So i have a theory on why halos form, other than due to the curvature of the screen - Galaxy Note5 Accessories

My theory is that the adhesive over a relatively short period of time, loses moisture and tackiness, especially around the edges since it is closest to the outside environment being exposed to air. Some may be worse than others. As some and myself have done, they added heat by using a hair dryer (I used the high setting), thereby slightly melting the adhesive and making it stick again. So far after one night, halos have not returned. So yes, its worth the extra 5 minutes it takes to remove the halos instead of spending more time, effort and money to find that "perfect" screen protector.

But why do certain phones have the problem and others' do not?
Maybe combination of both?

I'm currently fighting best buy over the halo issue. No way I'm paying them 40 bones for an ill fitting glass. The manager just agreed to refund if I stop in tomorrow. Three in a row were bad.
If the assistant manager had been less of an A-hole then I could've hair dryered the last one but he ripped it out of the box when I got there because he was pissed that the manager was forcing him to do the exchange. Store sold me their install service tho and guaranteed "perfect" installation. The look on his face when he realized the halo wasn't gonna press out was almost worth it. Thought he was gonna crush my phone at one point. Then the back pedaling was insane. The excuses, the lies, the arguing. Honestly proud of myself for not acting the same way these clowns did.
Ugh

situman said:
My theory is that the adhesive over a relatively short period of time, loses moisture and tackiness, especially around the edges since it is closest to the outside environment being exposed to air. Some may be worse than others. As some and myself have done, they added heat by using a hair dryer (I used the high setting), thereby slightly melting the adhesive and making it stick again. So far after one night, halos have not returned. So yes, its worth the extra 5 minutes it takes to remove the halos instead of spending more time, effort and money to find that "perfect" screen protector.
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Just need to make smaller screen protector glasses. Like this one www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B014R5DMIU/r...tor+note+5&dpPl=1&dpID=51K-GB6qY9L&ref=plSrch
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ambervals6 said:
Just need to make smaller screen protector glasses. Like this one www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B014R5DMIU/r...tor+note+5&dpPl=1&dpID=51K-GB6qY9L&ref=plSrch
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Isn't that a PET film?
I have a PET film on my N5 now, the one from Spigen, and after installing multiple glass protectors, its sheer joy to apply film that goes on perfectly and fits perfectly in a matter of a few minutes. No rubbing, not hairdryers, and unlike glass, all N5 owners are likely to a 100% halo-free install, as long as it's installed accurately.
Sure, I prefer the feel of glass, but DAMN, this looks amazing! My N5 looks as awesome as it should. Halo-ed protectors really look like crap on this phone.
PET films are a great alternative for those of us who are frustrated with glass protectors.

billykxda said:
Isn't that a PET film?
I have a PET film on my N5 now, the one from Spigen, and after installing multiple glass protectors, its sheer joy to apply film that goes on perfectly and fits perfectly in a matter of a few minutes. No rubbing, not hairdryers, and unlike glass, all N5 owners are likely to a 100% halo-free install, as long as it's installed accurately.
Sure, I prefer the feel of glass, but DAMN, this looks amazing! My N5 looks as awesome as it should. Halo-ed protectors really look like crap on this phone.
PET films are a great alternative for those of us who are frustrated with glass protectors.
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It is glass. The best.
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Bestskinsever and the Nexus S

Well as soon as I ordered my Nexus S, I also placed an order for a full body BSE skin. I was in Hong Kong at the time and had it shipped to my Canadian address so I could apply it upon my return. A week after ordering it, I noticed BSE started a BOGO promotion which kind of made me but whatever....
Finally after weeks of walking on eggshells using the phone naked worrying about everything and anything scratching it, I returned home and was able to apply the BSE.
I cracked open the envelope, and to my surprise, there were 2 sets of skins inside! Thanks BSE!! They really are an amazing company when it comes to customer service/everything, (I had a mistake with a previous order and they promptly rectified it by sending the proper skin) this time they knew they had an upcoming BOGO promotion and they simply honoured that for me, no questions asked (literally!) so a big cudos to them for that.
