Knowing that AT&T locks their bootloaders (bastards), I'd like to get a version with an unlocked bootloader that I can mod, swap ROMs, etc.
I've found lots of 32gb versions, but I can't find many 64gb versions out there except those that are ~$1200 and I just can't spend that.
Wondering how others are solving this and getting their hands on one that's AT&T LTE friendly...
Thanks!
edit: also, if you knew a model #, that would be helpful as I'm a bit confused on all the variations.
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Knowing that AT&T locks their bootloaders (bastards), I'd like to get a version with an unlocked bootloader that I can mod, swap ROMs, etc.
I've found lots of 32gb versions, but I can't find many 64gb versions out there except those that are ~$1200 and I just can't spend that.
Wondering how others are solving this and getting their hands on one that's AT&T LTE friendly...
Thanks!
edit: also, if you knew a model #, that would be helpful as I'm a bit confused on all the variations.
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T-Mobile (N920T) is probably the best, simplest choice. you can sign up for new service, purchase at full price, root it, get it sim unlocked using a root method (search xda) or hassle with T-Mobile and then cancel once you have it SIM unlocked. N920I also works but it's an international model. i'm using the N920T and the dual-sim N9208 on att and both work flawlessly. search-xda is your friend, you'll find all the answers you're looking for. good luck
I just bought an N920i on eBay. It arrives tomorrow. Excited!
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T-Mobile (N920T) is probably the best, simplest choice. you can sign up for new service, purchase at full price, root it, get it sim unlocked using a root method (search xda) or hassle with T-Mobile and then cancel once you have it SIM unlocked. N920I also works but it's an international model. i'm using the N920T and the dual-sim N9208 on att and both work flawlessly. search-xda is your friend, you'll find all the answers you're looking for. good luck
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Thanks. I'm leaning that way, but there seems to be a lot of back and forth on T-Mobile and their willingness to unlock. Just looking for other routes and then compare pricing
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I just bought an N920i on eBay. It arrives tomorrow. Excited!
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Interested to hear how it goes for you. Keep in touch!
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Thanks. I'm leaning that way, but there seems to be a lot of back and forth on T-Mobile and their willingness to unlock. Just looking for other routes and then compare pricing
Interested to hear how it goes for you. Keep in touch!
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I bought an N920T for use on at&t. here is a lengthy discussion about the potential drawbacks to the missing bands when using a tmo on att. TL/DR; on that one is that you might not get service in the boonies using a tmo on att; i haven't ever had a problem with my tmo note 4 in over a year on att.
here is a guy that can provide free SIM unlock (he's fixing to do mine in about 2 hours. many have reported success with him.) in fact i bought a tmo phone under the premise he'd be able to help me, as TMO will make a big fuss about helping you.
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I bought an N920T for use on at&t. here is a lengthy discussion about the potential drawbacks to the missing bands when using a tmo on att. TL/DR; on that one is that you might not get service in the boonies using a tmo on att; i haven't ever had a problem with my tmo note 4 in over a year on att.
here is a guy that can provide free SIM unlock (he's fixing to do mine in about 2 hours. many have reported success with him.) in fact i bought a tmo phone under the premise he'd be able to help me, as TMO will make a big fuss about helping you.
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Thanks for the reference thread. I've been searching, but didn't come across that one. I've downloaded the app and unfortunately, it looks like 17 is my primary band at my office. I'll keep it up and will monitor across the city. Very helpful!
I did find the unlocker's thread and am watching there as well. Let me know how it goes for you.
he unlocked with no problems.. having trouble getting an LTE band tho.
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he unlocked with no problems.. having trouble getting an LTE band tho.
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Eek!
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he unlocked with no problems.. having trouble getting an LTE band tho.
