Can I root + install a custom kernel if I am on software AOJ5? (N920C) - Galaxy Note5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I believe that you can't go back to older versions of software with this version, so do I need to wait for kernels and roms to be updated before I can root?
Thanks

Yes you can install Custom rom then root it then you can install Xposed also

Bofahad said:
Yes you can install Custom rom then root it then you can install Xposed also
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But it says you can't downgrade to old software after installing AOJ5
http://www.sammobile.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/note-5-update-609x540.jpg
From what i can see, all roms are on an older base

Yes you Can not downgrade and no need to downgrade and that was't your Question ,
You asked Can i root it and i answered Yes because i did

See the Kernal , enjoy

Bofahad said:
See the Kernal , enjoy
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So you can root, but not install custom rom and kernel (yet?)
Thanks

Man you have to install arter97 CWM recovery frist then arter97 kernal as i did in the attached pic , then install root.zip from the recovery with no problem at all

Bofahad said:
Man you have to install arter97 CWM recovery frist then arter97 kernal as i did in the attached pic , then install root.zip from the recovery with no problem at all
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Ok, but you are still on stock ROM?
Can you use xposed?

3473 said:
Ok, but you are still on stock ROM?
Can you use xposed?
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I'm on a stock ROM and was able to install Xposed framework using this method

Yes you can install Xposed on a stock rom

See attachment

can i get links for root?
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4.1.2 ZSLM5 kernel and rooting

Can I root this version:
N7000ZSLM5_N7000OZSLM5_TGY
With superSU-busybox-installer?
And after that I can use to access CWM features Philz-cwm?
If rooted, will I be able to flash hydracore?
provettirodolfo said:
Can I root this version:
N7000ZSLM5_N7000OZSLM5_TGY
With superSU-busybox-installer?
And after that I can use to access CWM features Philz-cwm?
If rooted, will I be able to flash hydracore?
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You just need to download PhilZ ZSLM5 kernel, reboot into stock recovery, flash kernel, then restart device. And thats it, you are safe and rooted all in one. (follow instructions in OP of Philz thread, everything is explained)
After that, dont flash any kernel please, you will have problems, Hydracore is ICS kernel, and it will not work properly on your ZSLM5 rom.
For now, the best one is PhilZ kernel
You can directly root with Philz LM5 kernel.. just flash it using stock recovery and you will get root and CWM.. no you cannot use hydracore on JB TW rom
Can you provide links to this kernel?
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Yeah
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Philz+kernel+galaxy+note
hello everyone,
I installed N7000XXLSZ for Germany whit Odin, can I use the same kernel+cwm+root from philz for XSLM5 or do I have to wait for the specific?
Thanks in advance
goroth89 said:
hello everyone,
I installed N7000XXLSZ for Germany whit Odin, can I use the same kernel+cwm+root from philz for XSLM5 or do I have to wait for the specific?
Thanks in advance
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till now all all JB kernels worked for all JB except (LS2 and Ls7).. so you could try one.. if any issues, you could install the rom.
for lonessm
nokiamodeln91 said:
till now all all JB kernels worked for all JB except (LS2 and Ls7).. so you could try one.. if any issues, you could install the rom.
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Thanks, I'm going to try and let you know
edit: It works
goroth89 said:
Thanks, I'm going to try and let you know
edit: It works
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can you link to the exact speedmod kernel that you used
would like to get it a try
No SpeedMod.. Philz Kernel LM5
---------- Post added at 06:59 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:57 PM ----------
goroth89 said:
edit: It works
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Yes there are roms already with LM5 kernel included
ilegales said:
can you link to the exact speedmod kernel that you used
would like to get it a try
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from philz thread I used ww*.mediafire.com/file/ad7fze2wx7m4wi0/PhilZ-cwm6-ZSLM5-OZS-4.35-signed.zip
flashed from stock recovery.

