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[Q] Why some Z1 models can not unlock the bootloader?

Hi, I'm from Mexico and bought a Z1 in Telcel plan (the original model was 6906) I have about 4 years using phone android, I wanted the HTC One but take long time to get here to Mexico, so desperate and buy me this Z1 and I'm really disappointed as I do not understand why some models like mine can not unlock the bootloader, because among other things I can not flash any custom room, or having a good kernel tweaks. (I really love Carbon room) All this regardless of the phone too easily scratched screen, and failures of touch sensitivity on the right edge, I guess be for the location of the buttons.
anyone of you know why?.
Sorry about my bad english.
Thank you.

Because your phone is on Contract and they locked the Sim and Bootloader for security. One day when the contract expire or your phone get old you will be able to unlock sim but no bootloader. It's a deal made between your Carrier Network and Sony. If you buy a Unbranded and Sim Unlocked Z1 you don't have this problems.

eclyptos said:
Because your phone is on Contract and they locked the Sim and Bootloader for security. One day when the contract expire or your phone get old you will be able to unlock sim but no bootloader. It's a deal made between your Carrier Network and Sony. If you buy a Unbranded and Sim Unlocked Z1 you don't have this problems.
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That is not true !
Stop leading people the wrong way !
I bought my Z1 branded and sim-locked and i was allowed / able to unlock my bootloader. So, what you said has nothing to do with reality. And by the way ... could you tell us how you got that information?
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bogdan wst said:
That is not true !
Stop leading people the wrong way !
I bought my Z1 branded and sim-locked and i was allowed / able to unlock my bootloader. So, what you said has nothing to do with reality. And by the way ... could you tell us how you got that information?
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It is in that way but no all the Carrers Applay that method. Just google it. This argue was mention 100 times on XDA too.

OMG
"ecliptos" - You are everywhere in this forum. I see you like to spend a lot of time on your computer. But please ... If you want to help some people on the forum ... give them good / real / complete information about what they are asking. If you aren't sure about something (as i've seen you many times), then don't mislead people and don't fill up the threads with unnecesary posts. They do not give you a prise for having 10k posts.
p.s. - JAEL65 - please excuse my offtopic.
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OMG
"ecliptos" - You are everywhere in this forum. I see you like to spend a lot of time on your computer. But please ... If you want to help some people on the forum ... give them good / real / complete information about what they are asking. If you aren't sure about something (as i've seen you many times), then don't mislead people and don't fill up the threads with unnecesary posts. They do not give you a prise for having 10k posts.
p.s. - JAEL65 - please excuse my offtopic.
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Co za Ku....a z ciebie! If you think is not that way you are welcome to come here and prove me wrong if not don't come here and telling me what I should or not. I do what I can and people learning everyday, me too. Thank you, bye.

Why some Z1 models can not unlock the bootloader?
Thanks, there are many topics dealing with this but there is no a clear answer, I already flash one room unbranded but 6903 because as I said the original model was 6906 so I have unlocked the sim, I read out there on xda that taking it to sony service, as has unlocked the sim, they can change unlocking bootloader allowed: NO by Yes.
I'll try this way.
Greetings.

It's about specific negotiations between Sony with each Carrier
Telcel decided they wanted to keep the bootloader locked, thus C9606 will be permanently closed.
There are ways around this, but it WILL void warranty.
Good luck.
I'm currently evaluating unlocking bootloader as well.

Hobbes2099 said:
Telcel decided they wanted to keep the bootloader locked, thus C9606 will be permanently closed.
There are ways around this, but it WILL void warranty.
Good luck.
I'm currently evaluating unlocking bootloader as well.
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Unlocking Bootloader will avoid warranty in any case, Yes or No, buy actually the Developers on XDA they saying is no way around and you can't unlock if the Bootloader Unlocking Allowed is set up to NO. So when you buy a phone from a any Carrier make sure the Bootloader Unlocking Allowed is set up to Yes.

