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I've read some really good reviews for the camera zoom fx app, has anyone used this on their Z1 or similar camera apps from the play store.
The stock app is so hit and miss and although it can produce some great quality pictures, sometimes having to fiddle around with manual settings etc. can prevent capturing precious moments.
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gumbsy1 said:
I've read some really good reviews for the camera zoom fx app, has anyone used this on their Z1 or similar camera apps from the play store.
The stock app is so hit and miss and although it can produce some great quality pictures, sometimes having to fiddle around with manual settings etc. can prevent capturing precious moments.
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I have tried all (decent) camera apps out there, camera fx, camera pro, fv5, motorola camera, kitkat camera and so on... all of them are worse than stock, I mean you can tweak some settings exposure stuff like that (on some of them) but the stock camera in high lights captures the best shots of all camera apps (and 95% better than manual too), when it's cloudy or lights aren't high switch to manual, no setting, no scene, no hdr, no steady shot, nothing. If the picture is too exposed I suggest to use the native resolution 20mp 4:3 which result in a bit darker photo. In low lights, or night ... ATM forget about that I'm unable (unless maybe you have patience and a tripod) to capture nice shots.
When you use the stock camera in auto please keep an eye on bottom right and before each shot check if it detects the correct scene, if not change angle if you don't want then switch to manual (with settings said before). Remember that we don't have OIS (optical image stabilizer) but a software one, which IMHO currently is a lie, so keep your hands steady as a brick.
Probably wait and see what the 4.3 update will bring to the camera before even spending money on buying anything.
gumbsy1 said:
I've read some really good reviews for the camera zoom fx app, has anyone used this on their Z1 or similar camera apps from the play store.
The stock app is so hit and miss and although it can produce some great quality pictures, sometimes having to fiddle around with manual settings etc. can prevent capturing precious moments.
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I found the LG camera app to be excellent. It's taking some great shots on my Z1. Mind you, I'm no photo expert so I could be wrong but I just did a compare with some 20mp shots on the manual mode with stock cam and the 20mp shots with the LG app. Found the LG app much better as I can't be bothered with tweaking settings. Most shots I take need to be completed within 2-3 secs. I also tried FXcameraZoom and wasn't too happy with it.
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I have tried all (decent) camera apps out there, camera fx, camera pro, fv5, motorola camera, kitkat camera and so on... all of them are worse than stock, I mean you can tweak some settings exposure stuff like that (on some of them) but the stock camera in high lights captures the best shots of all camera apps (and 95% better than manual too), when it's cloudy or lights aren't high switch to manual, no setting, no scene, no hdr, no steady shot, nothing. If the picture is too exposed I suggest to use the native resolution 20mp 4:3 which result in a bit darker photo. In low lights, or night ... ATM forget about that I'm unable (unless maybe you have patience and a tripod) to capture nice shots.
When you use the stock camera in auto please keep an eye on bottom right and before each shot check if it detects the correct scene, if not change angle if you don't want then switch to manual (with settings said before). Remember that we don't have OIS (optical image stabilizer) but a software one, which IMHO currently is a lie, so keep your hands steady as a brick.
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So more often than not you just use superier auto unless it's dark then you go for manual?
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So more often than not you just use superier auto unless it's dark then you go for manual?
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Exactly
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Exactly
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a good camere is: Camera awesome.
Now i have ihacher 1.1 and superior is set to 20 mp ... very good
gioiellino said:
a good camere is: Camera awesome.
Now i have ihacher 1.1 and superior is set to 20 mp ... very good
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Tried that one too, I didn't see any substantial difference
after several tests Pro Capture is my favourite camera app
faster, more precise and better focus than stock
special support for Xperia Z1 (optimized algorithm and 16/9 wide 20MPX)
better auto mode performance than stock superior auto
macro have more sharp details
sometimes I use stock camera because it can handle ISO level and if I have a lot of light I can set ISO 50 and reduce the exposure to obtein perfect panorama images
Hi guys. Anonymous here.
recently I have uploaded the MI A1 camera app . Which was taking better photos. With fast capturing and focusing speed.
