Note 5 alternatives that are better and cheaper - Galaxy Note5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

My Note 4 will be my last phone from Samsung.
Now thinking of the LG G4 Pro when it comes out or there's the new Motorola X Style coming out next month for only £359.99:
http://blog.clove.co.uk/2015/08/14/pre-order-motorola-x-style-359-99-coming-september/
When you compare the specs of this phone and the price to the Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge+ 32GB – £600 including VAT (£500+VAT) 64GB – £680 including VAT (£566.67+VAT) you can see how Samsung are rapidly becoming the new Nokia.
Perhaps they shouldn't rely on 'focus groups' so much?

Don't know if cheaper but I'll be moving to LG g4 pro hopefully if it has what I want. Contract expires soon
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Galaxaster said:
My Note 4 will be my last phone from Samsung.
Now thinking of the LG G4 Pro when it comes out or there's the new Motorola X Style coming out next month for only £359.99:
http://blog.clove.co.uk/2015/08/14/pre-order-motorola-x-style-359-99-coming-september/
When you compare the specs of this phone and the price to the Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge+ 32GB – £600 including VAT (£500+VAT) 64GB – £680 including VAT (£566.67+VAT) you can see how Samsung are rapidly becoming the new Nokia.
Perhaps they shouldn't rely on 'focus groups' so much?
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Yes, the G Pro 4 as the lad above me said, it will be a really heavy hitter. Or...
...the previous Notes, 3 and 4.
True, no 64 bit processors, but the Note 4's camera is comparable to the one in the Note 5, also removable battery, also the same 2K screen.
The Note 3 - camera is obviously weaker, but due to the screen not being 2K, doesn't drain the battery so much, plus we have ports of the Note 4 and S6. The phone is still powerful even today. And these days it's dirt cheap.
Or if you don't care about battery life too much, wait for the new Nexuses. I'm eyeing the Nexus 5 (2015) cause rumors claim it will be Full HD screen instead of 2K + the Snapdragon 820 inside.
Thanks, Samsung, for a 3000 mAh battery in a phone that could have had 4000 easily, and this bull***t "why use your phone for longer when you can charge it faster"? F*** logic.
If my only upgrade options are with pathetic battery life, I think I'll get pathetic battery life with pure Android.

I've also read that the Nexus 5 (15) is going to have the 620 snapdragon.

Yes... The Moto X PE
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cheaper ...yes ...better , No

sirobelec said:
Yes, the G Pro 4 as the lad above me said, it will be a really heavy hitter. Or...
...the previous Notes, 3 and 4.
True, no 64 bit processors, but the Note 4's camera is comparable to the one in the Note 5, also removable battery, also the same 2K screen.
The Note 3 - camera is obviously weaker, but due to the screen not being 2K, doesn't drain the battery so much, plus we have ports of the Note 4 and S6. The phone is still powerful even today. And these days it's dirt cheap.
Or if you don't care about battery life too much, wait for the new Nexuses. I'm eyeing the Nexus 5 (2015) cause rumors claim it will be Full HD screen instead of 2K + the Snapdragon 820 inside.
Thanks, Samsung, for a 3000 mAh battery in a phone that could have had 4000 easily, and this bull***t "why use your phone for longer when you can charge it faster"? F*** logic.
If my only upgrade options are with pathetic battery life, I think I'll get pathetic battery life with pure Android.
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I don't think we're going to see a phone with the Snapdragon 820 until 2016. I'd love to be proven wrong though. It just got announced.
Best hope we have is a G4 Pro with the full Snapdragon 810 that doesn't overheat and with all we wanted in the Note (removable battery, SD card) and of course what you would expect in a flagship (awesome screen - probably with LG it will be IPS, top end camera, and the other features). I'd love for a return to a Nexus with a removable battery and storage but I don't think that is happening.

The last LG G pro, the LG G pro 2 wasn't released for the US market. Maybe the LG G pro 3 will be different.
The LG g4 isn't really an option because it has inferior graphics performance vs the note 4 and almost no development support.
Anyway I'm going to give the Note 5 a try. If I don't like it, I have 14 days to return it.

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My Note 4 will be my last phone from Samsung.
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Don't be so dramatic . Enjoy your note4, it's a great phone, the s6 is a great phone too, the note5 is a mistake when you consider its predecessors only. Next year Samsung might wisen up and make a great phone again

godutch said:
Don't be so dramatic . Enjoy your note4, it's a great phone, the s6 is a great phone too, the note5 is a mistake when you consider its predecessors only. Next year Samsung might wisen up and make a great phone again
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HTC and Motorola have both done the same thing. They both removed expandable storage and then restored it.
The HTC M7 and Moto X both lacked microsd card support. The HTC restored expandable storage in the M8 and M9 while motorola restored it in the Moto X style.