Hobbes2099 said:
Telcel decided they wanted to keep the bootloader locked, thus C9606 will be permanently closed.
There are ways around this, but it WILL void warranty.
Good luck.
I'm currently evaluating unlocking bootloader as well.
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omg, no, you are so wrong
If it says no you can't unlock, they're us no way around it..
I don't want to live on this planet anymore
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eclyptos said:
Unlocking Bootloader will avoid warranty in any case, Yes or No, buy actually the Developers on XDA they saying is no way around and you can't unlock if the Bootloader Unlocking Allowed is set up to NO. So when you buy a phone from a any Carrier make sure the Bootloader Unlocking Allowed is set up to Yes.
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Here in mexico punish us with prices, sony officially sold the Z1, at $ 1000 usd (no brand) With a 2-year contract I could get $ 350 usd in telcel. Besides, very few models get really good, slow to arrive and bring an outdated firmware. Google does not sell their phones officially. But I want to unlock the bootloader because I am almost certain now that the bugs are resolved that brings z1, soon going to release a firmware google edition for z1 (I really wish it) and I need to unlock the bootloader to install.

jael65 said:
Here in mexico punish us with prices, sony officially sold the Z1, at $ 1000 usd (no brand) With a 2-year contract I could get $ 350 usd in telcel. Besides, very few models get really good, slow to arrive and bring an outdated firmware. Google does not sell their phones officially. But I want to unlock the bootloader because I am almost certain now that the bugs are resolved that brings z1, soon going to release a firmware google edition for z1 (I really wish it) and I need to unlock the bootloader to install.
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Check your bootloader, just write *#*#7378423#*#* and go to Service Info > Configuration > Rooting Status if there is Bootloader Unlock Allowed: NO probably you can't unlock your bootloader. Call Sony Center and ask if this is possible but no guarantee about that.

gregbradley said:
omg, no, you are so wrong
If it says no you can't unlock, they're us no way around it..
I don't want to live on this planet anymore
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Are you positive about this?
I was under the impression you could get around the locked bootloader even if the device says No.
I'm not sure if I even want to try because I would permanently lose the Bravia Engine should I succeed. I'm not sure what it's supposed to do, but it sounds nice.
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if the device says unlocked bootloader: No, then it cant be done.
sim lock and bootloader locked are depends on your carrier, there are carriers that they have locked the sim only and still allows bootloader unlocked.
but some carriers locked both. you can get a phone which allows to unlocked bootloader, if you buy a free sim phone or bought not in the carrier contract but from other store like sony store or any store that sells free sim phone.
please dont make things complicated.

Hobbes2099 said:
I'm not sure if I even want to try because I would permanently lose the Bravia Engine should I succeed. I'm not sure what it's supposed to do, but it sounds nice.
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With Unlocking Bootloader you will lose X-Reality, which is not a big deal anyway because it not improve the images, and Bionz processing but actually this not influence the functionality of the camera at all. No body said about Bravia Engine, I hope not.

I am from Mexico too. My bootloader is not allowed
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Hahaha....what a crazy answers...
Guys can't tell what's the difference between SIM and boot lock but are here first to be smart....
I must say, I feel in love in XDA when I was on my Xperia S, now... I just wanna hit my self with some blunt object...
Of course, thumb up for all nice people here...
Sent from my Z1

any luck yet?
I just wondered if anyone had gotten any news from Sony as to if the bootloader on a not allowed model van be unlocked in anyway?
I'm aware that threads exist and ppl are flashing roms on handsets with locked bootloader but I think those are allowed to unlock theirs.
Is there still no way to unlock bootloader on disallowed models either officially or unofficial?
I want custom rom

Just to add a little clarity to this, gregbradley helped me a lot with this.
If you've bought the phone from a carrier then there is a distinct chance that the bootloader unlockable status will be a flat no.
What does this mean?
This means that you will never (unless someone cracks it, highly unlikely) be able to unlock your bootloader.
If you bought your phone from certain carriers (like 3 in the UK, or so i'm told) or from third parties like carphone warehouse in the UK, then you WILL be able to unlock the bootloader, as the status for unlocking the bootloader will read "Yes".
If you see a yes then youre in luck, if it reads no then you most certainly will not be able to unlock the bootloader.
Further to this, Sony will not help you with this whatsoever, I have asked and asked and got little more than a scripted response, they WILL NOT help you to unlock your bootloader.
The sim being locked to a particular network means nothing to the bootloader, it's simply a coincidence that third parties who have bootloader unlockable phones are too sim free.
Hope this clears things up for people who weren't sure.
AFAIK, it is at the carriers request that the bootloader is in this state, not Sony's, probably why they won't help with it, but that's a guess.