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Just wanted to see how it's going for you. I've been monitoring my bands here in DC and I'm pretty much always on 17. 4 is here, but looks pretty light and sparse
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Just wanted to see how it's going for you. I've been monitoring my bands here in DC and I'm pretty much always on 17. 4 is here, but looks pretty light and sparse
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thanks for quoting me; i had lost this thread, and there are updates:
there was nothing wrong with the process @stifilz used to unlock the phone. the problem was that my IMEI wasn't recognized by AT&T, so they wouldn't send me LTE service. but i got that straight.
it appears i use primarily bands 4 and 5 here.
ooo so band 17.. you are speaking about an AT&T phone huh?? that's not as good, as there is some debate as to whether or not a TMOBILE phone will receive at&t's band 17 correctly. i think i already linked that thread previously, so you might re-read that to see if it'll provide an issue for you.
cheapest, tho not the easiest, way for you to figure out if you'll have problems is to find a person using an unlocked TMO phone and put your sim card in it, and then see if it gets LTE (particularly band 17)
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thanks for quoting me; i had lost this thread, and there are updates:
there was nothing wrong with the process @stifilz used to unlock the phone. the problem was that my IMEI wasn't recognized by AT&T, so they wouldn't send me LTE service. but i got that straight.
it appears i use primarily bands 4 and 5 here.
ooo so band 17.. you are speaking about an AT&T phone huh?? that's not as good, as there is some debate as to whether or not a TMOBILE phone will receive at&t's band 17 correctly. i think i already linked that thread previously, so you might re-read that to see if it'll provide an issue for you.
cheapest, tho not the easiest, way for you to figure out if you'll have problems is to find a person using an unlocked TMO phone and put your sim card in it, and then see if it gets LTE (particularly band 17)
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Good to hear. AT&T made that same mistake with my OPO. Always a chuckle when you know more than the service reps.
Yeah, I've been checking LTE discovery anytime I go anywhere different in DC and it's always band 17 which the TMO version doesn't have. There is band 4 here, but it's considerably less frequent and a much weaker signal. So, that likely means that I'll get spotty LTE service most of the time and have extra battery suck as it works to switch between LTE and 3G. Not sure it's worth it since I'm pretty constantly on the move...
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Good to hear. AT&T made that same mistake with my OPO. Always a chuckle when you know more than the service reps.
Yeah, I've been checking LTE discovery anytime I go anywhere different in DC and it's always band 17 which the TMO version doesn't have. There is band 4 here, but it's considerably less frequent and a much weaker signal. So, that likely means that I'll get spotty LTE service most of the time and have extra battery suck as it works to switch between LTE and 3G. Not sure it's worth it since I'm pretty constantly on the move...
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Well there's a guy in a thread iposted about earlier in the Q&A section that spoke up to say his tmobile note 5 does connect to 17 all the time, I'm waiting on his response as to whether that's AT&T band 17 or t-mobile band 17. ( I don't know if there is a difference or if it makes a difference)
Might still be a go
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Well there's a guy in a thread iposted about earlier in the Q&A section that spoke up to say his tmobile note 5 does connect to 17 all the time, I'm waiting on his response as to whether that's AT&T band 17 or t-mobile band 17. ( I don't know if there is a difference or if it makes a difference)
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I think that's gotta be a mistake. According to TMO's site, it doesn't have LTE 17 and they're standard frequencies.
But, the question for me will be how strong LTE4 is. It might be enough. I'm trying to figure out how to disable 17 on my OPO for testing...
band 17, at&t!
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I use Cricket, so AT&T.
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band 17, at&t!
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Wait, what?
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Wait, what?
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I can confirm that I have a tmobile branded unit that attaches to band 17. It isn't as frequently as on my note 4, I'm generally on band 2. With that said I've had virtually no trouble with service. I was initially worried about the b17 issue, but it hasn't seemed to make any difference.
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Does it attach to band 17 on AT&T or t-mobile?
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I use Cricket, so AT&T.
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That all took place in this thread.
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That all took place in this thread.
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Interesting, but I'm not sure I'm buying it - take a look at TMO's spec sheet - http://www.t-mobile.com/cell-phones/samsung-galaxy-note5.html
Doesn't list Band 17.
