Sony Xperia Z3+ E6533 Camera Super Auto or Manual 20.7MP which shoots best? - Xperia Z4/Z3+ Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi,
I am curious to know if anyone has tried comparison between superior auto and manual 20.7MP
Superior auto takes 8MP photos only using 20.7MP sensor...so which is best way to get best quality resolution and maximum size of photos?
Please share your thoughts and ideas.

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asking said:
Hi,
I am curious to know if anyone has tried comparison between superior auto and manual 20.7MP
Superior auto takes 8MP photos only using 20.7MP sensor...so which is best way to get best quality resolution and maximum size of photos?
Please share your thoughts and ideas.
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the number of MegaPixel is not that important for quality of pictures
the image saving process is more important about it
and Auto Mode suppose to set best setting for scenes But sometimes setting manually is better
i always prefer manual mode
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in 20.7 mode the ISO 12800 will be gone... Don't forget this dude

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[Q] Can I assign a different camera app to the physical camera button?

As the title states, I'm wondering if I can assign the Google camera app to the physical camera button on my Xperia Z3C.
I find the stock camera app is very poor at keeping focus and takes sub-par images when compared to other camera apps available on Google Play.
Also, anyone have any tips for taking better pictures with the Z3C? I'm finding that despite the camera's high number of pixels, it's not the best for taking pictures, even when compared to my old iPhone 4!
Any help would be much appreciated.
Thanks!
AS far as I know, it is possible only when you are rooted. Since rooting (with unlocking bootloader) affects the camera quality, which you want to change, i'd go for it.
I am using Camera FV-5 for taking pictures and that is much better than the auto/manual mode on the stock camera and Lapse-it Pro for Timelapse videos.
Anyway, the biggest improvement should be seen, when Android 5.0+ is released with RAW DNG (and Long Exposure), and then we will see the advantage of a 20MP sensor - but probably only with a different camera app than the stock one
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conzar2 said:
As the title states, I'm wondering if I can assign the Google camera app to the physical camera button on my Xperia Z3C.
I find the stock camera app is very poor at keeping focus and takes sub-par images when compared to other camera apps available on Google Play.
Also, anyone have any tips for taking better pictures with the Z3C? I'm finding that despite the camera's high number of pixels, it's not the best for taking pictures, even when compared to my old iPhone 4!
Any help would be much appreciated.
Thanks!
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Test ur Camera with this app
CameraW
this app will capture the exact view that ur phone lens can detect (without any effect or compressions)
if u get better pic by this app then thr s problem in software if not you check the lens itself
try it and inform me about results
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[Q] What are the "recommended" manual settings for the camera?

What are the "general recommended settings" for the manual camera settings for photos and videos? I have extremely limited knowledge of the technical terms of photography as I always leave my cameras on auto when taking pictures/videos.
My recommendation is to try Camera FV-5 and play with the settings, because the settings vary a lot. You can't use one setting for every shot.
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Better camera app to make better photos and especially better video stabilization?

Hi,
on my oneplus x i used the "Open Camera" app to make noticable better pictures.
Anyone found a camera app which makes better pictures especially better software video stabilization would be great.
Why does the P9 need it.
Camera is great except for stabilization in video.
No big deal
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This - the camera app is amazing.
Sure the video isn't great, but it's worth checking that you have video stabilisation turned on. I had to go into the app and turn it on, it fixed a bunch of issues for me!
Since the phone utilizes dual camera setup, i doubt that there is 3rd party app that can make use of both sensors at the moment.
This what...? Can't see any useful information or links....
I've tried almost all and the native camera app is the best and the fastest. For video, indeed you need to turn on stabilization in the settings.
The only app that comes close for me is Snap Camera HDR. It's the only one that gives the same results in low light (auto low light mode on) and it actually gives you more control over HDR shots. The HDR shots are actually a bit better in this app. Only thing is the shutter is a bit slower, because it auto-focuses when you hit the shutter button.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.hvt.horizon
Sorry do not found such setting where do i turn the video stabilization on can you share a screenshot, please?
ahh found it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-6o_erfmoA

Best camera app & settings?

