Don't want to tempt anyone here but I've just noticed that unlocked HD7s are selling on ebay for between £400 and £550 a pop.
Crazy. Why would you pay that? Have these people never heard of using a shop? Or at least checking the going rate online.
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Don't want to tempt anyone here but I've just noticed that unlocked HD7s are selling on ebay for between £400 and £550 a pop.
Crazy. Why would you pay that? Have these people never heard of using a shop? Or at least checking the going rate online.
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I saw this its so crazy if i had the upfront cash i would so get in on that.
It's that price on eBay because:
1. It's only release in europe at the moment
2. US people can't be bothered to wait and usually order from overseas
3. It's unlocked
Main 3 factors which bumps up the prices.
That does explain some of the sales but plenty of sellers say they won't ship outside of the UK.
I checked some of the inflated completions and a lot of them seem to be bought by bidders with zero feedback. Something funny going on there.
Yea the zero feedbacks do sound a bit dodgy...
But with the ones that ain't shipping out of UK, it's unlocked, so people will pay anything just to put their Vodafone/Orange/Tmobile sim in it.
What i don't get is that you can do it yourself if you just buy it from O2. Learning how to unlock it will take like 15minutes for a newbie.
Indeed.
For the zero bid ebay buys I wonder if it's a way of making a product look more expensive than it really is. People probably decide on what's a bargain partly based on how much stuff tends to sell for.
So, if you flood the place with extortionately priced handsets and create ebay IDs to buy them people will presume that's the going rate and be willing to shell out more.
If an item sells then great. You go out to O2, buy one, unlock it and put in post to buyer. If it looks like it won't sell you use a fake ID to make it look like it sold and later get your advertising money back due to 'buyer' not sending payment.
Devious if true.
Hey all, just interested if anyone has bought their Xperia from this site
http://www.buymobilephones.net/sony/sony-xperia-z
specifically on one of these deals http://www.buymobilephones.net/mobi...hree/30-ultimate-internet-300-24mths/14941085
Looks amazing and on speaking to 3 it'll only cost me £26 to pay off my existing contract. Then I could get the XZ earlier and cheaper then if I was to upgrade directly with 3....
Anyone?
didn't buy the xperia from that site, but have bought phones before off that site. they are reliable and have good customer service through their twitter account. delivery was bit late however, but that was the couriers fault not theirs.
praveen7796 said:
didn't buy the xperia from that site, but have bought phones before off that site. they are reliable and have good customer service through their twitter account. delivery was bit late however, but that was the couriers fault not theirs.
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Cool thanks. This is good to know. Madness how they can offer such good deals though when 3 themselves charge a lot more for the contracts. Nearly £200 more over the 2 year period for the same phone on the same contract!!
hey guys, i'm looking to buy a new z1 in new-york or USA in general, best deal i've seen yet is 595$ in ebay including a charging dock.
do you know of a better place? sony's shop sells it for 650$ online.
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hey guys, i'm looking to buy a new z1 in new-york or USA in general, best deal i've seen yet is 595$ in ebay including a charging dock.
do you know of a better place? sony's shop sells it for 650$ online.
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I would buy direct from Sony. There is a part in the terms and conditions that say if you do not buy it from a authorised Sony reseller, then the warranty may not be valid.
I bought mine off ebay. Its now been 5 weeks and its still not back. I'd never do that again!
If you're a student or college faculty member, you can buy from Sony for 10% off (I think). So it'll be around $585
EDIT: only on the Sony USA store...
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If you're a student or college faculty member, you can buy from Sony for 10% off (I think). So it'll be around $585...
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I'm a contract lecturer but I can't... perhaps that's just America?
New Zealand only offer apple discounts.. however often big franchise stores have more discounts.
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If you're a student or college faculty member, you can buy from Sony for 10% off (I think). So it'll be around $585...
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well i am a student but i don't live/study in usa, just there for a visit... can i still get it??
plus the company who imports sony to israel (where i live) does not respect international sony warrenty, only devices bought directly from them... so it's no use to me either way...
Wheres reliable source to buy a c6906 in the US?