I think I'll need some corroboration on that...
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Interesting, but I'm not sure I'm buying it - take a look at TMO's spec sheet - http://www.t-mobile.com/cell-phones/samsung-galaxy-note5.html
Doesn't list Band 17.
I think I'll need some corroboration on that...
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i'll look; yeah i mean dude only has 3 posts ever, so who knows.
maybe i'll prompt him to make a screen shot
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i'll look; yeah i mean dude only has 3 posts ever, so who knows.
maybe i'll prompt him to make a screen shot
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I posted at him as well, but didn't think about a screenshot. Good idea.
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Not sure if this deserves to be here but I have rang a few different google people and they have confirmed the unlocked version does support 42mbps (DC-HSPA) if your carrier has it . Thought I'd let people know.
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Not sure if this deserves to be here but I have rang a few different google people and they have confirmed the unlocked version does support 42mbps (DC-HSPA) if your carrier has it . Thought I'd let people know.
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Posted on the Google Play Store now:
https://play.google.com/store/devices/details?id=nexus_4_16gb
It was just a typo that now has been fixed
Oh thank you I wasn't aware of this may as well delete this thread now
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Not sure if this deserves to be here but I have rang a few different google people and they have confirmed the unlocked version does support 42mbps (DC-HSPA) if your carrier has it . Thought I'd let people know.
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what the .... you're right. I could have sworn the Play Store said "HSPA+ 21" in the tech specs earlier today, but now it says "HSPA+ 42". Maybe I'm just going nuts. Not the first time
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what the .... you're right. I could have sworn the Play Store said "HSPA+ 21" in the tech specs earlier today, but now it says "HSPA+ 42". Maybe I'm just going nuts. Not the first time
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The +21 was an error, they recently corrected the specs listing to +42
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Oh thank you I wasn’t aware of this may as well delete this thread now
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Might wanna keep it open just a little bit longer … There seems to be a lot of confusion about it here in some threads..
Yep they must have fixed it. It showed 21mbps earlier today.
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Might wanna keep it open just a little bit longer … There seems to be a lot of confusion about it here in some threads..
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Sounds like a good plan, I thought T-Mobiles version had it aha. Not the unlocked one.
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Sounds like a good plan, I thought T-Mobiles version had it aha. Not the unlocked one.
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T-Mobile version is also unlocked.
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T-Mobile version is also unlocked.
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Oh okay is it just subsidised?
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T-Mobile version is also unlocked.
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Very true but remember in order to get the T-Mobile Wi-Fi Calling app to work it would need a different radio/kernel so updates wouldn’t get pushed out as fast as on other devices …
Unless T-Mobile its not planning on supporting it…
T-Mobile is the only carrier with 42mbps+, right?
AT&T is only 21mbps+?
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T-Mobile is the only carrier with 42mbps+, right?
AT&T is only 21mbps+?
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Yes, you are right
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T-Mobile is the only carrier with 42mbps+, right?
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In the US, yes. European carriers have it as well.
correct me if i'm wrong, but buying the unlocked version for use on AT&T would not affect anything but the max speeds, right?
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In the US, yes. European carriers have it as well.
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Three UK have started rolling it out
OK, guys, stop calling it "unlocked version". There is no "locked" version. The version of the phone sold by T-Mobile is literally the exact same version that is sold on the Google Play store, no distinction whatsoever. There will be no custom modem or wifi calling apps on their version.
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OK, guys, stop calling it "unlocked version".
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Why? It is unlocked. It is a very important distinction considering it is a pentaband phone. There have been locked GSM Nexus devices in the past btw.
Canadian Carriers
Can we expect HSPA+42 on Rogers in Canada or will we only get 21. I know Telus and Bell can both do HSPA+42. If not, I may have to switch to Telus or Bell...
For those in Canada, as far as I know Bell, Telus and Sasktel have some 42 mbps DC-HSPA coverage while Rogers, Wind and Mobilicity only have 21 mbps.