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magic mushroom said:
I just wondered if anyone had gotten any news from Sony as to if the bootloader on a not allowed model van be unlocked in anyway?
I'm aware that threads exist and ppl are flashing roms on handsets with locked bootloader but I think those are allowed to unlock theirs.
Is there still no way to unlock bootloader on disallowed models either officially or unofficial?
I want custom rom
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You can still have all the goodness of custom roms m8, you just won't be able to flash kernels like doom kernel and or AOSP rom's and CM10 based roms.
In all fairness, youre not missing out on too much, but I was the same when i had a locked phone, the grass always appears to be greener on the other side until you realise it's actually not.

Australian Carrier OEM Unlock option?

I have an N950F that I got through Vodafone (Build#NMF26X.N950FXXU1AQI1, CSC: VAU/VAU/VAU). When I go into Developer Options, there is no setting for OEM Unlock. Not sure if it means that the phone isn't locked to Vodafone to start with or if I need that setting to flash TWRP and then Magisk? I know the bootloader is unlocked (Exynos model) but the OEM Unlock setting seems to be causing a lot of confusion, with some people having it and some not.
Does anyone with a N950F bought through an Australian carrier have the OEM Unlock option in Developer Options?

Mate, I have an unbranded Note 8 that doesn't have OEM Unlock on it... Not sure what goes on there but this is a bit of a kick in the nuts for those that want to unlock...
We either flash a new recovery and brickour shiny new device or we can't in fear that it will brick...
I spent too much money on mine to try an experiment that more than likely will end in pain and anguish...

ultramag69 said:
Mate, I have an unbranded Note 8 that doesn't have OEM Unlock on it... Not sure what goes on there but this is a bit of a kick in the nuts for those that want to unlock...
We either flash a new recovery and brickour shiny new device or we can't in fear that it will brick...
I spent too much money on mine to try an experiment that more than likely will end in pain and anguish...
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I have the same problem and when I called Samsung Australia asking to unlock OEM, they said they don't have any information and cant give any advice.

ultramag69 said:
Mate, I have an unbranded Note 8 that doesn't have OEM Unlock on it... Not sure what goes on there but this is a bit of a kick in the nuts for those that want to unlock...
We either flash a new recovery and brickour shiny new device or we can't in fear that it will brick...
I spent too much money on mine to try an experiment that more than likely will end in pain and anguish...
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What CSC is your Note using? XSA? I don't think you'll brick your device, it'll just not work.
demang said:
I have the same problem and when I called Samsung Australia asking to unlock OEM, they said they don't have any information and cant give any advice.
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Well, either they have information and refuse to tell us (which is a pretty f**ked attitude towards customers who've paid for their flagship device) or they don't know a key piece of information about a device they sell at a premium.
I'm not sure which option is the most infuriating but both are totally unacceptable.

Torquemada288 said:
What CSC is your Note using? XSA? I don't think you'll brick your device, it'll just not work.
Well, either they have information and refuse to tell us (which is a pretty f**ked attitude towards customers who've paid for their flagship device) or they don't know a key piece of information about a device they sell at a premium.
I'm not sure which option is the most infuriating but both are totally unacceptable.
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Using XSA..
Not surprising really that the help desk offers little to no help.....
Most times they have no idea about what you ask. I'm sure they look up on PC any problems asked about and can pretty much guarantee that Samsung won't want to help anyone unlock their device. The custom roms that are made make them look bad.....

ultramag69 said:
Using XSA..
Not surprising really that the help desk offers little to no help.....
Most times they have no idea about what you ask. I'm sure they look up on PC any problems asked about and can pretty much guarantee that Samsung won't want to help anyone unlock their device. The custom roms that are made make them look bad.....
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what is your carrier provider?

demang said:
what is your carrier provider?
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I have an Unbranded unlocked phone.
I put a Telstra sim in it. I also have a Kogan sim (Vodafone network) I haven't tried as yet..

ultramag69 said:
I have an Unbranded unlocked phone.
I put a Telstra sim in it. I also have a Kogan sim (Vodafone network) I haven't tried as yet..
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I checked kogan and vodafon 5min call. I was counting on Telstra. Did you check telstra 5min call?

