Hangouts or stock messages? - Galaxy Note5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

What do you guys prefer in regards to texting?
I find hangouts a bit choppy but seems like it has more features.

dmaynard83 said:
What do you guys prefer in regards to texting?
I find hangouts a bit choppy but seems like it has more features.
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I have 2 gmail accounts work and personal and it is a pain in the butt looking for different contacts in hangouts because you can only use one account at a time they dont combine the contacts of the 2 accounts

It seems like Hangouts does not work with the Galaxy Gear (watches), huh?

my choice messenger will always be WhatsApp (messaging, voice/video clips, voice calling) for its simplicity, yet is pretty feature-packed. i hate what Talk has become (since it became Hangouts Messenger). but for voice or video calling, i ultimately prefer WeChat. the quality is really good and it holds on to a connection pretty well (doesn't disconnect so easily) when in poor signal conditions.
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I like the way Google Messenger and Hangouts work with group messages but for right now I can't get with the lag that both app have so im sticking with the stock messaging app for the moment. if they update them to make the more fluent I will jump on hangouts. Google Messenger also have too many colors.

I went back to the stock messaging app, Google hangouts doesn't have quick reply, and it lags.
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cashyftw said:
I went back to the stock messaging app, Google hangouts doesn't have quick reply, and it lags.
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I noticed the new 4.0 version of Hangouts lags backing out of app and opening some MMS. Clearning cache/data and reverting to previous stock version fixes the lag.

I'm currently using Google messenger. It does lag a bit.
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Stock messages works just fine for me

Textra

Yeah Google hangouts is really laggy I went back to messages. I'd type several letters before they'd register on screen
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S197Mike said:
Yeah Google hangouts is really laggy I went back to messages. I'd type several letters before they'd register on screen
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I only had this problem with the stock keyboard. No lag problems for me on hangouts + Swype.

alaskajoel said:
I only had this problem with the stock keyboard. No lag problems for me on hangouts + Swype.
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I never tried that.
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UPDATE : This man was right. Totally made a difference

I have this with Hangouts 4 and Swiftkey. Constant lag. But the Sammy messenger app is butt ugly.

I'm using hangouts due to the Google voice ans hangout integration. It is a bit laggy with swiftkey

I just started using textra, I like it so much more. Just had to disable it from turning the screen on.
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Hangouts notifications were really inconsistent for me on the Note 3, so I'm not even going to bother testing with the N5. I have my Google Voice integrated into Hangouts, and I use it occasionally for work chatter, but nothing that requires any sort of reliability.

I only stick with stock apps if they off what I want, and that's mainly a Quick Reply feature. I was using Google Messenger as my SMS app because my last phone (One M8) did not have that built in. Since the Note 5 does have it, I found no need to use Google Messenger anymore. And I like the stock app cause I can quick reply while in landscape aswell. Google Messenger would only allow you to quick reply in portrait.

Sfkn2 said:
It seems like Hangouts does not work with the Galaxy Gear (watches), huh?
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Check out an app called Gear Notifications. It will allow you to reply to hangouts messages. The device also has a thread on the gear s forum on xda.
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If you are using the stock keyboard because you like google's speech-to-text, check out the swype xposed plugin 'SwypeTweaks.' Replaces the dragon voice with google's. I get lots of lag in several apps with the Samsung keyboard on my Note 5...Swype all the way for me.

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Stock SMS or Hangouts?