Onto the product.....the fit is AMAZING. Considering this skin was available on launch day, thats a pretty impressive feat on its own. I was originally intending on just using the back skin, but once I saw how well done the full body was, I decided to do it all.
The skin includes 1 large cover for the back, and again, fit is perfect. Cutouts for the camera/flash, the speaker, and the USB/mic on the bottom. Also includes a full front skin, again with cutouts for speaker and cam. Lastly, it includes 3 strips, one for the top, and 2 for the sides, meeting at the bottom.
Installation was a breeze, did it in a steamy bathroom for the first time and I think it really helped. I used a big bowl of warm water and 1 tiny drop of dish soap for the 'solution', dipping each piece in this fully before beginning the application.
How does it look? Amazing. 24 hours later there are a FEW tiny bubbles still, but from past experience, I know these will go away within a few more days as the skin starts to cure. The skin is porous so if you get a few bubbles, don't worry, they will evaporate just give it some time. Phone feels great now, has a real solid feel, almost as solid as my Nexus one, and has nice grip to boot. No more worrying about the thing sliding out of my hands.
Only complaint I have is, the screen is VERY glossy now, if there is direct light, reflections are pretty bad. I may remove the front protector in time if this starts to piss me off more, but I think I will be ok as the insane amount of protection I now have is probably well worth a bit of gloss, just being honest. I really like the fact my phone is now *extremely* well protected. From past experience with shields, I can attest to the fact they WILL protect it from a drop of around 5 feet (my iphone fell right out of my pocket onto hard asphalt....the corner of the skin looked like ass after that drop, but upon removal, the iPhone was still perfect), anything higher than that and well.....you dug your own grave....most shields/cases would be useless after a 10ft drop to begin with sooooo.....combine this with general care and your Nexus S should be mint for years to come. I hate big ugly cases, and keep it all nice and snug in my old Nexus One sleeve, I feel *extremely* confident about the phones protection.
All in all, great product, and extremely happy overall. I feel great knowing I have a spare in my drawer for in the future, in case I DO drop the thing again......Dont have pics yet as, well, the Nexus S is pretty much my camera I'll dig out my HTC Aria and try and post some pics soon.
For 9 bucks, this is probably the deal of the year HIGHLY RECOMMENDED
Nice to read, ordered my BSE skins last friday. I already have some small scratches on the plastic back cover, but they are only visible in direct sunlight with reflection.
Guess the skins will be nice then.
ViLANDER said:
Nice to read, ordered my BSE skins last friday. I already have some small scratches on the plastic back cover, but they are only visible in direct sunlight with reflection.
Guess the skins will be nice then.
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Haha I did also get a tiny scratch on the back my phone also by accidentally putting it in the days designated 'change' pocket (dammit), and dropping it off my bed after playing with it one night hdjbfsdg
The shield covered them completely....keeps looking better by the hour literally as it cures.
can someone post a link to the product. not sure what I am looking for.
http://www.bestskinsever.com/google-nexus-s-skin
Here are the promised pics, sorry about the poor quality, the camera being used is an Aria...
Blimey spaceman...are u sure there's a BSE on there?...lol...can't wait for mine now..
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Does the total body skin include the screen skin? Or do I have to buy both of them if I want to cover the NS ENTIRELY?
I got mine just today! Excellent! I am really very surprised at the quality considering this is half the price of the likes of zagg.
Here is BSE on my HD7, I have an order in for my NS already.
Sorry if this has been asked before, but does this screen protector have the same type of texture as the InvisibleShield ones? (orange-peel texture/bumpy).
How's the friction on these? Smooth or sorta sticky?
justsignbythex said:
Sorry if this has been asked before, but does this screen protector have the same type of texture as the InvisibleShield ones? (orange-peel texture/bumpy).
How's the friction on these? Smooth or sorta sticky?