demang said:
I checked kogan and vodafon 5min call. I was counting on Telstra. Did you check telstra 5min call?
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Mate, I call the olds every other day-dad has cancer and just checking in- I'm generally on the phone for at least an hour...
I've had this phone for since Tuesday the 19th... I got it pretty much the day after the supplier got their stock....

ultramag69 said:
Using XSA..
Not surprising really that the help desk offers little to no help.....
Most times they have no idea about what you ask. I'm sure they look up on PC any problems asked about and can pretty much guarantee that Samsung won't want to help anyone unlock their device. The custom roms that are made make them look bad.....
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Fortunately, since Samsung have made the OEM Unlock option such a pain for so many users, devs are working hard to make an app that will make this option visible to everyone. Guess we'll just have to wait until they figure it out. It's very early days for dev work on the Note 8 and using it without root isn't nearly as bad as it has been with previous phones. The need for root is still there for me, but not as urgent as it once was.

I also have unbranded bought from Samsung Australia it also don't have oem option, wth is wrong with Samsung. Is it becoming a new Apple?

I've re-checked in Developer Options and now the OEM Unlock option is there. One theory is that the visibility of this option is triggered by time, such as the official launch date or maybe some other measurement, like the amount of time since the device has been used (I booted up my Note 8 for the 1st time exactly a week ago). I suggest that you periodically check Developer Options as the OEM Unlock option may become visible without any user intervention.

Torquemada288 said:
I've re-checked in Developer Options and now the OEM Unlock option is there. One theory is that the visibility of this option is triggered by time, such as the official launch date or maybe some other measurement, like the amount of time since the device has been used (I booted up my Note 8 for the 1st time exactly a week ago). I suggest that you periodically check Developer Options as the OEM Unlock option may become visible without any user intervention.
Which network are you on? From where did you buy the phone? Can you please share soft info page screenshot?
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Superduper01 said:
Which network are you on? From where did you buy the phone? Can you please share soft info page screenshot?
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On the Vodafone network and bought through Vodafone.

Torquemada288 said:
On the Vodafone network and bought through Vodafone.
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Lucky you, i bought from Samsung Australia and it is unbranded but still no oem unlock, i am on kogan which also uses Vodafone. Lets see if mine also get lock automatically

Superduper01 said:
I also have unbranded bought from Samsung Australia it also don't have oem option, wth is wrong with Samsung. Is it becoming a new Apple?
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I've bought from Samsung directly as well (XSA firmware). Currently on Optus.
The OEM unlock toggle didn't appear at first which irritated me, however with the software update last week all I had to do was disable and re enable developer options, and bingo. It's there.

tripleacs said:
I've bought from Samsung directly as well (XSA firmware). Currently on Optus.
The OEM unlock toggle didn't appear at first which irritated me, however with the software update last week all I had to do was disable and re enable developer options, and bingo. It's there.
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Yeah!! Oem unlock function appeared for me as well.....

Also got mine pre-order from Voda, currently running N950FXXU1AQI1/XAU (19/09/17). Arrived on the 19th, I guess we'll see tomorrow if OEM unlock magically appears in developer options.
I'm not holding my breath though, Samsung have clearly decided to put a 'lock' in place which disables OEM unlock & which also stops the CSC being changed which might otherwise enable OEM unlock on a phone which doesn't have it (most of them).
Looks like most of us are probably waiting until someone inevitably breaks the lock, which will happen sooner or later, just probably not as quickly as if it was the flagship model (I.E the SGS8) with more developers working on the device.
Edit - Nope. I have my doubts about the 'time device used' theory. There's some other factor involved here. It doesn't even seem to be firmware dependent; poster in another thread also running AQI1 has it, I don't.

I have a Telstra branded model I bought of my nephews girlfriend and I cannot get OEM Unlock on it, and it won't allow me to do Wifi-Calling unless it has a Telstra sim card in it.
I have no reception where I live so rely on wifi calling and the fact that flashing XSA or even an Optus firmware doesn't work as it defaults back to Telstra, I am in a bind.
The only way I can change the CSC is with root, but I cannot root the phone without OEM unlock, so its an expensive wifi only phablet at present.

