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Is it possible to use a Verizon Note 3 on an ATT network?
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Is it possible to use a Verizon Note 3 on an ATT network?
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I can't speak for the verizon note 3, as I have the at&t version. But I did have a verizon S4 on the AT&T network, and the service was horendous. You won't get LTE, but you might get hspa+, service is intermitent Just use this apn and gou're good to go.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2464498
And here's a tutorial:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfN9fcpmSMA&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Don't spend $700 on a device that won't even support LTE.. plus I think the VZW one is locked also..
I use to buy CDMA devices and use them on GSM but the service and support is just trash
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Verizon Note 3 on AT&T
YoungAceAtlanta said:
Don't spend $700 on a device that won't even support LTE.. plus I think the VZW one is locked also..
I use to buy CDMA devices and use them on GSM but the service and support is just trash
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FYI
My phone - Black Verizon Galaxy Note 3 with 4.4.2
I called Verizon about whether or not I could have my unlock code for my Verizon Note 3 since I was going out of the country for a week and wanted to know if my phone could be used as a back up with a local SIM. Verizon told me my phone didn't need a code and I could use it in a different country based on that country's capabilities. I didn't end up using it there but that was useful information.
Today I took my Verizon Galaxy Note 3 to AT&T for service since my contract was up on Verizon and I already had my iPad with AT&T. So here's what I found out... A AT&T SIM does indeed work in my Verizon Note 3 with a couple of complications:
- I wasn't getting data at first but when we changed the "Connections/More Networks/Mobile Networks/Access Point Names/ +" entered "att phone" as the name and "phone" under APN. Voila 20+ MB speeds download... pretty sure I'm on their LTE bandwidth... (Via Speedtest App) (this does seem to vary a bit)
- It says my SIM is from an unknown source in the notifications but data, texts, and calls work just fine.
- At first I couldn't get AT&T visual voicemail to work (Yes I'm needy and demanding haha) only basic voicemail and customer service had to start it up on their end using some other phone number as the number being called vs. my number or *86. Their resigning for this was that their system didn't recognize my IMEI as an LTE phone... and further explanation saying that they didn't test the Verizon version so it's not in the system (fair enough). SO.... I found a work around... a AT&T Note 3 IMEI registered as mine with my number... and presto... visual voicemail
- It does't tell me what type of signal I'm getting in the notifications, just "H+" (HSPA+?)with a 0 to 5 bars. (Whatever)
So a couple hiccups but all and all, it works. Just an FYI and a few details for you guys. Hope this helps.
I had my Note 3 changed from Verizon to AT&T. I get an error message that the Sim card in not a Verizon card, but the voice and data connection via the phone (not through a wireless internet connection) works fine.
HOWEVER... I have noticed that the MMI codes do not work when entered on the phone.
Is this a result of changing to AT&T? Whatever the cause, how do I get the MMI codes to work again? I have sought guidance on YouTube and have tried recommendations there to no avail.
Do you know how to fix this problem?
Thanks.
Does anyone know if the Nexus 6 will run on the Straight Talk cdma network, that uses Verizon's towers?
BeeHarp said:
Does anyone know if the Nexus 6 will run on the Straight Talk cdma network, that uses Verizon's towers?
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Yes, it will.
BeeHarp said:
Does anyone know if the Nexus 6 will run on the Straight Talk cdma network, that uses Verizon's towers?
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Does Straight Talk use an LTE SIM card for its Verizon use?
BeeHarp said:
Does anyone know if the Nexus 6 will run on the Straight Talk cdma network, that uses Verizon's towers?
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I am also interested in getting more details about this. I'm currently using an old sprint note 2 on straight talk (verizon) and would love to get the N6.
I'll add my experience with Straight Talk. I took my Verizon phone (Droid DNA) to Straight Talk and although it did work, it was not LTE and service (voice and data) was horrible. YMMV.
You would have to activate it as a GSM device. It would use ATT for service. Straight talk can not activate LTE on Verizon. If you get it to work on CDMA you will only get 3G. If you tell them it is LTE capable they will not activate it.
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Verizon recently announced MVNOs will have access to LTE. It looks like it is already in effect. Here is a ST Verizon network LTE phone: http://www.walmart.com/msharbor/ip/Straight-Talk-ZTE-932C-Prepaid-Smartphone/39322439 There is also a LTE hotspot on the Verizon network. Now the question is will we be able to buy a Verizon based straight talk sim or can we pull one out of this ZTE phone and make it work in the Nexus 6? :fingers-crossed:
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That's great if they're moving to LTE, but the coverage in my experience was definitely not the same as Verizon's. I would have areas where I'd completely lose signal and not be able to so much as send a text or make a phone call. And this was in a highly populated area. It was a night & day difference in coverage. Again YMMV.
I figured instead of making a new thread I would ask here. I have a Nexus 6 that was on US Cellular. I purc. a straight talk byop program and put sim for att in it. It worked fine last night. I woke up this morning and have no signal bars at all. will not make or rec. calls. Anyone have an idea what i need to do? APNs are all correct.
I just wanted to bump this old thread and mention in case anyone was searching for- that Walmart now sells the straight talk Verizon LTE sim cards. Just waiting on a speedtest review now.
Good News - Nexus 6 Confirmed Working with VZW LTE Sim
Hi All,
I finally was able to buy a Nexus 6 from Motorola. I have just finished setting it up with a Straight Talk Verizon LTE sim. AND IT WORKS! I purchased the verizon sim package from Walmart. The biggest challenge was getting the sim activated. I really wanted it to just work, but as some may have expected the IMEIs of Nexus 6 devices do not check out as valid when trying to do the CDMA registration step of the sim activation. This is likely due to the fact that there are no Nexus 6 IMEIs in the verizon network database... yet. This may be a pointless when Verizon announces they are finally carrying the Nexus 6, but you never know.