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It is basically the same material as the InvisibleShield ones....so your mileage will vary on how it looks when it comes to bumps and orange peel. I have been using these 'shield' type protectors on my last few devices, and the number 1 thing I learned is the end result is entirely up to how well the installation goes. The first time I installed one back on my iPhone it looked pretty bad at first, but again after a few days it cleared up for the most part. This time I installed mine in a steamy bathroom and was meticulously anal during application, and it looks great.
They do give a bit of grip, but nothing that impedes touchscreen performance IMHO. The phone feels a lot safer and a lot more secure in my hand now thats for sure, and ultimately thats the reason I put this thing on in the first place
I've tried the Zagg screen protector on my Nexus S when i first got it from Best Buy since it was the only screen protector out at the time and it sucked...the orange peel was terrible and the screen was really grippy and not smooth to use. I got my BSE a few days ago and it looks less bumpy but the biggest advantage is that the screen is actually smooth when you use it. I have no complaints about BSE and heck it's only 9 bucks with shipping for the full body while zagg was 20 bucks for just the screen
Did you take the back off for installation?
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Just installed mine. Easy installation and fantastic finish - can't even tell it's there after 24 hours.
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How did you apply yours? I'm scared that the water will fall into the speaker hole at the back.
Did u use soap + water?
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How did you apply yours? I'm scared that the water will fall into the speaker hole at the back.
Did u use soap + water?
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I only applied a protector to the screen. Yes, I added a tiny drop of dishsoap and used a spray bottle to apply a fine mist of water to the screen protector. Laid it on and then used a microfiber cloth to work out any bubbles.
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I bought a full body BSE and mucked it up. I applied it dry since I've never done a BSE before. The back is okay with some bubbles and dust, but the front was a mess. I replaced it with an eBay matte antiglare one now. It does the job but dulls the screen. On the plus side the screen is fingerprint resistant now and feels smooth.
To answer some of the recent questions
Yes I removed the back before applying the skin to the back, just made it so much easier.
As mentioned before I used a bowl of warm water with the smallest drop of dish soap inside. I then dipped the skins completely in the water and gave them a bit of a shake, that was it for the water. I had a paper towel handy and as I squeegied the water out I always had the paper towel with light pressure on the back to absorb any and all water leakage.
I also did it in my bathroom with the shower cranked on full heat with the doors+window+fan all closed. The hot steamy environment made it MUCH easier due to the fact there was no dust/hair/whatever flying around. Made for a painless application, and it looks great.
Here we are a few weeks later and the skin looks absolutely amazing now. Not a single air bubble, all gone. Its near impossible to tell the skin is here unless you know its there, or notice the seams on the corners. Love love love love love love love this skin. Would never ever throw a bulky case on my phone after using this.
How is the feel on the screen? Is it rubbery like the ZAGG ones or smooth like Clarivue ones or somewhere in between?
spacemanspiff33 said:
To answer some of the recent questions
Yes I removed the back before applying the skin to the back, just made it so much easier.
As mentioned before I used a bowl of warm water with the smallest drop of dish soap inside. I then dipped the skins completely in the water and gave them a bit of a shake, that was it for the water. I had a paper towel handy and as I squeegied the water out I always had the paper towel with light pressure on the back to absorb any and all water leakage.
I also did it in my bathroom with the shower cranked on full heat with the doors+window+fan all closed. The hot steamy environment made it MUCH easier due to the fact there was no dust/hair/whatever flying around. Made for a painless application, and it looks great.
Here we are a few weeks later and the skin looks absolutely amazing now. Not a single air bubble, all gone. Its near impossible to tell the skin is here unless you know its there, or notice the seams on the corners. Love love love love love love love this skin. Would never ever throw a bulky case on my phone after using this.