I got the oem unlock option on my note 8 n950f. I bought it unlocked from Harvey Norman Vicroria. I purchased it on 22 september and got the option now. Attached is proof and version I have. Im also using an optus sim only plan.

How do I unlock the OEM on the SM-N960U T-MOBILE Samsung Galaxy note 9?

I've had it 10 days (assuming relevant), and after entering the developer options, I am not able to find the OEM unlock options.

quantum88 said:
I've had it 10 days (assuming relevant), and after entering the developer options, I am not able to find the OEM unlock options.
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Return it, and buy an unlockable device.

If it's like the AT&T version, you need the unlock code from T-Mobile. The option to disable a carrier lock is not in developer mode.

j101399j said:
If it's like the AT&T version, you need the unlock code from T-Mobile. The option to disable a carrier lock is not in developer mode.
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I got it from T-Mobile

quantum88 said:
I've had it 10 days (assuming relevant), and after entering the developer options, I am not able to find the OEM unlock options.
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You can't OEM unlock a snapdragon model

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If it's like the AT&T version, you need the unlock code from T-Mobile. The option to disable a carrier lock is not in developer mode.
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He's talking about OEM unlock for the bootloader not carrier lock

TechOut said:
He's talking about OEM unlock for the bootloader not carrier lock
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My mistake, thank you for clarifying.

TechOut said:
You can't OEM unlock a snapdragon model
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Is that just for now or a certainty?

quantum88 said:
Is that just for now or a certainty.
Well it didnt happen on the s9 that i know of so.....
And even if you could whats the point? its not like you can flash twrp or anything else lol.
sent from my S9 Plus (Exynos) Pixel 2XL or Note FE
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force70 said:
quantum88 said:
And even if you could whats the point? its not like you can flash twrp or anything else lol.
sent from my S9 Plus (Exynos) Pixel 2XL or Note FE
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force70 said:
What do you mean?
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Your BL is locked, there is nothing for you to gain be enabling OEM unlock. The people with unlockable devices have to enable OEM to flash twrp...you cannot therefore it is pointless.
Well at least in my point of view, why do you want to enable it?
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t mobile sm-n960u unlock ???
Ok I have been on this site for a long time.
Sorry I am not or I do not have to brain power most of you have here on this site doing what you do best
making are phones better a lot of you have the nack for this stuff
at&t note 2 rooted with the help and info from this site htc m7 rooted here t mobile note 4 and note 5
now I jumped and for the fist time I got a current model phone a t junk mobile note 9
I was going to buy an unlocked note 9 from best buy but they said they did not think there phone had the 600mhz B71 band that t junk mobile is suppose
to come out with
but I am thinking about returning this phone to t junk mobile I just get the unlocked one from best buy
this phone would not be that bad if I can get rid of t junk mobile ad on boot up logo and jingle sound but I found an app silent boot to fix that but
that is adding anther app on my phone that I really do not want
So Question? did Samsung finally beat this forum In lets say hacking there phone's???
if so and you can not root a phone you just paid $1000. for would it not be best just to get a phone that can be rooted to get rid of all the dam junk apps
and all of the dam AD'S that you get these days on the phones!! there I said it I do not like crap ass adsssssss that keep popping up!
SAMSUNG you spend $1000 to have to keep seeing ad's you did not ask to see
I am kind of thinking of returning this phone to t junk mobile and looking into a HTC phone
Question 2
is anyone working on rooting this sm-n960u phone and twrp??
I see venom has a rom that suppose to work on a ms-n960u so what do you need to do to install that if no root is available

The simple answer is that you can't unlock the bootloader on the US market phone. You haven't been able to do so since the Galaxy S7. I think it likely has a lot to do with KNOX integration for security reasons. The complicated answer is that there were ways to root the S7 by flashing a developer bootloader (engboot or something like that). The catch is that while you could root it, the phone would run like crap, overheat, bad battery life, etc. Some claimed to have decent success with it though. Likely something similar will happen with the Note 9 as well as. An unlocked phone is carrier unlocked, meaning you can activate it on any supported carrier. It has nothing to do with the bootloader.
Long story short, no, you can't unlock the bootloader, no, you can't flash twrp, and you'll find actual development for the US market phone to be essentially non-existent. If that is important to you, return this phone. Coming from rooting and flashing all of my phones prior to the S7, I honestly don't miss it. IMO, there's nothing to be gained, and it's a huge time suck. Life is too short and I'm too busy to spend an evening setting things up for the 5th time, troubleshooting battery life issues, etc. Not to mention that my job related security apps aren't going to work on a rooted phone.
Now, as far as "junk apps" not sure what you mean. These phones are now pretty clean actually, and most things can be uninstalled or disabled from within stock android. And as I found out many times in the past, if something is unable to be disabled, it's probably for good reason.
As far as ads, also not sure what you mean. Web browser ads can be blocked through extensions that Samsung browser supports. In app ads can be eliminated by paying for the app. Really, if you can't afford $3 for an app that you frequently use, I'd question how you can afford a $1000 phone.