So... the How to:
Basically you just need to do the well documented Verizon display model IMEI trick.
Here is a detailed description of the sim activation technique: http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/12/11/how-to-activate-a-nexus-7-on-verizon-wireless/
In short:
Walk into a verizon store and take a picture of the IMEI from an LTE phone, the one I used was from a HTC One M8, but the Moto Turbo would work too. (I grabbed a couple different IMEIs just in case one didn't work. The first one I tried worked no problem)
After that just follow the instructions on the SIM activation package, but use the Verizon store IMEIs instead of the Nexus 6.
When it comes time to stick it in your phone for activation, put it in the Nexus 6 and your golden.
I can confirm 3G works, LTE works
I have received texts to my Straight Talk number and to Google voice.
I have received and sent MMS messages.
This technique DOES NOT change your IMEI in the Nexus, it simply allows you to activate the sim card. It DOES NOT associate the verizon store IMEI with your account in any way.
On your account page you will see the sim card associated with your phone number not with IMEI of any phone NEXUS 6, store phone or otherwise. See attached picture of how it will appear in your account
Nanoman66 said:
Hi All,
I finally was able to buy a Nexus 6 from Motorola. I have just finished setting it up with a Straight Talk Verizon LTE sim. AND IT WORKS! I purchased the verizon sim package from Walmart. The biggest challenge was getting the sim activated. I really wanted it to just work, but as some may have expected the IMEIs of Nexus 6 devices do not check out as valid when trying to do the CDMA registration step of the sim activation. This is likely due to the fact that there are no Nexus 6 IMEIs in the verizon network database... yet. This may be a pointless when Verizon announces they are finally carrying the Nexus 6, but you never know.
So... the How to:
Basically you just need to do the well documented Verizon display model IMEI trick.
Here is a detailed description of the sim activation technique: http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/12/11/how-to-activate-a-nexus-7-on-verizon-wireless/
In short:
Walk into a verizon store and take a picture of the IMEI from an LTE phone, the one I used was from a HTC One M8, but the Moto Turbo would work too. (I grabbed a couple different IMEIs just in case one didn't work. The first one I tried worked no problem)
After that just follow the instructions on the SIM activation package, but use the Verizon store IMEIs instead of the Nexus 6.
When it comes time to stick it in your phone for activation, put it in the Nexus 6 and your golden.
I can confirm 3G works, LTE works
I have received texts to my Straight Talk number and to Google voice.
I have received and sent MMS messages.
This technique DOES NOT change your IMEI in the Nexus, it simply allows you to activate the sim card. It DOES NOT associate the verizon store IMEI with your account in any way.
On your account page you will see the sim card associated with your phone number not with IMEI of any phone NEXUS 6, store phone or otherwise. See attached picture of how it will appear in your account
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Is there anyway you can run a speedtest for me on the Verizon network? I would like to see the speeds before I load my service card on the SIM card.
Nanoman66 said:
Hi All,
I finally was able to buy a Nexus 6 from Motorola. I have just finished setting it up with a Straight Talk Verizon LTE sim. AND IT WORKS! I purchased the verizon sim package from Walmart. The biggest challenge was getting the sim activated. I really wanted it to just work, but as some may have expected the IMEIs of Nexus 6 devices do not check out as valid when trying to do the CDMA registration step of the sim activation. This is likely due to the fact that there are no Nexus 6 IMEIs in the verizon network database... yet. This may be a pointless when Verizon announces they are finally carrying the Nexus 6, but you never know.
So... the How to:
Basically you just need to do the well documented Verizon display model IMEI trick.
Here is a detailed description of the sim activation technique: http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/12/11/how-to-activate-a-nexus-7-on-verizon-wireless/
In short:
Walk into a verizon store and take a picture of the IMEI from an LTE phone, the one I used was from a HTC One M8, but the Moto Turbo would work too. (I grabbed a couple different IMEIs just in case one didn't work. The first one I tried worked no problem)
After that just follow the instructions on the SIM activation package, but use the Verizon store IMEIs instead of the Nexus 6.
When it comes time to stick it in your phone for activation, put it in the Nexus 6 and your golden.
I can confirm 3G works, LTE works
I have received texts to my Straight Talk number and to Google voice.
I have received and sent MMS messages.
This technique DOES NOT change your IMEI in the Nexus, it simply allows you to activate the sim card. It DOES NOT associate the verizon store IMEI with your account in any way.
On your account page you will see the sim card associated with your phone number not with IMEI of any phone NEXUS 6, store phone or otherwise. See attached picture of how it will appear in your account
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Thanks for the heads up! Could you do a speedtest?
so i did this trick (i actually used a buddies VZW phone) and the phone is on my accoutn but i cant activat it with the verizon sim that comes with the newer byop package. i keep getting invalid serial messages. but its straight talks on sim card...
Nanoman66 said:
Hi All,
I finally was able to buy a Nexus 6 from Motorola. I have just finished setting it up with a Straight Talk Verizon LTE sim. AND IT WORKS! I purchased the verizon sim package from Walmart. The biggest challenge was getting the sim activated. I really wanted it to just work, but as some may have expected the IMEIs of Nexus 6 devices do not check out as valid when trying to do the CDMA registration step of the sim activation. This is likely due to the fact that there are no Nexus 6 IMEIs in the verizon network database... yet. This may be a pointless when Verizon announces they are finally carrying the Nexus 6, but you never know.
So... the How to:
Basically you just need to do the well documented Verizon display model IMEI trick.