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Well sony's price was without taxes, so I guess ebay is cheapest, thanks for the suggestion
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Well sony's price was without taxes, so I guess ebay is cheapest, thanks for the suggestion
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Amazon doesn't charge tax also, I have a like new Z1 white 6903 listed on amazon for 568+shipping
there's another idiot who has a NEW one selling for 579+59 shipping, giving customers the impression that a NEW one is that cheap but it's actually at least $600 new. Pisses me off, I remember when ebay was full of those listings where the price is low but the shipping is expensive
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Amazon doesn't charge tax also, I have a like new Z1 white 6903 listed on amazon for 568+shipping
there's another idiot who has a NEW one selling for 579+59 shipping, giving customers the impression that a NEW one is that cheap but it's actually at least $600 new. Pisses me off, I remember when ebay was full of those listings where the price is low but the shipping is expensive
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Ohhh, but I want a black one...
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It's now sub 1200 Euros in Germany, if you look around a bit. Nearing 1100 in a few places.
Price has cratered harder and faster than any phone in living memory.
Samsung must be pumping these out of the factory pretty quickly, and not intending for new models to take as long as Fold 1 to Fold 2.
I can see this going below 1000 around Black Friday, and definitely by the New Year. If it's not already replaced by the end of Q1 '21, I'd imagine the phone might see significant development and community involvement, below 1k.
You're insane.
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Really, care to explain why? Lowest retail price has dropped over 700 Euros in less than 2 months.
Samsung are well known for front-loading pricing, and quickly tapering it to distributors and wholesalers, but it's never been quite like this. The device is clearly intended to sell in volume, and not be the flagship for anything like as long as the Fold 1.
Re: development, plenty of 800-1200 Euro devices see lots of development.
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It's now sub 1200 Euros in Germany, if you look around a bit. Nearing 1100 in a few places.
Price has cratered harder and faster than any phone in living memory.
Samsung must be pumping these out of the factory pretty quickly, and not intending for new models to take as long as Fold 1 to Fold 2.
I can see this going below 1000 around Black Friday, and definitely by the New Year. If it's not already replaced by the end of Q1 '21, I'd imagine the phone might see significant development and community involvement, below 1k.
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Some links as evidence of brand new / unused prices as per your post?
The €1200 price you mention is a scam. No one is getting the phone for that price.
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In the next two days I am going to buy a brand new in box Z Fold2 for €1.000 or less in Germany.
Not from a shop (several are offering them for €1.150 already) granted, but in Germany a lot of Z Fold2 have been included in a subscription renewal package where people just keep their current phone and monetize the Z Fold2.
I see the prices going down almost daily. It's a simple matter of supply and demand.
Check out https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/
The same thing happened with previous Samsung flagships.
LG devices also depreciate very quickly, but that is because noboby wants them and LG has to lower the RRP to sell them.
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In the next two days I am going to buy a brand new in box Z Fold2 for €1.000 or less in Germany.
Not from a shop (several are offering them for €1.150 already) granted, but in Germany a lot of Z Fold2 have been included in a subscription renewal package where people just keep their current phone and monetize the Z Fold2.
I see the prices going down almost daily. It's a simple matter of supply and demand.
Check out https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/
The same thing happened with previous Samsung flagships.
LG devices also depreciate very quickly, but that is because noboby wants them and LG has to lower the RRP to sell them.
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No phones at that link.
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Wow, never used a search box?
https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/s...+handy_telekom.device_equipment_s:only_device
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The €1200 price you mention is a scam. No one is getting the phone for that price.
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I know it's probably a foreign concept, but supply chains and retail channels are relatively competitive in Europe .. particularly Germany.
Probably seems unreal to you when informal price fixing in a hugely non-competitive market rules in the US ... and you just got a Verizon Fold 2 for $$$$$$$$$$, with no hope of waiting for discounts.
Why do you think anyone with a clue in the US buys from European retailers? Price including tax in Europe (which you don't pay) is usually much cheaper than price excluding tax at US retailers, save for Apple. That's what no competition does.
And now you're mad and refuse to believe anything.
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Wow, never used a search box?
https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/s...+handy_telekom.device_equipment_s:only_device
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Those are pretty much all either used or branded / locked to a network.
Show me a link to a commercial seller who sells sim free new sealed box Fold2 including full 2 year official Samsung warranty ... if you can't then just delete this thread
Not true, as I have explained most of them are new in wrapped box with full Samsung European warranty.
And as far as I know no German provider sells these branded and/or SIMlocked.
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Those are pretty much all either used or branded / locked to a network.
Show me a link to a commercial seller who sells sim free new sealed box Fold2 including full 2 year official Samsung warranty ... if you can't then just delete this thread
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Lol.
Are you really not able to use price comparison sites or enter search terms and use filters on Ebay?
Rhetorical question. Evidently not.
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Not true, as I have explained most of them are new in wrapped box with full Samsung European warranty.