This time I am uploading the Nokia 8 camera app.
I have tested the camera app in stock. It was taking very good hdr pictures. Better than mi a1 and also stock camera.
It was capturing good front camera pictures. With white flash screen.
Bugs : you tell me.
Try out yourself. Thanks
Link : https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-JLQG1CPg_VXncx9GlKTgMiDREh7XjAQ/view?usp=drivesdk
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Hi guys. Anonymous here.
recently I have uploaded the MI A1 camera app . Which was taking better photos. With fast capturing and focusing speed.
This time I am uploading the Nokia 8 camera app.
I have tested the camera app in stock. It was taking very good hdr pictures. Better than mi a1 and also stock camera.
It was capturing good front camera pictures. With white flash screen.
Bugs : you tell me.
Try out yourself. Thanks
Link : https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-JLQG1CPg_VXncx9GlKTgMiDREh7XjAQ/view?usp=drivesdk
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Can You Port Arnova's Gcam or Camera NX with a Stable Portrait mode with Focus?
Not working on pixel xperience 8.1 rom
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Not working on pixel xperience 8.1 rom
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Yeah true... Doesn't work for me either.. on PE
Works on stock but I can't see any difference to stock camera app pictures, with HDR on.
MaXology said:
Can You Port Arnova's Gcam or Camera NX with a Stable Portrait mode with Focus?
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I'll try to do it. But im not sure.
eemgee said:
Works on stock but I can't see any difference to stock camera app pictures, with HDR on.
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Tap to focus clearly. Then capture. It worked for me.
diegomartinezlovey said:
Not working on pixel xperience 8.1 rom
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Nougut based.
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I'll try to do it. But im not sure.
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Thanks...
I Can confirm that hdr pics are way better than stock cam in low light and less noisy too. Thanks bro for providing this app.
This needs camera 2 API to be activated or rooted?
I'm looking for a better way to take photos but almost every way i found seems to require custom ROMS, camera 2 API enabled, etc. Phone is under warranty and i can't mess with the system at all...
Thanks
DoubleM101 said:
This needs camera 2 API to be activated or rooted?
I'm looking for a better way to take photos but almost every way i found seems to require custom ROMS, camera 2 API enabled, etc. Phone is under warranty and i can't mess with the system at all...
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No APIs are needed. Works flawlessly on the stock ROM.
Working Perfectly on Stock Rom. Normal Photos are Batter than Stock Camera app thanks... @Anonymous
there is a bug when i'm trying to take a picture with front camera. Stuck on white flash screen. It has to do with beautify mode.
Anonymous said:
Hi guys. Anonymous here.
recently I have uploaded the MI A1 camera app . Which was taking better photos. With fast capturing and focusing speed.
This time I am uploading the Nokia 8 camera app.
I have tested the camera app in stock. It was taking very good hdr pictures. Better than mi a1 and also stock camera.
It was capturing good front camera pictures. With white flash screen.
Bugs : you tell me.
Try out yourself. Thanks
Link : https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-JLQG1CPg_VXncx9GlKTgMiDREh7XjAQ/view?usp=drivesdk
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bothie camera features work ?
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bothie camera features work ?
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No..
works good. but when i click photo with front cam with beauty features on, it shows an error code 708.
Works like a charm on my Moto Z Play (7.1.1)
How to connect camera on Moto G5 Plus?
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but on my Moto G5 Plus says "can't connect to the camera" why bro?
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Try this one it is fantastic for root and non root users https://forum.xda-developers.com/g5-plus/how-to/workaround-noise-reduction-t3744031
Hello @Arnova8G2,
I saw your work with the Google Camera Mod for various phones and I just want to say impressive work! I am using the Huawei P20 Pro and absolutely hates the Front Camera functionality. Tried to download your file to use on my phone but was unable to do so. When I try downloading it is says there as a problem parsing the package. Do you by any chance know if it would work with the P20 Pro? Any help is greatly appreciated. Thank you very much in advance.