MerlinTT said:
now I jumped and for the fist time I got a current model phone a t junk mobile note 9
I was going to buy an unlocked note 9 from best buy but they said they did not think there phone had the 600mhz B71 band that t junk mobile is suppose
to come out with
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That's incorrect. The unlocked version is fully compatible with T-Mobile.
MerlinTT said:
So Question? did Samsung finally beat this forum In lets say hacking there phone's???
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Samsung has been locking bootloaders since the S7? It's been a few years. Even when someone found a way to beat it, it was severely limiting to your device. You said you're not new here. This is pretty common knowledge with Samsung devices.
MerlinTT said:
if so and you can not root a phone you just paid $1000. for would it not be best just to get a phone that can be rooted to get rid of all the dam junk apps
and all of the dam AD'S that you get these days on the phones!! there I said it I do not like crap ass adsssssss that keep popping up!
SAMSUNG you spend $1000 to have to keep seeing ad's you did not ask to see
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Uh, what ads? That's not a samsung thing, I think you just installed some ****ty apps.
MerlinTT said:
I am kind of thinking of returning this phone to t junk mobile and looking into a HTC phone
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Hoooo boy. You might want to look into HTC phones before you buy one.
MerlinTT said:
Question 2
is anyone working on rooting this sm-n960u phone and twrp??
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Yes. And they've been working on the S9 too, which still can't be beaten. And a proper way to unlock the S8, without limiting your battery to 80%.
And why exactly is T-Mobile "junk"? Maybe you need a different carrier.

I hate pink and that dam t mobile jingle i got rid of the jingle with an app silent boot but sorry that pink ***** boot screen????they added
that has to go
Grumpy

MerlinTT said:
I hate pink and that dam t mobile jingle i got rid of the jingle with an app silent boot but sorry that pink ***** boot screen????they added
that has to go
Grumpy
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If a color is challenging your sexuality, you have deeper problems than an unrootable phone.

MerlinTT said:
I hate pink and that dam t mobile jingle i got rid of the jingle with an app silent boot but sorry that pink ***** boot screen????they added
that has to go
Grumpy
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I think your problems go well beyond the color of your boot screen. Seek help. The kind of help you need we're not qualified to provide here. How often do you see the boot logo screen anyway?