Which one are you guys using?
It pisses me off that hangouts archives pics regardless of setting. I was surprised to goto picasa/google+ photos and see every pic ever sent via hangouts there. Until Google changes this, I've gone back to stock SMS.
Note 4 T-Mobile
Stock sms
The color scheme kills me!
Both. I use SMS normally but I use Hangouts when my girlfriend is at work because she has chrome and the hangouts extension on her work computer.
I like hangouts.
Are any of you having trouble with Hangouts? When sending a reply message/text or simply navigating through the app, it's slow and clunky. A lot slower than any other app on the phone.
It seems to have really noticeable micro-pauses when sending a message and the text box animation comes up. Maybe I'm the only one having this issue?
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Nihonno said:
Are any of you having trouble with Hangouts? When sending a reply message/text or simply navigating through the app, it's slow and clunky. A lot slower than any other app on the phone.
It seems to have really noticeable micro-pauses when sending a message and the text box animation comes up. Maybe I'm the only one having this issue?
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Same here
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sotorious said:
The color scheme kills me!
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Holy cow, stock SMS is so ugly... the three default backgrounds and the bubble styles... looks like Cookie Monster vomit.
I'm using Hangouts and couldn't be happier. And MMS works on it with WiFi Calling, which was a pleasant surprise!
Stock mms need wificalling text and mms over wifi hangouts dont do that
Messenger from Android L
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I've been using hangouts. My gf was having issues sending messages yesterday but other than that we've hadn't had any issues.
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APN settings?
siraltus said:
Holy cow, stock SMS is so ugly... the three default backgrounds and the bubble styles... looks like Cookie Monster vomit.
I'm using Hangouts and couldn't be happier. And MMS works on it with WiFi Calling, which was a pleasant surprise!
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What apn settings is Hangouts using? (Hangout settings) Also, what apn is your phone set to?
Screenshots would be awesome!
Ive been using Stock but mainly because I feel like Hangouts isn't as speedy as it use to be on my Note 3.
Mms over wifi doesn't work in hangouts right not the Google.Com but when it's set as default using ur number
Textra
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Textra
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Tried that once mms over wifi didn't work for me
I tried Hangouts but couldn't stand how it wouldn't use my contact pictures, it would only use their Google+ contact picture and most my contacts don't have a Google+ so it was a blank picture. Am I right here or is there a setting that eluded me?
Nihonno said:
Are any of you having trouble with Hangouts? When sending a reply message/text or simply navigating through the app, it's slow and clunky. A lot slower than any other app on the phone.
It seems to have really noticeable micro-pauses when sending a message and the text box animation comes up. Maybe I'm the only one having this issue?
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Same experience here. Seems like sending hangout message is fine, but sending an SMS slows it down considerably to a point that SwiftKey stops registering swipes for a couple of seconds.
Hangouts seemed a big slow at times, and also would send pictures only when it felt like it. I could find no pattern to when it would or wouldn't. Stock works all the time, recently switched to the lolipop messaging app.
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[Q] Disabling Hangouts app?

Anyone has disabled the Hangouts app?
I don't use Hangouts at all, and thinking to disable it from the Settings --> Apps --> Disable ...
But, I need to know if there is any effect on disabling this app.
Thanks.
Make sure you change your default SMS app, but i had it disabled for a while with no issues. I downloaded and used the generic Google "Messaging" app
Open the settings on your device
Find the "Wireless & network" settings
Tap the "More" entry
Tap the "Default SMS app" entry and make your choice
I re-enabled it to use Hangouts wifi calling
Yes it has a effect, that's why it is disabled. The app remains on your phone but is frozen from doing anything.
+1 to paisan about sms. I prefer textra sms though
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zephiK said:
I prefer textra sms though
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Textra is a great app. I've used it and liked it, and would recommend it to the OP or anyone else. But honestly, I am a boring middle aged person. No-frills is fine with me lol
PaisanNYC said:
Textra is a great app. I've used it and liked it, and would recommend it to the OP or anyone else. But honestly, I am a boring middle aged person. No-frills is fine with me lol
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Haha, kind of weird that the team who made textra made chompSMS previously and still maintains it.
ChompSMS is another good choice and so is qk sms.
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Anyone else having voice input issues? (SOLVED!)

