I've read concerns about unlocking the bootloader on the 815 variant potentially voiding warranty. I think it was Autoprime but I remember one of the devs in the Simple Root thread saying the T-Mobile BL isn't locked or unlocked once rooted... basically it is open for lack of a better term. Can one interpret that as meaning we have the benefit of an unlocked BL without the warranty concerns? Does that mean we can go back to stock and they'd never knowing the phone was rooted provided the T-Mobile app asking for root was disabled prior to actually rooting? I've searched quite a bit but not seen a definitive answer specifically for the 811h variant. Thanks in advance.
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There is no way to lock or unlock the bootloader on the H811. It's a "special" or "odd" bootloader in that it is only ever open. Since it cannot be unlocked, there is no downside to your phone being in its normal state, however odd its normal state might be.
As far as root goes, T-Mobile is using it as an excuse to say "well you shouldn't have rooted" when you're having software issues, so they can tell you to factory reset instead of troubleshooting. If your phone dies or something, they would have to prove that root was the cause in order to deny a warranty claim. Considering how much T-Mobile is enjoying being the favorite carrier in the spotlight, I doubt they would risk a media storm by telling you that you're warranty is void and they won't repair something unless you did something dumb and root access was the cause. It's more of a safety net for them than something they are going to pursue. Either way, freezing/removing the T-Mobile app and denying SU is a great thing to do.
I went ahead and did it. Super easy process. Thanks for the advice!
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There is no way to lock or unlock the bootloader on the H811. It's a "special" or "odd" bootloader in that it is only ever open. Since it cannot be unlocked, there is no downside to your phone being in its normal state, however odd its normal state might be.
As far as root goes, T-Mobile is using it as an excuse to say "well you shouldn't have rooted" when you're having software issues, so they can tell you to factory reset instead of troubleshooting. If your phone dies or something, they would have to prove that root was the cause in order to deny a warranty claim. Considering how much T-Mobile is enjoying being the favorite carrier in the spotlight, I doubt they would risk a media storm by telling you that you're warranty is void and they won't repair something unless you did something dumb and root access was the cause. It's more of a safety net for them than something they are going to pursue. Either way, freezing/removing the T-Mobile app and denying SU is a great thing to do.
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Pro tip for everyone reading you can just call them and play dumb like you don't know what happened, you just woke up and turned it on like that and they will warranty it no problem, and, In fact there is a very real possibility that if you are on XDA you may e more tech savvy than the person you are talking too.
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I've never used an LG phone besides my nexus5, but if the bootloader is unlocked. Then why can't we just flash twrp through adb and then flash superSU?
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I've never used an LG phone besides my nexus5, but if the bootloader is unlocked. Then why can't we just flash twrp through adb and then flash superSU?
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The T-Mobile bootloader cannot be unlocked, nor can it be locked. It is special. We are able to disable security, but we are not able to unlock the bootloader like the European model. Basically, this is the best it's going to get unless there's a bootloader update that fixes this. If that happens, we would then need to be allowed to unlock the bootloader through LG in order to get fastboot actions.
If you've ever used an HTC device, think of it as S-Off without BL unlock. It's weird, but it works.
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Hi everyone, first post, go easy on me
Anyway, I picked one of these up at the weekend and I'm very happy with it, but I'd like to try the new roms that are starting to appear. Unfortunately, I'm not able to unlock my bootloader (Bootloader unlock allowed: No). This is on Three UK.
Is there ever likely to be a workaround for this?
I'm gutted
I have the same thing on mine (T-mobile Croatia), I reckon it's a network carrier lock.
But if I have faith in something, then it's in XDA, the place where people turn "you can't do that" into "you can, it's just that no one found a way for it YET"
Let us be patient and see what will happen.
mine is the same
Bootloader unlock allowed: No.
Same here on O2 UK. I've just arranged sending the XZ back to O2, with this being one of the major factors that made me decide to wait for the S4. Shame.
JJ
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mine is the same
Bootloader unlock allowed: No.
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That means one thing no fun with xperia z on xda-developers at least for now :crying:
GOOD LUCK
Bootloader unlock allowed: No.
Orange Poland.
I can't root my device
That's why I got my phone from a third party (CPW/P4U/etc) they nearly always supply generic handsets that are unlocked and bloat free.
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That's why I got my phone from a third party (CPW/P4U/etc) they nearly always supply generic handsets that are unlocked and bloat free.