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Wrapsol Ultra: Dry v. Wet Application

Hey,
I just got got a Nexus S (upgrade from Nexus One w00t! ) and I'm really interested in getting a skin for it. I'm looking specifically at buying a Wrapsol one since I've read that it doesn't have the orange peel effect. I'm just confused over the "ultra protective film" (UPF) and the "original scratch protection" (OSP) that they're selling. I know that the UPF is a dry application and is $30 while the OSP is $25. I've put on many screen protectors in my life before but this is gonna be my first entry into the world of skins. What's the main difference between a dry and wet application protector? What is the better choice? Thanks for your help!
The only difference between wet and dry applicator is pretty much just the method of putting it on. Some people are not comfortable with spraying liquid on their phone so dry applications may appeal to them. The problem I see with this is that unless you are super pro like the guy in the video, you're going to have a frustrating time applying a dry protection on a curvy device like the nexus s. You pretty much have one shot at aligning everything. With a wet application, you can moisten the adhesive and actually slide the film around to align the curves perfectly and slowly work your way through.
I'm not sure about the difference in texture. I've seen some degree of orange peel in all wet applications with zagg being the worst. I'm not sure if wrapsol is orange peel free either due to the nature of the scratch resistant material used to make these film. I believe they use polyurethane.
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I purchased a wrapsol protector for my s and honestly I regretted it the second I put it on. They said it stretches to fit the entire screen but it didn't and it doesn't have a hole for the front facing camera so images are blurry. I'm glad they have a 30 day money back return period cause this is going back as soon as my sgp protector comes.
peeturr said:
The only difference between wet and dry applicator is pretty much just the method of putting it on. Some people are not comfortable with spraying liquid on their phone so dry applications may appeal to them. The problem I see with this is that unless you are super pro like the guy in the video, you're going to have a frustrating time applying a dry protection on a curvy device like the nexus s. You pretty much have one shot at aligning everything. With a wet application, you can moisten the adhesive and actually slide the film around to align the curves perfectly and slowly work your way through.
I'm not sure about the difference in texture. I've seen some degree of orange peel in all wet applications with zagg being the worst. I'm not sure if wrapsol is orange peel free either due to the nature of the scratch resistant material used to make these film. I believe they use polyurethane.
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Thanks for the insightful response! One of the things that has scared me away from things like Zagg and other wet application skins is the fact that after a couple of days, weeks, or months, the skin starts to peel off off the corners. Is that still a problem with skins today? (I saw the peeling off the corners a couple of years ago from my friends' blackberries.) Or is that more of the user's fault? I heard that you should ceram-wrap the devise completely also while it's drying so that everything sticks. Is that true? Is there an effective way of applying the skin so that they don't peel off by themselves off corners over time?
myboygino said:
I purchased a wrapsol protector for my s and honestly I regretted it the second I put it on. They said it stretches to fit the entire screen but it didn't and it doesn't have a hole for the front facing camera so images are blurry. I'm glad they have a 30 day money back return period cause this is going back as soon as my sgp protector comes.
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Thanks for letting me know about the screen protector! I'm already planning on using a Clarivue screen protector. I'm more curious about the back and side protection itself. How were they? Did they have the orange peel effect? How did they feel like? Did you use the wet or dry one? How easy was it to apply? Lastly, did the skin ever start peeling off by itself?
Again, thanks for all of y'all's responses!
I personally use ghost armor and haven't experienced any peeling over a month now. The installation is crucial and patience is key. I wouldn't go so far as to ceram wrap the device. Just make sure you press on all edges and curves for 15 seconds or so once it begins to adhere to make sure it sticks permanently. Another tip is to lightly heat those areas with a hair dryer. It is very important that you keep your hands free, work in a lint free area, and let it dry for 24 hours. Don't put in your pocket for a day or two. The reason is because if dust accumulates on any part of the edge, it will lose adhesive there and make it prone to lifting or peeling. If you can get past the drying stage, then you shouldn't experience any peeling unless forced.