Dear @Arnova8G2 & @miniuser123,
I had S8 and you do fantastic job porting Pixel Xl 2 camera to all SD845 phones. And some other make port for LGV30 dual camera - rear camera and second wide angle camera.
Please make Pixel Xl 2 camera port for Huawei P20 Pro for 40MP, 10MP and camera zoom 3x, 5x.
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Dear @Arnova8G2 & @miniuser123,
I had S8 and you do fantastic job porting Pixel Xl 2 camera to all SD845 phones. And some other make port for LGV30 dual camera - rear camera and second wide angle camera.
Please make Pixel Xl 2 camera port for Huawei P20 Pro for 40MP, 10MP and camera zoom 3x, 5x.
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It makes absolutely no sense to do 40MP. It's the inferior mode, and processing overhead would be insane for HDR, even with full optimisation (which you'll never see on a port). It wouldn't work.
Only 10MP makes sense.
5x is a hybrid zoom. You'd need the Huawei software. Google Camera currently has no such functionality. Not that it supports any optical zoom (3x) by default either.
You can perhaps hope for 10MP with working HDR+ and front camera. Anything else? I'd say it's completely unrealistic / unnecessary.
After the software updates, the only thing I'd really see Google Camera as being useful for is the front camera and / or for AOSP when that becomes stable on the P20 Pro. But by then, a working port of Huawei Camera on the P20/Pro is quite likely - or at least more likely, and certainly more desirable than a Google Camera port.
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It makes absolutely no sense to do 40MP. It's the inferior mode, and processing overhead would be insane for HDR, even with full optimisation (which you'll never see on a port). It wouldn't work.
Only 10MP makes sense.
5x is a hybrid zoom. You'd need the Huawei software. Google Camera currently has no such functionality. Not that it supports any optical zoom (3x) by default either.
You can perhaps hope for 10MP with working HDR+ and front camera. Anything else? I'd say it's completely unrealistic / unnecessary.
After the software updates, the only thing I'd really see Google Camera as being useful for is the front camera and / or for AOSP when that becomes stable on the P20 Pro. But by then, a working port of Huawei Camera on the P20/Pro is quite likely - or at least more likely, and certainly more desirable than a Google Camera port.
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Yes, I am just hoping for the Front Camera to have the same Portrait Mode as the Google Camera as the Beauty Mode post-processing is through the roof even with it turned to zero. I am just hoping to use the Front Camera I have on the P20 to achieve the same Portrait result as I did from the Pixel 2 XL. Everything else about the P20 camera I can live with. Thank you.
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Hello @Arnova8G2,
I saw your work with the Google Camera Mod for various phones and I just want to say impressive work! I am using the Huawei P20 Pro and absolutely hates the Front Camera functionality. Tried to download your file to use on my phone but was unable to do so. When I try downloading it is says there as a problem parsing the package. Do you by any chance know if it would work with the P20 Pro? Any help is greatly appreciated. Thank you very much in advance.
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Yes! Finally someone who has the same struggle as I have!
P20 pro is a pretty expensive phone and I am beginning to feel disappointed with the less than stellar quality of its front camera.
I know that its a fixed focus lens on the front but how come Gogle Pixel was able to implement a sharp shooter front camera with a fixed focus? To think that it has 24 Megapixels?!?! Such a scam
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Yes! Finally someone who has the same struggle as I have!
P20 pro is a pretty expensive phone and I am beginning to feel disappointed with the less than stellar quality of its front camera.
I know that its a fixed focus lens on the front but how come Gogle Pixel was able to implement a sharp shooter front camera with a fixed focus? To think that it has 24 Megapixels?!?! Such a scam
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I don't think you understand what scam means.
