
I can give 2 things right now that are the same thing and one of them does not require a full PC suite.
Oh... And they are well known on XDA to be safe to use.

graydiggy said:
Before he downloads that app... Excuse me... Complete PC suite.
Why do you think he needs it? I haven't seen anything on XDA about it, other than from you. And most everything I find on google/YouTube is Arabic, Chinese and Japanese.
It seems you are trying to advert it to new users that are unknowing and willing to take advice from most anyone.
I can give 2 things right now that are the same thing and one of them does not require a full PC suite.
Oh... And they are well known on XDA to be safe to use.
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Yeah, you're right. I looked at it but it seems to be completely unnecessary.

Just a general reminder, use of unknown applications can be dangerous. Please use caution in downloading, using or recommending anything you don't know to be safe.

Stryke_the_Orc said:
Just a general reminder, use of unknown applications can be dangerous. Please use caution in downloading, using or recommending anything you don't know to be safe.
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Excuse me but this is not an unknown app, it has been around for years and works wonderfully !!!
I have been using it since I got my N3 at thanksgiving and it works great, installs downloaded apk files in a snap, allows you easy navigation to your entire phone.Doesn't spam you. It just works great. I'm only recommending it because I have USED it for 9 months, (and you guys can't even google it?)
Since when do mods and forum gurus recommend staying away from something they have never used it, or even spent 10 secs researching ????
https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=moborobo+review
I was only trying to help OP out. it is a great and FREE app for rooted devices, sorry for wasting ur time OP -
(ps - I found the software while trying to transfer my contacts and sms messages from my 4s to N3, which worked perfectly and easily, (after trying other stuff). It was after that I discovered how nice it manages everything)

Not giving choice of "Just Once" and "Always"

As the title said, the phone doesn't give me the choice of always or just once, there's only a menu and I can click the app that automatically becomes the "default" app... It sucks as I need to save a pdf from Outlook to One Drive to then open it in write pdf but it won't since one drive is the default app and I don't get the choice...
How do I fix that??

Experiencing the same.. Any fix? And the menu button [(long-press) back button] sometimes doesn't work well.

IMHERETOSTAY said:
As the title said, the phone doesn't give me the choice of always or just once, there's only a menu and I can click the app that automatically becomes the "default" app... It sucks as I need to save a pdf from Outlook to One Drive to then open it in write pdf but it won't since one drive is the default app and I don't get the choice...
How do I fix that??
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I may be wrong here, but this may be a feature of Lolipop. In other words, we're not given the choice each time like its previous iterations...

IMHERETOSTAY said:
the default app and I don't get the choice...
How do I fix that??
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I don't think you can "fix" it but you can undo the default by going to settings then applications then going into default applications and clearing that apps default.

I hate this "feature" depending on what I am doing I always want to use different apps to open files. Come on Samsung (or Google) fix this. I think it is Samsung as I had a G4 and had the option on my G4

Kinda fixed it by using Better Open With from the play store...
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XooLoo said:
I may be wrong here, but this may be a feature of Lolipop. In other words, we're not given the choice each time like its previous iterations...
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On the S6 it gives you a option so it's not a lollipop issue, it's just the Note 5
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Thank you for the tip on Better Open With app.

Lancerz said:
On the S6 it gives you a option so it's not a lollipop issue, it's just the Note 5
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I got the 5.1.1 s6 edge update just this morning and it didnt give me a choice, just chose a permanent option just like on note 5 that i got this afternoon. You can always reset defaults, but once you open a link in an app with a specific app, dont you want to keep that choice for the future? I don't mind the change

This is frustrating! I'm going to check out that app. I'm commenting to be a part of this thread for future fixes.