The best alternative to the Note 5? You already own it, it's called the Note 4!
With that said, if you really don't need the Wacom pen (I do), I'd also have suggested the LG G4 or the Moto X Style/Pure if you can also do without a removable battery, with the latter's strongest selling point being that it works on just about any network you can imagine, no countless variants with locked-out bands like everyone who isn't Apple or Google tends to do.
I still don't believe the LG G4 Pro is a thing until it gets officially announced, but if they stop faffing about with capacitive styluses and put a proper Wacom digitizer in there, they're gonna steal all of the Galaxy Note users ticked off by the Note 5 in one fell swoop.

NamelessFragger said:
The best alternative to the Note 5? You already own it, it's called the Note 4!
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I'm using a Note 3 and its wonderful. I bought TWO Note 1's. The first one got flakey after a year and I didn't like the Note 2 cause of the narrower screen so I got another Note 1. Now I've upgraded to the Note 3 and the software (AryaMod 7.2 + a kernel with memory compression) is really maturing, I have a 128GB SD which I'll soon upgrade to 200GB, 256GB or 512GB depending on prices at the end of the year. The Note 3 was the great leap forward.
The Note 4 was an incremental step over the Note 3. I bit of a step backwards losing USB 3.0. But otherwise its a Note 3+
The Note5 is an evil degenerative troll. They should just cancel it and wait till next year.
Hopefully sales will be so bad that they will be compelled to release a fixit version of the Note 5 with SD, and either removable battery or make the silly thing water proof to give you a reason the battery can't be removed.
The Note5 is an abomination. Stick with the Note 3 or 4 till the Note 6 comes out.

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The Note5 is an abomination. Stick with the Note 3 or 4 till the Note 6 comes out.
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Really I think it will be a good phone, one of the best on the market but for note4 and s6 owners this phone won't be a straight upgrade more of a sidegrade, where you sacrifice some functionality for other functionality. It shouldn't have been, it should have a clear upgrade

The Note 5 has a lot of competition
The Huawei Mate 8 is launching next month.
Add this to the growing list of Note 5 alternatives:
http://vinereport.com/article/huawei.mate.8.mate.8.to.be.officially.released.in.ifa.new.phone.will.have.front.facing.led.flash.for.front.cam/2344.htm

That mate 8 phone sounds really impressive but these phones need to have some kinda pen especially since their bigger .. I hope the g4 pro ends up releasing

Biggest problem is every damn phone out there have somefunction wich is missing compared to N4
Exempel. Most phones dont have IR like moto
Removabale battery
The S pen and muti window
Support for my Gear S
No wireless charging
And other small stuff... So whatever damn phone i look at is missing functions
Im stickning with my N4 and dont know why we all Gotta chnage phones..mine is great.
Btw. Note 3 owners. Uppgrade to N4 i have them both at Home and n4 is better and worth it.
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For me, the main festure I want that Samsung has now failed on with both the Note 4 and Note 5, is a larger screen than my Note 3. All the things they did taking steps backwards with the Note 5, is just adding insult to injury for me. I don't care what the hell was in the phone, if it still a has a "small ass" 5.7 inch screen, I don't want it. Now I'm completely ready to jump to another manufacturer, after having the original Note and then Note 3, as long as someone comes out with a high end phone with a larger screen than 5.7 inches.

PurpleMelbourne said:
I'm using a Note 3 and its wonderful. I bought TWO Note 1's. The first one got flakey after a year and I didn't like the Note 2 cause of the narrower screen so I got another Note 1. Now I've upgraded to the Note 3 and the software (AryaMod 7.2 + a kernel with memory compression) is really maturing, I have a 128GB SD which I'll soon upgrade to 200GB, 256GB or 512GB depending on prices at the end of the year. The Note 3 was the great leap forward.
The Note 4 was an incremental step over the Note 3. I bit of a step backwards losing USB 3.0. But otherwise its a Note 3+
The Note5 is an evil degenerative troll. They should just cancel it and wait till next year.
Hopefully sales will be so bad that they will be compelled to release a fixit version of the Note 5 with SD, and either removable battery or make the silly thing water proof to give you a reason the battery can't be removed.
The Note5 is an abomination. Stick with the Note 3 or 4 till the Note 6 comes out.
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I definitely agree in that the Note 3 was the biggest leap forward, given the jump to 1080p, USB 3.0, S800, IR blaster and so forth.
The Note 4 lost USB 3.0, ambient temp and humidity sensors for whatever dumb reason, but I do like the fast charge, pen tilt sensitivity and Gear VR it brought to the table. It probably helped that I was coming from an S3 (would've been a Note 2 if I had my way); coming from a Note 3, you'd gain a lot less, even losing a little.
But you'd lose a lot less than going to the Note 5. Samsung really screwed us this time, and I can only hope they realize their error by bringing back everything with the Note 6.

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Why do you prefer Samsung Galaxy Note series?