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peeturr said:
I personally use ghost armor and haven't experienced any peeling over a month now. The installation is crucial and patience is key. I wouldn't go so far as to ceram wrap the device. Just make sure you press on all edges and curves for 15 seconds or so once it begins to adhere to make sure it sticks permanently. Another tip is to lightly heat those areas with a hair dryer. It is very important that you keep your hands free, work in a lint free area, and let it dry for 24 hours. Don't put in your pocket for a day or two. The reason is because if dust accumulates on any part of the edge, it will lose adhesive there and make it prone to lifting or peeling. If you can get past the drying stage, then you shouldn't experience any peeling unless forced.
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Thanks! I'll definitely do what you suggested!
Well, I ended up ordering the Wrapsol wet application one. I'm just going to be using the back and side protection. I hope this goes well....
I've done both on 2 nexus S I own, I bought wrapsol because I could apply it dry.
However, after my experience with the 1st "dry" application I applied the second on "wet" why? because the end result is much smoother and less detectable.
btw if you are wondering why I need 2 Nexus S'es, one for me and one for the wife.
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I've done both on 2 nexus S I own, I bought wrapsol because I could apply it dry.
However, after my experience with the 1st "dry" application I applied the second on "wet" why? because the end result is much smoother and less detectable.
btw if you are wondering why I need 2 Nexus S'es, one for me and one for the wife.
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Cool, thanks for letting me know! I heard that the wet one is a matte finish. Is that true? Also, what did you think of the screen protector portion of the wet skin?
I actually wet the ultra protective film version, its glossy not matte. Its very thick compared to the Zagg Ive used in the past, someone said it was made of polyurethane.
so far so good I like the way it looks on the screen portion with a lot less orange peel than the Zagg.

New Type Screen Protector

Has anyone yet tried out this "new type" of screen protector yet?
http://www.cultofandroid.com/26901/...or-borrows-technology-from-bulletproof-glass/
Doc
Sounds neat, but anyone describing a screen protector as 'magic self healing' as a technology makes me skeptical.
I look forward to someone else reviewing it!
My screen is so hard it doesn't pick up scratches. Extra layers are just extra junk. Now if it provides some protection from breakage that would be useful. If I drop it on the ground is it any less likely to crack?
I don't disbelieve the article though. They have been working on self healing films for a few years. You can get self healing clear coat and paint on some cars. Maybe this would be useful for a construction worker who has to touch his screen with abrasive sandy grit. That WILL scratch our screen even though car keys and normal handling doesn't.
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I'd be interested to see how it heals scratches after some real abuse, like sandpaper. Keys and such are a worthless test at this point. It seems everyone has moved to something that can prevent scratching from those. But even the best current screens can't stop being scratched by a single grain of sand in your pocket. That alone is why I use screen protectors. It's not like I roll around in a sand dune then put the phone in my pocket, but even being VERY careful with a prior "Gorilla Glass" type screen, I got a couple scratches on it from sand. The only "glass" I know of that can prevent that is the Sapphire crystal that you can get on nicer watches. Those are probably far too expensive to use on phones.
For now, I'm using a Clarivue glass protector. It's really nice, but does have some tiny lifting at the top corners. And it will scratch from sand, like any glass. But it's a lot cheaper and easier to replace the protector than the phone screen.
This is the only video of it I can currently find: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hosHv5k0IKI&feature=player_detailpage#t=764s
Not much of a review but it does show the "self healing" capability against a wire brush.
I'm considering getting one as I haven't yet bought a screen protector for my phone but feel I should do at some point.
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My screen is so hard it doesn't pick up scratches. Extra layers are just extra junk. Now if it provides some protection from breakage that would be useful. If I drop it on the ground is it any less likely to crack?
I don't disbelieve the article though. They have been working on self healing films for a few years. You can get self healing clear coat and paint on some cars. Maybe this would be useful for a construction worker who has to touch his screen with abrasive sandy grit. That WILL scratch our screen even though car keys and normal handling doesn't.
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I think that it is great that you don't pick up scratches but some people keep the phone in their pocket with keys, coins and other crap so something like this does make sense. I may try to go to a T-Mobile store and check it out.