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Yup. Always purchase unlocked devices. NEVER count on a manufacturer's locking mechanisms being broken, nor on the lock mechanism returning somehow. (Qualcomm's secure boot infrastructure is quite strong, so it's rare for it to be compromised unless the OEM handset manufacturer screws up. Since the T's locking was never defeated, I wouldn't hold much hope for the Z.)
Vote with your wallet - don't buy a device unless it's unlocked. If you buy a locked-down device and rely on "unsupported" locking mechanisms, you are implicitly saying that you are OK with locked-down devices.
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AW: Bootloader unlock allowed: No.
Branded and/or sim locked Sonys are usually not unlockable. This is documented well enough.
As Entropy said, either buy generic devices from the open market which come slim and neat to begin with or go with an operator which doesn't sim lock or brand devices sold by it.
I can recommend mine, sells devices subsidized if you wish yet still unlockable and the only branding to be found are a different SI than "generic", so I only suffer from delayed updates and nothing else
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Yup. Always purchase unlocked devices. NEVER count on a manufacturer's locking mechanisms being broken, nor on the lock mechanism returning somehow. (Qualcomm's secure boot infrastructure is quite strong, so it's rare for it to be compromised unless the OEM handset manufacturer screws up. Since the T's locking was never defeated, I wouldn't hold much hope for the Z.)
Vote with your wallet - don't buy a device unless it's unlocked. If you buy a locked-down device and rely on "unsupported" locking mechanisms, you are implicitly saying that you are OK with locked-down devices.
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I bought a outright supposedly unlocked Xperia TX for a Sony Central store in Sydney then only to find out it was actually vodafone stock with a locked bootloader.
Hi, can some one help me out here.
I have a XZ which has unlockable bootloader. I have unlocked it and rooted and installed recovery kernal and Xperia Z Revolution rom. All ok.
Now, was just seeing if I ever needed to send phone off for repairs.
So downloaded the lastest flashtool and was successful enough to restore back to the 10.1.A.1.350 Original Sony Unbranded UK Rom.
With flashtool you can now lock the bootloader, so I went ahead and did this but now when checking the bootloader status, it says "Rooting Status: Unknown" and when entering my unlock code in CMD "Failed <remote: Command did not succeed>
How do I fix this so I can unlock the bootloader again?
I don't think your locked. You probably are still unlocked as we cannot relock bootloader yet
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I don't think your locked. You probably are still unlocked as we cannot relock bootloader yet
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Androxyde says we can?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=38912420&postcount=29
That's why I tried to lock bootloader after reading that.
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Androxyde says we can?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=38912420&postcount=29
That's why I tried to lock bootloader after reading that.
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Aaah. I misread your post. Have u tried unlocking through flashtool
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xl VipeR lx said:
Aaah. I misread your post. Have u tried unlocking through flashtool
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Yeah, get the same error as in cmd.
Contact the dev. They might know more
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Yes I will do, just need to get my post count over 10 before I can post in the development threads.
Don't want to bother people with PM's either.
Let me know how it goes. I was thinking of unlocking and relocking. Out of curiosity. Is your bravia engine working now that you relocked
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Hi all.
First of all let me explain myself, I am a noob but not a total idiot so I am where I am through rational consideration.
I have renewed my contract on three UK, which has just expired. The number one consideration for me is that I have full, unlimited access to the internet with tethering and the only option for this in the UK is on three, on the contract I was already on. Three have an excellent 3g network and are in the process of giving DC-HSPA access and will get LTE-4g before the end of the year. I am guaranteed to automatically get the higher speeds when they are available, still with unlimited tethering at no extra cost. No other tariff can give me all that in the UK. There are sim-only options but they are all short term and do not guarantee me the unlimited tethering I require into the future, and there is a good chance the cost of these tariffs will increase when 4g is rolled out. In short the only option was to renew my contract.
So, I have renewed my contract and got the XZ. The XZ was the only option really after seeing all the developers struggle with Samsung phones and with all the developer friendly support promised by Sony. Whatever I did with my contract I wanted the XZ and I love it.