Samsung has sold over 60 million Galaxy Note devices over the past three years.
What is the main reason why you prefer the Galaxy Note? Please vote and leave comments.
It's my first Note. When I saw the first Note I was like "Hell no, that phone is way too big" I thought my s3 was big enough. Flash forward 3 years after going from a 5.2" s5 to a 5.5" LG G3 and then the 5.5 yet slightly bigger OnePlus one the 5.7" Note 4 wasn't much of a stretch. I was contemplating the Nexus 6 but I felt that in terms of Phablet the Note 4 had so much more to offer for an extra 100$. So far I do have a couple of gripes but they're all software related therefore fixable. I was going to keep it as my backup device but after finding out all it can do I had a change of heart and decided to keep it as my daily driver. Note 4 FTW :good:
Went from Note 2 to Note 3, then OnePlus One, now the Note 4. OnePlus is a fine phone, especially for the price, but once you've integrated the s-pen into your daily life it's hard to go back. Every other "phablet" is a big phone and nothing more. The Note series delivers a lot of extra functionality that sets it apart and makes it more than just a big phone.
I only can choose 1 reason, but actually I've got more than 1 :
1. I like the design
2. I like the big screen & S pen
3. It came out in second half of the year, so it will get fastest update rather than other samsung phones, or it will get latest if google released the new android faster than usual
(Samsung is #1 choices in my city, great availability, great service center, and so on)
4. It has latest SoC, best specs on sheet
5. I have try them in SES in my city, and I can use a lot of its features
i have loved the first note and it only made sense to me to upgrade every year with the note series ( would have broken it with then note 4 if the edge was available lol)
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(would have broken it with then note 4 if the edge was available lol)
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It's Galaxy *Note* Edge, isn't it?
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Multitasking.
Great screens.
S-Pen (more with Note 4 than Note 3 tbh).
Design and quality feel (more so with the Note 4 than the Note 3).
Build quality.
Camera.
Loved my Note 2, and when sprint decided to release the Note 3 non sparked i had to go elsewhere (principalities) but I'm so happy to be back in the Note family. I actually don't use the spen as much as i should but this phone is so much more then that for me. A quality device with excellent specs! And works great with my Tab S!
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Note 1 - initially for screen size and performance
Note 2 - for the stylus note taking plus other Note features
Note 10.1 - Business functions with multi Windows and Note taking
Note 8 - wanted more portable Note 10 and better speed
Note 3 - really good stylus functions and multi windows. Also Wolfson sound card.
Note 10.1 2014 - replacement for my Note 10.1
Note 4 - looking to replace my Note 10.1 2014 but did not work out so looking forward to the 10.1 2015 device. Really like power and using Knox for business security
jah said:
Note 10.1 - Business functions with multi Windows and Note taking
Note 8 - wanted more portable Note 10 and better speed
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Doesn't Note 8 have the same CPU&GPU as Note 10.1?
Anyway, my Note 10.1 is very fast. The problem with it was Samsung for some reason released it with buggy firmware and all reviewers put into their reviews that it lags like hell - while the first update fix that problem altogether, the reviews stayed.
PS. And of course you have to keep some GBs free on the sdcard because otherwise it will slow down considerably. It is a known issue of most mobile devices caused by poor flash memory, I hope we will see SSDs in tablets soon.
Magnesus said:
Doesn't Note 8 have the same CPU&GPU as Note 10.1?
Anyway, my Note 10.1 is very fast. The problem with it was Samsung for some reason released it with buggy firmware and all reviewers put into their reviews that it lags like hell - while the first update fix that problem altogether, the reviews stayed.
PS. And of course you have to keep some GBs free on the sdcard because otherwise it will slow down considerably. It is a known issue of most mobile devices caused by poor flash memory, I hope we will see SSDs in tablets soon.
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They're all great products if exploited properly
I chose Top Performance and Multitasking e.g. the smoothness and speed of UI, 3GB RAM, Snapdragon 805 and incredible battery performance.
But I must admit, the disappointing Galaxy S5, the metal frame of Note 4 , its jaw dropping 5.7inch display and the fact Samsung made its Note series its premium range, all had me wanting this beast to
The awesome screen is the primary reason. I liked the firm factor of my prior LG G3 better BUT not the display.
.Note 4 is much better from my experience. Also tried the IP6 Plus for 2 weeks but my sidebyside comparison for a few days says the N4 is much better screen...especially for reading Kindle books / magazines.
This thread really needs an "all of the above" option
XInSaNeFartX said:
This thread really needs an "all of the above" option
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Then it definitely would be the most popular choice, but it is interesting to understand the primary reason
Regarding the big screen vote - it is a surprise for me because there are many different devices with big screens and high resolution now.
Zmiter Freeman said:
Then it definitely would be the most popular choice, but it is interesting to understand the primary reason
Regarding the big screen vote - it is a surprise for me because there are many different devices with big screens and high resolution now.
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Well I can't single out one reason. I love the size of the screen with its great display, great performance, and the SPen! Hard to single anything out. Compared to the other phones of this caliber I'd say the SPen helped to stick out. Plus I'm not a fan of Droids, iPhones and LG phones for various reasons.
Sadly, I think the multitasking is just not as good as it should be w/o root. It only supports a few apps, so that's out! :/
All I need for it to be perfect is root :good: okay, and maybe waterproofing and 64-bit processor but really that's just being spoiled
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S-Pen (more with Note 4 than Note 3 tbh).
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Was rereading the thread and noticed your comment in brackets. Why do you think S-Pen is better in Note 4 rather than in Note 3?
Zmiter Freeman said:
Was rereading the thread and noticed your comment in brackets. Why do you think S-Pen is better in Note 4 rather than in Note 3?
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Better sensitivity so it flows better on the screen. Also, text marking and functions like smart select.
Zmiter Freeman said:
Then it definitely would be the most popular choice, but it is interesting to understand the primary reason
Regarding the big screen vote - it is a surprise for me because there are many different devices with big screens and high resolution now.
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But none of the phones have as high quality display as the Note 4.
Battery life.
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Note 5 OR Note 5 edge ?