Here is Bell's coverage map. The light blue areas have 21 mbps while the darker areas have 42 mbps. Telus' coverage map should be indentical since they share the network.
http://www.bell.ca/Mobility/Coverage_map
Hello, I just received my unlocked HTC one dev. edition from the manufacturers website, and I was wondering which carrier would be better suited for the phone. I was reading that the dev. edition isn't well supported for T-mobile, unless the branded version was bought. Then I read that for an att plan, I would need to go to the corporate store in order to maybe get a plan if they allow me to. I would just like to have optimal speeds, with this optimal device. Any suggestions on what I should do?
ps. I don't know if this was addressed earlier but I tried looking around
My suggestion would be to try T-Mobile first. See how it works out for you at home and at your job, or other places where it might be important to you to have good reception. Check the coverage maps on the respective carrier websites. If it doesn't work out then see if you can try out AT&T. If you are friendly and you let the reps know your intentions maybe they will work with you. T-Mobile is cheaper than AT&T last time I checked so that's definitely a plus.
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My suggestion would be to try T-Mobile first. See how it works out for you at home and at your job, or other places where it might be important to you to have good reception. Check the coverage maps on the respective carrier websites. If it doesn't work out then see if you can try out AT&T. If you are friendly and you let the reps know your intentions maybe they will work with you. T-Mobile is cheaper than AT&T last time I checked so that's definitely a plus.
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Thanks for the reply. Before I head out to T-mobile, I heard that the dev. edition doesn't support HSPA+ nor 1700Mhz for LTE speed. So if I do get a plan, I wonder if I'll end up with EDGE. Is that possible?
logic onlinwt
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Thanks for the reply. Before I head out to T-mobile, I heard that the dev. edition doesn't support HSPA+ nor 1700Mhz for LTE speed. So if I do get a plan, I wonder if I'll end up with EDGE. Is that possible?
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Btw I live in the Chicago suburbs, and when I checked the 1900Mhz coverage on the T-mobile site, it was spotty all around the suburbs.
According to the article below it should support at least HSPA+ when using T-Mobile. Give the article a read.
Source.
elementur said:
According to the article below it should support at least HSPA+ when using T-Mobile. Give the article a read.
Thanks, I'm actually on my way to the store now.
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Hi!
I'm planning to buy a customized Moto X unlocked GSM edition but I'm wondering if it'll work outside the US.
At Moto they don't know as "they haven't tried it". And is confusing as it says on their website that is GSM unlocked but comes with a t-mobile sim card, so it's unlocked to work with t-mobile and at&t only or also open to other compatible GSM networks around the world? Has anyone had the chance to try it?
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Hi!
I'm planning to buy a customized Moto X unlocked GSM edition but I'm wondering if it'll work outside the US.
At Moto they don't know as "they haven't tried it". And is confusing as it says on their website that is GSM unlocked but comes with a t-mobile sim card, so it's unlocked to work with t-mobile and at&t only or also open to other compatible GSM networks around the world? Has anyone had the chance to try it?
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Most phones shipped these days support most 2g/3g bands to support international roaming features. Say you're going to Europe, i wouldn't count on you getting anywhere near LTE speeds or even 4g speeds because there networks aren't that developed yet, put in simple terms, but there's a good chance that you can still get a supported 2g/3g connection, does that make sense? I would take it with me if i were you, no harm in that right?
moto x in Belgium
I got my T-mobile Moto X shipped to Belgium, it works on the local GSM networks.
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Most phones shipped these days support most 2g/3g bands to support international roaming features. Say you're going to Europe, i wouldn't count on you getting anywhere near LTE speeds or even 4g speeds because there networks aren't that developed yet, put in simple terms, but there's a good chance that you can still get a supported 2g/3g connection, does that make sense? I would take it with me if i were you, no harm in that right?