I knew when I signed the contract that I was taking a gamble on the locked bootloader, but the best option for me was to renew my contract and if the bootloader is locked sell the phone and use the money to partially fund the buying of a bootloader unlockable XZ. I knew that I would probably have to do this and was ready for it when I got the contract. Anyway the bootloader is unlock:no, so I will be carrying out my plan and this XZ will get sold to fund the purchase of an XZ with unlockable bootloader. I am OK with all that and if I sell the XZ for even half it's current value I won't care and will have still made the most financially sensible choice. I will have to buy a phone off contract, but I will still have the tariff I want. If the phone I have had come with an unlockable bootloader I would have been a couple of hundred quid better off, but I had to have a phone on the contract anyway so whatever phone I got would have had to go to get an unlocked XZ. Even if there was a tariff which gave the same allowances I would have had to pay for the handset anyway, and it would have ended up costing more than it is anyway. There is no such tariff anyway and I have made the sensible choice and am happy.
Now on to my question. Obviously I am working up to selling this phone, and figure it will be easier to sell sim-unlocked. Fortunately I live in the UK and network providers are obliged to allow you to unlock your sim. On three I have to wait thirty days and then they will unlock the sim for me. I have decided that the thirty days older the phone is will be offset by it being unlocked and being easier to sell. I am not in a rush to flash roms yet so I get the phone for a while and sell it for the least effort, hopefully when CM is pretty well ready for the phone.
Anyway, all is well and good and I am content.
However there is one possibility I have only recently considered. I am aware that sim-unlocking is a completely different thing than having bootloader unlockable:yes. But I was curious to know if a byproduct of getting the Sim officially unlocked by Three would be a change to the bootloader unlocking status. I don't know enough about how all this works, and as I say, I understand there is a difference between getting the sim-unlocked and the bootloader thing. But might the bootloader lock be somehow dependant on the sim-unlock status. ????
I only ask this out of curiosity.
I will find out for myself soon enough as I will be getting the sim unlocked ready to sell anyway. It will save me a bit of money and a bit of hassle if the bootloader becomes unlockable and I won't have to part with a phone I have become attached to and know is a good one, it doesn't have any of the issues some people seem to be having with their XZ's.
Either way in a couple of weeks I will have an XZ with an unlockable bootloader as CM has become a must for me.
I'm waiting for my Sprint Moto X to arrive next week. I've gleaned that my rooting options appear to boil down to either a) "officially" unlocking the bootloader through Moto (and voiding warranty) or b) using SlapMyMoto to root (which also voids the warranty, but presumably Moto won't know and theoretically leaves me the option of trying to return to stock if I need to).
I'm wondering if folks would comment on why they opted for one choice over the other (and obviously, correct any misconceptions I have. Never needed to use the warranty on a smartphone, but obviously there can always be a first time.)
Thanks.
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I'm waiting for my Sprint Moto X to arrive next week. I've gleaned that my rooting options appear to boil down to either a) "officially" unlocking the bootloader through Moto (and voiding warranty) or b) using SlapMyMoto to root (which also voids the warranty, but presumably Moto won't know and theoretically leaves me the option of trying to return to stock if I need to).
I'm wondering if folks would comment on why they opted for one choice over the other (and obviously, correct any misconceptions I have. Never needed to use the warranty on a smartphone, but obviously there can always be a first time.)
Thanks.
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It's old news that Motorola is no longer voiding the warranty for unlocking the bootloader of Developer Edition X's. If you don't have a dev edition then slapmymoto is your only choice.
Its easier to work with an X that has an unlocked boot loader. Easier to root and have R/W abilities with unlocked bootloader.
You just have to ask... do I feel lucky? And decide "will I need my warranty?"
KidJoe said:
Its easier to work with an X that has an unlocked boot loader. Easier to root and have R/W abilities with unlocked bootloader.
You just have to ask... do I feel lucky? And decide "will I need my warranty?"
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meh... the desk jockey at the sprint store is unlikely to know anything about bootloaders or rooting. And chances are if you get to the point where you need to exercise your warranty (i.e. Bricked or other wise) then they will take a look at the phone and see it doesn't boot and give you a new one. They don't have time to give post mortems to every phone that is returned.. they can simply send them back to get refurbished in bulk.
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meh... the desk jockey at the sprint store is unlikely to know anything about bootloaders or rooting. And chances are if you get to the point where you need to exercise your warranty (i.e. Bricked or other wise) then they will take a look at the phone and see it doesn't boot and give you a new one. They don't have time to give post mortems to every phone that is returned.. they can simply send them back to get refurbished in bulk.