As Note 5 is around corner and many users always prefer to follow their favorite developer to get developmental support. We know Note4 have almost no support here but looking to S 6 edge success things may be different on note 5.
So request here users and developers to cast their vote
Would you like to go with Note 5 OR Note 5 Edge?
Note 5 Edge? Haven't heard about this one so far.
It will be clear tomorrow (i am not wrong tomorrow is N5 unpacked event) BTW google search reveals many pictures of N5 edge.
http://galaxynote5edge.com
macmobile said:
Note 5 Edge? Haven't heard about this one so far.
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I think the question is about edge or no edge
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I think the question is about edge or no edge
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Exactly.
dr.ketan said:
As Note 5 is around corner and many users always prefer to follow their favorite developer to get developmental support. We know Note4 have almost no support here but looking to S 6 edge success things may be different on note 5.
So request here users and developers to cast their vote
Would you like to go with Note 5 OR Note 5 Edge?
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Waiting for the S7/Note 6; I really want to see how Samsung's custom core SoC performs. Btw you should probably add "none of the above" to the survey.
The GS6 Edge PLUS WOULD be cool, but I keep seeing it has Qualcomm 808. Not sure why Samsung would downgrade, but if they did, I'll get Note 5 with 7422. Now if Samsung got all Apple on us, and use the 7420 in the Note, ill look at the Moto X or maybe the Nexus by Huawei on principle. Making the Note just a bigger Galaxy with spen is like Apple and their "s" releases.
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Note 4/here until something better comes out because N5 and edge aren't it.
No microsd = Note None!
Well, there are different Edge concepts out there. The Note 4 Edge and the S6 Edge. Even if it's less functional I prefer the S6 Edge for aesthetic reasons. Would I buy it? Don't think so.
Note 5, if it has a higher battery or a better backup
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After owning Note 4........I would wait for something better, maybe other brands. Too many issues with Samsung:
- Bloated TWiz
- WTF Knox fuse warrenty
- extremely delayed s/w upgrades
- don't add features to old models, e.g. theme support in note 4
- No removable battery going forward
- No SD card support going forward
- probaly lot more which I can't think of now..
neither
Me neither, gonna stay with my Note 4. Can't miss my removable battery and SD slot.
Maybe it's getting time to let go of samsung and try some other flavors.
Waiting until this afternoon to make my decision. If there is no 4100mAh battery and no MicroSD then neither.
Nexus 6
Let's wait and see which markets the Note 5 will be available at... We may be surprised.
http://www.engadget.com/2015/08/13/samsung-galaxy-note-5-hands-on-preview/
So we basically knew everything already. Sigh, let's hope the note 6 fares better next year. No MicroSD, no swappable battery, no 128Gb version, only 3000mAh battery, etc. This is beyond disappointing.
Bye bye samsung ! No Micro SD, no Battery replacement, no update, Knox fuser !
I'am out !
LOL.
Note 5 has max 64 gb storage. No 128 option xD

Anything similar to the note 4 and 5?

Im planning to upgrade and was wondering if there are any similar phones that are like the note 4 and the 5 . What I'm saying is that I want the latest and greatest device that has great battery life, micro sd slot, removable back, fast charging, a good camera, good software and BEAST specs. LG v10 is a good alternative but only has 3000 mah battery... Also don't like the 2 front cameras, and the secondary screen... It's weirdly useless is someways and, hard to reach.... I mean I would get the note 4 but I don't like the fingerprint scanner it has, the old touchwiz, and it's a year old device. Not sure what to get.. Any suggestions?...
Nothing out there that will match the Note 5 unfortunately.
Nexus 6p?
Nexus 6p has been facing a lot of flak for the quality. In fact I cancelled my pre order for it & it was over a month without confirmed dispatch dates. Also the screen has issues.
I upgraded from Note 4 to Note 5 due to cracked screen. The new Touchwiz is lite. What is important is whether the pen functionality is important for you. I use it as my primary note taking device in meetings.
To make it simple. If you can wait for a bit & dont require pen funtionality the Nexus 6p will be a good choice as they will sort out the build in their coming batches.
Note 5 is the most powerful device right now. I would suggest it over note 4 only because you will get faster update than note 4. Rest device is almost same.
ywnmmsb said:
Nexus 6p has been facing a lot of flak for the quality. In fact I cancelled my pre order for it & it was over a month without confirmed dispatch dates. Also the screen has issues.
I upgraded from Note 4 to Note 5 due to cracked screen. The new Touchwiz is lite. What is important is whether the pen functionality is important for you. I use it as my primary note taking device in meetings.
To make it simple. If you can wait for a bit & dont require pen funtionality the Nexus 6p will be a good choice as they will sort out the build in their coming batches.
Note 5 is the most powerful device right now. I would suggest it over note 4 only because you will get faster update than note 4. Rest device is almost same.
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Thing about 6p is that it uses the snapdragon 810 processor, which is known to have overheating issues.. Speaking of processors; The 820 is almost here. So I'll probably wait and get the s7...
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Thing about 6p is that it uses the snapdragon 810 processor, which is known to have overheating issues.. Speaking of processors; The 820 is almost here. So I'll probably wait and get the s7...
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I tried the 810 in a one plus 2. I never saw any sign of overheating. It looked to me last Le a great platform. I just prefer the Spen and Note Screen so moved up to a note 5. Must sell the OP2 sometime......!
Edit - I should add that the V10 looks interesting to me – I might have gone for it if it weren't for the note 5
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Planning to buy a Galaxy Note 4 in 2016?