And as far as I know no German provider sells these branded and/or SIMlocked.
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I don't think any contract phones have been branded / locked for 5-6 years in DE ... and he appears to be implying these are secondhand contract phones. I'm not even sure heavily subsidised pay as you go phones are branded anymore.
Lowest retail price for sealed NIB Fold 2 in DE is 1149.99 today. It has been lower. Trend is still downwards quickly though.
I bought one of these z fold 2 of Germany.
1215€ and came sealed... I activated Samsung care+
I dont know the reason of the low prize of those phones, but are real and legal.
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I bought one of these z fold 2 of Germany.
1215€ and came sealed... I activated Samsung care+
I dont know the reason of the low prize of those phones, but are real and legal.
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Another one that bought the phone on ebay on the german market.
At the beginning I thought it was not real, but it cames everything brand new and the price with the discount of 50€ you can get it for 1.215€.
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santjust said:
Another one that bought the phone on ebay on the german market.
At the beginning I thought it was not real, but it cames everything brand new and the price with the discount of 50€ you can get it for 1.215€.
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I bought this Fold 2 for one month ago too in Germany ebay kleinanzeigen 1350 Euro) . some people buy buissness phone cards with a fold 2 and they sell the fold 2 and use the phone card.
Now it is sometimes a little bit cheaper but ok .... I use it for over a month now and I love this phone ! So great stuff Samsung did here ...
You can buy these used for around $1400 US off of Ebay (which is around 1250 Euro, which is what I see it for on the German eBay site). Hoping for a slight bit more of a price drop from Black Friday, but I noticed that Samsung is still selling it for its original price, and they've dropped the price of trade ins by around $200.
I don't know why anyone would have paid full price in the US as it was on sale the opening day at every possible outlet and you would have had to literally give them more money than they were asking for the device in order to pay MSRP; I paid 1600 directly from Samsung's site on pre-order for the unlocked variant and others did better. Day one the latest greatest is always going to be more expensive than it will be just a short time later; you all know that, I'm not telling you something you didn't know. You do need to put it on a level playing field though, you can't compare the MSRP here to the actual price somewhere else at a different time, you have to compare actual price at the same specific time in order to get a valid comparison.
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I don't know why anyone would have paid full price in the US as it was on sale the opening day at every possible outlet and you would have had to literally give them more money than they were asking for the device in order to pay MSRP; I paid 1600 directly from Samsung's site on pre-order for the unlocked variant and others did better. Day one the latest greatest is always going to be more expensive than it will be just a short time later; you all know that, I'm not telling you something you didn't know. You do need to put it on a level playing field though, you can't compare the MSRP here to the actual price somewhere else at a different time, you have to compare actual price at the same specific time in order to get a valid comparison.
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I'm looking to buy it again, and I'm not seeing all these great deals. Samsung's site is $1999, unless you trade in a device. The deals on eBay are ok for a used device, but not great. Amazon has some refurbs for $300 off, which is ok, but again, it's a refurb, to which they only promise that you won't notice a problem "holding it at arm's length". I haven't seen any sign of a new unit coming down in price from $2k.
Flavio said:
In the next two days I am going to buy a brand new in box Z Fold2 for €1.000 or less in Germany.
Not from a shop (several are offering them for €1.150 already) granted, but in Germany a lot of Z Fold2 have been included in a subscription renewal package where people just keep their current phone and monetize the Z Fold2.
I see the prices going down almost daily. It's a simple matter of supply and demand.
Check out https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/
The same thing happened with previous Samsung flagships.
LG devices also depreciate very quickly, but that is because noboby wants them and LG has to lower the RRP to sell them.
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Be very wary of purchasing a phone tied to a network contract.
These phones may get blacklisted a few months down the line if the original owner doesn't pay the bill, or if they have insurance and claim a month or two later that it has been lost or stolen.
... I know this from experience ... you could end up with a 1000 euro "tablet" that cannot use a sim card anywhere in EU
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Be very wary of purchasing a phone tied to a network contract.
These phones may get blacklisted a few months down the line if the original owner doesn't pay the bill, or if they have insurance and claim a month or two later that it has been lost or stolen.
... I know this from experience ... you could end up with a 1000 euro "tablet" that cannot use a sim card anywhere in EU
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It's good advice, and I am worried about it. I see a number of devices for sale that say they're on a contract. Kind of terrifying that someone decides to switch providers and suddenly my phone is blacklisted.
Starting to hope for a Black Friday sale!