Also, whilst not ideal, I suggest you learn how to work with fixed focus. You will not get bad results with it if you do, now that 'beauty' is in check.
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I don't think you understand what scam means.
Also, whilst not ideal, I suggest you learn how to work with fixed focus. You will not get bad results with it if you do, now that 'beauty' is in check.
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Hi @mudnightoil,
sorry for the rather strong term that I used. But yes, I have been trying to learn some workarounds with a fixed focus front camera. It's just that, it's difficult to adjust because I was just so used to autofocus front cameras like Asus Selfie. I just feel like the 24 megapixel camera of the p20 pro is a wasted potential.
Another argument that I have is with Google Pixel's 8 mp fixed focus lens producing more vivid and sharper selfies than P20 pro's 24 mp.
Both the background and the foreground are sharp. Dynamic range is better! I mean come on! I really hope it could be fixed via software update very soon!
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Archer Casio said:
Hi @mudnightoil,
sorry for the rather strong term that I used. But yes, I have been trying to learn some workarounds with a fixed focus front camera. It's just that, it's difficult to adjust because I was just so used to autofocus front cameras like Asus Selfie. I just feel like the 24 megapixel camera of the p20 pro is a wasted potential.
Another argument that I have is with Google Pixel's 8 mp fixed focus lens producing more vivid and sharper selfies than P20 pro's 24 mp.
Both the background and the foreground are sharp. Dynamic range is better! I mean come on! I really hope it could be fixed via software update very soon!
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Other than the shortcomings of the front camera, I have no other complaints with the P20 pro.
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Yes, I am just hoping for the Front Camera to have the same Portrait Mode as the Google Camera as the Beauty Mode post-processing is through the roof even with it turned to zero. I am just hoping to use the Front Camera I have on the P20 to achieve the same Portrait result as I did from the Pixel 2 XL. Everything else about the P20 camera I can live with. Thank you.
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Same issue here ...the rear cameras are great ..but the front camera beautification is just too agressive even when set to zero . A google camera mod with HDR+ in just 10mp for rear camera and portrait enabled on both the front and rear will be really helpful .
someone has any idea what's changed on this camera mod?
http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=898279&view=findpost&p=72790522
Dropbox: https://www.dropbox.com/s/61dj4t0ca716v7a/P20ProCamera-Magisk15+.zip?dl=1
starbase64 said:
someone has any idea what's changed on this camera mod?
http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=898279&view=findpost&p=72790522
Dropbox: https://www.dropbox.com/s/61dj4t0ca716v7a/P20ProCamera-Magisk15+.zip?dl=1
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Yeah I saw that too, and curious what's changed in that. I assume that you need to be rooted to flash that?
starbase64 said:
someone has any idea what's changed on this camera mod?
http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=898279&view=findpost&p=72790522
Dropbox: https://www.dropbox.com/s/61dj4t0ca716v7a/P20ProCamera-Magisk15+.zip?dl=1
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That's not a GCam port, that's to install the P20 Pro Camera software on a non-pro P20.
So far as I'm aware you'll need the libs to get it to work properly.
Tbh the pro has a monster camera set up.
The 40mp is more for landscape pics, the 10 for point and shoot.
the selfie cam has been great for me so far.
But then I've only had it since 11am 24th may so I'm sure I'll find some issues.
The rear cameras are great and on average they take better pictures than my Pixel 2. I also end up with pictures that I just otherwise would never have been able to capture with another cameraphone. There are some downsides though where I would love to use a hypothetical GCam port. Outdoor photography is a chore thanks to the auto "greenery" AI thing that cranks the saturation. The 10 MP auto mode also oversharpens like crazy. Pro mode is sometimes useful, but you lose things like HDR or aperture simulation which are lame tradeoffs.