Here is a detailed description of the sim activation technique: http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/12/11/how-to-activate-a-nexus-7-on-verizon-wireless/
In short:
Walk into a verizon store and take a picture of the IMEI from an LTE phone, the one I used was from a HTC One M8, but the Moto Turbo would work too. (I grabbed a couple different IMEIs just in case one didn't work. The first one I tried worked no problem)
After that just follow the instructions on the SIM activation package, but use the Verizon store IMEIs instead of the Nexus 6.
When it comes time to stick it in your phone for activation, put it in the Nexus 6 and your golden.
I can confirm 3G works, LTE works
I have received texts to my Straight Talk number and to Google voice.
I have received and sent MMS messages.
This technique DOES NOT change your IMEI in the Nexus, it simply allows you to activate the sim card. It DOES NOT associate the verizon store IMEI with your account in any way.
On your account page you will see the sim card associated with your phone number not with IMEI of any phone NEXUS 6, store phone or otherwise. See attached picture of how it will appear in your account
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Huge thumbs up! :good: did something similar to get my nexus 6 activated on straight talk
1. Turned off my existing verizon note 3 and wrote down IMEI number
2. Activated BYOP activation kit sim from Straight Talk with my note 3 IMEI
3. After activation, put Straight Talk sim into Nexus 6
4. Enjoy Verizon LTE Speeds!
I'm out in the mountains and am pulling down ~5mbps with the Nexus 6, this is the same LTE speeds i get on my verizon iPhone 6plus and what I got on my Note 3. My other verizon phones pull down 20-30mbps in the city, so I expect the Nexus 6 to do the same.
Nanoman66 said:
Hi All,
I finally was able to buy a Nexus 6 from Motorola. I have just finished setting it up with a Straight Talk Verizon LTE sim. AND IT WORKS! I purchased the verizon sim package from Walmart. The biggest challenge was getting the sim activated. I really wanted it to just work, but as some may have expected the IMEIs of Nexus 6 devices do not check out as valid when trying to do the CDMA registration step of the sim activation. This is likely due to the fact that there are no Nexus 6 IMEIs in the verizon network database... yet. This may be a pointless when Verizon announces they are finally carrying the Nexus 6, but you never know.
So... the How to:
Basically you just need to do the well documented Verizon display model IMEI trick.
Here is a detailed description of the sim activation technique: http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/12/11/how-to-activate-a-nexus-7-on-verizon-wireless/
In short:
Walk into a verizon store and take a picture of the IMEI from an LTE phone, the one I used was from a HTC One M8, but the Moto Turbo would work too. (I grabbed a couple different IMEIs just in case one didn't work. The first one I tried worked no problem)
After that just follow the instructions on the SIM activation package, but use the Verizon store IMEIs instead of the Nexus 6.
When it comes time to stick it in your phone for activation, put it in the Nexus 6 and your golden.
I can confirm 3G works, LTE works
I have received texts to my Straight Talk number and to Google voice.
I have received and sent MMS messages.
This technique DOES NOT change your IMEI in the Nexus, it simply allows you to activate the sim card. It DOES NOT associate the verizon store IMEI with your account in any way.
On your account page you will see the sim card associated with your phone number not with IMEI of any phone NEXUS 6, store phone or otherwise. See attached picture of how it will appear in your account
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I did the same thing, but for some reason i need to go to the apn and edit it for ST on verizon and its wierd because verizon your not supposed to edit that. and i still cant send mms
I can confirm that a Straight Talk LTE SIM card that uses Verizon towers will work in an unlocked Nexus 6, even though Best Buy, Amazon, etc say it will only work with GSM carriers. Voice, sms, mms and data are all functioning properly.
The SIM card I am using was activated with a Moto X Developer Edition about a month ago, but that phone started acting up so I figured I'd buy the Nexus since it was on sale.
Speeds in southern-central Maine are 5.2 down/2.4 up. Not blazing by any stretch but Verizon's coverage in Maine is better than anyone else.
stefymarty said:
I can confirm that a Straight Talk LTE SIM card that uses Verizon towers will work in an unlocked Nexus 6, even though Best Buy, Amazon, etc say it will only work with GSM carriers. Voice, sms, mms and data are all functioning properly.
The SIM card I am using was activated with a Moto X Developer Edition about a month ago, but that phone started acting up so I figured I'd buy the Nexus since it was on sale.
Speeds in southern-central Maine are 5.2 down/2.4 up. Not blazing by any stretch but Verizon's coverage in Maine is better than anyone else.
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Can anyone tell me if VoLTE works, meaning you can make a call and use Data at the same time? There are reports that this feature must be switched on internally by Verizon. As a straighttalk user, we don't have access to Verizon Customer service.
I'm also in Maine too, stefymarty and I'm thinking about switching my Straighttalk ATT lte sim for Verizon.
Thanks for responding.
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Speeds in southern-central Maine are 5.2 down/2.4 up. Not blazing by any stretch but Verizon's coverage in Maine is better than anyone else.
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Pretty sure Verizon limits MVNO's to 5 down so you're basically getting as fast as you can.
thanks4playing said:
Can anyone tell me if VoLTE works, meaning you can make a call and use Data at the same time? There are reports that this feature must be switched on internally by Verizon. As a straighttalk user, we don't have access to Verizon Customer service.
I'm also in Maine too, stefymarty and I'm thinking about switching my Straighttalk ATT lte sim for Verizon.
Thanks for responding.
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Just tried it and it appears that you cannot use data while on a phone call. Not a deal breaker for me - it's a feature I've never used.