The problem in note 5 . I have note 4 with lollipop 5.1.1 and has no problem
I hate the disappearance of (just once and always) option that i used frequently, hope to fix it in next update

You can go into default apps and clear it. Then choose your app when you open that file. Or, use ES File Explorer to open as. There's no problem with the phone. There cut out unnecessary crap, which I think is better. That screen would always come up and piss people off. Haha.

dr_witty2007 said:
The problem in note 5 . I have note 4 with lollipop 5.1.1 and has no problem
I hate the disappearance of (just once and always) option that i used frequently, hope to fix it in next update
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Yeah, this annoyed me too. Certain things you want options for. Like wallpapers, ringtones, ECT. Someone in another thread mentioned "better open with" app. Works well
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Samsung it's so wrong!
IMHERETOSTAY said:
As the title said, the phone doesn't give me the choice of always or just once, there's only a menu and I can click the app that automatically becomes the "default" app... It sucks as I need to save a pdf from Outlook to One Drive to then open it in write pdf but it won't since one drive is the default app and I don't get the choice...
How do I fix that??
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There's no fix for this, at least for now, I talked with Samsung Customer support they did like that to "please their customers" (I don't understand); it's not a lollipop issue, other models like core prime and others with 5.1.1 still ask always or just once, it's really frustrating, but even more frustrating is to find people out there that is happy with this change, ''unnecessary crap'' they call it, since they do not know how to use their phones looks like they want everybody else to suffer, it's so simple if you do not like it! just click ALWAYS and leave the rest of the people that use their phones for more than just calls, chat and listen to music to keep using our amazing JUST ONCE and let us be happy!!!!, what else we will have to take from Samsung?
NO SD CARD SWAP
NO WATER PROOF
NO BATTERY SWAP
COPYCAT DESIGN
EAR PHONES PLUG AT THE BOTTOM
AND NOW THEY TOOK OUR OPTION TO CHOOSE!!!!
this company it's going backwards or what?

this happened on my note 4 as well with 5.1.1.
the change was completely unnecessary, as people could just click "always" if they wanted. why remove the option?
but for those of us who open diff links in diff apps depending on the context. we are screwed?
has anyone found a fix?

Don't be selfish
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Lambetts said:
You can go into default apps and clear it. Then choose your app when you open that file. Or, use ES File Explorer to open as. There's no problem with the phone. There cut out unnecessary crap, which I think is better. That screen would always come up and piss people off. Haha.
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Don't call unnecessary crap to such a smart option just because you only use your cellphone just for chat and Facebook navigation, it's very simple, it's just two options and by simply clicking ALWAYS!!! you can be happy! and leave the rest of us, those who really use our cellphones as smart devices enjoy our freedom to CHOSE!!! and let us be happy with our choice that we miss so much ''JUST ONCE''.

Zedx78 said:
There's no fix for this, at least for now, I talked with Samsung Customer support they did like that to "please their customers" (I don't understand); it's not a lollipop issue, other models like core prime and others with 5.1.1 still ask always or just once, it's really frustrating, but even more frustrating is to find people out there that is happy with this change, ''unnecessary crap'' they call it, since they do not know how to use their phones looks like they want everybody else to suffer, it's so simple if you do not like it! just click ALWAYS and leave the rest of the people that use their phones for more than just calls, chat and listen to music to keep using our amazing JUST ONCE and let us be happy!!!!, what else we will have to take from Samsung?
NO SD CARD SWAP
NO WATER PROOF
NO BATTERY SWAP
COPYCAT DESIGN
EAR PHONES PLUG AT THE BOTTOM
AND NOW THEY TOOK OUR OPTION TO CHOOSE!!!!
this company it's going backwards or what?
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If you hate the phone so much, why did you buy it? Relax man, it is what it is. You yelling here isn't going to change anything.

Exactly... Sell it on swappa and move on if you hate it so much...
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Open to real solutions
Lambetts said:
You can go into default apps and clear it. Then choose your app when you open that file. Or, use ES File Explorer to open as. There's no problem with the phone. There cut out unnecessary crap, which I think is better. That screen would always come up and piss people off. Haha.
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JasonJoel said:
Exactly... Sell it on swappa and move on if you hate it so much...
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You shouldn't give useless advises, I would if I could, first I have to wait up to 6 months for another swap and second I can't sell it for the price that I paid for the phone which it's dropping very quickly.
Luckily it's not all over and this app will fill the emptiness in the heart of those who miss the liberty of CHOOSING, the app "Better Open With" will make your life easier, it worked for me and don't ask for any information.

IMHERETOSTAY said:
Kinda fixed it by using Better Open With from the play store...
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Thanks for this app. Just noticed this same issue on my S7 and sometimes I use different browsers for search. So having to go in and clear out the default each time wouldnt have been cool. I like how the app has a countdown and pause as well. Great suggestion.