hey guys, i need some of your help, i will buy a note 4 in these days, is still worth buying?
If yes, what model? the snapdragon quadcore or the exynos octacore? which of them have more development for stable roms like a note 7 port to the note 4?
Please i need your opinions, thank you
Won't recommend it this late, especially when the likes of OnePlus 3 is out there, sorry. Also there is HTC 10. The only reason you should get the Note 4 is if you are getting it at a really low price. I love my Note 4, but a phone running TouchWiz, well it still runs TouchWiz. But if S Pen is a mandatory thing to you then you can't go anywhere else except the Note 4, that's true too.
Exynos all the way, if you don't wish for them AOSP based ROMs.
I don't agree, this is my fourth Note 4. Thought I could replace it with LG G4, no way. Thougth I could replace it with Oneplus 3, no way. Yeah, The OP3 is snappier, but thats it, everything else is better on Note 4.
OcainD said:
hey guys, i need some of your help, i will buy a note 4 in these days, is still worth buying?
If yes, what model? the snapdragon quadcore or the exynos octacore? which of them have more development for stable roms like a note 7 port to the note 4?
Please i need your opinions, thank you
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I voted yes. I actually just ordered one yesterday, Due to arrive tomorrow. I was between a rock and a hard place when I made my decision. Seeing as the new notes all have a lot of nice features and speed improvement. The reason I decided on the note 4 is of course the note features as compared to other things like the lg g4 the oneplus etc. And my second biggest reason is that it's the last of the note series to have svlte. Meaning if i'm at a store and someone calls me I can still use data without needing wifi. All newer phones "at least on verizon" do not allow this unless you have volte I think. Problem is I use all my phones on prepaid and verizon won't allow prepaid users to use advanced calling. So if you're on verizon prepaid then the note 4 is for you. If you're on contract or just don't care about svlte then I say get a newer note. note 5 major drawbacks to me. no svlte. no sd card. no removable battery. note 7 drawbacks. no removeable battery and still very expensive.
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I voted yes. I actually just ordered one yesterday, Due to arrive tomorrow. I was between a rock and a hard place when I made my decision. Seeing as the new notes all have a lot of nice features and speed improvement. The reason I decided on the note 4 is of course the note features as compared to other things like the lg g4 the oneplus etc. And my second biggest reason is that it's the last of the note series to have svlte. Meaning if i'm at a store and someone calls me I can still use data without needing wifi. All newer phones "at least on verizon" do not allow this unless you have volte I think. Problem is I use all my phones on prepaid and verizon won't allow prepaid users to use advanced calling. So if you're on verizon prepaid then the note 4 is for you. If you're on contract or just don't care about svlte then I say get a newer note. note 5 major drawbacks to me. no svlte. no sd card. no removable battery. note 7 drawbacks. no removeable battery and still very expensive.
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I agree, the only reason why i dont choose the note 5 over the note 4 is for the sd card slot, and i dont get the note 7 becouse it is too way expensive.
I would choose the OP3 over the note 4 of course, but it doesnt have sd card slot, and there is only a variant of 64 gb
And i dont buy phones with mobile contract lol
Ohh and another question, which is the variant tag of the note 4 exynos octacore?
I've had my N910C for about a year now and it's probably the best device I've ever had. I got it shortly last year after the SGS6 series was released and when the specs of the Note 5 were announced. If I do end up upgrading it will probably be to a Note 7 as Note 4 are now very hard to find in brand new condition.
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Ohh and another question, which is the variant tag of the note 4 exynos octacore?
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C and U are the tags which stated that you have a Exynos 5433 Octocore device.
I recently bought a refurb TMo Note 4 that went for cheap to use as a backup phone to my Nexus 6P. The last Samsung phone I had was a S4 and I was disillusioned with Samsung since the S3 and very critical of their software, so I only used Motorola and Nexus since. I have opened many phones brands to see their internals including Huawei, HTC, Motorola, ZTE, Samsung and Apple. I'm never impressed with Samsung internal build quality including this Note 4, which I think is cheap considering how much it cost during release. (My opinion, you don't have to get offended.)
I didn't expected to like the S-Pen features so much, along with multitask and pop out feature. This is pretty important to me, to be able watch a video while doing something else at the same time. I can do this with third party apps on the Nexus, I like the fact it's built in for the Note. With Root, Adaway, Nova Launcher, XPosed (reluctantly) the phone is pretty smooth and while not super snappy as my Nexus 6P, it certainly isn't slow. Another important Samsung feature I like is the Game Tuner and this pretty much eliminate the performance issue since I can play games at 720p/1080p and get good framerates. Again I can lower the screen res on my Nexus as well, except this is built in and it only affect selected apps which is much more convenient. Basically, the Note have all the features I wanted built in that I would have to go through extra steps to make available on my Nexus. Did I mentioned removable battery, sdcard and IR blaster?
The only downside for the phone is the finger print scanner is crap, but Smart Unlock works for me so it's not a problem. Other minor issue is the GPS sucks, I had to open up the phone which scared me a bit actually, but I managed to bend that GPS gold contact point upward a bit, now the signal is great.
So I sold the 6P to pay some bills and using the Note 4 as my daily driver. I think the whole Note 7 recall might work in my favor if it cause the phone price to go down faster, then I might upgrade to the Note 7 rather than getting the the new Google Pixel phone.
I forget to mention T-Mobile WiFi Calling works perfectly and stays connected all the time with this phone, a huge deal. For whatever reason it's always disconnect on the Nexus 6P and with Android 7 update it got worse.
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as Note 4 are now very hard to find in brand new condition.