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While I know that, and you know that, it doesn't change the fact of what its stated on Moto's web site when you request the code to unlock your bootloader.. that your warranty is voided. It also doesn't mean that Sprint, or other carriers, wont do "postmortums" on devices they receive at their repair center and try and bill someone if they discover the bootloader was unlocked. At the same respect, since you need to enter info into Moto's web site about your phone to get the unlock code (where you acknowledge your warranty is now voided), wouldn't it be interesting if Moto decideds to start feeding back IMEI, serial numbers, etc of these devices to the carriers?
Call me paranoid.. Crazy, or whatever. Knowing what Moto says the policy is, and being aware of it, is important.
Will the carrier follow through, can they follow through, etc.. has been discussed many times over in the past, so i don't want to start again now.
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It's old news that Motorola is no longer voiding the warranty for unlocking the bootloader of Developer Edition X's. If you don't have a dev edition then slapmymoto is your only choice.
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All due respect, I believe your statements are not applicable or wrong.
1) This is the Sprint Moto X, not the Developer Edition
2) You can unlock the bootloader through the Moto web site, but in doing so void the warranty.
KidJoe said:
Its easier to work with an X that has an unlocked boot loader. Easier to root and have R/W abilities with unlocked bootloader.
You just have to ask... do I feel lucky? And decide "will I need my warranty?"
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Yeah, that's the overall message I've been getting. Was just attempting to get a (obviously unscientific) sense of which option most people were choosing.
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meh... the desk jockey at the sprint store is unlikely to know anything about bootloaders or rooting. And chances are if you get to the point where you need to exercise your warranty (i.e. Bricked or other wise) then they will take a look at the phone and see it doesn't boot and give you a new one. They don't have time to give post mortems to every phone that is returned.. they can simply send them back to get refurbished in bulk.
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I hadn't considered that telling Moto doesn't necessarily mean that Sprint will automatically find out. Hmmm.
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Call me paranoid.. Crazy, or whatever. Knowing what Moto says the policy is, and being aware of it, is important.
Will the carrier follow through, can they follow through, etc.. has been discussed many times over in the past, so i don't want to start again now.
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I suspect I'll probably unlock the bootloader. I've never, ever needed my smartphone warranty before. So of course, this means some disaster likely awaits.
Unlock bootloader. Much less of a hassle and more of a benefit.
I would also like to root my phone, and don't want to void the warrantee. And for practical purposes, Sprint didn't deal with moto-maker phones, they tell you to take your phone to Motorola.
So I don't want to unlock the boot-loader at this time. Maybe after the warrantee expires.
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I would also like to root my phone, and don't want to void the warrantee. And for practical purposes, Sprint didn't deal with moto-maker phones, they tell you to take your phone to Motorola.
So I don't want to unlock the boot-loader at this time. Maybe after the warrantee expires.
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Well, your warranty is void whether you root or unlock the bootloader. Personally, I'd unlock the bootloader because it gives you more options to recover from user error.
I don't have to tell Motorola that I am rooting the phone. I have to tell them if I unlock the boot-loader. But poking around, it does look like it is dangerous to root this phone without unlocking the boot-loader.
Puzzlegal said:
I don't have to tell Motorola that I am rooting the phone. I have to tell them if I unlock the boot-loader. But poking around, it does look like it is dangerous to root this phone without unlocking the boot-loader.
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Meh, it's not all that difficult. Just follow the instructions word for word and you'll be fine. Just make sure you have all the correct drivers and files before beginning.
It'll be much easier to enable wifi hotspot with an unlocked bootloader though. I already tried it once with my Moto X with a locked bootloader and it's a PITA. Had to go back to stock and run SlapMyMoto again. Framework-res.apk is a fickle *****.
Hello there.
First of all sorry if was maybe asked hundreds of times but at least from the phone app I wasn't able to find my questions.
I have a T-Mobile version.
If I'll request an unlock code thus I'll unlock it, then I'll be ever able to relock it and get back my warranty?!
Thanks!!!
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No, your warranty is gone as soon as you request your bootloader unlock code, even if you don't unlock the phone.
Steve-x said:
No, your warranty is gone as soon as you request your bootloader unlock code, even if you don't unlock the phone.
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Moto has changed their policy and unlocking no longer voids the warranty.
BladeRunner said:
Moto has changed their policy and unlocking no longer voids the warranty.
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That only applies to the Developer Edition!