[Q] Video lag and freeze

Hello .. i have a problem ..
My mobile on JB 4.1.2 official but playing videos hang and freeze the device why is that with dual-core processor
*1* I use MXPlayer and tried MoboPlayer too .. both hang !!
*2* when I bought it at first run it updated itself to JB 4.1.2 and after done ... some crash at Gapps .. I Deleted cache and updated them and now all fine...
anything wrong with me !!
Thanks in advance.​
It's a problem depending on the firmware that you use
For example, while this doesn't happen on lpd, on lqg is annoying
Even though I'm not a super fan of cocore, I have to agree that, when you install cocore, independent of the firmware you're using this lag will stop
Or go to cm10.1...
So if its firmware error .. CoCore need time to understand it .. I'm new here with S advance and its devs. so I have to wait for other solution
ZaXpired said:
So if its firmware error .. CoCore need time to understand it .. I'm new here with S advance and its devs. so I have to wait for other solution
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Cocafe's kernel fixes this problem completely
But can have reboots
But, the last nightly is awesome!
Shiningb said:
Cocafe's kernel fixes this problem completely
But can have reboots
But, the last nightly is awesome!
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So if i installed custom rom will fix this problem ?​
ZaXpired said:
So if i installed custom rom will fix this problem ?​
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Yeah, you can install custom rom too
You can also stay on the same firmware, root, then follow the install procedures (install universal kernel flasher on playstore and etc)
Shiningb said:
Yeah, you can install custom rom too
You can also stay on the same firmware, root, then follow the install procedures (install universal kernel flasher on playstore and etc)
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I tried to read CoCore topic but i did not understand anything ​
so you must read it once again
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ZaXpired said:
I tried to read CoCore topic but i did not understand anything ​
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Try to read it again dude
Install universal kernel flasher from play store
Download any of the cocore kernel (if you're I9070p then its cocore ep) (recommended latest nightly v7.6)
Extract the md5 file and flash it using universal kernel flasher
Root your Phone install universal kernelflash. Download cocore v7.x zipfile.Unzip it to a dir. Load the md5 file from the zip into kernelflasher, and flash then reboot
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Thanks Guys for replies

How to install Recovery (CWM / TWRP) ??