I'm curious as to what your favorite app and settings you use for your 3T. I'm a OnePlus n00b and have been using the stock app along with Cameringo+ with good results but ideas are always welcomed. I'd do a poll but the options are endless.
Stock camera app and ProShot with noise reduction disabled. That's all you need.
Mr Patchy Patch said:
Stock camera app and ProShot with noise reduction disabled. That's all you need.
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Thanks but I don't see Pro Shot or Noise Reduction in the stock app. Where do I find those? I checked both Settings options.
Unless you mean Manual mode and leave everything else on Auto.
HDRa is Auto HDR, HQ is best for low light. In camera when you see video, camera etc click the cog and you can select RAW. You won't see these in your gallery but using lightroom or snapspeed (it's free) you can open a picture from gallery and it will pick up on the raw photo. These look awful to begin with as they are not processed at all and are 50mb+ but one you develop them yourself to your desired look you get some quality photos from them.
LMcR92 said:
HDRa is Auto HDR, HQ is best for low light. In camera when you see video, camera etc click the cog and you can select RAW. You won't see these in your gallery but using lightroom or snapspeed (it's free) you can open a picture from gallery and it will pick up on the raw photo. These look awful to begin with as they are not processed at all and are 50mb+ but one you develop them yourself to your desired look you get some quality photos from them.
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I thank you for your reply and I'm aware of the RAW format and Snapseed/Photoshop/etc. I'm more interested in the settings for most everyday use of the camera on the OnePlus 3T.
I've been having good results with CameraMX
Disgustip8ed said:
I thank you for your reply and I'm aware of the RAW format and Snapseed/Photoshop/etc. I'm more interested in the settings for most everyday use of the camera on the OnePlus 3T.
I've been having good results with CameraMX
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I have been trying open camera from time to time. It allows you to enable the camera 2api and takes some great pictures. I find the flash on stock flawed at times as if the shutter speeds is off point to the flash and this overcomes that problem.
I'm not a big selfie fan or photo gay. But in my Samsung S6 I'm using stock camera application with few addons + Candy Selfie for taking selfies when I need.
Can anyone help me with the video settings.
In 1080p OIS does not seem to work at all
1080p / 60fps it does work
I cannot find any settings to alter this. Thanks.

Question 108MP works only with ISO <= 100 (and even then not always)