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That only applies to the Developer Edition!
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You're right, and that is just a silly policy.
I see... Thanks guys!!!!
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You're right, and that is just a silly policy.
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Indeed, I can understand if is a CPU problem or any HW issue derived by silly things like overclocking and so on, by if my display lose is placement and glue? Aka manufacturing issue. BTW for now its okay. I'll miss a bit my GravityBox and pie but IMHO the os is kinda perfect.
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DAddYE said:
Indeed, I can understand if is a CPU problem or any HW issue derived by silly things like overclocking and so on, by if my display lose is placement and glue? Aka manufacturing issue. BTW for now its okay. I'll miss a bit my GravityBox and pie but IMHO the os is kinda perfect.
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I like to think of it as a step in the right direction at a minimum. They provide a way to unlock the bootloader which is a positive.
I know they don't want bogus warranty claims because people have bricked their phone but I suspect the returns due to bricking are much more related to the root exploits used on bootloader locked phones then on ones with the bootloader unlocked. I am also thankful many providers have approved of the unlocking, such as Rogers in Canada. It is a shame Verizon and AT&T have decided against it with the non-dev editions phones.
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I like to think of it as a step in the right direction at a minimum. They provide a way to unlock the bootloader which is a positive.
I know they don't want bogus warranty claims because people have bricked their phone but I suspect the returns due to bricking are much more related to the root exploits used on bootloader locked phones then on ones with the bootloader unlocked. I am also thankful many providers have approved of the unlocking, such as Rogers in Canada. It is a shame Verizon and AT&T have decided against it with the non-dev editions phones.
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I totally agree with you. I mean, I would prefer the Sony way where if they detect that the problem is related to the unlocking they will charge u. Otherwise it is fine. But I know that is a wasting of resources and money and for a reborn company now is better focusing on other things. Regarding the carrier thing that is something pretty weird. What I hate more than anything else is the "exclusive" thing. Annoying at best. That why I prefer having less signal and have my phone unlocked but more important WITHOUT the creepy CARRIER LOGO... Jeez.
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Willing to get things rolling with $20 for someone who can get root without using the HTCDev root for the Sprint variant.
If it's possible to retain HTC Warranty, I think it'd be worth looking into.
Anyone else agree?
Greetings,
There is already a Bounty thread for the M8 (it does say for all GSM variants) but there is mention of Sprint devices in said thread.
If I remember correctly @beaups said he will not be working on an HTC-Dev workaround (meaning any device that is unlockable through HTC-Dev) maybe he'll pop in and clarify.
I'll leave the thread open for now, there may be other devs working on an exploit.
Thanks BD619
I don't understand. Looking for working temproot to run permanent soff solution sans Htcdev or looking for some permaroot with locked/s-on
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I don't understand. Looking for working temproot to run permanent soff solution sans Htcdev or looking for some permaroot with locked/s-on
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He wants to bypass HTC Dev would be my guess
Never heard of warranty issues in USA. Is that happening now
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Occasionally HTC will refuse/charge for service if a device has been unlocked prior.
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He wants to bypass HTC Dev would be my guess
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Exactly.
HTC refused to send me a replacement M7 for the purple camera haze because I had an unlocked bootloader.
Blamed the purple haze on overheating due to using non HTC software. complete BS.
Yes, bypassing HTCdev is the goal.
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Never heard of warranty issues in USA. Is that happening now
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See my post just above.
So what you are asking for is what is the same thing in this thread right?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2733870
orangekid said:
So what you are asking for is what is the same thing in this thread right?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2733870
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Nope.
This thread is requesting root, not S-OFF.
Captain_Throwback said:
Nope.
This thread is requesting root, not S-OFF.
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I see,
So just looking for Perm Root / System RW without S OFF.
Alright, well good luck!
orangekid said:
I see,
So just looking for Perm Root / System RW without S OFF.
Alright, well good luck!
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Specifically, root without HTC Dev (which is currently the only way to achieve root on any non-Verizon variants).
Personally I've never had any issues with warranty concerns and I've used HTC Dev on every device I've had since the OG EVO. It's relatively easy to restore the device to a completely unrooted/stock state once you've gotten S-OFF, so I've never seen a need to find an alternative method to root.
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Specifically, root without HTC Dev (which is currently the only way to achieve root on any non-Verizon variants).