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Disagree, I recently bought 2x Note 4's for around 260€ a piece plus shipping and both are as new! So if you look around carefully you can find them for a reasonable price in as new condition...
Looking at ebay.de/co.uk and you will find good examples.
I would even go further that if they have some minor scratches on the frame, go and buy yourself a new frame. Replacing the frame is easy as is replacing the display assy...
OcainD said:
hey guys, i need some of your help, i will buy a note 4 in these days, is still worth buying?
If yes, what model? the snapdragon quadcore or the exynos octacore? which of them have more development for stable roms like a note 7 port to the note 4?
Please i need your opinions, thank you
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Hi there,
I voted "YES" too.
I have one already (one Month old) and two more for the rest of the family coming this way. Why you may ask?
I need the S-Pen features, I wan't to be able to replace the battery (switch it in 2 min and 100% battery again), I'm using the SM-N9100 dual sim together with the MicroSD card (can't do that with Note 5 or Note7).
Finally the main reason (Price), I have friends in China that can buy it at 280€ , although locked to China SIM's but with a 10min call (using China SIM) and no problem at all using other Region SIM's ever.
It has a CHC rom (China and English) but using ODIN we can easily load the TGY Multi Language ROM with Gapps (Stock) and not triggering the KNOX warranty flag...
PS: The only downside points (by choosing the DualSIM N9100 version) are :
- The lack or Custom Roms (for example 6.0.1 not yet available "officially" in the TGY variant, maybe a few weeks from now since the CHC is "Finally" out).
- Smaller battery (3000 vs 3220).
- Less storage (16GB vs 32GB).
- Only Snapdragon, no Exynos option for dual sim.
- No FDD LTE band 20, but on the plus side we do have more bands for TDD side (traveling).
but unfortunately I really need the "DualSIM" feature .
PS: In China I saw the non-dual sim version at a even lower price (250€). Imagine buying three units at the same cost of the latest Note7. Can't beat the features/price ratio, especially packed with a amazing 5.7 inch 2K super Amoled screen . And I'm not talking about Refurbishing units.
Thanks,
Regards,
OcainD said:
hey guys, i need some of your help, i will buy a note 4 in these days, is still worth buying?
If yes, what model? the snapdragon quadcore or the exynos octacore? which of them have more development for stable roms like a note 7 port to the note 4?
Please i need your opinions, thank you
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Depends ... the note 4 has a fine hardware, but the software (espacially updates) sucks. The note 4 is the first smartphone I never would get again. Don't get me wrong - really, the hardware is awesome, but the software (even with alternative) is just so bad. I came from a google nexus 2 years back and will get a nexus again.
Also I guess the note 4 won't get any more software updates, after the note 5 and 7 are out by now. I would suggest you wait till google releases their new nexus / pixel phones and look at the 6p then. My wife has the nexus 6p and I'm quite jealous - all that what I wanted the note 4 to be if you dont calc in the missing pen. Even the cam is better then the note 4 IMHO. And it will drop in price then.
Oh, and for what I don't like about the software ... it's slow and hangs from time to time. Also some Apps from Samsung are just bad like SVoice ... google now is much better in comparsion. If you ever used a pure android, you know what I mean. Also the additional apps like FB are something I don't want. Then there's the problem with the knox triggering when rooting (could result in a warranty dismissal) and so on. Or some random restarts with stock firmware (right now stock DBT snapdragon). Or the really bad finger print sensor. The Pen stuff is awesome and the OCR works like magic. But I use it quite rarely so it doesn't outweigh the cons.
Also I couldn't find any alternative rom that was working for me (too much stuff in it, too slow, to instabile, you name it) or with cm the health sensors not working and some other samsung stuff.
And to be a bit more clear, after I had some other samsung devices in my hands ... never again a samsung for me personally. Only the best phones get updates for more then like 6 months and new features don't reach the phones ever. Also it seems like there are 20 software engineering camps withing samsung, all working against each other...
But really, this is my personal, strong subjective feeling about the phone - if you like it or not, depends on how it works for you. For me there are too many things that anger me, mostly small things like I mentioned above. Might be it's different for you. Read some more reviews on amazon, even the bad ones.
You could set your priorities and then decide, OP.
Hardware: Note 4 is still decent, but much newer chipset and better chipset are out there.
Software: As far as TouchWiz goes, no comment there. But with a little bit of tweaking (by choosing performance over battery) you could the nice enough performance. But never to the level of HTC 10 and OnePlus 3. Read Anand's review of Note 7 and see the section where they compared the frame rates with HTC 10. TouchWiz lags mate, its as simple as that.
Camera + Display: Display is excellent, and camera is decent enough too.
S Pen: No competition there, again.
Build: Note 4 is the very LAST phone in Samsung's lineup where Samsung used practical materials to come up with a mobile phone. Now all of them are jewellery.
Price: Like I said in my previous comment, if you could get it at good price, which is somewhere around 25-30% lower than OnePlus 3's then "maybe" you could get it.
The note 4 is still a great device I still have my tmo 910t device i just ordered the 910c for exynos which is a little snappier than the snapdragon all the devices in my sig. i still own and use but for a few. I haven't added another note 5c and s6 edge plus to my sig yet. But the note 4 will keep up with those other devices for the age. if you want a loud ringing phone note 4 is it.. The note 5 isnt as loud as the note 4 or the note 3 for that matter..
I currently have a Note 4 on the Verizon network.. Plus it is snapper than most, plus it can handle anything I throw at it app wise.. Never over heats or crahses.. The Note 5 and seven both have none removal batteries, and that is a draw back for me.. Plus it still has volte, and the newer ones do not.. I also have the Droid Turbo on Verizon.. What I do not like, is before I installed a custom rom, the battery would drain, and constantly needed to be charge.. Plus it would over heat a lot and freeze.. I would consider another Note 4 if I needed one.. But when the Note 4 is payed off, I plan on getting any Samsung device or another brand all together.. It will depend on price, and development..