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I think that it is great that you don't pick up scratches but some people keep the phone in their pocket with keys, coins and other crap so something like this does make sense. I may try to go to a T-Mobile store and check it out.
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So do I of course.
Keys and coins don't hurt this screen.
They haven't hurt most screens the last few years. My og evo after 2 years of rough careless handling with no case or screen protector was scratched up but only lightly and not enough to matter. That is, a lot of fine scratches but none of them deep, and the screen is still clear so they don't matter in any functional way. And it took 2 years to even get that way and it's not worth anything by then to try to sell it even if it were new and never used. My evo lte after 1 year of the same did even better and is almost unblemished. Only 1 year but it looks better than the og evo did at 1 year. My girlfriends iphone4 after 2 years of the same looks almost unblemished, although she handles hers a little more carefully than I do, but still, no screen protector and it rubs up on keys and hair clips and paper clips and coins in her purse and in the cup holder in the car.
The lest few years of hard glass screens are very hard just for this reason and they work pretty well.
The reason I mentioned sand is that sand or other hard mineral abrasive will scratch it. Most metals won't. Especially not chrome plated brass keys or copper/silver alloys in coins. My stainless steel multitool doesn't even. The tungsten carbide cutting wheel of a glass cutter would with enough concerted pressure.

Recommended screen protector

I never usually buy screen protectors for my devices, but since I'll be using this phone for a full two years, I think I should try to prevent as many scratches as possible. Can anyone recommend a good brand of screen protectors? I saw that Motorola makes an official one but it's $15.
I would like to know too didn't see any good ones out yet. I had spiegen for s4 and used indivisible shield before.
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I too like to use a name brand screen protector like Spigen. I went with the Verizon brand ones off of a recommendation from someone. 3 for $12, they're decent enough as a stopgap until bigger companies put theirs out. Of course, since Moto X is the same for all carriers, you can still order them even if not Verizon.
Halo. Look them up on Amazon. Feels just like glass
had invisashield but its cut horribly, testing the skinomi so far so good cheap/effective/cut perfectly
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Grabbed the Skinomi (at...1 cent? + shipping it was a no brainer!) but seems to pick up pocket lint (after having been on for 24 hours+), which is a problem I've never had before with any other screen protector. Also has some...I don't want to say bubbles, because they're not, but..ripples? ... near the bottom, which are noticeable when the screen is off. That said, the touch is just fine and besides those little issues at the bottom, it looks decent.
Have a few others to try that'll by here early next week.
I am waiting to find a tempered glass protector, I like how much more original it feels plus its much stronger than a sheet of plastic
Ordered the i-blason screen protectors and they should be in tomorrow, I'll give my take on em once I get them.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00E0...040_30332190_pe_175190_21431760_M3T1_ST1_dp_1
Ordered and received my Halo protectors from Amazon. They are awful, I wouldn't recommend them to anyone. The cut was terrible, and none of the 3 worked out. They felt like they were almost too long as well, having lift at either the top or bottom without a way to make it go away. Gonna get some from VZW as I hear they are good.
I only use halo. Mine is cut and fits perfect. Clarity is good and its feels just like the glass does
Just got my I-Blason screen protectors in. Took me all 3 just to get one without bubbles but the screen protector feels good and is very clear. Cut is a little small though so you gotta perfectly center the screen protector. Also for the top where the speaker and front camera is they just cut out a whole section instead of just the holes for the two.
I don't like wet installs (Zagg, and I think Skinomi is one too). I've used them in the past and have always encountered streaks despite drying, cloudy screens, or the dreaded orange peel (looking at you, Zagg).
I much prefer dry installs. The Verizon protectors are actually really good, surprisingly. Just turn on the hot shower for a few minutes, let it steam up, then install. Quite easy. The screen isn't clouded at all and still feels smooth as glass.
I love my Zagg HD. When/if they come out with a Zagg Extreme I will be buying one of those.