On a side note - if you decide to root and flash a custom ROM, you may lose your mobile data. After 3 weeks of perfect performance, I got the flashing fever and unlocked, rooted, and installed the latest cm12 nightly. After doing so, I ended up with an exclamation point in my signal bars, able to call and text, but no data. When I checked the apn settings, it said "Access point names are not available for this user", instead of showing the usual dozen or so Verizon Internet APNs. I tried everything to get it to work, including the usuals - reinsert the sim, airplane mode toggle and reboot, dial *#*#4636#*#* and change the network type, toggle the radio, etc. Nothing worked. I decided to flash back to a stock ROM http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/development/rom-stock-rooted-5-0-1-lrx22-stock-root-t2980206 and suddenly all the vzw APNs were showing up again, but I still couldn't connect to mobile data. As a last resort, I did the unthinkable and called Straight Talk customer service, told them I just updated my phone and lost data connectivity. The kind lady had me turn off the phone, called me back on another line, and turn my phone back on...instantly saw the sweet sweet LTE in the signal bars. Literally the shortest and most rewarding experience I've ever had with ST customer service lol. I'm tempted to reflash the cm12 ROM, but the fact that the APNs go missing kind of scares me. If anyone else is reading this and knows how to fix this problem, please respond. Anyway, just thought I'd give you a heads up. Enjoy the beautiful weekend we have on tap bub!
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ASUS has just announced that it’s bringing the affordable ZenFone 2 Laser to the United States starting today. First announced back in early August 2015, this new device features similar specs to those of the ZenFone 2 proper, and comes with a few additional features.
It sports a 5.5-inch IPS LCD display with 1920 x 1080 resolution and Gorilla Glass 4, an octa-core Qualcomm Snapdragon 615 processor, 16 or 32GB of on-board storage, microSD expansion up to 128GB and a removable 3000mAh battery. Unlike the ZenFone 2 which features different amounts of RAM for each storage variant, the ZenFone 2 Laser comes with 3GB of RAM no matter which variant you choose. It also features a 5MP front-facing camera and a 13MP rear camera with laser autofocus. There’s no quick charging capabilities on this new device, and both of its Micro SIM card slots now support 4G LTE connectivity.
The U.S. variant of the ZenFone 2 Laser with 16GB of storage will be available starting today from the ASUS Store, Amazon, Newegg and B&H for $199, with the 32GB model going for $249.
Model 551KL. The international version of zenfone2 laser is model 550KL, which has 720p screen.
The octacore snap dragon makes this very tempting but no fast charge... Home on asus
Love the dual active dual LTE on both sims.. That is what a true dual sim phone is about. Does it have NFC?
No quick charge though as the previous poster stated. Like the processor is a Qualcomm, but the 600 series..???
Looked for it on Asus store and Amazon not available..... ???????
It looks like LTE is not dual-active. "Note
IMPORTANT: Both micro SIM card slots support 3G
WCDMA/ 4G LTE network band. But only one micro
SIM card can connect to 3G WCDMA/ 4G LTE service
at a time."
Also no LTE band 12 if you're on Tmo in the US
https://www.asus.com/Phone/ZenFone-2-Laser-ZE551KL/specifications/
yomuppet said:
It looks like LTE is not dual-active. "Note
IMPORTANT: Both micro SIM card slots support 3G
WCDMA/ 4G LTE network band. But only one micro
SIM card can connect to 3G WCDMA/ 4G LTE service
at a time."
Also no LTE band 12 if you're on Tmo in the US
https://www.asus.com/Phone/ZenFone-2-Laser-ZE551KL/specifications/
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Any dual sim phone that has LTE on both sims can only access LTE data one sim at a time. But I get what you are saying, does this also mean they software blocked it to only get 4G on one sim at a time even with voice/text? If so that is a very odd and strange thing to do.
What I noticed in the specs though it says in their "brochure" that it is dual active dual sim LTE
but when you read the specs it says secondary sim : 2G/3G so which is it? Is it up to 4G LTE on both sims or not.
Dual micro-SIM
- Primary SIM - 2G/3G/4G
- Secondary SIM - 2G/3G
This will still work on Tmobile. I have a zenfone 2 and it connects to Tmobile either through bands 2 or 4.
floridaman said:
Looked for it on Asus store and Amazon not available..... ???????
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http://www.amazon.com/ZenFone-Laser...e=UTF8&qid=1446504600&sr=8-2&keywords=ZE551KL
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http://www.amazon.com/ZenFone-Laser...e=UTF8&qid=1446504600&sr=8-2&keywords=ZE551KL
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Yes and it states it is out of stock for both models.
Both sims support LTE. LTE data connectivity is switchable via the settings panel.
Tuanies said:
Both sims support LTE. LTE data connectivity is switchable via the settings panel.
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Very confused because another Asus rep on your own website stated that only 1 sim can run LTE which is a contradiction to what you are saying in your advertisement and what you are saying in your post as both sims run LTE. He said the following:
"Hey there – great question! The specs do say 2G/3G for the 2nd SIM because when both SIMs are being used, and the 1st SIM is used for LTE, hardware limitations set the 2nd SIM to only 3G – meaning LTE can’t run concurrently. "
I'm not understanding how this would be a hardware issue since dual active runs with 2 separate modems, therefore LTE should be available for voice/text on both sims at all times. Data however can only be on 1 sim at a time. But he is saying only 1 sim can operate as LTE and the other is 2/3G for voice/text. This seems more like a firmware issue that is blocking 4G LTE on the other sim not a hardware issue.
I'm very much looking at this phone to ditch my Zenfone 2 due to it's poor performance with the sim2 being on 2G. So would really like to have some clarification on this.
Also noticed no quick charge and no NFC on this model. I can possibly understand the quick charge, but really no NFC. NFC cost so very little anymore, I am not really seeing a reason for leaving this out. Just raise the price of the phone the $1.00 it cost.