Personally I've never had any issues with warranty concerns and I've used HTC Dev on every device I've had since the OG EVO. It's relatively easy to restore the device to a completely unrooted/stock state once you've gotten S-OFF, so I've never seen a need to find an alternative method to root.
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But they have record of your IMEI / ESN having used HTC Dev in the past, even when you go back to stock before sending in, correct?
orangekid said:
But they have record of your IMEI / ESN having used HTC Dev in the past, even when you go back to stock before sending in, correct?
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They have a record of your having requested an unlock code, sure. But that doesn't mean you ever used it to unlock the device.
Unless they have some reason to suspect that you've harmed your device by unlocking it, I doubt HTC would bother checking. And Sprint definitely wouldn't bother checking with HTC to see if that's the case if the device appears to be in stock condition.
I've returned many devices to Sprint for warranty replacements and one device to HTC directly and have NEVER had an issue.
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They have a record of your having requested an unlock code, sure. But that doesn't mean you ever used it to unlock the device.
Unless they have some reason to suspect that you've harmed your device by unlocking it, I doubt HTC would bother checking. And Sprint definitely wouldn't bother checking with HTC to see if that's the case if the device appears to be in stock condition.
I've returned many devices to Sprint for warranty replacements and one device to HTC directly and have NEVER had an issue.
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That's a good point, I have returned devices to Sprint when I was on Sprint and they didn't ask me anything or even check the bootloader, they just replaced it.
I am not sure how much interested for developers this particular request will generate, but we'll see...
Thanks for the clarification Captain..
I was confused because I didn't think it was possible to get perm root on an HTC device without unlocking the bootloader..
Why not take the device back to the carrier instead of shipping back to HTC?
I do not believe there to be a permroot available without having first unlocked the bootloader or at least, I haven't seen it done.
I don't know much about the m8 as I'm on the t6 but both t6 and m7 didn't need to use htc-dev.
Either Rumrunner, or weaksauce coupled with rumrunner.
Beaups would be most able to answer this question for you.
IAmTheOneTheyCallNeo said:
Why not take the device back to the carrier instead of shipping back to HTC?
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These stories of people walking into a Sprint store with a broken phone and walking out with a new one are nothing more than mythology, to me.
elrayray said:
These stories of people walking into a Sprint store with a broken phone and walking out with a new one are nothing more than mythology, to me.
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Precisely.
I guess the stores in areas outside of mine would rather just replace the device and not ask questions than try to shift the blame to the customer or to HTC.
Standard response from techs here is,"Call Assurion."
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I do not believe there to be a permroot available without having first unlocked the bootloader or at least, I haven't seen it done.
Beaups would be most able to answer this question for you.
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There isn't and that's what I'm requesting.
Root, which also requires an unlocked bootloader... that I would like to not have unlocked by htcdev.
If there isn't much interest in it, no biggie. I'll just htcdev unlock if nothing comes of this over the next couple weeks.
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JONBOY345 said:
Precisely.
I guess the stores in areas outside of mine would rather just replace the device and not ask questions than try to shift the blame to the customer or to HTC.
Standard response from techs here is,"Call Assurion."
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If your phone is damaged then you have to deal with Assurion.... If it's software or device malfunction then the store will replace it no question... Most you would need to do is put stock recovery back and relock device...
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Hey did a search and didn't find an answer, or at least didn't see it.
So if you get your N6 from a carrier (except VZW cause they don't offer) and unlock the bootloader does that void insurance or warranty?
rekids said:
Hey did a search and didn't find an answer, or at least didn't see it.
So if you get your N6 from a carrier (except VZW cause they don't offer) and unlock the bootloader does that void insurance or warranty?
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depends on your carriers rules. most likely it does void your warranty.
Not really sure it applies to insurance I jumped into the pool with my last phone while drunk . The phone still booted was unlocked and on Verizon ...they still sent me a new one .
I am also running my N6 on Verizon currently. It stayed locked for like 12 hours until I remembered all the reasons I run a rooted phone; ad blocker, back up, customization.
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Thanks all
rekids said:
Hey did a search and didn't find an answer, or at least didn't see it.
So if you get your N6 from a carrier (except VZW cause they don't offer) and unlock the bootloader does that void insurance or warranty?
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You should be fine man iv sent back bricked devices and unlocked devices for warranty, if you are with a major carrier in the US they will take care of you plus you can re lock the bootloader this is a nexus device you will be fine
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