Is this phone the right choice? - Xperia Z4/Z3+ Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello. I bought this phone 3 days ago. It is all good. It is okay but heating can not be ignored.
I have one question related to the phone heat. Do you think heating can cause problems on the screen? Can heating burn my phone? What is the actually acceptable degree celcius range of this phone?
Mine are about 35 - 42 degrees, mostly.

Use it well mine is ok.
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I've had my phone less than 24hours and occasionally gets warm, but it hasn't got super hot yet.
When does yours get warm?

When it plugged in in on charge and WiFi on streaming not superhot.
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Phone heating normal?

Good afternoon all,
I have my Optimus 4x for around 3 days now, the phone is great in general but i noticed when using applications that require more power the phone heats considerably in the part where the LG symbol is located in the back and i think even more in the front where the screen is.
In my case happened with Skype video call (around 20 minutes) and other time playing a game (frontline commando) for 10 minutes, after it becomes normal again, but as i said i think in general when using heavy applications.
Should i worry about this? is this normal? someone else experiencing the same?
As the phone is new i would like to know if is a defect to send it back.
i have software version V10d
Thank you
Its completely normal, the Tegra chipset is just behind the LG logo.
Got to remember there is a quad core and 3d graphics package sat under there
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How hot does it go anyway? Is it hot enough make you feel very uncomfortable during a call with the phone next to your face?
I have never had it get hot during a call. Only during something like Dead Trigger.
Even then, it's hot but I can still hold the phone. When you consider skin burns at something like 44 deg C, its not really getting that hot. Especially when you think it's a quad core CPU with no heatsink or ventilation.
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Yes i imagined exactly that there would be the processor, of curse is not hot enough to burn but is definitively hot.
My only concern is if in the long term this temperature wont damage the screen or other parts of the phone as for example in my laptop the nvidia video card heated so much that got damaged.
do you have any idea How should be the "normal temperature", is there any app to measure it?
For example does the galaxy 3 gets also hot ?
Sorry for so many questions but im not an expert and i want to be sure i make the right decision
To answer the call question,for me just gets hot as i said when using heavy applications, i would consider just annoying in the case i received a call meantime i played (etc) and the phone was hot but not to the point to say im burning.
Thanks for the previous reply's
Tegra 3 will be shutting down when it reaches about 90_degrees afaik. Don't worry your phone won't die. Only the battery... :-\
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Anyone with any update? Its been 5days since I am using p880 and it gets heated up as experienced by other users near LG logo my OS is up to date (v10e)..also I feel battery drain much faster with when heated. Anyone can confirm same?
..cause->effect, not the other way around, and so on.
But generally, a passively cooled device like this /should/ get hot on the outside fairly quickly, instead of containing the heat. On the 4x, it seems like there's a frame on the inside going around the edges that will lead heat there first. Away from the battery, the middle of the screen, that sort of thing.. Ideally that heat would then disperse without ever reaching uncomfortable temperatures. Thought they did pretty well with the 4x. Seen several tablets.. with lower heat signature than a tegra 3 chip.. end up with a few typical spots the heat ends up on the outside (middle of the screen, contact points on sim card, battery, memory card frame, stereo jack.. copper, see?), because the heat is really being contained inside the device much longer than it should.
And then people happily use the device until it breaks. I don't think that's really a problem with the 4x.
I also have this heating problem land looking for a solution. I have p880g (Canadian AWS version) with 10c firmware. It got really hot before I even finished 1 game of The Game of Life. it wasn't skin burning hot, but hot enough to be uncomfortable, similar to a laptop power adaptor. I also think that it was hot enough for the phone to start throttling. The quadrant benchmark I ran while it was hot was lower than the usual.
I don't think that this game is too cpu and gpu intensive that it''ll max out all the LG O4X's hardware. I tried this same game on Motorola defy with cm9 (overclocked to 1ghz) and galaxy tab 10.1 (stock). Both ran it perfectly fine with no heating issues.
I hope someone can help. It makes this phone's Tegra 3 a bit useless if it starts to overheat with less than 15 minutes of playing a game. If this normal and what LG intended, then will likely be my las t LG phone.
Hi guys! I have the same problem - hot phone when I'm plaing some games. My question is: How many percent of battery drain the game for 10 minutes? In my case, for example bad piggies 10 minutes = 10% of battery. I have brightness of display on 0%. So I installed app called PowerTutor (it show you how much energy drain every app) and this app said that bad piggies drain about 600 J for ten minutes.
How about you phone? Thx for answer...
No one answer?
That's ok. All cpu's are active in this game's so heating is normal.
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Heating Problem Solution
After searching this forum more I''ve found a solution. The heating problems for the LG O4X is fixed with the v10f and up firmware update. This thread has more information about it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1974616
So I have v10H (newer than v10F)...
And I dont think that bad piggies are used all 4 cores, because my friend have only one core and he plays this game smoothly.
When you play this game, prosecutes to charge your phone?
Stoone said:
Hi guys! I have the same problem - hot phone when I'm plaing some games. My question is: How many percent of battery drain the game for 10 minutes? In my case, for example bad piggies 10 minutes = 10% of battery. I have brightness of display on 0%. So I installed app called PowerTutor (it show you how much energy drain every app) and this app said that bad piggies drain about 600 J for ten minutes.
How about you phone? Thx for answer...
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Same in my case when playing games (swing shot, death dome..etc) it gets heated a lot and battery drains like passing minutes...
I played dead trigger with NO wifi,no 2G/3G, no nfc, no bluetooh and less then 50% brightness in 30mins more then 50% battery drained. And this happened with every game I tried.
I bought this tegra3 device only for games but this heating and battery draining is making it pretty useless for game.
Any developer can throw some light please.
Xcalibur007 said:
Heating Problem Solution
After searching this forum more I''ve found a solution. The heating problems for the LG O4X is fixed with the v10f and up firmware update. This thread has more information about it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1974616.
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Unfortunately v10f couldnot resolve my issue and I find v10f/v10g is same as my regions latest v10e.
heating is not a problem its normal because its tegra3 and Quad-core 1.5 GHz Cortex-A9
roger321974 said:
heating is not a problem its normal because its tegra3 and Quad-core 1.5 GHz Cortex-A9
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well, I`m on v20a official software. With v10h I had the issue of overheating when playing a flashout 3d free game - I dont know how, but thermal protection didnt work. After 5 minutes of play, I felt big heat, so I came back to home screen and at this moment my beautifull-brand-new 4XHD went black screen - no buttons worked, even keeping long pressed power...so I took out battery and re-inserted. After start the screen was shaking like it had low-refresh rate applied...I was terrified. I took out the battery for one hour and after this all went to normal. Then I updated by official LG app the software to v20a and checked that phone gets very hot with this app again, but this time I managed to close and uninstall app without burning my new phone...so I gave it a 1-star rating and a comment in google play. Now I installed some app to monitor temperature inside and I see that with nfs:most wanted after 15 minutes of game, it was at 40 degrees (celsius). I checked with other apps and I see this was max and it felt/feels very hot, though this wasnt so hot like I felt with flashout 3d.
My question to all of you 4x HD users is:
can you tell me your temeperatures? Min/max ?
I mean: I have minimum 26/27 celsius (phone in the pocket), with data,bluetooth,nfc on I had about 30 celsius, and maximum 40 celsius (when playing demanding game). Also I saw big increase in temperature outdoors with bright sunlight(I have automatic brightness on all teh time) and while having data,bluetooth,nfc and GPS on.