It seems Asus almost gets there but then either leaves things out or uses bad hardware under the guise of "pricing". Putting a quick charge and NFC would have raised the phone pricing minimal and I would gladly pay another $20-30 for this. Additionally since you are coming out with this the other rep wouldn't state whether or not it would get an upgrade to M when released. You guys really need to do much much better in this area.
floridaman said:
Yes and it states it is out of stock for both models.
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Newegg has both models in stock in Silver.
floridaman said:
Very confused because another Asus rep on your own website stated that only 1 sim can run LTE which is a contradiction to what you are saying in your advertisement and what you are saying in your post as both sims run LTE. He said the following:
"Hey there – great question! The specs do say 2G/3G for the 2nd SIM because when both SIMs are being used, and the 1st SIM is used for LTE, hardware limitations set the 2nd SIM to only 3G – meaning LTE can’t run concurrently. "
I'm not understanding how this would be a hardware issue since dual active runs with 2 separate modems, therefore LTE should be available for voice/text on both sims at all times. Data however can only be on 1 sim at a time. But he is saying only 1 sim can operate as LTE and the other is 2/3G for voice/text. This seems more like a firmware issue that is blocking 4G LTE on the other sim not a hardware issue.
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LTE is data only, and as this is an unlocked device, it is not compatible with TMO/AT&T VoLTE. Therefore, all calls/texts will ride on 2G EDGE or 3G HSPA+ networks no matter what. So no point in having dual active LTE, as it just serves to eat up more battery life.
Most other phones tend to have 1 slot that can do 2G/3G/4G and a second slot for 2G/3G only, which means if you want to use SIM2 on 4G, you have to power off the phone and switch the SIM cards around physically. On the ZE551KL, both slots are 2G/3G/4G compatible, and 2G/3G remains active on both at all times, while the 4G data connection is switchable via Android software. No need to turn off and move SIMs around to change which one you want to use for your data connection.
Whenever an application starts a data session (opening a web browser, email auto-sync, etc), the application asks Android for details regarding the connection. Since this is a dual-SIM device, you can select which SIM card you want the data connection to occur on in the dual-SIM settings. If there was no option, Android might randomly select a SIM that has a small data plan and eat up your data usage.
Sucks that there's no Band 12, but all the other radio decisions they've made sound right.
xtermmin said:
Newegg has both models in stock in Silver.
LTE is data only, and as this is an unlocked device, it is not compatible with TMO/AT&T VoLTE. Therefore, all calls/texts will ride on 2G EDGE or 3G HSPA+ networks no matter what. So no point in having dual active LTE, as it just serves to eat up more battery life.
Most other phones tend to have 1 slot that can do 2G/3G/4G and a second slot for 2G/3G only, which means if you want to use SIM2 on 4G, you have to power off the phone and switch the SIM cards around physically. On the ZE551KL, both slots are 2G/3G/4G compatible, and 2G/3G remains active on both at all times, while the 4G data connection is switchable via Android software. No need to turn off and move SIMs around to change which one you want to use for your data connection.
Whenever an application starts a data session (opening a web browser, email auto-sync, etc), the application asks Android for details regarding the connection. Since this is a dual-SIM device, you can select which SIM card you want the data connection to occur on in the dual-SIM settings. If there was no option, Android might randomly select a SIM that has a small data plan and eat up your data usage.
Sucks that there's no Band 12, but all the other radio decisions they've made sound right.
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I'm not sure what having an unlocked phone has anything to do with VoLTE, whether the phone is locked or unlocked it can still be capable of VoLTE and there are plenty of unlocked phones out there that are. Eventually all phones will have to be VoLTE capable whether they want to or not, locked or unlocked.
In order to use TMobile's band 12 the phone must be VoLTE and E911 enabled certified by TMobile. TMobile issued a release on the already back in the summer. This phone will still work the TMobile system just fine as I'm using the Zenfone on both AT&T and TMobile and never had an issue hitting TMobile at all as it has the other bands TMobile uses.
I'm also aware as I stated above in my previous post that the phone can only use 1 sim at a time for data, however there are already dual sim phones that do not downgrade the second sim to 2/3G for voice/text it keeps it at 4G LTE with very little noticeable battery loss at all. Those phones and I had a Siswoo, was the same exact way in the OS that you tell it which sim you wish to use for data, this is not something new and has been around for quite some time. A lot of battery loss as to do with how well a company keeps up their firmware and OS on the phone to make sure the patches are done. To say nothing of how the actual end user uses the device itself.
The problem with downgrading the second sim to 2G would amount to the same issue I'm running into now with the Zenfone, it's completely useless as a dual sim phone as 2G is being shut down.
Thank you for your response but it still doesn't answer any of the conflicting responses from Asus.
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I'm not sure what having an unlocked phone has anything to do with VoLTE, whether the phone is locked or unlocked it can still be capable of VoLTE and there are plenty of unlocked phones out there that are. Eventually all phones will have to be VoLTE capable whether they want to or not, locked or unlocked.
In order to use TMobile's band 12 the phone must be VoLTE and E911 enabled certified by TMobile. TMobile issued a release on the already back in the summer. This phone will still work the TMobile system just fine as I'm using the Zenfone on both AT&T and TMobile and never had an issue hitting TMobile at all as it has the other bands TMobile uses.
I'm also aware as I stated above in my previous post that the phone can only use 1 sim at a time for data, however there are already dual sim phones that do not downgrade the second sim to 2/3G for voice/text it keeps it at 4G LTE with very little noticeable battery loss at all. Those phones and I had a Siswoo, was the same exact way in the OS that you tell it which sim you wish to use for data, this is not something new and has been around for quite some time. A lot of battery loss as to do with how well a company keeps up their firmware and OS on the phone to make sure the patches are done. To say nothing of how the actual end user uses the device itself.