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We have 4G in our little East-European country, Romania (probably you never heard of it)
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We have 4G in our little East-European country, Romania (probably you never heard of it)
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I heard of it What you can do is find out what network bands your cellphone company back in Romania uses and see if your phone supports it. There's a good chance your phone will support one of their bands though
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I heard of it What you can do is find out what network bands your cellphone company back in Romania uses and see if your phone supports it. There's a good chance your phone will support one of their bands though
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They support it for 2G/3G, but not above. The bands are different for LTE.
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They support it for 2G/3G, but not above. The bands are different for LTE.
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Yup exactly as i predicted first post but hey good news is at least you'll be able to use the phone. Use WiFi for your internet needs
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Yup exactly as i predicted first post but hey good news is at least you'll be able to use the phone. Use WiFi for your internet needs
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3G is fast enough. As the 4G network is not fully developed (no full country coverage), and the prices are still high, I don't think it's really worth stressing too much about it. I ordered myself a MotoX from the states with a non-compatible LTE hardware just now. I know that I won't use that technology in a comfortable way anyways for the next 2 years. For my personal needs, 3G+ is more than enough.
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3G is fast enough. As the 4G network is not fully developed (no full country coverage), and the prices are still high, I don't think it's really worth stressing too much about it. I ordered myself a MotoX from the states with a non-compatible LTE hardware just now. I know that I won't use that technology in a comfortable way anyways for the next 2 years. For my personal needs, 3G+ is more than enough.
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Ya don't worry about it too much because it sounds like you're a casual user, mainly for emails and such I'm guessing? But anyways Lte speeds are really going to take off in the next couple years so you'll be in for a treat when you get back Happy Journey!
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Ya don't worry about it too much because it sounds like you're a casual user, mainly for emails and such I'm guessing? But anyways Lte speeds are really going to take off in the next couple years so you'll be in for a treat when you get back Happy Journey!
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Well I could say casual user, I guess, but I use mostly wifi wherever I spend more time. Home, work, friends place, all have good wifi, so when I'm out, I switch to 3G, and in that time I don't really need super fast speeds.
Thanks.
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We have 4G in our little East-European country, Romania (probably you never heard of it)
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Romania?? of course I have!! have u heard about Ecuador? haha
At high school we studied most countries name around the world =) not as in...u may know where
And thanks!! means that it's really unlocked
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Most phones shipped these days support most 2g/3g bands to support international roaming features. Say you're going to Europe, i wouldn't count on you getting anywhere near LTE speeds or even 4g speeds because there networks aren't that developed yet, put in simple terms, but there's a good chance that you can still get a supported 2g/3g connection, does that make sense? I would take it with me if i were you, no harm in that right?
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Makes sense and the harm is like $430 haha and then the time n money to unlock it. But now anymore by knowing that some people had try it outside the US .
My worry was about if it's really unlocked as I'm buying it to use it in Ecuador most of the time. And when u buy it, it says that they give u a t-mobile sim card so that's confusing.
Bought it yesterday
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Makes sense and the harm is like $430 haha and then the time n money to unlock it. But now anymore by knowing that some people had try it outside the US .
My worry was about if it's really unlocked as I'm buying it to use it in Ecuador most of the time. And when u buy it, it says that they give u a t-mobile sim card so that's confusing.
Bought it yesterday
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Haha guess you'll have to find out yourself eh? let us know if it works
Works outside the us!
If you want it...buy it because it works!! The NO CONTRACT MOTO X is fully unlocked!!
Comes with a t-mobile nano card but that's no problem...I guess if that I need it at the US someday, I will have to activate it.
I've had my N6 for a week and a half now; when I ordered it, I requested a Nano SIM from Verizon. It took longer than I expected for the new SIM to arrive, so I decided to just cut down my existing Micro SIM. Did that, installed into the N6, up and running no problem.