Dropped my beloved in water

I can't imagine she still works after this! She was under there first for three seconds, but when i tried to rescue her i accidently dropped her one more time. So she was under there for even three more seconds.
After she had dried up under a 50 degrees Celsius fan for a couple of hours she actually worked flawlessly.
I pulled here apart and it seems she is completely dry on the inside.
Hope she stays in this working condition for the future also.
Anybody else experienced this with their beloved ones? What have you done to bring her back to life?
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Cundis said:
I can't imagine she still works after this! She was under there first for three seconds, but when i tried to rescue her i accidently dropped her one more time. So she was under there for even three more seconds.
After she had dried up under a 50 degrees Celsius fan for a couple of hours she actually worked flawlessly.
I pulled here apart and it seems she is completely dry on the inside.
Hope she stays in this working condition for the future also.
Anybody else experienced this with their beloved ones? What have you done to bring her back to life?
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Must of been that prayer to the Android god..
Raistlin1158 said:
Must of being that prayer to the Android god..
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Yeah, i must admit there were some prayers when i got her up in the air..
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experiment
A few months ago I deliberately submerged my i9305 in water whilst playing music
screen flashed and music playing, so took battery apart
surprisingly after drying for 30 min. it was working flawlessly no problems at all:victory:
so I tried 1 more experiment, this time charger plugged in music playing.
screen flashed led went crazy. Again took battery out, but this time put it in the preheated oven.
again it worked perfectly, checked inside all parts were intact no damage
I did make a video I'll see if I can find it to upload
I wont suggest trying this but rest a sure that if it drops in water it'll still be OK:good:
boomtngz said:
A few months ago I deliberately submerged my i9305 in water whilst playing music
screen flashed and music playing, so took battery apart
surprisingly after drying for 30 min. it was working flawlessly no problems at all:victory:
so I tried 1 more experiment, this time charger plugged in music playing.
screen flashed led went crazy. Again took battery out, but this time put it in the preheated oven.
again it worked perfectly, checked inside all parts were intact no damage
I did make a video I'll see if I can find it to upload
I wont suggest trying this but rest a sure that if it drops in water it'll still be OK:good:
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I'm sure you had lots of fun, but why on earth would you do such a thing to your phone?
Mine got a little unstable the last day. Some strange screen
behaviour. So i got some money from the insurance company, and i bought a note 3. I think that may be a good path to go from now.
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Battery max temp. 45°C and CPU max temp. 75°C

