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I love the pure Google experience but internal memory and battery capacity of Nexus 5 is just killing me. I would go for G2, but I heard it struggles with poor internal memory performance. Can anyone confirm it with KK onboard? My N5 is .84 rw. Which one has better community support? I would probably flash cm/omni. And Im considering 16GB Z1 vs 32GB G2. I like the feeling of N5, and that's why Im a bit scared of Z1 huge frame, but stable and fully functional pure Google is the most important for me.
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I love the pure Google experience but internal memory and battery capacity of Nexus 5 is just killing me. I would go for G2, but I heard it struggles with poor internal memory performance. Can anyone confirm it with KK onboard? My N5 is .84 rw. Which one has better community support? I would probably flash cm/omni. And Im considering 16GB Z1 vs 32GB G2. I like the feeling of N5, and that's why Im a bit scared of Z1 huge frame, but stable and fully functional pure Google is the most important for me.
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Do you care about horrible viewing angles? I mean horrible.
As long as they are not worse than in my TFT desktop monitor, I'm fine with that. Are they worse than in Xperia S? Cause those are almost unacceptable.
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I came from Experia Z and truly don't go for a Z model, screen is horrible, camera is horrible "noise!", battery more horrible than N5. Don't do it!. Today I bought a additional battery for my N5 which easy to replace..
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Wait for the Z2
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As long as they are not worse than in my TFT desktop monitor, I'm fine with that. Are they worse than in Xperia S? Cause those are almost unacceptable.
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They're worse. The Z2 fixed that though. It also has a much better camera algorithm. The z1 is full of noise.
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Wait for the Z2
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I think Z1 is great
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The only horrible thing is the community, that writes crap about this nice device every time ...
I can tell you (with many hours of testing Z1, G2, S4, etc. that the Z1 is by far the best device out of the top devices at the moment... for sure you will have to know, what you are doing (and seemingly no one here does) ... i'm a photograph and have to say that the camera is brilliant (for a mobile camera) ... you just have to choose manual iso and such things, cause the automatic is (as always at EVERY camera) not the best for all situations ... e.g. if you shoot pics at night, the automatic mode gains the iso to maximum ... this will for sure make you able to shoot pictures that look like at evenig, not at night, but will gain the noise to a max ... if you choose wisely (e.g ISO 400) at night shots and hold the camera still you will get good pictures ...
i may upload a few examples today or tomorrow ..
the display: Yes, it is not such a good viewing angle as on new IPS-Panels or something ... BUT ... do you want everyone in a train e.g. be able to look and read everything on your display? Me not ... It's important to have enough angle to watch videos or look at photos (espacially for me) without getting wrong colors or something ... and THAT is what the Z1 does ...not more, but not less ...
so why is the z1 better than evey other mobile available?!
- it's water resistant (and yes, i testet it half an hour fully under water) ...
- its aluminium frame with saphire glass on both sides (yes it is) gives it a nice finish (im sure you can even let it fall on a stone without braking it, but not tested - it just falls periodically from my table on the carpet - ca 1m - and is still alive )
- the dev community is good
- the battery life is the longest for those cpus and displays
- the camera is awsome
- the display (triluminos) is brilliant with true colors, good contrast, etc ...
- sony delivers good support
- the sound that comes out of this mobile (even with just the headset in the package) is amazingly brilliant - with good earphones it's for sure the best i ever heard (sony has much experience cause of the walkman devices and such things ...)
- it comes out of the box with very cool features such as the stamina mode (wich works brilliant - no need for any other battery apps or task killers) or the ability to bind an DualShock-Controller to the mobile for gaming e.g. ... and much more ...
so enough said .. haters will allways hate ... but i will never give my z1 away ... it's the best phone i ever head in my hands (and i've had more then enough) ...mybe the z2 will be the replacement for the z1 in a while ... but at the moment there is nothing better available ...
EHHHM .. just to be clear ... im reporting about the standard german nonbranded C6903 .. i heard that some other countrys and models may have other display panels and may be worse than the "normal" device ... don't know, what is exactly true about this .. i can only tell you something about German unbranded C6903 which is mine and the mobile of 2 friends of me .. all working without problems ...
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mnickkk said:
I love the pure Google experience but internal memory and battery capacity of Nexus 5 is just killing me. I would go for G2, but I heard it struggles with poor internal memory performance. Can anyone confirm it with KK onboard? My N5 is .84 rw. Which one has better community support? I would probably flash cm/omni. And Im considering 16GB Z1 vs 32GB G2. I like the feeling of N5, and that's why Im a bit scared of Z1 huge frame, but stable and fully functional pure Google is the most important for me.
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I have the Z1, but the only reason I went for it instead of the G2 is because I need more than 32GB storage and I care about the materials / build quality of a product a lot. I guess if those things are important to you, go for the Z1, otherwise the G2 is probably better than the Z1 in every way really (especially the display and the size of phone to size of screen ratio. Z1 has HUGE bezels)
DJ_Synergy said:
The only horrible thing is the community, that writes crap about this nice device every time ...
I can tell you (with many hours of testing Z1, G2, S4, etc. that the Z1 is by far the best device out of the top devices at the moment... for sure you will have to know, what you are doing (and seemingly no one here does) ... i'm a photograph and have to say that the camera is brilliant (for a mobile camera) ... you just have to choose manual iso and such things, cause the automatic is (as always at EVERY camera) not the best for all situations ... e.g. if you shoot pics at night, the automatic mode gains the iso to maximum ... this will for sure make you able to shoot pictures that look like at evenig, not at night, but will gain the noise to a max ... if you choose wisely (e.g ISO 400) at night shots and hold the camera still you will get good pictures ...
i may upload a few examples today or tomorrow ..
the display: Yes, it is not such a good viewing angle as on new IPS-Panels or something ... BUT ... do you want everyone in a train e.g. be able to look and read everything on your display? Me not ... It's important to have enough angle to watch videos or look at photos (espacially for me) without getting wrong colors or something ... and THAT is what the Z1 does ...not more, but not less ...
so why is the z1 better than evey other mobile available?!
- it's water resistant (and yes, i testet it half an hour fully under water) ...
- its aluminium frame with saphire glass on both sides (yes it is) gives it a nice finish (im sure you can even let it fall on a stone without braking it, but not tested - it just falls periodically from my table on the carpet - ca 1m - and is still alive )
- the dev community is good
- the battery life is the longest for those cpus and displays
- the camera is awsome
- the display (triluminos) is brilliant with true colors, good contrast, etc ...