Hi all. I'm having an issue where when I try tapping the microphone button on the stock keyboard the voice input thing pops up but then quickly disappears. Voice input is working in other ways just not from the keyboard. Has anyone else experienced this? Oh, it also does the same thing on Swiftkey.
SOLUTION: so it turns out this only happens while using the stock messaging (sms) client. Voice input works when I switch over to using, the very similar, Google messenger app. Also in Facebook messenger, email apps etc. Therefore it is not a problem with voice input or with the keyboard exactly, but how the stock messenger app interacts with the keyboard.
Anyways I'm curious to see if this happens to others with the Idol 4 (non-S). Comment below with your experience and hit the thanks button if this has helped you.
You should try the Google keyboard, it has swiping feature and on my phone the mic button works
I think the Google keyboard IS the stock keyboard. But yes I I've tried it.
drakepayton said:
I think the Google keyboard IS the stock keyboard. But yes I I've tried it.
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No I think the default keyboard is the "Android keyboard" has no swipe. Google keyboard is different.
No issues here using both stock Google keyboard or SwiftKey.
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inku said:
No issues here using both stock Google keyboard or SwiftKey.
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Thanks. I must have a faulty unit. A factory reset doesn't fix it.
SOLUTION: so it turns out this only happens while using the stock messaging (sms) client. Voice input works when I switch over to using, the very similar, Google messenger app. Also in Facebook messenger, email apps etc. Therefore it is not a problem with voice input or with the keyboard exactly, but how the stock messenger app interacts with the keyboard.
Anyways I'm curious to see if this happens to others with the Idol 4 (non-S). Comment below with your experience and hit the thanks button if this has helped you.
drakepayton said:
SOLUTION: so it turns out this only happens while using the stock messaging (sms) client. Voice input works when I switch over to using, the very similar, Google messenger app. Also in Facebook messenger, email apps etc. Therefore it is not a problem with voice input or with the keyboard exactly, but how the stock messenger app interacts with the keyboard.
Anyways I'm curious to see if this happens to others with the Idol 4 (non-S). Comment below with your experience and hit the thanks button if this has helped you.
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Yes i can confirm that the stock sms app is at fault. i use Textra for sms so i never noticed the issue.

What messaging app are you using?

And why? ?
I'm using Facebook messenger app. Crazy, I know.
The Why: Because I already have it for the occasional FB message, so I thought I would give it a try. It's not bad, and I like the chat heads. I don't share anything too personal over it, so I'm not concerned. One day I might stop being lazy and try some others out.
Google Messages works a treat for my usage...
Textra ftw. No other texting app better, none as customizable. I also use WhatsApp for friends out of the USA and for sending video and photos to my most talked to friends
Eric214 said:
Textra ftw. No other texting app better, none as customizable. I also use WhatsApp for friends out of the USA and for sending video and photos to my most talked to friends
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Exactly the same... ?
Eric214 said:
Textra ftw. No other texting app better, none as customizable. I also use WhatsApp for friends out of the USA and for sending video and photos to my most talked to friends
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I use Google Messages right now but I do miss the customization that Textra offered and how fast and smooth it is but the one major thing that prevents me from using it every time is the lack of archiving message threads feature that text apps like pulse and messages have. It keeps me away cause sometimes I want to delete a message thread but often times I just want to archive it cause there may be images, information, or just the fact that I want to see my text history with that person. Which Textra would add this feature instead of just the deleting the whole thread.
Textra here too
Fast and simple and heavily customisable
Whats app, facebook messenger.
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I use Google Messages right now but I do miss the customization that Textra offered and how fast and smooth it is but the one major thing that prevents me from using it every time is the lack of archiving message threads feature that text apps like pulse and messages have. It keeps me away cause sometimes I want to delete a message thread but often times I just want to archive it cause there may be images, information, or just the fact that I want to see my text history with that person. Which Textra would add this feature instead of just the deleting the whole thread.
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Yes I agree I gave it 3 stars and mentioned this in my review to the developer. I told them it would be a 5 star if there was a way to backup and restore or archive them as to not lose them from phone to phone or in cases you need to data reset your phone. They responded to me and said they would look into it and nothing... this was about 2 years ago.
Textra is love, Textra is life, no other compromise.
Google messages. I have used textra alot before. But just switched to Google and it's been smooth and exactly what I need.
Google Messages for me.
Smooth, useful features, and web messaging from other devices.
As a non US résident, I don't have access to those fancy text apps nevermind to a supercharged network !
Hence, where I am from, texting is a thing of the past!
I use Telegram which is, in my opinion, light years ahead it's competition in terms of features and one of the last really secure platform there is! (Among with signal)
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Google messages, Whatsapps and Telegram.
Used to use textra, then chompsms, now pulse.
I got tired of backing up my messages when changing phones (I switch between 3 at least once a week.)
Pulse auto syncs messages and restores automatically upon a new login.
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You guys use text messaging? Damn...
It's 2019, use Signal.
Using Google messages, simple, works for me and has a web client for the rare time I don't have my phone next to me
Textra
Great app no issues
Using the stock messaging app for the time being but considering moving to google messaging app because of the web client, which was very convenient back when I had my Nokia 6.1
Textra , it's awesome!
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Question Google Messages vs Samsung Messages? Which to keep