The Nano SIM finally showed up, and I swapped it in thinking there'd be no issue. Unfortunately when I start it up, I get a notification to "Sign into network", and when I open that, I receive a screen that says "Cannot Activate Your Device". I talked to VZW on their chat and then on the phone; the tech on the phone was asking for the IMEI which I provided, he said their system did not recognize the number and he'd have to submit a request to have it added to the database, which would take 24-48 hours, and that I could swap in my old SIM in the meantime. No problem, until I switched my old SIM back in and it doesn't work anymore either....
Any suggestions?
Sounds like you were better off keeping them in the dark. I read an article somewhere can't remember where saying that Verizon wouldn't activate any n6 that weren't purchased directly from Verizon. I wouldn't be surprised if that were true.
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Sounds like you were better off keeping them in the dark. I read an article somewhere can't remember where saying that Verizon wouldn't activate any n6 that weren't purchased directly from Verizon. I wouldn't be surprised if that were true.
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It does seem that way. Mine came from GPS. Told them that when I requested the new SIM and they didn't give me any problems...it was "sure, confirm your address and we'll send it".
The tech I was dealing with genuinely seemed to want to figure out a way to get it to work.
My thought is to try to get my SIM back in a phone that is unquestionably on Verizon's system, but I'll have to find a nano to micro adapter to do that with my wife's phone, for instance.
I was able to find a nano-micro adapter, and reactivate my old SIM in an old Galaxy S3 we had laying around, and swap it into my N6.
LTE data is working, but voice isn't for some reason (when I place a call, it'll ring once and then "Welcome to Verizon Wireless, your call can not be completed as dialed. Please check the number..."
ETA: Voice issues were some kind of glitch with Advanced Calling/VoLTE. I disabled it from my line, reactivated it and went through that whole process again and now it's working.
This post summarizes the VZW issues with the non-VZW N6: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=59970721&postcount=121
Read the whole thread if you want details, but it seems clear to me the VZW is breaking FCC regs by only allowing N6's purchased from them on their network.
It does seem you have other issues going on here though. My N6 worked great, it just cost me my $25 "bring your own device" discount when I plugged in my existing SIM.
Please let us know if you succeed in getting your N6 recognized on VZW's network. My request to add mine to their network was denied in about 5 minutes.
Same issue on b2b plan
I'm having the same issue on a B2B plan. I am currently trying to find someone w/ a Verizon android. Seems like there are grounds for a complaint through FCC regulations though, no?
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I'm having the same issue on a B2B plan. I am currently trying to find someone w/ a Verizon android. Seems like there are grounds for a complaint through FCC regulations though, no?
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This is no longer an issue. Verizon will activate all Nexus 6's now from what I've read.
See the thread below:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/fcc-verizon-t3069915
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This is no longer an issue. Verizon will activate all Nexus 6's now from what I've read.
See the thread below:
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My mistake! I'm using a N5.
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My mistake! I'm using a N5.
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The Nexus 5 doesn't have the hardware/radios to run on Verizon and never has just fyi.
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The Nexus 5 doesn't have the hardware/radios to run on Verizon and never has just fyi.
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I was under the impression that the N5 radio could connect to Band 13 (700MHz)
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I was under the impression that the N5 radio could connect to Band 13 (700MHz)
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Yeah it would need a lot more than just support for LTE band 13 to work on Verizon. The CDMA bands/radios are still 100% necessary - at least for now. In addition to all of the other LTE bands Verizon supports.
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Yeah it would need a lot more than just support for LTE band 13 to work on Verizon. The CDMA bands/radios are still 100% necessary - at least for now. In addition to all of the other LTE bands Verizon supports.
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Yea, I guess I am missing something here. I found that you can't enable Band 13 without rooting and disabling other bands. Shouldn't an unlocked nexus 5 just need access to Band 13 and be registered on Verizon's network in order to use LTE Band 13?
I appreciate all of the answers. I'm a bit new to this whole process, and never understood US network space before today. so thanks
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Yea, I guess I am missing something here. I found that you can't enable Band 13 without rooting and disabling other bands. Shouldn't an unlocked nexus 5 just need access to Band 13 and be registered on Verizon's network in order to use LTE Band 13?