- sony delivers good support
- the sound that comes out of this mobile (even with just the headset in the package) is amazingly brilliant - with good earphones it's for sure the best i ever heard (sony has much experience cause of the walkman devices and such things ...)
- it comes out of the box with very cool features such as the stamina mode (wich works brilliant - no need for any other battery apps or task killers) or the ability to bind an DualShock-Controller to the mobile for gaming e.g. ... and much more ...
so enough said .. haters will allways hate ... but i will never give my z1 away ... it's the best phone i ever head in my hands (and i've had more then enough) ...mybe the z2 will be the replacement for the z1 in a while ... but at the moment there is nothing better available ...
EHHHM .. just to be clear ... im reporting about the standard german nonbranded C6903 .. i heard that some other countrys and models may have other display panels and may be worse than the "normal" device ... don't know, what is exactly true about this .. i can only tell you something about German unbranded C6903 which is mine and the mobile of 2 friends of me .. all working without problems ...
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Well, I do not think there is anything more to say :good:
Why everyone is complaining about Z1?
I have a Z1 and i LOVE IT!
Ok, my first impression wasnt the best (touch issues), but i replace it and now its perfect!
My battery can hold for 2 days with wifi and 4g the entire time, twitter, facebook, email, linkedin, everything connected and i play on my free times. TWO DAYS!
I dont have any problem with the angle because i dont use my phone looking from the sides (who do this?) when i use it the screen is in front of me, so not a problem.
Its water resistent, do you need more? (oh, but i dont live inside a pool bla bla bla, neither me, but is something to consider on a top end phone).
Performance is unbelievable! Im using stock ROM from Sony and is fast, stable, beautiful.
The camera is noisy? Yes, but ONLY on AUTO mode, change to MANUAL and do some basic camera ajustments, you will see a new camera, very clear photos even at night.
Internal storage 16gb, yes, this is crap, but i have 12 games installed and more 2gb of music without a SD Card, so all depends on your use.
So if you want a perfect phone, buy the Z1 or the brand new Z2, both of the phones are incredible!
I also agree.
I sold a Galaxy S4 and caught a Z1 and do not regret it.
I Make excellent pictures in Manual mode (the best camera on a smartphone).
Viewing angles never bothered me, so I usually look at the screen from the front.
Quality construction and water resistance = Perfect!
Excellent battery life.
G2 / N5 = plastic phones, no sdcard slot, no real good cameras, no water resistant, no great battery life.
Conclusion: Today, Z1 is the best option. If you can wait, buy a Z2 or HTC One 2 (M8). These will be better than Z1. :laugh:
I would say the technical best devices are the HTC One or the Xperia Z series. If you compare the Z, Z1 and Z2 the differences are minimal. Because of that you can decide by the amount of money you want to spend for a mobile phone. I am sure after the Z2 reaches the market, the prices for Z and Z1 will be lowered.
marciozh said:
I also agree.
I sold a Galaxy S4 and caught a Z1 and do not regret it.
I Make excellent pictures in Manual mode (the best camera on a smartphone).
Viewing angles never bothered me, so I usually look at the screen from the front.
Quality construction and water resistance = Perfect!
Excellent battery life.
G2 / N5 = plastic phones, no sdcard slot, no real good cameras, no water resistant, no great battery life.
Conclusion: Today, Z1 is the best option. If you can wait, buy a Z2 or HTC One 2 (M8). These will be better than Z1. :laugh:
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G2 has great battery life. probably on par or even better than Z1.
DJ_Synergy said:
so why is the z1 better than evey other mobile available?!
- it's water resistant (and yes, i testet it half an hour fully under water) ...
- its aluminium frame with saphire glass on both sides (yes it is) gives it a nice finish (im sure you can even let it fall on a stone without braking it, but not tested - it just falls periodically from my table on the carpet - ca 1m - and is still alive )
- the dev community is good
- the battery life is the longest for those cpus and displays
- the camera is awsome
- the display (triluminos) is brilliant with true colors, good contrast, etc ...
- sony delivers good support
- the sound that comes out of this mobile (even with just the headset in the package) is amazingly brilliant - with good earphones it's for sure the best i ever heard (sony has much experience cause of the walkman devices and such things ...)
- it comes out of the box with very cool features such as the stamina mode (wich works brilliant - no need for any other battery apps or task killers) or the ability to bind an DualShock-Controller to the mobile for gaming e.g. ... and much more ...
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few things i'd like to reply on:
first a few things that are not quite right:
display:
the triluminos display may seem brilliant, but is has it downsides. for those who are in this stuff, this video is pretty nice. well aside from that, it just has to look good right? wich it, in my opinion, does.
sound:
well yeah, with headphones it's definitly something, but without? ouch...
screen:
it's dragontail glass not saphire glass (source)
positive:
camera:
the camera is excellent IF you know how to use it. The G2 does decent pictures without questions, but they are heavily post processed. It may not be visible for the normal user, but if you're in that photo stuff the z1 should do better.
take a look at this page for further information.
but this should all be in vain, because those are stock roms, who really knows how the perform on custom roms?
battery:
it's huge. i came from Xperia S what lasted about 10 Hours with my usage. The Z1 easily gets over 2 Days with wifi, gps, mobile allways on. Additionally i receive quite a few push messages.
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i love my Z1
owned both (Z1 & G2) and I would definitely recommend the G2
Both are good phones...and I was in the exact same position choosing between the G2 and Z1. Yes the Z1 can have images with noise but I've managed to get a good technique with all the tips from XDA members...people are always complementing my Z1 camera
Ultimately it's down to what you want;
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I love the pure Google experience but internal memory and battery capacity of Nexus 5 is just killing me. I would go for G2, but I heard it struggles with poor internal memory performance. Can anyone confirm it with KK onboard? My N5 is .84 rw. Which one has better community support? I would probably flash cm/omni. And Im considering 16GB Z1 vs 32GB G2. I like the feeling of N5, and that's why Im a bit scared of Z1 huge frame, but stable and fully functional pure Google is the most important for me.
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So if you want custom roms the G2 is hands down the winner compared to the Z1 with a permanently locked bootloader (i.e. not unlockable). However if you can get a unlockable Z1 it's about even. If not the stock Z1 is still really good and very close to pure google experience once you root and clean things up with titanium backup.
If I could choose again I would probably go for the G2 since I prefer messing around with custom roms (although I would miss the solid premium feel the Z1 has...so maybe I'd try harder to source an unlockable Z1 :silly: ).