My phone is heating even with the normal usage but while playing games like asphalt 8 or modern combat 5 it is heating upto 75°C
Is it normal or I have got a defective piece again.
My max. Battery temp. Is 45°C
Max. CPU temp. Is 75°C
The earlier device I got was also heating so I replaced it and now this one is also heating the same...
Is it normal with this device or I have got a defective piece...
Plzzzzz help it's urgent...
The only time when mine is heating up is when it's placed in direct sunlight for a longer period of time.
Hornettt said:
The only time when mine is heating up is when it's placed in direct sunlight for a longer period of time.
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So after that u haven't faced any problem??
I mean mine phone sometimes heats a lot.
And when I measured it's CPU temp. It's max reaches to 75°C.
I bought it yesterday.
Its a replaced one. The earlier zuk was also heating upto 70°C so I return it. And now this one is also
NiCkY.NaVnEeT said:
So after that u haven't faced any problem??
I mean mine phone sometimes heats a lot.
And when I measured it's CPU temp. It's max reaches to 75°C.
I bought it yesterday.
Its a replaced one. The earlier zuk was also heating upto 70°C so I return it. And now this one is also
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I haven't had any heating issues so far, sometimes the top gets slightly warm but not so hot that you can't hold it
Bro... Which Is that CPU temperature measuring app? Coz .. I don't think that Zuk Z1 has temp sensor for CPU.... It only has a temp sensor for batt. just like any other phone in this price range (India)

OP3T freezing issues (freezing - low sub zero temps :) )

Hi I encountered recently 2 weird issues with my OP. It is around -10 C degree outside and I was out for a walk, took the phone, it was charged to 65% and wanted to take a photo but after pressing shutter the phone shut down and I couldn't turn it on, first it was trying to boot but shut down again and then only information about very low battery and to charge it first.
This situation happend already 2 times.
Is it normal? I cannot operate the phone in -10C? My HTC and Nexus were all fine even in lower temps, i was just getting inforamtion that I cannot use flash for camera as the temperature was too low but otherwise it was working fine.
Where are you keeping the phone when not using it? Try a pocket close to your body, to keep it warm. Li ion batteries (and most battery types) discharge much more quickly when very cold.
I had my phone on me while skiing. Probably close to the temps you are talking about. I kept my 3t in a chest pocket, under my jacket, and took it out occasionally to take photos. It worked fine, and the battery kept charge all day, no problem.
I keep it in my jeans pocket and sometimes at down jacket pocket so should be fine. Either way I never had a problem with low temperatures. It shut down also when I was skiing the other time. I understnad when it discharges, the status should just show lower battery, not just shut down from 65% and why it was after I press the shutter? I am on stock so there is no firmware crash probably due to modding.
No problem with mine at - 40c here
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Dugaldrob said:
No problem with mine at - 40c here
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-40c is seriously low for current battery technology to function normally.
Also, where do you live?
Tagtag123 said:
-40c is seriously low for current battery technology to function normally.
Also, where do you live?
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I live in Manitoba Canada [emoji260] and that doesn't include windchill seriously tho I've never had a problem with low temperature affecting my battery, even my car starts at that temperature
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Happened again, OnePlus support is suggesting to flash OOS again with remote session with their 2 level specialist Is this a bad joke?