MerlinTT said:
Ok I have been on this site for a long time.
Sorry I am not or I do not have to brain power most of you have here on this site doing what you do best
making are phones better a lot of you have the nack for this stuff
at&t note 2 rooted with the help and info from this site htc m7 rooted here t mobile note 4 and note 5
now I jumped and for the fist time I got a current model phone a t junk mobile note 9
I was going to buy an unlocked note 9 from best buy but they said they did not think there phone had the 600mhz B71 band that t junk mobile is suppose
to come out with
but I am thinking about returning this phone to t junk mobile I just get the unlocked one from best buy
this phone would not be that bad if I can get rid of t junk mobile ad on boot up logo and jingle sound but I found an app silent boot to fix that but
that is adding anther app on my phone that I really do not want
So Question? did Samsung finally beat this forum In lets say hacking there phone's???
if so and you can not root a phone you just paid $1000. for would it not be best just to get a phone that can be rooted to get rid of all the dam junk apps
and all of the dam AD'S that you get these days on the phones!! there I said it I do not like crap ass adsssssss that keep popping up!
SAMSUNG you spend $1000 to have to keep seeing ad's you did not ask to see
I am kind of thinking of returning this phone to t junk mobile and looking into a HTC phone
Question 2
is anyone working on rooting this sm-n960u phone and twrp??
I see venom has a rom that suppose to work on a ms-n960u so what do you need to do to install that if no root is available
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There are two types of "unlocked": carrier and bootloader. BestBuy meant carrier unlocked, or the N960U1. The hardware is equivalent to the carrier version (N960U; there's only one model now for all the carriers), and the only software difference is that it doesn't come with the carrier bloat. Same hardware and firmware means it supports B71. However, it cannot be bootloader unlocked.
You have two options if you want a bootloader unlock: the N9600 or the N960F. Neither supports B71, but both do support B66. Remember, B71 isn't all that important yet. It's only been rolled out in a few places and TMO is concentrating more on 5G right now.
The N960F has a mod you can flash to enable TMO WiFi Calling and VoLTE and the other carrier features. I'm running it now and it works fine. It did sort of convert my phone to a Chinese variant, which meant I was stuck with the super aggressive Smart Manager instead of Device Manager, but I modified it to let me use Device Manager again. I might be posting the modified version if I can get permission.
The fact is that, yes, Samsung kind of beat the rooters. However, anyone who really wants to root usually just gets the F or 0 variant, and those who can live without make do with the plethora of non-root tweaks. There are actually quite a few adblockers and package disablers designed for TouchWiz that work without root, such as DNS66 or notSABS.
I don't know anything about flashing modified TouchWiz ROMs on the U variant, but it might be possible. It won't have root though.
Really, if you want a rootable Samsung, go with the N960F. You can get it on Amazon new with Prime for under $900 (without Prime it's $800). It has TWRP and Magisk works fine. If you want WFC PM me so I can share my modified mod (heh). I'll also be working on a set of other miscellaneous modifications to TouchWiz.

SM-N960U
So in old slow world of us phone dummies that try to keep up with all the brain power that this site has been good for in unlocking phones over the years, oh ya and when you all talk that doctors language and write it
to where us dummies have to read and reread over and over again and again to unlock are phones after you all figured it out!!
So what you are saying in the current Samsung world rooting is a thing of the past! Samsung won the hacking war!!! and us pe-ons are mostly stuck with carrier banded phones or unlocked that loses carrier bands and options!
Unless we pay some merc to kidnap you and have some doctor transfer your brain power into are brains so we have the brain power to hack and mod are locked phones then if we are kind have that brain power transferred back to your brains!!!!
I should have stayed with my note 4
oh ya my man hood is just fine they hang lower then yours but that happens with old age how low??
it is great with the younger ladies big is a big deal today
like older ladies with big you know what age affects them to and the younger guys can not stop looking
just do not like pink
Grumpy

T-Mobile OP6T - my plan for this phone

Here is the plan boys.
1. Wait for my T-Mobile OP6T to arrive
2. Use phone for 40 days
3. Sim Unlock the phone with T-Mobile
4. Unlock Bootloader: https://support.oneplus.com/app/ans...-bootloader-for-oneplus-6t-(t-mobile-version)
5. Flash non-TMobile OS version https://www.oneplus.com/support/softwareupgrade
6. Profit from receiving direct updates from OnePlus instead of Tmobile
Let me know what you think of the plan

Pretty much all of our plans at this point, unless an exploit or bypass is found.

coolmaster121 said:
Here is the plan boys.
1. Wait for my T-Mobile OP6T to arrive
2. Use phone for 40 days
3. Sim Unlock the phone with T-Mobile
4. Unlock Bootloader: https://support.oneplus.com/app/ans...-bootloader-for-oneplus-6t-(t-mobile-version)
5. Flash non-TMobile OS version https://www.oneplus.com/support/softwareupgrade
6. Profit from receiving direct updates from OnePlus instead of Tmobile
Let me know what you think of the plan
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More to the above I want to get a dual sim slot and see if I can use dual sims once the OP OS version.

heartbreaker2020in said:
More to the above I want to get a dual sim slot and see if I can use dual sims once the OP OS version.
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That's what I'm talkin' about.......... :good:

Don't you have to have the device paid off in full before you can Sim unlock?
If so, rather just buy directly from OP.