The problem with downgrading the second sim to 2G would amount to the same issue I'm running into now with the Zenfone, it's completely useless as a dual sim phone as 2G is being shut down.
Thank you for your response but it still doesn't answer any of the conflicting responses from Asus.
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Unlocked devices typically do not go through carrier VoLTE certification, the exception being the Nexus 6 that was offered by carriers directly (and Apple devices but that's an entirely different beast), which is why it has Band 12 enabled. The new set of Nexus' and the Moto X Pure, which are not sold by carriers, have not gone through carrier VoLTE certification yet, so despite their hardware supporting Band 12, it's currently disabled. However, VoLTE is not a requirement yet, as no networks are planning on shutting down both their 2G and 3G signals anytime soon. Considering this phone will probably never be certified for VoLTE by AT&T/TMO (none of ASUS' other US devices have VoLTE certifications), there is no reason for both SIM slots to have 4G access at the same time. Since both slots support simultaneous 2G/3G, when AT&T/TMO get around to shutting down their 2G networks, the second SIM will continue to function normally and do calls/texts over the 3G network.
I don't know if only 1 SIM being able to access LTE is a hardware or software issue/limitation, but since carriers won't VoLTE certify it, it's a non-issue. The only difference is that MMS on the second SIM might take a second longer to download over 3G vs 4G.
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Unlocked devices typically do not go through carrier VoLTE certification, the exception being the Nexus 6 that was offered by carriers directly (and Apple devices but that's an entirely different beast), which is why it has Band 12 enabled. The new set of Nexus' and the Moto X Pure, which are not sold by carriers, have not gone through carrier VoLTE certification yet, so despite their hardware supporting Band 12, it's currently disabled. However, VoLTE is not a requirement yet, as no networks are planning on shutting down both their 2G and 3G signals anytime soon. Considering this phone will probably never be certified for VoLTE by AT&T/TMO (none of ASUS' other US devices have VoLTE certifications), there is no reason for both SIM slots to have 4G access at the same time. Since both slots support simultaneous 2G/3G, when AT&T/TMO get around to shutting down their 2G networks, the second SIM will continue to function normally and do calls/texts over the 3G network.
I don't know if only 1 SIM being able to access LTE is a hardware or software issue/limitation, but since carriers won't VoLTE certify it, it's a non-issue. The only difference is that MMS on the second SIM might take a second longer to download over 3G vs 4G.
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TMobile is the only carrier I think requiring certification, AT&T doesn't require anything. If your phone is equipped with VoLTE all you have to do is turn it on inside your phone with AT&T, TMobile requires you to call them and have it added to your account. Either way a phone still could be VoLTE whether unlocked or locked. certified or uncertified. AT&T rolled out VoLTE 2 years ago and TMobile is still in the beginning stages of a rollout. You're comparing Walmart with Macy's here, which is one of the reasons I ditched TMobile years ago. So I really don't care what TMobile does or doesn't do since they are not my main provider, AT&T is, so the fact band 12 isn't there has zero affect on my use. Regardless VoLTE has zero bearing on the what Asus is doing with the 2 sim modems in this phone. Since a dual active phone has 2 modems, my guess it is a software issue not a hardware issue.
AT&T has already started shutting down 2G in different areas and has stated by the end of 2016 all 2G will be shut down across the U.S. I'm in Florida and 2G is already down in certain areas. So yes, they have started shutting down 2G already. In fact my other sim from Three UK doesn't even offer 2G signal when in the UK, they don't have it at all on their spectrum.
Once again though, I still have conflicting information from 2 different Asus reps and nothing is being stated by them as to why and which one is the correct one.
This highlights the poor performance SIM 2 issue I went through on the ZF2 because of the 2G slot. It proved out because I have a new dual SIM phone now that gets LTE in both slots. I went through a terrible time unable to get calls in my house on the ZF2's second SIM. I'm able to on my new phone. I thought I was going to have issues at first, but my reception and SIM 2 availability have been consistent now. I can make and receive calls in my house just fine. I had minor issues at first, and it's fine now. My phone is provisioned to my new phone with my carrier on both slots. So that's what Asus needs to guarantee it can provide in that second slot; call reception that works! Too late for me. I found another product.
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This highlights the poor performance SIM 2 issue I went through on the ZF2 because of the 2G slot. It proved out because I have a new dual SIM phone now that gets LTE in both slots. I went through a terrible time unable to get calls in my house on the ZF2's second SIM. I'm able to on my new phone. I thought I was going to have issues at first, but my reception and SIM 2 availability have been consistent now. I can make and receive calls in my house just fine. I had minor issues at first, and it's fine now. My phone is provisioned to my new phone with my carrier on both slots. So that's what Asus needs to guarantee it can provide in that second slot; call reception that works! Too late for me. I found another product.
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Exactly Babsk. 2 days now and still no response as to what is the correct information from Asus. The rep on their own forum said he didn't know if an update to M would even be available, they're still working Lollipop. Really? Still working on Lollipop 5.0. I wish I could get that phone you got, but not enough bands for me are turned on.
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Exactly Babsk. 2 days now and still no response as to what is the correct information from Asus. The rep on their own forum said he didn't know if an update to M would even be available, they're still working Lollipop. Really? Still working on Lollipop 5.0. I wish I could get that phone you got, but not enough bands for me are turned on.
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floridaman: That's truly a shame. I had to research the bands thing too. I have AT&T and fortunately the missing LTE Band 5 is not a concern. My area is using Band 17 all the time and the Pure XL picks it up just fine. I did an LTE band check before I got this phone and then figured I would also test it after purchase. My speed tests show I get LTE and my display says it too.
I hope you can get an answer from Asus. It would be great if the Laser could work out for you.