Is note 8 worth it in 2018(July)

So simple question is note 8 would be worth it i am upgrading from my old s5 or should i wait for note 9 or s10
From S5 coming, e.g. note 4 it's worth to upgrade,too. [emoji28]
If you have enough time, you also can wait for note 11 or S12. they will be even better
The note 8 it's an "up to date" high performance device. But in the smartphone section a 1 year old device is an old device .......*crazy world*.
If you have enough money for a few new features and want an 1 year more up to date device, wait for the upcoming devices.
Every new coming device will be a little bit more faster or better as the predecessor model........ every year!
Greetings, Logel
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But how should we know if you should wait for the note 9 or s10 ? We don't know what you want or need. All we know till now are rumors, nobody knows how the end product will be. So you can check those rumors yourself. And for the note 8 there are tons of reviews out there, so be sure to check them out too and decide what you need or want. It's really pointless that we discuss here what is already all over the web. Just my opinion.
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I recently bought a Note 8 as it was an amazing price. Dual sim, 64gb midnight black colour, only 540 EURO, brand new. Considering it cost almost double that when released, it was amazing value. 95% as fast as a Note 9. You can see on Youtube the speed test, even faster than iphone X in most cases.
Note 8 with the Exynos processor is a BEAST. If you can purchase the Note 8 for a good amount, go and buy one. You won't be dissapointed. It is VERY fast especially with a custom kernel and rom.
Logel said:
From S5 coming, e.g. note 4 it's worth to upgrade,too. [emoji28]
If you have enough time, you also can wait for note 11 or S12. they will be even better
The note 8 it's an "up to date" high performance device. But in the smartphone section a 1 year old device is an old device .......*crazy world*.
If you have enough money for a few new features and want an 1 year more up to date device, wait for the upcoming devices.
Every new coming device will be a little bit more faster or better as the predecessor model........ every year!
Greetings, Logel
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Hhhh i know s5 is very old but i heard some rumors that note 9 won't that different than note 8 i just got an offer for 570$ note8 dual sim international and i think that's good however thanks for reply
kanej2006 said:
I recently bought a Note 8 as it was an amazing price. Dual sim, 64gb midnight black colour, only 540 EURO, brand new. Considering it cost almost double that when released, it was amazing value. 95% as fast as a Note 9. You can see on Youtube the speed test, even faster than iphone X in most cases.
Note 8 with the Exynos processor is a BEAST. If you can purchase the Note 8 for a good amount, go and buy one. You won't be dissapointed. It is VERY fast especially with a custom kernel and rom.
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Thanks a lot i have got an offer for note 8 dual sim 570$ so according to your reply it is really great deal
I was forced to upgrade from my Note 4 N910C to the Note 8 N950N with 256GB of internal storage a few months ago, and I have to say that is probably my best purchase of this year! As my N950N is a beast of a device and will run anything without any issues whatsoever. The camera takes excellent shots, which are just as good as those taken on my N910C.
I would definitely wait for the Note 9
Much better battery life expected with the 4000 mah battery.
Also a few nice tricks with the S pen.
You would regret your purchase if you end up buying the Note 8 especially when the 9 is just around the corner
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You should absolutely buy it... It's a one time investment phone from my perspective.. It has everything you need in a premium phone... (telling you after using it for 8months)
dieselhazza said:
I would definitely wait for the Note 9
Much better battery life expected with the 4000 mah battery.
Also a few nice tricks with the S pen.
You would regret your purchase if you end up buying the Note 8 especially when the 9 is just around the corner
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Pure speculation. You don't know the Note9 will have a 4000mah battery or even what new features the S-Pen will have.
I think the Note8 is the best device I've ever had and probably will be for a while to come. I doubt the Note9 will offer anything of worth to me.