I found out that 108 MP mode only works with ISO <=100 on the Redmi note 10 pro.
Attached are crops from 108MP with ISO 100, 108 and 125. It is clear that after SO 100 the quality drops significantly. I shot the photo in 12MP as well and upscaled the photo in the PC. The resulting picture corresponded to the 108 and 125 ISO.
It would be nice to shoot 108MP at least up to ISO 400 or 800.
Moreover it seems that sometimes the 108MP is fake even though the iso is below 100. I did not find the cause of that yet.
Finally, the 108MP photos often have a green cast. It would be nice if that could be fixed as well.
The ISO_100_cr photo has a lot higher quality than ISO_125_cr and s_1_400_cr photos.
The ISO_100_a and ISO_100_b are taken about 3 minutes appart using the same settings and the same lightning conditions. However one of them uses the fake 108MP. I have no explanation for that so far.
I reported the bug using the Xiaomi Services & feedback. So far I did not get a reply.
xseryd said:
I found out that 108 MP mode only works with ISO <=100 on the Redmi note 10 pro.
Attached are crops from 108MP with ISO 100, 108 and 125. It is clear that after SO 100 the quality drops significantly. I shot the photo in 12MP as well and upscaled the photo in the PC. The resulting picture corresponded to the 108 and 125 ISO.
It would be nice to shoot 108MP at least up to ISO 400 or 800.
Moreover it seems that sometimes the 108MP is fake even though the iso is below 100. I did not find the cause of that yet.
Finally, the 108MP photos often have a green cast. It would be nice if that could be fixed as well.
The ISO_100_cr photo has a lot higher quality than ISO_125_cr and s_1_400_cr photos.
The ISO_100_a and ISO_100_b are taken about 3 minutes appart using the same settings and the same lightning conditions. However one of them uses the fake 108MP. I have no explanation for that so far.
I reported the bug using the Xiaomi Services & feedback. So far I did not get a reply.
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Use pro mode. Its there.
In all of the photos above I used the pro mode. Otherwise I would not be able to set ISO manually. However the issue is in both normal and pro mode.
The phone acts like using 108MP, but in some cases it indeed used 108MP, in other it just upscales the 12MP photo.
Try clearing system cache and cam data.
Try rolling cam back to factory load if it's been updated.
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Try clearing system cache and cam data.
Try rolling cam back to factory load if it's been updated.
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I do not think the cam itself got updated, just the system to 12.0.10 MIUI Global. I cleared all the caches and the issue persists. Using pro mode 108MP with fixed ISO 100 and 125 there is a huge drop in quality in the 125 ISO.
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I do not think the cam itself got updated, just the system to 12.0.10 MIUI Global. I cleared all the caches and the issue persists. Using pro mode 108MP with fixed ISO 100 and 125 there is a huge drop in quality in the 125 ISO.
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What about using it in ISO 200?
The drop in image Q is very small or should be.
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What about using it in ISO 200?
The drop in image Q is very small or should be.
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The pictures look almost the same for ISO 50-100. Then there is a sharp drop in quality and than the pictures are almost the same for ISO 125-500. ISO 1000 is noticeably softer, but that is to be expected.
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The pictures look almost the same for ISO 50-100. Then there is a sharp drop in quality and than the pictures are almost the same for ISO 125-500. ISO 1000 is noticeably softer, but that is to be expected.
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If it's native ISO is 100, don't drop below that unless the ambient light is too bright.
Use at it's native ISO # or higher whenever possible. Its native ISO is probably 100 but never assume...
blackhawk said:
If it's native ISO is 100, don't drop below that unless the ambient light is too bright.
Use at it's native ISO # or higher whenever possible. Its native ISO is probably 100 but never assume...
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The automatic mode tries to use ISO 50 if there is enough light, so I guess that is the native ISO. However that does not solve the issue that for ISO > 100 the photo looks suspiciously similar to what I get when I shoot 12 MP and upscale the picture in the pc. And unfortunately even for <=100 it is not guaranteed to shoot the true 108 MP.
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The automatic mode tries to use ISO 50 if there is enough light, so I guess that is the native ISO. However that does not solve the issue that for ISO > 100 the photo looks suspiciously similar to what I get when I shoot 12 MP and upscale the picture in the pc. And unfortunately even for <=100 it is not guaranteed to shoot the true 108 MP.
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You need to see what its native ISO is speced at to know.
Poor focus* and cam shake can be factors.
The 108 MP file size should be significantly larger than the 12 MP one.
*the wrong AF lock on point can trash images taken with a fast lense; the focal range is quit narrow at close range. Try some shots at 50 feet out.
All the photos mentioned above are at least 50 feet away and all have shutter time 1/300 or faster, so shake should not be an issue. The two last photos with the cherry tree even have ~1/1700s time and the issue is still visible.