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The octacore snap dragon makes this very tempting but no fast charge... Home on asus
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I have the octacore snapdragon and it supports fast charge
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I have the octacore snapdragon and it supports fast charge
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I noticed that as well in the specs on Qualcomm website's that this processor does have quickcharge. It's becoming clear that Asus goes in and firmware blocks things, for what reason is anyones guess.
If this phone had fast charge I would buy it and keep my zen2 as a backup
I'm looking into buying this since my ZE551ML has broken LCD. But, I'm confused with what the CS told me and what is advertised. CS told me that sim2 is only 2G/3G and not 2G/3G/4G as advertised.
Also, no root yet.
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I've reached the end of my patience with phones purchased from AT&T and their (lack of) upgrades. So I'm considering buying a new Samsung S& edge unlocked (SM-G935F) from an eBay seller. I have some questions about this process. I looked online but didn't find answers to my questions. If there's an online resource, feel free to redirect me.
Assumptions:
1) I'm satisfied with AT&T as a carrier.
2) Customer in good standing. No contract commitments.
3) I have as S6 with working AT&T nano-sim.
4) I'm fine purchasing for cash. I'm not interested in AT&T's Next plans.
Questions:
1) Do I simply move the sim to the new phone? Is any registration of the new phone/IMEI required with AT&T? Do I have to setup a new APN? Does call forwarding function the same?
2) Are there any features I lose vs. an AT&T branded phone? Samsung Pay? Any others?
3) AT&T uses LTE bands 2,4,5,17. So does the SM-G935F. So I should get the same LTE performance I would get with an AT&T branded phone, right?
4) How do I get system updates? With an AT&T branded phone, I get them OTA thru Settings>About Device>Software Update. How does this work with an unbranded phone when Samsung releases an update?
5) Do I get any support of the phone from AT&T or Samsung? No warranty, correct?
6) Are there any other pluses or minuses to this approach.
I will be going this route for the S7 as well. It's an expensive option but at least I won't have AT&T crapware and faster updates.
In my experience with previous unlocked phones, the SIM card can just be inserted into the new phone and it will automatically configure the data, mms, and voicemail settings.
Provided the phone you are purchasing supports the required LTE bands, there should be no difference in speed.
There will be no support from AT&T and the warranty is not valid within the U.S.
AFAIK Samsung Pay does not work on the international versions in the U.S. This is what will suck because I happen to like Samsung Pay.
AFAIK, your understanding is correct on all your points. I have an unlocked US Cellular moto e that I use as an alternate to my S6, I swap my SIM back and forth with no issues, and there is no official ATT support for the version of moto e that I have, so I can't imagine you'd have any issues getting the phone up and running. You may have to manually enter your APN, but that info is widely available and it's easy to do. Not sure how updates would work.
Only other consideration is that the int'l version uses an Exynos processor rather than the Snapdragon in the ATT version. From the reviews I've seen, the exynos beats the snapdragon slightly in performance and battery life. It's likely going to make development of custom ROMs for the S7 considerably slower than if it were snapdragon based though. However, the locked bootloader on the ATT one will = zero development unless it gets unlocked (I'm guessing that's very unlikely). So this probably doesn't matter too much.
There will also be no Voice over LTE (HD voice ) on the international version should that be a priority for you
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VoLTE would be nice. Any idea when AT&T plans to make that available for non-iPhones?
How are software updates delivered?
VoLTE is available on certain phone already. S6 and others support it. Depends on your area, so you will have to check the map.
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VoLTE is available on certain phone already. S6 and others support it. Depends on your area, so you will have to check the map.
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Yes but only on AT&T branded Android phones and iphones. The OP was speaking of an unbranded international version Galaxy S6 S7 which does not support volte
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I'm the OP. It appears that AT&T-branded S7's support VoLTE (HDVoice) as does (somewhat to my surprise) my S6, though I've never been aware of it based on any calls I've made or received. HDVoice appears to be available throughout my SF Bay Area. But, if I understand correctly, this would be a feature I would lose with an unbranded international phone (or, presumably, with an unlocked phone from, say, T-Mobile with an AT&T sim). Correct?
What about features that AT&T removed? Like download booster, simple sharing, and smart manager? These appear to be Samsung additions that were removed from AT&T-branded S6's. Would they be available on an unlocked, unbranded international version? (I'm not sure I would use these, but it's annoying to have them stripped by the carrier.)
And the remaining question that I haven't heard an answer to: how do I get upgrades? OTA (from who)? Download from somewhere & install with Smart Switch (or some other software)? Something Else?
Thanks for your help so far.
If I remember correctly you can download updated ota just like you do now. It just comes from Samsung not at&t.
All the carrier bloat is gone, and all factory apps will be there because there is no one to strip it from the phone.
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If you buy an unlocked t-mobile phone you will have to Odin the updates. I used a verizon s4 with t-mobile I had to manually update everything myself through XDA and odin.
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I sold my S6 Edge in December and swapped it with a Tmobile unlocked S6 Edge and what a good decision. Got my Marshmallow update this week and the phone felt new again. So much quicker and boosted my Antutu scores too.
8 year AT&T customer and I'm not coming back. LTE speeds and signal is great with Tmobile and unlimited video streaming.
https://store.google.com/product/nexus_6p Starts at $449. Monthly updates. Easy rooting. Easy everything. Great phone.
Came back here to see if any progress made on S6 bootloader unlock and/or rooting (for a friend), and saw this.
Switched to a Nexus when the Nexus 5 came out. I will never, ever, buy a non-Nexus phone ever again. You should be in full control of whatever hardware you buy. Control should never be dictated by a carrier.
Just thought I'd toss in my own perspective (from a former original Galaxy S then S3 owner). Never had any issues at all with my Nexus 5 or 6P. If you have the money, you won't regret a 6P purchase.