I was hesitating about the same thing, G2 vs Z1. I was almost sold for the G2, it was pretty nice at test (swipe gestures and tap screen are very user-friendly).
But finally I got my Z1 form my carrier, thinking that if it was not good for me I could sell it at a big price and buy a G2 instead. I never went this way. Testing a Z1 and owning a Z1 are 2 different worlds, this phone has just blown my mind.
Also had an accident with Coca and my phone held out for 30 minutes without any problem, I just washed it under a shower, cleaned it with my shirt. Way to go!
And I'm a music addict. Just check the two topics I've opened lately. All about sound. The Z1 is by far the best out there with Qualcomm DAC, implementation is perfect. Zero noise, zero distortion, power, lively music, responsive EQ, it is worth the experience.
I will definitely not trade my Z1 for a LG G2. Though the last one is an amazing phone and I recommend it, if you have money to chose either the Z1 or the G2, Z1 is the way to go. I don't know the Z2. If it does eveythign the same way or better than the Z1, it's a WIN-WIN situation.
Ah, I run stock ROM, haven't looked after root yet, nor bootloader stuff etc.
Hi all. I currently have a Samsung Galaxy S3 and I'm thinking about buying the Xperia Z3 Compact. Everything about the phone seems great, but with Sony's bi-annual update cycle, I'm not sure what to do. Is it worth it to wait another 3 or so months for a yet unannounced Z4 compact? Or pull the trigger on this?
Thank you.
I don't think z4 will have great improvements.. I have a z3 compact and its great..
There is no official word about a z4 compact
Go for it man! I doubt you'll ever be half satisfied with this. I've had this since December and i'm only loving it more and more
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Z4 Compact? Z2 Compact has never been released, IMVHO the next compact phone will be Z5C
Dsteppa said:
There is no official word about a z4 compact
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Yeah, I know. Just trying to think ahead, but at the rate technology is moving, there's no way to keep up. Thank you very much all. I'll make the purchase. Like I said, I've only seen great things about this device.
Bzow said:
Yeah, I know. Just trying to think ahead, but at the rate technology is moving, there's no way to keep up. Thank you very much all. I'll make the purchase. Like I said, I've only seen great things about this device.
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The difference between the Z1 and Z3 compact are pretty minimal tbh
Dsteppa said:
There is no official word about a z4 compact
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yea so far there're only rumors and i'm quite happy with the Z3 compact. i think you should go for the Z3 compact if you really like it.
Dsteppa said:
The difference between the Z1 and Z3 compact are pretty minimal tbh
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i have owned both of the devices. my old Z1 compact was stolen 4 months ago (damn the thief). so i've been using the Z3 compact for 4 months.
honestly the performance does have some difference. you can clearly feel the Z3 compact is more smooth. but if you are not super sensitive then both devices are good.
another thing is the Z1 compact has the metal frame around. it feels much sturdy and real. while Z3 compact has it changed to plastic. it still looks good. but feels a bit differently. however, the Z3 compact has the glass back cover. even though it doesn't feel much difference comparing to the Z1 compact... i can't tell the back cover of Z1 compact is actually plastic.
so all in all.. from Z1c to Z3c it's for sure a progress. but not too much.
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yea so far there're only rumors and i'm quite happy with the Z3 compact. i think you should go for the Z3 compact if you really like it.
i have owned both of the devices. my old Z1 compact was stolen 4 months ago (damn the thief). so i've been using the Z3 compact for 4 months.
honestly the performance does have some difference. you can clearly feel the Z3 compact is more smooth. but if you are not super sensitive then both devices are good.
another thing is the Z1 compact has the metal frame around. it feels much sturdy and real. while Z3 compact has it changed to plastic. it still looks good. but feels a bit differently. however, the Z3 compact has the glass back cover. even though it doesn't feel much difference comparing to the Z1 compact... i can't tell the back cover of Z1 compact is actually plastic.
so all in all.. from Z1c to Z3c it's for sure a progress. but not too much.
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The display is MUCH better on z3c. My brother has a z1c and the colours on z3c are far better
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Furthermore there are different return policies in different countries. Means you can return it in a certain period of time if you dont like it depending on your country and your retail selling policy.
The phone may not shine in every area but it definitely has its strong sides as regards battery, raw power, size , the ability to withstand water and the easy upgradeable storage space with a micro sd. The dedicated camera button i also find a nice addition.
Downsides are the reported awful customer service (also dependant on your reseller, so read the return policies carefully) , the non replaceable battery and the somehow fragile feeling this phone gives. But this can be solved with a case or the choice of a good protection plan. The camera is as good as expected, not outstanding but not terribly bad either. If i want to shoot good photos I would not use a smartphone anyway. Also if you are a heavy multimedia consumer you might want to check out bigger phones. At last the inbuilt flashlight is pretty weak. So if you want to use your phone as a flashlight you might want to look another way also .
The Iphone 5s is really the only contester worth comparing it to, but i would choose android over ios always. If you dont care about this and need the same one handed usability (this ofc also depends on your hand size )then the 5s might be worth a look.
Now with root available with locked BL i would always recommend this phone no matter what. When it runs it runs fast, reliable and efficient and will get you through a day of heavy or 3 days of light/moderate usage. Which is the main and most important point for me.
I own the phone for 4 months now and never ran into a problem which could not be solved. I would not buy a different one.
Went from Galaxy S3 to Z3 Compact. Couldn't have asked for anything better really
Well i took the plunge and bought the Orange Z3 compact, even after reading some of these threads on some of the faults. I have come from a HTC M8, and i must say, this Z3, is one of the best phones i have ever had, the size of the phone is perfect for me, i never liked big phones, they seemed a bit silly for me.
I am still on stock, i haven't rooted the Z3, but i did root all my previous phones, and in all honestly rooting this phone is the last thing on my mind, it is brilliant as it is, lighting fast, and there is more customization, than any previous phone i have had.
And NO i am not a Sony Fanboy, neither am i being paid by Sony, These are my thoughts, i am so glad i did buy this phone, only thing i miss is a decent weather widget.
So all in all , best thing to do is check the phone out for yourself, then only you can make your decision, never let any one make the decision for you.
Can only confirm the above posts - also coming from a S3. I can promise you - even if you don't root the Z3 right away you will not turn on your S3 anymore. The Z3 outperforms the S3 by a landslide and (in my opinion) even the current, bigger and more expensive "flagships" from other companies by some degree.