I've seen some threads asking about the google messages apk. but my question is:
My s21 ultra came with google messages by default as SMS app, I also have the Samsung messages app installed (I set it as default instead of the google messages app).
Is there a reason for the google messages app to have come as default? Are there any advantages to it?
p.s. I didn't really find the exact answer around the forum, if there is such answer, can you please point me to it and close this thread?
Regards
joancolmenares said:
I've seen some threads asking about the google messages apk. but my question is:
My s21 ultra came with google messages by default as SMS app, I also have the Samsung messages app installed (I set it as default instead of the google messages app).
Is there a reason for the google messages app to have come as default? Are there any advantages to it?
p.s. I didn't really find the exact answer around the forum, if there is such answer, can you please point me to it and close this thread?
Regards
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I like google messages mainly for the good integration of RCS and also because it has a web app. The UI is fine, darkmode is cool, so if I had to choose I'd go for Google.
Now on why it's google messages by default, I have no clue...
Personally, I like Google Messages, but Samsung Messages now has RCS too I believe. It just got it recently. But from what I've seen and used, Google Messages is probably the way to go. It's just a better experience overall. It can verify business senders, help you report spam messages, and also just a couple of different things that are convenient, like what Raiz mentioned above. I'd go back to Google if you want something that works better overall.
Thanks mates!
Will switch back to Google/Android Messages and test it out a bit more
I use Messages, the only AT&T bloatware app I use.
Edit, it's Samsung not AT&T
Here I am still using Textra lol
Google messages far superior easier to use, much easier adding gifs, emojis and attachments.
I use Google Messages it's really nice and simple to use.
Wish you could uninstall the samsung contacts, calendar, calc, clock, messages, phone etc.... it's the one thing that irritates me with samsung that they spend all this effort replicating what google already does a perfectly good job of.
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Wish you could uninstall the samsung contacts, calendar, calc, clock, messages, phone etc.... it's the one thing that irritates me with samsung that they spend all this effort replicating what google already does a perfectly good job of.
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You can remove using the adb commands. You can find the package name by using the apk analyzer app.
I was using Google Messages on my previous device, but with the S21 I couldn't set conversations to be mute (roaming messages i receive daily on my 2nd sim).
I can only make the notification silent for that conversation, but I don't even want the notification, which I cannot do.
Samsung Messages have this ability
I use signal. Better than both, has everything plus security and privacy.
S10Plus said:
You can remove using the adb commands. You can find the package name by using the apk analyzer app.
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Been out of the game for a long time. You can do this without root?
thacounty said:
Been out of the game for a long time. You can do this without root?
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Well you can hide apps from the main user (you) with this trick but you can't actually delete the apk file from /system unless you have root.
I personally prefer Samsung messaging app, mainly because of the its UI.
However, the main advantage of Google messages is the availability of RCS by default, no matter where you live or which carrier you have. You can have RCS with Samsung messages but only if your carrier supports it.
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I was using Google Messages on my previous device, but with the S21 I couldn't set conversations to be mute (roaming messages i receive daily on my 2nd sim).
I can only make the notification silent for that conversation, but I don't even want the notification, which I cannot do.
Samsung Messages have this ability
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Ah, really? I haven't had that problem with my S21U whilst using Google Messages. How were you trying to mute them?
NippleSauce said:
Ah, really? I haven't had that problem with my S21U whilst using Google Messages. How were you trying to mute them?
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In Samsung Messenger the no notifications option (bell icon with a bar on it) will not even show a notification in the Android notifications area (When I open Messages I will see there is unread messages in the silent conversation), while Google Messages it will still show a notification but without sound.
I use Google Messages because for some reason, MMS won't send or receive in Samsung Messeges.
If anyone has a fix for this....
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Wish you could uninstall the samsung contacts, calendar, calc, clock, messages, phone etc.... it's the one thing that irritates me with samsung that they spend all this effort replicating what google already does a perfectly good job of.
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IMO... Google doesn't really do a good job with most things other than its search algorithms, ad monopoly and data rape....
whitehawk66 said:
IMO... Google doesn't really do a good job with most things other than its search algorithms, ad monopoly and data rape....
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Exactly, especially their UI. I have a pixel phone and many years after the launch of material design Google still doesn't use it in all its apps. The apps feels completely separate, each has it's ow design and colors. Some apps have dark mode with full black background (setting app) while others have dark gray background (contacts, messages,...). Let's not talk about YouTube, which still doesn't follow MD 2...
I like how samsung use the same design language for all its apps and they pay particular attention to small details just like IOS

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