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Any tempered glass yet ?
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Yazzinit said:
I don't like wet installs (Zagg, and I think Skinomi is one too). I've used them in the past and have always encountered streaks despite drying, cloudy screens, or the dreaded orange peel (looking at you, Zagg).
I much prefer dry installs. The Verizon protectors are actually really good, surprisingly. Just turn on the hot shower for a few minutes, let it steam up, then install. Quite easy. The screen isn't clouded at all and still feels smooth as glass.
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I have never heard of this "hot shower steam up" method. Can anyone elaborate on why I would do that?
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I have never heard of this "hot shower steam up" method. Can anyone elaborate on why I would do that?
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Sure. Have you ever personally tried installing a dry protector say, in your room and you keep getting a few specs of dust under it? Well if you haven't, that's what happens lol. Really annoying, you get the protector down and that 1 spec flies in and you didn't see it, now you have to remove the film and try again, and some are impossible to get the dust off of the sticky side.
In the shower, you run a hot shower 10 minutes, then turn it off. Leave the door open just a small crack. Apparently, the steam causes the dust to rise with it, or fall, whatever the science is lol. Makes for no dust in the air to fall on your screen and allows for installing a dry protector really easy. Wipe with a microfiber cloth and install right there.
Yazzinit said:
Sure. Have you ever personally tried installing a dry protector say, in your room and you keep getting a few specs of dust under it? Well if you haven't, that's what happens lol. Really annoying, you get the protector down and that 1 spec flies in and you didn't see it, now you have to remove the film and try again, and some are impossible to get the dust off of the sticky side.
In the shower, you run a hot shower 10 minutes, then turn it off. Leave the door open just a small crack. Apparently, the steam causes the dust to rise with it, or fall, whatever the science is lol. Makes for no dust in the air to fall on your screen and allows for installing a dry protector really easy. Wipe with a microfiber cloth and install right there.
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Wow! I definitely will try this next time bc I always get dust under mine. Thanks.
Yazzinit said:
Sure. Have you ever personally tried installing a dry protector say, in your room and you keep getting a few specs of dust under it? Well if you haven't, that's what happens lol. Really annoying, you get the protector down and that 1 spec flies in and you didn't see it, now you have to remove the film and try again, and some are impossible to get the dust off of the sticky side.
In the shower, you run a hot shower 10 minutes, then turn it off. Leave the door open just a small crack. Apparently, the steam causes the dust to rise with it, or fall, whatever the science is lol. Makes for no dust in the air to fall on your screen and allows for installing a dry protector really easy. Wipe with a microfiber cloth and install right there.
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Just to clarify: Do not actually have your phone in the shower, just in the room with the shower.
Anyone had any experience with either of these two screen protector brands?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00E5QKHOY/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A3LQSX85N730QN
http://www.amazon.com/IQ-Shield-LIQ...7061&sr=8-13&keywords=moto+x+screen+protector
I just ordered a pack of five from amazon. Were cheap but I'm sure I'll get at least one that works. I have tried Zagg and Armor Suit and hated them both. Went naked for awhile on my S3 and just had one tiny scratch. I work around metal and grinding dust all day and only had that one scratch. Never put one on my S4 but only had it a few days. If you have to keep the phone for two years, then a screen protector maybe good for a while IMO.
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FesterTOR said:
I just ordered a pack of five from amazon. Were cheap but I'm sure I'll get at least one that works. I have tried Zagg and Armor Suit and hated them both. Went naked for awhile on my S3 and just had one tiny scratch. I work around metal and grinding dust all day and only had that one scratch. Never put one on my S4 but only had it a few days. If you have to keep the phone for two years, then a screen protector maybe good for a while IMO.
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What did you hate about Zagg and Armor Suit?

Does Zagg still make a wet application protector?

I have always used invisible shield on my devices. One reason was the wet application method their protectors use. I always have issues with dust, no matter what I do, but the application solution seems to rinse the dust out with it when you install the wrap. With a dry install if a single piece of dust lands on the screen on the install you're screwed.