My only "mistake" was not looking here before buying it, it was an impulse buy mainly because of the form factor and pure specs (SD card a big one, too). Was a bit annoyed because of not being able to root, actually with the Z3 it was the longest time I spent with an unrooted device ever. But: the positives outweighed the negatives and in the end root is finally available, making this device even better than it is with stock firmware. I'm also happy the constant chase for "the best" custom ROM is finally over, can't imagine how I could ever bare the hassle I had with previous phones/tablets. Stock is just fine and the Z3 does what it is supposed to.
As for the other problems mentioned in these forums:
- front/back glass breaking sponteanously: I use a tempered glass screen protector for the display, nothing for the back. the phone sits in a no name TPU case, I only had to put some work to the slot for the magnetic charger. No cracks whatsoever (yet) - and I'm known to be a magnet for disaster...
- flash LED: compared to your S3 you will probably think: "hey, is this thing really on ??"
It really is weak, but then again - if you need a reliable light, get a Maglite with some batteries to spare. This is a phone. In most cases I use a simple app that simply turns the screen on white at full brightness, that's more than enough for my taste.
- being slippery/attracting dirt: yes. Especially the black one if you intend to use it without a case. It's my first phone that rests constantly in a case, otherwise I would be pushing my luck... I would try to get the white or red one if you can't stand smudges when using it without a case.
- speaker quality: well, look at the size... it ain't good, but not too bad either.
- camera: as mentioned before, not brilliant, but not crap too (even with unlocked BL). It's ok for snapshots mostly.
Biggest pros as mentioned: performance, battery life and (after rooting) full use of the SD card combined with small size and a all in all great display. Being "waterproof" is an added bonus - though I would never take it to the shower or otherwise test this - I just hope it survives the occasional heavy rainstorms I get caught in from time to time when out with the dogs.
I did not regret buying it without contract for the full price.
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Schumi 01 said:
i am so glad i did buy this phone, only thing i miss is a decent weather widget.
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Well, OT :
there are millions of weather apps/widgets out there, I always come back to:
- Arcus Weather
- Weather Timeline
- Weather Pro
Currently I'm using weather pro as this is (at least for me for my region of Germany) the most precise one and I got some play store credit for my chromecast so I gave it a try for a year of pro usage. Not disappointed so far !
The other two are pretty solid, too.
Howlbeck said:
Well, OT :
there are millions of weather apps/widgets out there, I always come back to:
- Arcus Weather
- Weather Timeline
- Weather Pro
Currently I'm using weather pro as this is (at least for me for my region of Germany) the most precise one and I got some play store credit for my chromecast so I gave it a try for a year of pro usage. Not disappointed so far !
The other two are pretty solid, too.
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Thanks will check them out. :good:
Rumors Z4C, it was from a reliable place. Don't remember now, but well see in MWC next month
4.7" screen
3GB ram
Sexier then Z3C, which is sexier then Z1C
Open USB and Jack, still IP68 rated
Qualcomm 810 cat. 9
Quad or Octa core, don't remember.
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shafiq01 said:
3GB ram
Sexier then Z3C, which is sexier then Z1C
Open USB and Jack, still IP68 rated
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Well, that would be an improvement. 3 gigs ?
Never understood why the Z3c can be waterproof whilst relying on flaps when the jack is open... ?
shafiq01 said:
Rumors Z4C, it was from a reliable place. Don't remember now, but well see in MWC next month
4.7" screen
3GB ram
Sexier then Z3C, which is sexier then Z1C
Open USB and Jack, still IP68 rated
Qualcomm 810 cat. 9
Quad or Octa core, don't remember.
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To be honest, I don't think there'll be a Z4C for quite a while as from what I've heard Sony is planning to change their release schedule, to one highend phone per year. Mainly because that is what certain customers want and that Sonys budget ain't that good right now. Developing a new phone costs a ton of money.
Also, please tell me what that source is as this sounds like fake and unjustified rumors.
Just dropped in for some Thread Cleaning.
Folks, if you don't like a post somebody else has made, and, feel it may violate XDA rules, then just "Report Post" instead of replying to it, and creating multiple posts back and forth that a Mod will have to come in and clean.
Simple enough?
Nothing else to see here.....
Sptz said:
Went from Galaxy S3 to Z3 Compact. Couldn't have asked for anything better really
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Same here [emoji106]
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GethPrime said:
To be honest, I don't think there'll be a Z4C for quite a while as from what I've heard Sony is planning to change their release schedule, to one highend phone per year. Mainly because that is what certain customers want and that Sonys budget ain't that good right now. Developing a new phone costs a ton of money.
Also, please tell me what that source is as this sounds like fake and unjustified rumors.
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If these rumors are true, then maybe they will launch their last compact model, before retiring.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/ewanspence/2015/02/18/sonys-smartphone-surrender-abandoning-the-xperia/
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shafiq01 said:
If these rumors are true, then maybe they will launch their last compact model, before retiring.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/ewanspence/2015/02/18/sonys-smartphone-surrender-abandoning-the-xperia/
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And the before mentioned rumor, I think it could be reliable, gsmarena.com usually hit spot on. Maybe its not true??
http://m.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_z4_gets_certified_by_japanese_wireless_authority-news-10798.php
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As compared to the Xperia SP. Please don't compare the Xperia Z with the other devices please. Tell me what's bad and good. I am interested in hearing the community thoughts here. Also, how much of a difference are the Stock ROMs and Custom ROMs? And do you think that there should be more development for the Xperia Z.
Thanks
Furrydaus said:
As compared to the Xperia SP. Please don't compare the Xperia Z with the other devices please. Tell me what's bad and good. I am interested in hearing the community thoughts here. Also, how much of a difference are the Stock ROMs and Custom ROMs? And do you think that there should be more development for the Xperia Z.
Thanks
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Pros:
-big 1080p display(5 inches)
-High-resolution display (1080 x 1920 pixels)
-Extremely high pixel density screen, over 430ppi
-Quad core processor
-Lots of RAM (2048 MB RAM)
-Fast mobile data support (4G)
-Waterproof
Cons:
-Fingerprint magnet
-Off-angle display is poor
Best phone i ever had the performance is amazing it may lag some times but it never fails to impress. The software updates take a while to reach it but i guess this is a problem for all xperia devices. As for the XperiaUI for me is the best minimalistic design ever its close to stock android but without those ugly icons.