Doesn't find any source.
Thanks
williamlaw said:
Doesn't find any source.
Thanks
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JB or GB? This is temporary CWM for JB http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1987313. If you want permanent CWM,you must flash CoCore kernel.
phyowaiummg said:
JB or GB? This is temporary CWM for JB http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1987313. If you want permanent CWM,you must flash CoCore kernel.
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CWM / TWRP will be flashed after flashed CoCo Kernel ??
'Cocore' ..and YES!
williamlaw said:
CWM / TWRP will be flashed after flashed CoCo Kernel ??
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Yes,CoCore kernel has built in CWM or TWRP. Only for JB.
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phyowaiummg said:
Yes,CoCore kernel has built in CWM or TWRP. Only for JB.
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Thanks man !
Is CoCore kernel compatible with Android v4.3? I'm on v4.1.2 & planning to upgrade to Android v4.3, but need to find ways to do a Nandroid & be able to run recovery if the upgrade fail or causes a lot of FCs. TQ.
xbean said:
Is CoCore kernel compatible with Android v4.3? I'm on v4.1.2 & planning to upgrade to Android v4.3, but need to find ways to do a Nandroid & be able to run recovery if the upgrade fail or causes a lot of FCs. TQ.
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We have CM 10.2 based ROMs with that version of Android. And those ROMs has its own kernel that has features of CoCore and ofcourse CWM recovery (except OMNI ROM that has TWRP). And those ROMs you can install without CWM/TWRP, you will have it after installation.
And if you want to go back from CM10.2+ ROM you need to flash stock or to repartition /preload partition - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2612540
Unable to Install Permanent CWM or TWRP on Galaxy S Advance I9070
Hello All.. M new on xda.. I m using Galaxy S Advance (DDULP8) I9070 Rooted..I want to update my mobile to 4.4.2 from 4.1.2. I tried hard to install permanent CWM / TWRP on my galaxy s advance. But unable to install :crying:. So provide me the easy way to install CWM / TWRP on my mobile.
I only can install Temporary CWM. Plz tell me that can i update my Galaxy S advance (ddulp8) to CM 11 thru Temporay CWM..Or plz provide me Step by step easy method to install permanent CWM / TWRP...Thnx in Advance
sandeep0229 said:
Hello All.. M new on xda.. I m using Galaxy S Advance (DDULP8) I9070 Rooted..I want to update my mobile to 4.4.2 from 4.1.2. I tried hard to install permanent CWM / TWRP on my galaxy s advance. But unable to install :crying:. So provide me the easy way to install CWM / TWRP on my mobile.
I only can install Temporary CWM. Plz tell me that can i update my Galaxy S advance (ddulp8) to CM 11 thru Temporay CWM..Or plz provide me Step by step easy method to install permanent CWM / TWRP...Thnx in Advance
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Flash cocore kernel using frapeti's tool. And you get a permanent recovery. Then flash cm 11 and gapps for 4.4.2
method
szzlgupta said:
Flash cocore kernel using frapeti's tool. And you get a permanent recovery. Then flash cm 11 and gapps for 4.4.2
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Plz provide the link also..m really thanksfull to you..
sandeep0229 said:
Plz provide the link also..m really thanksfull to you..
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Universal kernel flash tool
[Kernel][Feb 16] CoCore-E 9.0
CM11 ROM from Team Canjica - WIP
GApps for CM11/KK
link
szzlgupta said:
Flash cocore kernel using frapeti's tool. And you get a permanent recovery. Then flash cm 11 and gapps for 4.4.2
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Dear Sir,
Plz provide me the link of cocore kernel for rooted galaxy s advance 4.1.2 (ddulp8). Thnx in advance
sandeep0229 said:
Dear Sir,
Plz provide me the link of cocore kernel for rooted galaxy s advance 4.1.2 (ddulp8). Thnx in advance
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I've just put the necessary links in the post above. Have you read it?
which one
R_a_z_v_a_n said:
Universal kernel flash tool
[Kernel][Feb 16] CoCore-E 9.0
CM11 ROM from Team Canjica - WIP
GApps for CM11/KK
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Sir, I had open your link, but there are 3 type of version of cocore.
(CoCore-E-9.0-CWM.zip - [Click for QR Code] (8.57 MB, 593 views)
File Type: zip CoCore-E-9.0-CWM-Touch.zip - [Click for QR Code] (8.70 MB, 302 views)
File Type: zip CoCore-E-9.0-TWRP.zip - [Click for QR Code] (9.96 MB, 346 views)
which 1 i can download
sandeep0229 said:
Sir, I had open your link, but there are 3 type of version of cocore.
(CoCore-E-9.0-CWM.zip - [Click for QR Code] (8.57 MB, 593 views)
File Type: zip CoCore-E-9.0-CWM-Touch.zip - [Click for QR Code] (8.70 MB, 302 views)
File Type: zip CoCore-E-9.0-TWRP.zip - [Click for QR Code] (9.96 MB, 346 views)
which 1 i can download
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You can download any. First is the normal cwm. Second is the cwm with touch and the third one is twrp recovery.
Bestest Custom Rom For Galaxy S Advance
szzlgupta said:
You can download any. First is the normal cwm. Second is the cwm with touch and the third one is twrp recovery.
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@ szzlgupta & ALL :- Really Thnx 2 all of uh.. I successfully installed CWM & CM 11 on my Galaxy S Advance
Now 1 question more..Plz tell me which one is bestest rom for Galaxy S Advance m using CM11 (Maclaw) Version. Plz provide me step & Link of the bestest custom rom..Tnx in advance
sandeep0229 said:
@ szzlgupta & ALL :- Really Thnx 2 all of uh.. I successfully installed CWM & CM 11 on my Galaxy S Advance
Now 1 question more..Plz tell me which one is bestest rom for Galaxy S Advance m using CM11 (Maclaw) Version. Plz provide me step & Link of the bestest custom rom..Tnx in advance
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Forum rules do not allow threads about best ROMs.
If you are happy with CM11, good. If not try the other ROMs and find out which is the best for you.
CM11 Hangs
rog_star said:
Forum rules do not allow threads about best ROMs.
If you are happy with CM11, good. If not try the other ROMs and find out which is the best for you.
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Recently i had installed CM11 custom rom on my Galaxy S Advance. After installing my mobile hangs some time. Some time Gallery, youtube, music player works very slow. Now i want to revert back to stock firmware. Plz guide me how to restore my device to stock firmware. I have Last Stock firmware CWM Backup which i backup before updating to CM11 & Stock firmware zip file every thing. plz advice me which method is the best for revert back to stock firmware. Thnx in Advance
sandeep0229 said:
Recently i had installed CM11 custom rom on my Galaxy S Advance. After installing my mobile hangs some time. Some time Gallery, youtube, music player works very slow. Now i want to revert back to stock firmware. Plz guide me how to restore my device to stock firmware. I have Last Stock firmware CWM Backup which i backup before updating to CM11 & Stock firmware zip file every thing. plz advice me which method is the best for revert back to stock firmware. Thnx in Advance
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Just flash Stock Rom with Odin. And then restore your Backup.