The biggest issue for me though is the front camera, which is completely unusable thanks to the beauty mode that can't actually be fully disabled. I'm using Retrica right now which works pretty well but you lose the nice aperture/bokeh simulation of the P20 camera app. Small price to pay for a human looking face, but anyway that's mainly why I'm hoping for a GCam port.
I am very interested in development. Maybe it's possible.
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So far as I'm aware you'll need the libs to get it to work properly.
Tbh the pro has a monster camera set up.
The 40mp is more for landscape pics, the 10 for point and shoot.
the selfie cam has been great for me so far.
But then I've only had it since 11am 24th may so I'm sure I'll find some issues.
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I've tested the 40MP on everything... it's fantastic. The detail I get out of each picture is a huge step up even from my old DSLR. Granted, I did not have an expensive lens, but the processing power on this phone easily surpasses that camera!
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I've tested the 40MP on everything... it's fantastic. The detail I get out of each picture is a huge step up even from my old DSLR. Granted, I did not have an expensive lens, but the processing power on this phone easily surpasses that camera!
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Lovely, perhaps the lineage ROM in the development section may be able to use it?
sarichter said:
I've tested the 40MP on everything... it's fantastic. The detail I get out of each picture is a huge step up even from my old DSLR. Granted, I did not have an expensive lens, but the processing power on this phone easily surpasses that camera!
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very unusual on fw 120 and previous
we get best results with 10mpx AI OFF
what do you set when you shot 40mpx?
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The rear cameras are great and on average they take better pictures than my Pixel 2. I also end up with pictures that I just otherwise would never have been able to capture with another cameraphone. There are some downsides though where I would love to use a hypothetical GCam port. Outdoor photography is a chore thanks to the auto "greenery" AI thing that cranks the saturation. The 10 MP auto mode also oversharpens like crazy. Pro mode is sometimes useful, but you lose things like HDR or aperture simulation which are lame tradeoffs.
The biggest issue for me though is the front camera, which is completely unusable thanks to the beauty mode that can't actually be fully disabled. I'm using Retrica right now which works pretty well but you lose the nice aperture/bokeh simulation of the P20 camera app. Small price to pay for a human looking face, but anyway that's mainly why I'm hoping for a GCam port.
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very unusual on fw 120 and previous
we get best results with 10mpx AI OFF
what do you set when you shot 40mpx?
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The 10MP mode is superior in almost any setting. Hence why it's the default mode. That the 40MP mode is even exposed is mainly for marketing reasons.
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The 10MP mode is superior in almost any setting. Hence why it's the default mode. That the 40MP mode is even exposed is mainly for marketing reasons.
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That's not the case at all from my experience comparing 10 vs 40 vs 3x zoom in various situations.
In low light, 40mp is poor, but in well lit places, 40mp is far more detailed, less over-sharpened, and significantly nicer overall.
It's generally less processed, and HDR etc doesn't seem to be enabled on it, but it's certainly not inferior to 10mp in general, but is occasionally.
If you want to do any post processing, the 40mp is probably better in general... though I guess few would want to do this!
It seems to me that the Wide Selfie Mode is a Scam. I realized this already a few Updates ago but was able to still downgrade, now with CSF9 i am stuck
In normal Selfie Mode i can only take Pictures with 5 MP, also other Camera Apps only recognize 5 MP. Only in the Samsung Camera and in Wide Selfie Mode i can take Pictures with 8 MP.
Could someone confirm this to me?
I had a short chat with Samsung Support and they told me it should not be that way and it would be fixed in the next Update but no idea how much i can trust in that
No one is on the same build that could tell me if its the same for them?
yes, same here
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No one is on the same build that could tell me if its the same for them?
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Not quite sure what you mean, you're issue is that your selfies are 5MP using the stock camera app?
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No one is on the same build that could tell me if its the same for them?
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Same here too
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Not quite sure what you mean, you're issue is that your selfies are 5MP using the stock camera app?