But if you have the money i would suggest you buy a xperia z2 or z3
Hope it helps you
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As compared to the Xperia SP. Please don't compare the Xperia Z with the other devices please. Tell me what's bad and good. I am interested in hearing the community thoughts here. Also, how much of a difference are the Stock ROMs and Custom ROMs? And do you think that there should be more development for the Xperia Z.
Thanks
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The Z is starting to get a little old though so if you have the money you might want to go for the Z1 or higher as there is a chance of it still getting android M as well!
I had an Xperia sp before as well and I'm happy with my Z1 the only problem is that I bricked it, and sony replaced the motherboard with a faulty one so I will have to send it back :/
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I having my Xperia z for about 2 years now
I don't recommend buying Xperia Z
Cons/Problems I have with my Z:
1- The sim card slot is annoying. Fortunately I don't have to change my sim card for a long time until I travel to another country or decide to change carrier
2- Yes Xperia Z has big ram, good processor and good performance but the problem is that it produces much heat. Doing a multitasks in background like playing a game, then switch to watch a video then surf the Web produce a fairly heat that burns your hand and force you sometimes to decide putting it into the refrigerator
3- Destroys your SD card: When I copy any file to external SD card, It becomes corrupted suddenly or disappeares. Then after a short period the SD card will be unusable. And the problem proceeds when you put the SD card in another device or to computer with card reader, It will also make corrupted files.
(Tested with 3 SD cards 2gb, 32gb and 64gb sandisk. All are destroyed :'(
Even if you format it will still be unusable (I got this problem with the kitkat update. I was fine at jealy bean)
4- Now with the lollipop update new problem is added to the list and nothing fixed: My Z is now randomly shutting down during the usage. The only time it doesn't when it's connected to the charger.
I confirm that it's not a battery problem because my battery is good and I can turn the Z on again after the shutdown without charging. I was fine before lollipop
5- It is charging slowly. Takes about three hours to full charge from zero. When used heavily while charging, It will discharge faster than it's charging
Now I am planning to install a custom rom to see if I can avoid these annoying problems
Those are more than enough reasons that will make my next phone htc probably or Samsung which I disliked at first but now I seem to like them much much more
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I having my Xperia z for about 2 years now
I don't recommend buying Xperia Z
Cons/Problems I have with my Z:
1- The sim card slot is annoying. Fortunately I don't have to change my sim card for a long time until I travel to another country or decide to change carrier
2- Yes Xperia Z has big ram, good processor and good performance but the problem is that it produces much heat. Doing a multitasks in background like playing a game, then switch to watch a video then surf the Web produce a fairly heat that burns your hand and force you sometimes to decide putting it into the refrigerator
3- Destroys your SD card: When I copy any file to external SD card, It becomes corrupted suddenly or disappeares. Then after a short period the SD card will be unusable. And the problem proceeds when you put the SD card in another device or to computer with card reader, It will also make corrupted files.
(Tested with 3 SD cards 2gb, 32gb and 64gb sandisk. All are destroyed :'(
Even if you format it will still be unusable (I got this problem with the kitkat update. I was fine at jealy bean)
4- Now with the lollipop update new problem is added to the list and nothing fixed: My Z is now randomly shutting down during the usage. The only time it doesn't when it's connected to the charger.
I confirm that it's not a battery problem because my battery is good and I can turn the Z on again after the shutdown without charging. I was fine before lollipop
5- It is charging slowly. Takes about three hours to full charge from zero. When used heavily while charging, It will discharge faster than it's charging
Now I am planning to install a custom rom to see if I can avoid these annoying problems
Those are more than enough reasons that will make my next phone htc probably or Samsung which I disliked at first but now I seem to like them much much more
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all of your problems will go away if you do a factory reset which is highly recommended after such a big update like android 5
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all of your problems will go away if you do a factory reset which is highly recommended after such a big update like android 5
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Or he just updated via zip method instead of upgrade via ftf.
BTW @Furrydaus
I think the Z is still worth it, its not so expensive anymore but still performs very well (stock and custom)
My sister has an SP and I'm recommending her a Z also.
BTW 2: # offtopic: next week I'm flashing different rom / kernel on her SP, and since she doesn't have the time to let me test rom by rom,, could you recommend a fast and stable rom? Because now she suffers poor ram management and reboots.
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all of your problems will go away if you do a factory reset which is highly recommended after such a big update like android 5
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If it would be so simple to fix everything by reset, everyone would do this and live happy after that :]
But about that list:
2. Yes its heat a lot... but I found out that almost EVERY new phone heat a lot, mostly those with glass.metal back... companies dont understand that today phones dont actually need such power, only better optimized apps, but instead of that they put there huge CPU's like XZ and never phones. And XZ normal temp are 60-70, I actually took pirometr from work and when playing, back panel had almost 60*C its actually hard to hold it :]
And no reset nor clean system install can fix that.
4. Actually this is only problem that could be fixed with clean installation, because its clearly problem of system(reboots)
5. that is so true. For past couple of weeks Im playing with Virtual Reality Goggles, and most of apps for that just massacre CPU and battery, and even when Im charging it, after one movie(90min) Battery is down from 70 to 20% WHEN CHARING! xD And Im using docking pins for charging because I found that they give more juice than charging from microUSB.
And in Lollipop I actually need to charge it two times per day, using only music player and browser...
And about topic... it is worth?
NO
I bought it knowing about two things that battery suck, and screen suck... its turn out that screen is awesome, but camera is tragic, especially after LP update, that now camera take worst pics quality than xperia Neo V that I lately fix to use as a Android TV(work like charm with BT mouse)
Xperia Z is amazing device but compared what you can get now for that money its plain stupidity to buy it.
Sofware on it is "shoot and miss", especially when you update to LP.
Battery is tragic no matter of OS version
Camera just suck
Cover flaps are HUGE F PAIN IN THE ARSE, when you use headphones a lot you can order new ones, or even bunch of covers, because they break up easily.
Because of heat and weird design back cover can pop up a bit, so forget about waterproof.
Without sound mods its really quiet device, especially after LP
Its HUGE fingerprint magnet....
I dont care about that, but if someone want to buy new phone, forget about xz....
Akinaro said:
If it would be so simple to fix everything by reset, everyone would do this and live happy after that :]
But about that list:
2. Yes its heat a lot... but I found out that almost EVERY new phone heat a lot, mostly those with glass.metal back... companies dont understand that today phones dont actually need such power, only better optimized apps, but instead of that they put there huge CPU's like XZ and never phones. And XZ normal temp are 60-70, I actually took pirometr from work and when playing, back panel had almost 60*C its actually hard to hold it :]
And no reset nor clean system install can fix that.