I am afraid your plan won't work even if you get your bootloader unlocked.

zain0300 said:
I am afraid your plan won't work even if you get your bootloader unlocked.
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Interesting.
I purchased the Sprint variant of the Essential Phone and that allowed me to flash the non Sprint version, and get updates directly from Essential, so that answer is all BS.
I learned not to trust TMobile reps or OnePlus comments as they have no idea what the F*uck they are talking about most of the time.

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Interesting.
I purchased the Sprint variant of the Essential Phone and that allowed me to flash the non Sprint version, and get updates directly from Essential, so that answer is all BS.
I learned not to trust TMobile reps or OnePlus comments as they have no idea what the F*uck they are talking about most of the time.
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I hope he is wrong too but this coming from a OnePlus rep does have some weight. We will know in 40 days.

zain0300 said:
I hope he is wrong too but this coming from a OnePlus rep does have some weight. We will know in 40 days.
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By the way, when I boot my phone it still says Sprint variant and all, but the software is not based on what Sprint is using on the Essential phone. SO the phone does not get magically changed, the software however is able to be switched over.
I guess its just a waiting game.
Anyone know if OnePlus releases full images off their phones so users can flash the stock images if they ever screw up the phone with modding?

coolmaster121 said:
By the way, when I boot my phone it still says Sprint variant and all, but the software is not based on what Sprint is using on the Essential phone. SO the phone does not get magically changed, the software however is able to be switched over.
I guess its just a waiting game.
Anyone know if OnePlus releases full images off their phones so users can flash the stock images if they ever screw up the phone with modding?
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Yes they do at downloads.oneplus.com but looks like 6t section has not been added yet.

If your bootloader is unlocked and you're flashing roms, why does it matter if you get updates from OnePlus? They'll be posted here to flash the day they're pushed internationally.

heartbreaker2020in said:
More to the above I want to get a dual sim slot and see if I can use dual sims once the OP OS version.
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OP phones are pretty easy to mod and I'm 99% sure we will be able to flash global version of OOS. Though we're gonna need a guinea pig to try out the process.. I just hope the codename is same (fajita) for the TMo variant.

#5 is not possible. Phone is locked down pass the bootloader.

I'm just going to return mine. I may get the 6t later but that finger print sensor is pretty meh at the moment. I do like the water drop notch and bigger battery tho
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charlieb620 said:
#5 is not possible. Phone is locked down pass the bootloader.
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Once you unlock the bootloader, you should be able to flash TWRP then flash the global version of OOS. And as I said before, hoping that both the variants have the same codename.

You can get it unlocked now via TMobile. Many have. I went to TMobile help on Twitter and told them I wanted to unlock the bootloader. They bypassed the standard unlock policy. I was able to permanently unlock, toggle oem unlocking, and request my unlock code from OnePlus.

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You can get it unlocked now via TMobile. Many have. I went to TMobile help on Twitter and told them I wanted to unlock the bootloader. They bypassed the standard unlock policy. I was able to permanently unlock, toggle oem unlocking, and request my unlock code from OnePlus.
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Stupid question but did you pay off the device? Or do you still owe a balance

NikoZBK said:
Stupid question but did you pay off the device? Or do you still owe a balance
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Nope. I still owe full amount. I did the trade in, but that's it. They didn't challenge it one bit.

dchurch85 said:
Nope. I still owe full amount. I did the trade in, but that's it. They didn't challenge it one bit.
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Oh wow, thanks for the heads up. Will try now

NikoZBK said:
Oh wow, thanks for the heads up. Will try now
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Let me know how it goes for you. I used TMobile help on Twitter.

Are Snapdragons(g975u) still unable to be unlocked?

Haven't heard any updates on whether or not the bootloader are still locked

U heard right!!! It will never happen. U better off buy the chinese/hong kong g9750 verison if u want u unlock bootloader and root

Player04 said:
U heard right!!! It will never happen. U better off buy the chinese/hong kong g9750 verison if u want u unlock bootloader and root
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Thanks. Haven't gotten a galaxy since the S5. Looks like they went cheap and used the same model for the the US ones instead of separate carrier ones.

Samsung needs the Snapdragon models locked down. It goes hand in hand with their secure offering including Knox etc. in those markets.
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Yep the bootloader is locked. A dev on here was working on unlocking it and got it unlocked, but he said it relocks almost instantaneously before he can do anything with it. You can still use themes though.