Finally the picture size of the real 108MP files is 23-25MB, whereas the picture size of the faked ones is 14-18MB. Even there there seems to be something wrong.
xseryd said:
All the photos mentioned above are at least 50 feet away and all have shutter time 1/300 or faster, so shake should not be an issue. The two last photos with the cherry tree even have ~1/1700s time and the issue is still visible.
Finally the picture size of the real 108MP files is 23-25MB, whereas the picture size of the faked ones is 14-18MB. Even there there seems to be something wrong.
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Size of the file varies by the content, sometimes drastically. It still could be an AF issue, try manual focus if you have that option.
Cam shake can happen at almost any shutter setting; brace the cam on something solid.
Because there is no weight to the phone compared to 2-7 pounds of a pro- cam means little inertia to over come and no good handholds... cam shake is more an issue.
You can get cam shake at 1/1000 @Sec with a pro cam if your technique is sloppy.
Review the cam settings carefully and double check them.
I don't know, you could be right. It seems like it be a poor business plan though. It may be an inadvertent flaw on that production run and/or the firmware for it.
blackhawk said:
Size of the file varies by the content, sometimes drastically. It still could be an AF issue, try manual focus if you have that option.
Cam shake can happen at almost any shutter setting; brace the cam on something solid.
Because there is no weight to the phone compared to 2-7 pounds of a pro- cam means little inertia to over come and no good handholds... cam shake is more an issue.
You can get cam shake at 1/1000 @Sec with a pro cam if your technique is sloppy.
Review the cam settings carefully and double check them.
I don't know, you could be right. It seems like it be a poor business plan though. It may be an inadvertent flaw on that production run and/or the firmware for it.
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Just to be sure I did the test again using a tripod and a self timer. Still the same results. I could not use the manual focus mode, because the "infinity" seems to be only a few feet and my objects came out blurry.
The file difference was on the same scene, taken 10s apart. 24MB real 108MB, 14MB faked 108MB.
I have taken several photos in 108 in low light and the behavior of the Iso is correct.
It always maintains 108 and the Iso obtained go from 581 to 12800, I suppose it can go up a little more.
Logically, the higher the iso, the lower the quality and more with such small objectives.
I am very happy with the camera results and I come from a Pixel 2.
Well for one thing use solid objects that aren't able to be moved by the wind as subjects preferably with the light source in back of you rather than in back of the subject.
A wrought iron fence maybe.
24 mp is actually a lot. It's not just the pixel count but also the quality, grey depth, color accuracy that the individual pixel can capture.
blackhawk said:
Well for one thing use solid objects that aren't able to be moved by the wind as subjects preferably with the light source in back of you rather than in back of the subject.
A wrought iron fence maybe.
24 mp is actually a lot. It's not just the pixel count but also the quality, grey depth, color accuracy that the individual pixel can capture.
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I selected branches because there the difference was the most obvious. There was no wind at all. I attach different part of the picture with a solid object.
jmfb55 said:
I have taken several photos in 108 in low light and the behavior of the Iso is correct.
It always maintains 108 and the Iso obtained go from 581 to 12800, I suppose it can go up a little more.
Logically, the higher the iso, the lower the quality and more with such small objectives.
I am very happy with the camera results and I come from a Pixel 2.
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The camera reports all of the 108MP photos to be 108MP. However I believe that sometimes the picture was taken using 12MP and then just upscaled to 108MP using a software.
Good obsevation. I can't get my phone to make 20+mb pictures. I tried with your setting so: 108MP & iso 50 but no luck. Photos still come out between 14-17mb.
FakedAce said:
Good obsevation. I can't get my phone to make 20+mb pictures. I tried with your setting so: 108MP & iso 50 but no luck. Photos still come out between 14-17mb.
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Sometimes I get the fake 108MP even with small ISO. I don't understand that. Or maybe your scene is not that complex and the file is smaller even though it is the real 108MP. Try using ISO 125 if you see a size and quality difference. You can also try shooting 12MP and upscaling the picture in PC to see if it is the same as what you shot in 108MP.
FakedAce said:
Good obsevation. I can't get my phone to make 20+mb pictures. I tried with your setting so: 108MP & iso 50 but no luck. Photos still come out between 14-17mb.
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MP=megapixels
MB=megabytes
The correlation between file size and the number of megapixels is a not strictly a ratiometric one.
Without the manufacturer's white papers it's hard to know exactly how they are processing the image. Companies like Canon and Denon usually exceed their specifications, and often share detailed information beyond just the specs.
♤Does the cam allow you to shoot in RAW mode?
Try that if so. That should give a more revealing look at what's going on. RAW's have the least post processing and contain much more of the image data.

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