4. Actually this is only problem that could be fixed with clean installation, because its clearly problem of system(reboots)
5. that is so true. For past couple of weeks Im playing with Virtual Reality Goggles, and most of apps for that just massacre CPU and battery, and even when Im charging it, after one movie(90min) Battery is down from 70 to 20% WHEN CHARING! xD And Im using docking pins for charging because I found that they give more juice than charging from microUSB.
And in Lollipop I actually need to charge it two times per day, using only music player and browser...
And about topic... it is worth?
NO
I bought it knowing about two things that battery suck, and screen suck... its turn out that screen is awesome, but camera is tragic, especially after LP update, that now camera take worst pics quality than xperia Neo V that I lately fix to use as a Android TV(work like charm with BT mouse)
Xperia Z is amazing device but compared what you can get now for that money its plain stupidity to buy it.
Sofware on it is "shoot and miss", especially when you update to LP.
Battery is tragic no matter of OS version
Camera just suck
Cover flaps are HUGE F PAIN IN THE ARSE, when you use headphones a lot you can order new ones, or even bunch of covers, because they break up easily.
Because of heat and weird design back cover can pop up a bit, so forget about waterproof.
Without sound mods its really quiet device, especially after LP
Its HUGE fingerprint magnet....
I dont care about that, but if someone want to buy new phone, forget about xz....
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The Z1 fixes most of the issues so I recommend Z1 or up
Hashim97 said:
I having my Xperia z for about 2 years now
I don't recommend buying Xperia Z
Cons/Problems I have with my Z:
1- The sim card slot is annoying. Fortunately I don't have to change my sim card for a long time until I travel to another country or decide to change carrier
2- Yes Xperia Z has big ram, good processor and good performance but the problem is that it produces much heat. Doing a multitasks in background like playing a game, then switch to watch a video then surf the Web produce a fairly heat that burns your hand and force you sometimes to decide putting it into the refrigerator
3- Destroys your SD card: When I copy any file to external SD card, It becomes corrupted suddenly or disappeares. Then after a short period the SD card will be unusable. And the problem proceeds when you put the SD card in another device or to computer with card reader, It will also make corrupted files.
(Tested with 3 SD cards 2gb, 32gb and 64gb sandisk. All are destroyed :'(
Even if you format it will still be unusable (I got this problem with the kitkat update. I was fine at jealy bean)
4- Now with the lollipop update new problem is added to the list and nothing fixed: My Z is now randomly shutting down during the usage. The only time it doesn't when it's connected to the charger.
I confirm that it's not a battery problem because my battery is good and I can turn the Z on again after the shutdown without charging. I was fine before lollipop
5- It is charging slowly. Takes about three hours to full charge from zero. When used heavily while charging, It will discharge faster than it's charging
Now I am planning to install a custom rom to see if I can avoid these annoying problems
Those are more than enough reasons that will make my next phone htc probably or Samsung which I disliked at first but now I seem to like them much much more
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Dude, are you sure that you're being logical?
1) This is the only legit fault you have named. You can do nothing about this.
2) Playing a game, watching a video and surfing the web simultaneously? Are you serious? This is the biggest pressure you can put on a phone, how do you expect it not to heat up? I agree that it generally heats up pretty quickly, but newer, stronger phones usually act like that.
3) Do you really think this is a reason to convince people not to buy the XZ? Do you not think if such a flaw existed in a device, the company would stop its production line until fixed? That is definitely not a whole issue, but one with your device. You have either a damaged card slot or a faulty SD card.
4) Again, do not generalize such issues with phones ever. Random shut downs are not normal at all. They are not expected to be spontaneously present at all units of the same model. The problem is surely at your side, whether software or hardware.
5) Slow charging is apparently a problem raised after the LP update. However, I kinsa feel like it is somewhat better now for me with custom ROMs. But anyway, anticipate the official 5.1 update.
And dear OP, please compare devices of the same level of specifications. The XZ is old, but the SP is even older. It uses a dual core processor and 1GB of RAM, while the XZ is equipped with the double of each. The display also is in fHD resolution with like 441 pixels per inch, and this is quite great. Thoroughly, the XZ is a good device, in my opinion, with its thermal control system disabled in order to prevent poor performance when heating up. Battery life is also not so good. Not bad either, though. Pretty natural with newer phones. Sound volume is also so damn low.
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Dude, are you sure that you're being logical?
1) This is the only legit fault you have named. You can do nothing about this.
2) Playing a game, watching a video and surfing the web simultaneously? Are you serious? This is the biggest pressure you can put on a phone, how do you expect it not to heat up? I agree that it generally heats up pretty quickly, but newer, stronger phones usually act like that.
3) Do you really think this is a reason to convince people not to buy the XZ? Do you not think if such a flaw existed in a device, the company would stop its production line until fixed? That is definitely not a whole issue, but one with your device. You have either a damaged card slot or a faulty SD card.
4) Again, do not generalize such issues with phones ever. Random shut downs are not normal at all. They are not expected to be spontaneously present at all units of the same model. The problem is surely at your side, whether software or hardware.
5) Slow charging is apparently a problem raised after the LP update. However, I kinsa feel like it is somewhat better now for me with custom ROMs. But anyway, anticipate the official 5.1 update.
And dear OP, please compare devices of the same level of specifications. The XZ is old, but the SP is even older. It uses a dual core processor and 1GB of RAM, while the XZ is equipped with the double of each. The display also is in fHD resolution with like 441 pixels per inch, and this is quite great. Thoroughly, the XZ is a good device, in my opinion, with its thermal control system disabled in order to prevent poor performance when heating up. Battery life is also not so good. Not bad either, though. Pretty natural with newer phones. Sound volume is also so damn low.
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I had both devices. XZ and SP. Both of them are using the Snapdragon S4 Pro Processor, the XZ the Quad-Core Variant with 1,5 Ghz and the SP the Dual-Core Variant with 1,7 Ghz.
I can't recommend any of these devices, they are old and the battery is too small for todays use. I'm using the Z for almost two years now. Don't buy it, its too old for todays usage.
Folks would you recommend this handset or wait for the Z5.
I'm not really bothered about the finger print scanner but just wondered what others thoughts were ? I know the Z3+ has some teething issues that are slowly been sorted...