[Q] How to install android Kiktkat 4.4 on my Samsung Galaxy Note Gt-N700

Hello,
I want to install Kitkar 4.4 on my Samsung Galaxy Note GT-N7000(India).
I'm completely not aware for this android installation. So please help me.
Please tell me steps and download links. I tried steps which is i got fro internet but most of the time file location was banned by government or removed. So again tried with CWM but still i got stuck. Now I'm using Android Jelly Bean 4.1.2, Build no- JZO54K.N7000DLSC, Kernel version- 3.0.31-906407(SMP PREEMPT WED MARCH 6 19:53:40 KST 2013). This is my phone details. Please suggest me for this model.
Thanks in advance.
Rahul.
I use Firefox with anonimox extesion to bypass the banned's site... But i'm in Italia. You Can try.
The Step to install kilkat are:
Install The correct philz kernel version.
Install the raw kernel and reboot the recovery.
Full wipe.
Install the 4.4 Rom
Install the gapps.
Wipe cache and dalvik
Roboot.
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try cm11 by herna (try the latest built by frantisheq) really stable and smooth
btw: full wipe means wipe data, wipe cache, wipe dalvik and manually format /system.
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I've tried to install 4.4 kitkat on my note n7000 too but there are too much cusrom, such as asylum,omnirom, cyogenmod and much recovery mode like cwm,twrp, this is make me so frustating, what to choose what to install? If anyone can guide newbie like us step by step and also the link, the best step that never make our phone brick
just stay away from Stock ICS kernel (dont wipe anything using stock ics recovery)
then root your rom and make a backup of your efs (this is the most important step)
now each thread contains all the steps you need to follow, just read them carefully)
I advice you to try herna cm11 (very stable)
regards
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done install philz kernel+safe kernel for my JB 4.1.2 and supersu 1.89. Want to install kitkat 4.4 but don't know where to start :crying:
aphinxwu said:
done install philz kernel+safe kernel for my JB 4.1.2 and supersu 1.89. Want to install kitkat 4.4 but don't know where to start :crying:
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Ok my friend
I use this method to install cm 11 4.4 kitkat
1- I install philz kernel+safe kernel for my JB 4.1.2
2- I install cm 10.2 (4.3) or cm10.1 (4.2.2)
3- I install cm11(4.4)
It work to me and I install 3 kitkat rom
Or as he is already on philz kernel, just flash raw kernel reboot recovery and flash omnirom or asylum omnirom or Nameless Rom or DU or SlimKat
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Dawood Al Amri said:
Ok my friend
I use this method to install cm 11 4.4 kitkat
1- I install philz kernel+safe kernel for my JB 4.1.2
2- I install cm 10.2 (4.3) or cm10.1 (4.2.2)
3- I install cm11(4.4)
It work to me and I install 3 kitkat rom
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So if i want to install kitkat, after i install philz kernel then i directly install cm11 (4.4) ? why you install 3 kitkat rom?
treacherous_hawk said:
Or as he is already on philz kernel, just flash raw kernel reboot recovery and flash omnirom or asylum omnirom or Nameless Rom or DU or SlimKat
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sorry i'm newbie, how to flash raw kernel? flash is mean install? sorry stupid question.
aphinxwu said:
So if i want to install kitkat, after i install philz kernel then i directly install cm11 (4.4) ? why you install 3 kitkat rom?
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I mean if you want to install kitkat in your phon and you have 4.1.2 by recovery philz you must install cm10.2 Jely been 4.3 after you install 4.3 you can install 4.4 kitkat
I use this method and I install 3 rom kitkat
Dawood Al Amri said:
I mean if you want to install kitkat in your phon and you have 4.1.2 by recovery philz you must install cm10.2 Jely been 4.3 after you install 4.3 you can install 4.4 kitkat
I use this method and I install 3 rom kitkat
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wow so much step huh. maybe theres a more shortcut way if dont, i'm gonna take your way
aphinxwu said:
wow so much step huh. maybe theres a more shortcut way if dont, i'm gonna take your way
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Install this recovery
http://downloadandroidrom.com/file/GalaxyNote/recovery/n7000-CWM-KitKatCompatible.zip
Aftarthat you can install kitkat 4.4.2
Just flash the raw Kernel from this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2397000
Then reboot into recovery directly (DO NOT reboot into system) then flash directly whatever you want of KitKat based ROMs.
Remember to follow the instructions of each ROM that is mentioned in the opening post of the thread.
kaborayyan said:
Just flash the raw Kernel from this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2397000
Then reboot into recovery directly (DO NOT reboot into system) then flash directly whatever you want of KitKat based ROMs.
Remember to follow the instructions of each ROM that is mentioned in the opening post of the thread.
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thanks you for the link source. it help me cm10.2 is the latest?
Dawood Al Amri said:
Install this recovery
http://downloadandroidrom.com/file/GalaxyNote/recovery/n7000-CWM-KitKatCompatible.zip
Aftarthat you can install kitkat 4.4.2
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is this recovery support kitkat nameless? i would like to install nameless. thank you for the link
Dawood Al Amri said:
Install this recovery
http://downloadandroidrom.com/file/GalaxyNote/recovery/n7000-CWM-KitKatCompatible.zip
Aftarthat you can install kitkat 4.4.2
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Hey i already follow ur instruction and it works. Thank you. Very happy this is the first time for me changing rom :fingers-crossed:
but there's question i want to ask you, can i still use philz kernel to install rom kitkat? because i prefer philz kernel UI than cwm
Thank you sir
aphinxwu said:
Hey i already follow ur instruction and it works. Thank you. Very happy this is the first time for me changing rom :fingers-crossed:
but there's question i want to ask you, can i still use philz kernel to install rom kitkat? because i prefer philz kernel UI than cwm
Thank you sir
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as mentioned earlier you need raw kernel to flash omnirom, you will get error if you try to flash using philz kernel.
treacherous_hawk said:
as mentioned earlier you need raw kernel to flash omnirom, you will get error if you try to flash using philz kernel.
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ooo i understand. what's different between kernel and raw kernel? i install kitkat with cwm it works.
aphinxwu said:
ooo i understand. what's different between kernel and raw kernel? i install kitkat with cwm it works.
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Raw kernel has SElinux support and that is required to be able to flash kitkat.
treacherous_hawk said:
Raw kernel has SElinux support and that is required to be able to flash kitkat.
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so cwm is raw kernel too. How we know what kernel is support SELinux? So, if i dont instal philz kernel on my official stock rom before and then directly install cwm, so after that i can install kitkat ?
aphinxwu said:
so cwm is raw kernel too. How we know what kernel is support SELinux? So, if i dont instal philz kernel on my official stock rom before and then directly install cwm, so after that i can install kitkat ?
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raw kernel r4 is cwm while r5 is TWRP. To root and get custom recovery for your stock rom,you must flash philz kernel. Once you have philz kernel, reboot recovery and from there flash r4 or r5 kernel and again reboot recovery and then do the wipes and flash any kitkat rom with gapps. Kernel with SELinux support are raw kernel, r4 and r5, Asylum kernel http://asylumrom.com/Asylum/Asylum-Roms/KitKat-4.4/N7000/kerner/.