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Yes... if u open up the selfie camera and leave it in normal mode and look into the settings u can only apply up to 5.2 MP, only in Wide Selfie Mode u will see 8 MP as an Option, also in other Camera Apps u can only choose up to 5.2 MP
same here
ME TOO!!
Yes true, first I thought its an issue with mine only!! the thing is it shows in SAM info+ app as 5 MP and on any other 3rd party app its only 5 MP!! mine is exynos N960f
Same for me, only 5.2 MP for normal selfie... exynos note 9, June patch.
same here with last update
Just change the selfie mode. It starts with the wide selfie and not the "normal" selfie.
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Having the same problem with my newly bought Exynos Note 9. Hopefully the 8MP selfie option will return in Android 10.
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If you click on "wide selfie" you will see that it uses 8mpx... ?
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That't not the case for me. It only uses 2.8MP
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I never seen that resolution... If set on wide I have only there options..
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That't not the case for me. It only uses 2.8MP
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Now I've made some tests.. You'll see 2.8 mpx only in panorama mode... You have to select photo and click on the left button over shutter button!
I swear it's not that confusing to use a camera on a phone
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Thanks! I now have 8MP in my camera!
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You always had 8mpx on your camera.. ? ?
The sensor is 8mp arranged in a 4:3 aspect ratio. You cannot get 8mp for an aspect ratio wider than that. An 18.5:9 wide image from that sensor is done by chopping 2800 pixels of the top and bottom (5.2mp left).
Now, if you zoom your selfie cam in and go back into settings to select your aspect ratio, you will see that 5.2mp is all you get for the 4:3 aspect ratio (that's the most mp you now get).
I suspect people are seeing this happen when they have their cam zoom on. Turn off zoom and look again.
I found a way to take good macro shots without having focus difficulties and without using additional physical lens.
Im using BSG gcam (MGC_8.1.101_A9_GV1m) with Wichaya-8.1-1.2-Dennis-mi11Ultra.xml.
But i bet you can use other Gcam versions as well
Im using Digital Zoom with the Ultrawide by selecting ultrawide 0.6x and then pinching with fingers so it uses up to 10x digital zoom and doesn't change to the main lens.
I also leave the Automatic Focus ON, i tried the other focus types but its better for Gcam to do it automatically.
I read that, Its the Ultrawide that has the Macro features, but for some reason on Xiaomi stock camera when you use it it changes to the main camera.
Here's some examples, I haven't tested much besides these coins but I think it's the right way to go about it.
I also use the max Digital zoom 10x but i bet you can reduce abit to achieve better quality.
I also tried with my skin and fingertips and it can focus real good as close range.
If you tried it send some examples here.
Thanks for sharing this! I just tried to do a few macro shots on the stock camera and then pinched in a little bit from 0.6x to 0.9x with my fingers as well. I couldn't force a higher Hybrid Zoom on the UW on stock though but it still looked great imo.
The results turned out better than I expected (I'm running the latest v21.8.11 Xiaomi.eu weekly).
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Thanks for sharing this! I just tried to do a few macro shots on the stock camera and then pinched in a little bit from 0.6x to 0.9x with my fingers as well. I couldn't force a higher Hybrid Zoom on the UW on stock though but it still looked great imo.
The results turned out better than I expected (I'm running the latest v21.8.11 Xiaomi.eu weekly).
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But thats using the stock camera, you can only go up to 0.9x digital before switching to main and the focus doesnt work properly in stock app aswell
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But thats using the stock camera, you can only go up to 0.9x digital before switching to main and the focus doesnt work properly in stock app aswell
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The camera is pretty disappointing in some respects for an ultra premium camera phone
In some comparisons on YouTube the regular mi 11 took better pics than the ultra and they have decided to use the 108mp camera in the mi mix 4 so i guess they realise this one was a dud
Regular cam seems ok for macro if you move back a few inches and then zoom in
Use the main lens in 50MP mode and crop. FAR better macro than using the ultra wide.
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