I appreciate all of the answers. I'm a bit new to this whole process, and never understood US network space before today. so thanks
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You might find more support for your quest on the Nexus 5 Q&A forum, here > http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/help
Hi Everyone,
I've been reading the reviews and specs for the MI5 Pro and am considering purchasing one. GSM/CDMA support, 128Gb Storage, etc. sounds great to me.
My plan is to have something with an unlocked BL so I can root, TWRP, and AOSP it just the way I want it.
Before I do how much of a pain will it be to getting working on Verizon's 4G/LTE networks? If I understand what I am reading correctly it supports all the frequency bands on Big Red. Any thoughts? Comments and suggestions are requested on this.
Thanks in Advance
I should also add this is not for the BYOD (Bring Your Own Device) program. I have a monthly plan and am up for a new device but don't want what they offer.
I highly doubt you'll be able to get it to work on Verizon. Even unlocking GSM bands is a pain.
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VZW is CDMA. The specs say it supports all the needed bands I just don't know if they are "active" out of the box.
FernBch said:
VZW is CDMA. The specs say it supports all the needed bands I just don't know if they are "active" out of the box.
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I don't specifically know about verizon, but our local CDMA carriers do work with the Mi5.
Cdma carriers the us only allows approved devices.
No hope.
FernBch said:
VZW is CDMA. The specs say it supports all the needed bands I just don't know if they are "active" out of the box.
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You can be the guniea pig and try it out but your chances of getting it to work on Verizon are slim to none.
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The more I research this the more dim the results look. It seems that the problem with bringing it to a CDMA network is lack of 4G functionality. Definitely a deal breaker for sure......
Verizon only allows approved devices on their network (read: their branded devices). So there's pretty much no chance of your Mi5 (an unapproved, semi-compatible, and untested device as far as they are concerned) getting on the network, as your MEID needs to be in their system for you to connect to their network.
Stick with an actual GSM carrier.
Duwenbasden said:
Verizon only allows approved devices on their network (read: their branded devices). So there's pretty much no chance of your Mi5 (an unapproved, semi-compatible, and untested device as far as they are concerned) getting on the network, as your MEID needs to be in their system for you to connect to their network.
Stick with an actual GSM carrier.
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I knew that was how they were in the past but I thought maybe they loosened up on it. They now have a Bring Your Own Device program. Still doesn't get past getting 4G working flawlessly on CDMA.
I need to look deeper at GSM carriers in the US. Coverage in my area is important for work.
I just saw you message and it is a bit late, but I have the Mi5 and use it on Verizon. It is only 3G on that. I can also use both my Verizon Sim card and my AT&T sim at the same time and have two carriers with two different numbers on the same phone. I had to do nothing to get it to work on Verizon other than pop in the sim card. I hope this helps.
Thanks DFSPCC, I was wondering the same thing and having it listed to work with VZN in the US on willmyphonework.net up to 3G speeds, which is fine by me. Considering the low price at the moment for the Mi5, I think is a great option.
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I'm considering on getting this phone... 5.7 inch with OK specs to work with Verizon only thing is you said 3g but that's OK its just to play and test hopefully I can root it... Don't knkw if they have any Roms for it..... Ive been HTC for over 10 yrs and they have let me down been waiting for a 5.7 or bigger... The max was nice but bad specs realy slow so.... I was going to do the s8 plus but now I see the U12 coming soon. But i don't know if Verizon will carry it... They don't carry the U11 don't know why.... What do you think? And thanks again for your time and help god bless....
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I just saw you message and it is a bit late, but I have the Mi5 and use it on Verizon. It is only 3G on that. I can also use both my Verizon Sim card and my AT&T sim at the same time and have two carriers with two different numbers on the same phone. I had to do nothing to get it to work on Verizon other than pop in the sim card. I hope this helps.
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