I'd wait to see a couple of price-points about the Note 9 first. The first one is obviously phone's cost. It's likely to be 1K. Is that worth it for the dual speakers and larger battery? Bear in mind screen is bigger and brighter so I'd be wary to assume battery life will be significantly better.
Then there is that upgraded pen. OK it's got bluetooth in it. But how much is that going to cost to replace now? At least with the N8 you can use N7 pens and they are relatively cheap.
dieselhazza said:
I would definitely wait for the Note 9
Much better battery life expected with the 4000 mah battery.
Also a few nice tricks with the S pen.
You would regret your purchase if you end up buying the Note 8 especially when the 9 is just around the corner
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And it will be almost a 1200$ phone while note 8 is under 600$
AmirPriNcE1 said:
So simple question is note 8 would be worth it i am upgrading from my old s5 or should i wait for note 9 or s10
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If you could put up with the satisfactory Battery Life and the lack of dual speakers , this device is definitely worth your money !!
If you can afford to wait, then kindly do wait and check the Note 9 before making the final decision as the announce date for Note 9 is less than a month away.
Cheers !!
Max_Terrible said:
Pure speculation. You don't know the Note9 will have a 4000mah battery or even what new features the S-Pen will have.
I think the Note8 is the best device I've ever had and probably will be for a while to come. I doubt the Note9 will offer anything of worth to me.
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Someone is cut haha.
I had the Note 8 and returned it as it had poor battery and wasn't fluid due to touchwiz. I wouldn't give more than 500 to 600 for the Note 8 especially when you know the Note 9 is out in a couple of weeks. You will regret purchasing the Note 8 for sure.
Wait for the Note 9 aa it will have great internal upgrades making it worth while.
The Note 8 has a 3300mah battery which is a laugh on its own on a phone with 6.3 inch display.
I suggest you wait and make the ideal purchase
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Someone is cut haha.
I had the Note 8 and returned it as it had poor battery and wasn't fluid due to touchwiz. I wouldn't give more than 500 to 600 for the Note 8 especially when you know the Note 9 is out in a couple of weeks. You will regret purchasing the Note 8 for sure.
Wait for the Note 9 aa it will have great internal upgrades making it worth while.
The Note 8 has a 3200mah battery which is a laugh on its own on a phone with 6.3 inch display.
I suggest you wait and make the ideal purchase
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lol I wish it had a bigger battery too. Considering it's size.
dieselhazza said:
Someone is cut haha.
I had the Note 8 and returned it as it had poor battery and wasn't fluid due to touchwiz. I wouldn't give more than 500 to 600 for the Note 8 especially when you know the Note 9 is out in a couple of weeks. You will regret purchasing the Note 8 for sure.
Wait for the Note 9 aa it will have great internal upgrades making it worth while.
The Note 8 has a 3200mah battery which is a laugh on its own on a phone with 6.3 inch display.
I suggest you wait and make the ideal purchase
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3300 mah
A device is worthy depending 0n what it will cost, and what you expect to obtain, pure an simple , note 8 devices are droping their prices, the difference in price against a note 9 may be some 300 dlls or more , so in the end it is a matter 0f the kind of money you are willing to pay…. And what you expect to obtain…
winol said:
A device is worthy depending 0n what it will cost, and what you expect to obtain, pure an simple , note 8 devices are droping their prices, the difference in price against a note 9 may be some 300 dlls or more , so in the end it is a matter 0f the kind of money you are willing to pay…. And what you expect to obtain…
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You are missing the point.
Most people buy the Note range over the Samsung S series for the added benefit S pen, bigger screen and business usage.
In other words it should last much longer than others
im also going to probably buy a exynos note 8 tomorrow. i have a s9 plus but the battery life is pretty terrible and there at least root for the note 8.
According to all phone companies it's worth the upgrade no matter the year shut up and give them your money lol

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