Question Motherboard overheating

https://www.gizmochina.com/2021/04/22/xiaomi-mi-11-face-issue-burnt-motherboards/
Does anyone have this problems??
Matija_mi said:
https://www.gizmochina.com/2021/04/22/xiaomi-mi-11-face-issue-burnt-motherboards/
Does anyone have this problems??
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You are making me worried
Until now it's all hearsay, I haven't really seen any proof that Mi 11 devices are actually having these issues.
That being said, it's natural for some devices to have issues. This happens with literally every model of every brand. That's why warranties were created in the first place, otherwise if all devices were perfect, warranties would be useless.
I've had mine for about 2 months and never had any overheating issues. Not even while gaming. The only time I felt it hot in my hand was when running a few Antutu benchmarks back to back.
DarknessWarrior said:
Until now it's all hearsay, I haven't really seen any proof that Mi 11 devices are actually having these issues.
That being said, it's natural for some devices to have issues. This happens with literally every model of every brand. That's why warranties were created in the first place, otherwise if all devices were perfect, warranties would be useless.
I've had mine for about 2 months and never had any overheating issues. Not even while gaming. The only time I felt it hot in my hand was when running a few Antutu benchmarks back to back.
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Agreed, not a problem for me either being using it since January, especially on the new MIUI 12.5 update. My Mi 11 feels so much better than ever. Cheers
Europe Croatia... Still waiting for new update.
How is battery with new fw?
My phone just crashed while i was trying to post this
Those are my temps and I'm just uploading an archive on wifi everything is off the sim is set on 2G all low brightness and 60hz
Are these temps normal? It's not the first time it gets hot from uploading or downloading
In normal usage i usually get 5 hours with 50 percent remaining but when I upload or download something it drains from 50 to 25 in 30 minutes wtf
CYBERWORMHOLE said:
My phone just crashed while i was trying to post this
Those are my temps and I'm just uploading an archive on wifi everything is off the sim is set on 2G all low brightness and 60hz
Are these temps normal? It's not the first time it gets hot from uploading or downloading
In normal usage i usually get 5 hours with 50 percent remaining but when I upload or download something it drains from 50 to 25 in 30 minutes wtf
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Those temps look normal if you're using it. Uploading big files and using the Wi-Fi hard takes quite a bit of energy and releases quite a bit of heat off the modem.
I've tried to run several speedtests back to back on my Wi-Fi and the phone gets a bit warm to the touch, especially on the top, but I couldn't call it hot, just warm. Temps are similar to yours, up to 50'sC on the CPU and 38 on the battery
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Those temps look normal if you're using it. Uploading big files and using the Wi-Fi hard takes quite a bit of energy and releases quite a bit of heat off the modem.
I've tried to run several speedtests back to back on my Wi-Fi and the phone gets a bit warm to the touch, especially on the top, but I couldn't call it hot, just warm. Temps are similar to yours, up to 50'sC on the CPU and 38 on the battery
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My battery was at 44-45 and the cpu was 49 is that normal for the battery?
DarknessWarrior said:
Those temps look normal if you're using it. Uploading big files and using the Wi-Fi hard takes quite a bit of energy and releases quite a bit of heat off the modem.
I've tried to run several speedtests back to back on my Wi-Fi and the phone gets a bit warm to the touch, especially on the top, but I couldn't call it hot, just warm. Temps are similar to yours, up to 50'sC on the CPU and 38 on the battery
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My battery was at 44-45 and the cpu was 49 is that normal?
Edit: i posted again by mistake
My Mi 11 shuts down when charging and then I have to manually power it on.
This has happened 2-3 times already and the device is hot as f..k!
Seems they f.cked again!
psichokillah said:
My Mi 11 shuts down when charging and then I have to manually power it on.
This has happened 2-3 times already and the device is hot as f..k!
Seems they f.cked again!
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My battery is always on 40°c wtf Xiaomi
Even my 845 did better than this phone
https://www.themyme.com/2021/04/26/...ifi-module-related-complaints-of-mi-11-users/
I have overheating issues. I'm waiting to send it back to get a new one. One day the phone got suddenly really hot then i shutdown. And then it didn't turn on. Then I plugged it in and the mainboard gets up to 55 Celsius. With some tricks you can turn it on but it only charge with around 450mA with the 55W charger and is still very hot until you disconnect the charger.
Matija_mi said:
https://www.gizmochina.com/2021/04/22/xiaomi-mi-11-face-issue-burnt-motherboards/
Does anyone have this problems??
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Yes
Already serviced, motherboard replaced. Fingers crossed the new motherboard has a different design / MIUI 13 will be less taxing on the motherboard...
Same me, replaced motherboard and display
seemebreakthis said:
Yes
Already serviced, motherboard replaced. Fingers crossed the new motherboard has a different design / MIUI 13 will be less taxing on the motherboard...
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seemebreakthis said:
Yes
Already serviced, motherboard replaced. Fingers crossed the new motherboard has a different design / MIUI 13 will be less taxing on the motherboard...
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Same here motherboard replaced
ajo81 said:
Same here motherboard replaced
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I actually want to stress test it as much as possible now so if it breaks down again at least it is still under warranty !
Same here, replaced
Matija_mi said:
https://www.gizmochina.com/2021/04/22/xiaomi-mi-11-face-issue-burnt-motherboards/
Does anyone have this problems??
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is this even supposed to surprise anyone man? to start this phone is hot and alsoo xiaomi have nice reputation for overheat and motherboard
This isn't a new issue for Xiaomi. From the mi 10 t/t pro to the poco x3 pro and f3, it seems to interest a wide array of models. If this reassures people at least for the mi 10t/t pro later revisions fixed the issue

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