Just don't like any other phone at the moment than the Z3+
You pretty much answered the question yourself. Fingerprint sensor aside, Z5 offers a new camera sensor (same size, more pixels yet smaller pitch, faster focus) with OIS. If you don't care about that either, save up & get Z3+! It has a great camera too. Going by Sony's update history, Z3+ will also get all the sw goodies. Z5 is also a bit bulkier with a slightly smaller battery. So now it's your call
Well if i have money then sure the Z5(/Premium) will be mine compared to Z3+. But if i don't, i'd better wait for price drop or just get the Z3 standard. It's still a hell of a phone.
You recon there'll be some stonking deals on the Z3+in the coming weeks now ? I assume it will get 5.1.1 and M with it having same hardware.
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You recon there'll be some stonking deals on the Z3+in the coming weeks now ? I assume it will get 5.1.1 and M with it having same hardware.
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Simple z5 better camera 5.1.1 battery finger print. Z3+ everything else is the same 3gb ram snapdragon 810 and z3+ will be optimized updated to. Faster Camera response 5.1.1 plus z3+ is thinner.
ME
Its a take and give situation:
Fingerprint vs Old power button(some like this aesthetic)
New camera vs the older camera with minor setbacks compared(like the focus and an upgraded sensor)
Bulkier vs smaller
Price vs Z3+ which surely will go down in price now(also if you dont want everything new a Z3 will be supercheap by next month)
Update-wise the support for both phones will almost hold through just as long since its so close to release to each other and they pretty much run the exact same HW apart from the camera and Fingerprint sensor
The choice is easy, if you would like a rebate on a super awesome and truly stunning device that is still super new go for the Z3+, however if you really need that new camera sensor(honestly Z3+ pictures looks stunning already) and if you value the fingerprint sensor that much go for the Z5
Cheers for the reply chaps, do any of you think that Android M will utilize the finger print scanner even more ? As when I think about things like Android pay that are coming I'd certainly love to use that (anything that saves me carrying the bank card)
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Cheers for the reply chaps, do any of you think that Android M will utilize the finger print scanner even more ? As when I think about things like Android pay that are coming I'd certainly love to use that (anything that saves me carrying the bank card)
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Most definitely but it will take time until shops and stuff starts taking Phones as a payment solution more than just at some fancy place
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Folks would you recommend this handset or wait for the Z5.
I'm not really bothered about the finger print scanner but just wondered what others thoughts were ? I know the Z3+ has some teething issues that are slowly been sorted...
Just don't like any other phone at the moment than the Z3+
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I think since the Z5 has something new, it's important to see if sony makes full use of the new hardest or not.
The IMX200 is used form Z1 to Z3+ and Z3+'s photo is far more better than Z1.
I think it will also take a long time to optimize the new sensor in Z5.
So why can't we wait?
I'm happy with my z3+, last update seemed to solve the heating, and android M is surely coming and resolve the battery. But it is beautiful phone, i chose copper, and it takes great pictures! Z5 doesn't have much over it, and it doesn't have OIS like someone earlier claimed iirc. I believe that z3+ will see a little price drop soon. I don't care about finger prints, i don't use any sort of screen lock but swipe.
I would love to have Z3, Z3+ & Z5 lol. No but seriously Battery life & speakers definately Z3 but I think everything else has been slightly updated on the Z3+. I would choose the Z5 over the rest though mainly because of Camera however I a still waiting to see what the loud speaker is like and also battery test and how loud they are in headphones. As the Z3 is low in headphones generally, the Z3+ is a bit better.
If the Z5 is too expensive then I would go with the Z3+
I have been a big fan of Xperia Z series since the first Z. I changed my phone every time the new Z came out (except Z1 since I just started my career life without much savings).
Every time the new Z came out, I could find its awesomeness, imo, for example the first Z was stylish, waterproof, and powerful but it suffers a lot from heat,washed out display, and loosen waterproof charging caps. Then Z1 came out with more charming metal body, magnetic charging port, and 20 Mpixels camera, highest for a smartphone at the time.
Z2 came out as what the first Z should be at the first place with bigger and vivid screen, stereo speakers, and battery life is awesome to the point that I never found any others with this battery longevity at the time . For Z3, is almost identical to Z2 in term of spec sheet but I found it's very nice to hold in my hand plus the speaker is a lot better, far better than even Z5.
Z4 was very good on the spec sheet, especially with no more microusb cap but the battery life is a very big disappointment with almost half what Z3 lasts. It also suffers a lot of heat from normal uses. Z5 premium is, imo, the most refined Xperia with decent battery life, big screen, stylish material and colors selection.
Also, I don't know if it's me alone but every time I got the new Xperia on my hand, I felt really good and every single one of them was attractive.
Strangely, I can't explain but when I hold X/XP on on my hand, I didn't feel a thing, not even a glimpse of attractiveness although my country is offered 64GB/dual sims variant at the same price as Galaxy S7 (32GB/dual sims variant) with contract. I was never really into Samsung before (not because I hate it but I just neither found it attractive) but this time, I event think of waiting for Note7.
What are you guys' opinions? What are your before and after buying feelings toward X Performance?
How I've tired from this speech. Shut up and go to gnusmas, apple, htc, moto/lenovo, xiaomi, zte, huawei and where u want! DON'T BUY SONY! Moaner!
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How I've tired from this speech. Shut up and go to gnusmas, apple, htc, moto/lenovo, xiaomi, zte, huawei and where u want! DON'T BUY SONY! Moaner!
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Thanks a lot for your opinion. Actually I was about to buy XP. The price without contract is very high but the price with contract is acceptable. The plan that I will have to pay for is quite similar to what I currently use but I have to stay with it for a whole year. That's why I ask foy you guys' opinion at the first place. Because I love Xperia but this time I'm not really sure if it worth changing (not in term of spec sheet but your real experience of using it.
It seems you are extremely not appreciate the question but you made a good answer anyway. If a current user doesn't have such a good thing about it to say but purely throwing back a bad temper. It absolutely clarifies my answer.
If you are a dual sim user, you should note that the S7 forces the 2nd sim to be in 2G mode when the 1st sim is in 4G/3G, and vice versa.
On the other hand, the XP allows the 2nd sim to be in 3G-voice standby when the 1st sim is in 4G/3G. This functionality is important for countries like Korea or Japan which no longer have 2G, or countries like Singapore, Australia or USA which are going to shutdown their 2G networks soon. The other phones such as Mi5, Moto G4, Zuk Z2/Pro, etc which support this feature are from Chinese OEMs.