Anyway, does anyone know if any of the Zagg (or other brand) protectors use a wet install?
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Ghost armor does. Not sure why you would want one though.. way too much friction for something with a stylus.
Goronok said:
Ghost armor does. Not sure why you would want one though.. way too much friction for something with a stylus.
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Would you say I'm ok without a screen protector then? I'm not one to throw my phone in my pocket with my keys or anything. I keep it in a pocket by itself. I would like one of the glass protectors but I've seen way too many bad things about them due to the screen being curved and causing a "halo" effect.
The "original" on their website I think. But that would be badddd with the pen.
Hezzennater said:
The "original" on their website I think. But that would be badddd with the pen.
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I remember the original being pretty sticky feeling on my old iPhone. I just bought an HDX Defense, but it is a dry install as I referenced above. Its pretty clear and almost as smooth as glass, but I couldn't get it on without any dust. I ALMOST did but one big piece hit the screen just as I was laying it down, and I ruined the protector getting the dust off. I'll be sending in for replacement to try again but I just don't see how I could ever get one of these on without a single piece of dust. When I clean off my phone and watch if for about 5 seconds I get 10-15 little dust particle in that amount of time..... Ugh.
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I remember the original being pretty sticky feeling on my old iPhone. I just bought an HDX Defense, but it is a dry install as I referenced above. Its pretty clear and almost as smooth as glass, but I couldn't get it on without any dust. I ALMOST did but one big piece hit the screen just as I was laying it down, and I ruined the protector getting the dust off. I'll be sending in for replacement to try again but I just don't see how I could ever get one of these on without a single piece of dust. When I clean off my phone and watch if for about 5 seconds I get 10-15 little dust particle in that amount of time..... Ugh.
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I do mine right in the bathroom after a shower. The steam helps keep the dust manageable. Also, use the tape hinge method so you can do it really fast after it's clean.
What is this tape hinge method? Also, I ran a ton of hot water in the bathroom to get the steam really going. It helped but I still got one piece of dust in there. =[ Probably took me about 15 seconds to apply, if I could do it in 3-4 seconds I could probably avoid all the dust.
I got the skinomi skin for my screen and its great. fits perfectly and no dust particles. it is not as smooth as glass or the plasticy screen protector, but I can do everything fine. prefer this over halos and dust around the halos.
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What is this tape hinge method? Also, I ran a ton of hot water in the bathroom to get the steam really going. It helped but I still got one piece of dust in there. =[ Probably took me about 15 seconds to apply, if I could do it in 3-4 seconds I could probably avoid all the dust.
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It's popular for sticking decals on cars n such. Once you place the protector where you want it, make a hinge out of a piece of tape. Fold back the protector, peel off the backing, and use the hinge to put the protector back on in the same place it was taped. Here's a video.
I wouldn't mind having one for the glass back. It would add some nice grip.
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tbh if you just don't abuse the phone you should be fine without a protector. After reading an article about it back when I had a Galaxy S3, I peeled my Zagg protector off and didn't even use one on the Note 3. After 2 years of heavy daily use, the Note 3 looked nearly brand new - only a few extremely light small scratches viewable from certain angles with just the right lighting. I will definitely not be using anything on the Note 5 for that reason.
I have a desk job though, and am generally careful with everything i own, however. My step brother on the other hand... he delivers/installs large home appliances. In the last 3 years he utterly destroyed 2 Galaxy S4's and an iPhone 5 because he doesn't take care of his stuff at all (both S4's had smashed screens, camera lenses etc destroyed through a full Otterbox Defender case).
In any case - I too would strongly advise against a Zagg wet protector on a phone with a stylus. It would basically make the stylus unusable.
If i recall correctly, the reason they discontinued the wet application was people were applying it improperly and causing damage to their phones.
Basically they stopped selling them to cover their butts from lawsuits.

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