xperia v working cwm?

I have installed cwm 6 but when i install someting its dosn't install so i wondering did cwm are bad or what ? Becouse i tryed install rom and ita looped can any one give working cwm ? Im on locked bootloader.
Ainster said:
I have installed cwm 6 but when i install someting its dosn't install so i wondering did cwm are bad or what ? Becouse i tryed install rom and ita looped can any one give working cwm ? Im on locked bootloader.
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i think you installed custom rom on a locked bootlaoder. so it gave you bootloop. or may be flashed incompatible rom. i just think so . try this maybe http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2012738
romeoofair said:
i think you installed custom rom on a locked bootlaoder. so it gave you bootloop. or may be flashed incompatible rom. i just think so . try this maybe http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2012738
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thanks ill try i was installed http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2491552 this rom and gives me bootloop black version
Ainster said:
thanks ill try i was installed http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2491552 this rom and gives me bootloop black version
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are you deodexed? because i think this rom needs to be deodexed. because i dont think its problem with cmw recovery
romeoofair said:
are you deodexed? because i think this rom needs to be deodexed. because i dont think its problem with cmw recovery
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i don't know really im on fully stock rooted.
Ainster said:
i don't know really im on fully stock rooted.
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if you have .odex files in system/app and system/framework it is odexed .otherwise its deodexed
romeoofair said:
if you have .odex files in system/app and system/framework it is odexed .otherwise its deodexed
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than rom are .odex but when i install new custom rom did files are not delleted ?
Ainster said:
than rom are .odex but when i install new custom rom did files are not delleted ?
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no they wont delete . if the rom req deodexed and if yours is odexed you will get bootloops.
romeoofair said:
no they wont delete . if the rom req deodexed and if yours is odexed you will get bootloops.
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Than how i can deodex rom ?
Ainster said:
Than how i can deodex rom ?
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you can either search in the forum on how to deodex or you can flash a deodexed stock rom. check it on xv android development page. if you have your bootloader unlocked .try this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2616913. even this may help you http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2237184
No im with locked bootloader so i wanna 4.1 honami black version.
Ainster said:
No im with locked bootloader so i wanna 4.1 honami black version.
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then unfortunately you wont be able to flash that rom you gave me i think

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