Another advantage the XP has over the S7 is Sony's willingness to allowing unlocking of the bootloader.
Im also considering getting a XP but with its cost here in the Philippines, i might get a S7 or a Z5.
I always look at the batt first, then the speakers, then the cam, then lastly the specs.
Get the sony xperia x performance. Hope getting a blazingly fast phone with a processor that snap dragon actually really refined and improved with a bigger jump than previous iterations.
Your being the best camera in a smart phone and one of the best android UIs on the market. And a nice phone that isn't riddled by logos. It's Sonys best. Everything you need nothing you don't. And the best waterproofing.
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^ I've been backreading the XP thread for quite some time now. How's the batt life and the speakers?
i bought mine for good stereo speakers screen size ,can change os if needed, underwater just in case , didn't but HTC cause is was to big and clumsy for me and mini specs wasn't the same at all
but sony dont have same and good speakers anymore
my last phone was twice louder and more bass (wt19i walkman)
but i would've wait for XP is about 50% different from Z5's( i have z5c) 80K and antutu against 120K (XP) and more 200$ bit didn't know how much it would take and my phone was really slow and old 6-5year old
btw Regular Xperia X is less fast than Z5's
anyway it was BIG different from my old sony (LWW wt19i) 10K score 700% LOL.... 1100% could be nicer.. but
to the point if you have Z5 dont buy the XP phone up to 40-60% overall performance does not worth spend another 750US$
The XP is waterproof, you have to get the S7 active of you want that feature, which is locked to AT&T in the US and is priced about 25% more than the XP. That made my choice pretty simple.
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I had XPERIA Z5 and bought XPERIA X Performance. This is the best Sony phone to date with no good battery life (battery life is better then one on XPERIA Z5 at the moment). Only reason to buy XPERIA X Performance if you already have XPERIA Z5 is because of heat. XPERIA X Performance only heats when using camera longer or if you play games too long and now in Croatia outside temperature is about 35 C. So if the heat is your reason buy it. Otherwise don't buy it. But if you have some older phone you should buy it.
About swiching to Samsung instead I don't know. I am not Samsung fun because of their UI.
Coming from z1c, z3c, z5c to now owning the XP for less then a week.
Before the XP the z5c was a let down compared to its predecessor the z3c. Particularly in general performance but moreover the lacklustre camera performance (the plagued 810 chip didn't help the Z5 line.)
Now, the XP.
Hands down is a far more refined device. As refined as the z3c. The performance is lightning - thanks to the 820 chip and the extra GB ram (3gb.)
Coupled with the lightning performance on the camera FUNCTIONALITY (I'm not stating the QUALITY of the Shots are the best - however the quality is drastically better then the z5c predecessor.)
But what I am stating is that the camera responds and opens and takes pictures faster then on any Sony I've played with (those of you coming from the z5 line know exactly what I'm on about.)
For instance, from standby/sleep mode. As long as the camera settings are preset to 'Launch & Capture.' Then when taking a picture from standby you will notice the picture that has been captured is of that instance of when you clicked the camera button... Although the UI hasn't even rendered. Try this with a moving object and you will notice how frkin fast the capture time is.
Again not professing the QUALITY of the Shots are superior, but simply that the function of the camera is now quite sublime.
The XP works VERY VERY WELL, overall outstanding performance. Yes it will have its niggles. But generally it's the best of what Sony have been trying to achieve.
I don't care for 4k video capture. Nor a 4k or QHD screen. This 1080p is more then ample for a phone. For me coming from the zCompact series (720p screens), this XP screen is amazing and more then enough.
I am very pleased with this device.
The only drawback is the lacklustre Sony Stamina mode. But this is almost not there fault. For OEMs to provide Android phones officially they must adopt key features from Google's updates, hence Sony HAD to employ Google Doze feautre, in this forced effort they clearly couldn't employ Sony's native Stamina Mode (succesfully at least) in the way we'd been accustomed to especially on the z3 line (you can imagine Doze and Sony Stamina not working happily hand in hand, as they both in essence are trying to achieve the same thing, albeit Sony Stamina Mode was far superior.)
Just my 2cents on anyone fighting with Sony Stamina Mode.
Fantastic device.
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I agree with every word you wrote.
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I agree with every word you wrote.
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Having read through the XP forum here, and then this thread, I felt some '1st Hand Heritage Sony User' experience and comprehension was required.
I also can attest that the fingerprint sensor on the XP is insanely faster then the z5c. Wasn't expecting it to be quite this responsive. Impresses on that front too.
Sony UI is second to the Nexus Line. That's a fact.
As good as Samsung's hardware is, there software is like a step backwards from Androids look/feel. Whereas Sony manage to keep the look/feel impressively Stock (replace Sony Launcher with Nova all day everyday, and I don't think you would notice much difference between a Nexus user experience and the Sony User' experience - again this is from my 1st hand experience.)
1 niggle I've noticed, actually since the z3 line, is that the WiFi signal has typically got poorer over longer distance from the WiFi router.
I can achieve a better WiFi signal on my z3c then I can on my z5c and XP.
This thread should be changed to 'Why wouldn't you buy the XP?' ?
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I've been a Sony Fanboy since the Release of the Xperia S, I owned the SP, the ZR bought the Z1 Compact as well and finally the Z3 Compact and I must say they did really well on those devices, especially the Z3 Compact. But looking at the X Performance, I think they're just trying too hard, the price tag to begin with doesn't even look welcoming at 700 Dollars for a phone without any fingerprint scanner, and the battery life isn't any good as well reading from numerous reviews which compares it to the previous flagship the Z5. For now I have my eyes set either on the S6 or the One M9, especially the M9. Those boomsound speakers sound better than Sony's speakers any time.
This is just my opinion tho, If coming from the Z3 Device line, stick with your Z3 and wait for newer models. The Z3 is by far one of the best Sony Z Line phones, stable, doesn't overheat and an active community to keep it going.
So true RE Z3 as the standout of all Sony's.
When it comes to a price war, then yes, the XP price is very overzealous. Can't argue there.
But i find when it comes to a User requiring the 3 points below (such as myself, typically coming from Sony's compact range):
1. Comfortable 1 handed ergonomics.
2. Up to date hardware
3. a Nexus like - look & feel (an unadulterated Android experience.)
Then I conclude the XP is at the forefront in this regard.
Personnel preferences as always ?
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