If you don't have that kind of money, I think the 4th Gen Moto G (soon to be released, leaks everywhere this week) will probably be the strongest choice.
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https://store.google.com/product/nexus_6p Starts at $449. Monthly updates. Easy rooting. Easy everything. Great phone.
Came back here to see if any progress made on S6 bootloader unlock and/or rooting (for a friend), and saw this.
Switched to a Nexus when the Nexus 5 came out. I will never, ever, buy a non-Nexus phone ever again. You should be in full control of whatever hardware you buy. Control should never be dictated by a carrier.
Just thought I'd toss in my own perspective (from a former original Galaxy S then S3 owner). Never had any issues at all with my Nexus 5 or 6P. If you have the money, you won't regret a 6P purchase.
If you don't have that kind of money, I think the 4th Gen Moto G (soon to be released, leaks everywhere this week) will probably be the strongest choice.
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Except there's no Smart Stay or Samsung Pay, both features I use and rely on. I'd buy an unlocked Samsung before a a Nexus.
I ordered a T-Mobile sim to test out the carrier where I live, I need to unlock my AT&T S6 Edge first but after that I plan on getting the new Nexus and selling my S6. I simply can't take AT&T's horrible service anymore.
I'm the OP and am back to report. I bought an S7E (G935F) on Amazon (from one of their Marketplace sellers), complete with Prime 2-day free shipping (& no tax). All works as expected:
1) dropping in my old AT&T SIM works fine. No need to call AT&T. No need to configure APNs. Voice calls, SMS, MMS, and LTE data all seem to work correctly. My LTE connection appeared to be on Band 2 in my area.
2) Of course, no AT&T crapware. Features deleted by AT&T are available (download booster, simple sharing, etc.) and work correctly. The Samsung-bundled Microsoft apps (and free 100GB OneDrive) are present.
3) OTA system software updates appear to be available, but there haven't been any.
4) Mine came with Arabic (?!) (and English) printed instructions but the phone sets up fine in English. The (apparently original, sealed) box included a European (Type-C) 2 pin power adapter (with a European-to-US adapter packed separately).
The only unexpected things I've encountered are:
1) changing the VoiceMail configuration. VM works (calls forward to VM as expected and I can retrieve VMs both by calling and using Visual VM app). The only thing I so far unable to do is CHANGE the VM configuration. I can't change the number I forward to (like Call Forward Always to another number, like a colleague). I get a Network Error message when loading the Phone/More Settings page or trying to set a new number. My wife has an AT&T LG G3 that has exactly the same problem. The HTC One M8 (where the S7E SIM came from) VM configuration worked correctly. But an AT&T Samsung S6 works correctly. I haven't found a way around this for any of the phones. I'm wondering if this is some kind of security provision (so that I can't "borrow" your SIM and change the call forwarding to re-route your incoming calls).
2) When I view my AT&T account online, the picture of the phone changed from it's previous model (HTC One M8) to Device Unknown. A minor detail, to be sure, but curious.
So, after a week, I would not hesitate to do this again in the future.
Glad It Worked out For you, I considered an unlocked model but don't want to loose HD Voice and wifi calling (once it arrives). I personally can hear an incredible differnce with HD voice enabled. couldnt care less about it, but video calling would also be lost with unlocked varient.
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You are correct & I neglected to mention that HDVoice, WiFi Calling, and Video Calling are absent in the International version. It would be nice to have those, but not critical for me. Voice, in general, is less and less important for me. There is video call button in my dialer but it doesn't appear to do anything useful, at least that I've been able to uncover. I have HDVoice on my AT&T S6 and in the few instances that I've had a potential HDVoice call (to a friend's AT&T S7E), I frankly couldn't detect a noticeable difference. I don't know how to see an indication of whether a call is HDVoice or not.
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You are correct & I neglected to mention that HDVoice, WiFi Calling, and Video Calling are absent in the International version. It would be nice to have those, but not critical for me. Voice, in general, is less and less important for me. There is video call button in my dialer but it doesn't appear to do anything useful, at least that I've been able to uncover. I have HDVoice on my AT&T S6 and in the few instances that I've had a potential HDVoice call (to a friend's AT&T S7E), I frankly couldn't detect a noticeable difference. I don't know how to see an indication of whether a call is HDVoice or not.
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On AT&T with an international version you typically loose the HDvoice, Wifi calling and video calling. I have seen people on Verizon with unlocked phones (Galaxy series, htc 10, 6P) that report you can use those features on their network. I think the ideal situation is to have an unlocked phone on Verizon at this point.
OP again with an update... Got a 2nd G935F for wife. Running G935FXXU1APD with AT&T SIM. Call forwarding worked fine on this one. (Not sure why it doesn't work on my other one.) Also, sideloaded Samsung Pay & Samsung Pay Framework from APK Mirror. Installed and works fine. So my list of things that don't work is just HD Voice, WiFi calling and Video calling.
OP again. I'm now more confused. I now have 2 unlocked S7 Edge (one G935F and one G935FD). Both unlocked. Both using AT&T sims. Identical software on both. On the FD, things work better than I was expecting: Samsung Pay works. I can add cards and use it to pay. I can also change the Call Forwarding settings (in particular CF All). But the 935F can't add a card to Samsung Pay (server connection error) and I can't change the CF settings. There are a number of online references complaining about server connection error and many seem related to device encryption (can't add cards to encrypted devices). I also have an S6 that's working with SPay and was encrypted with Lollipop. With Marshmallow, the Lock Screen settings have changed and it's no longer encrypt/decrypt device, only Require screen lock to decrypt data when device turned on. There doesn't seem to be an obvious way to decrypt a Marshmallow device. But even with this set, I can add cards to me S6 and S7E (FD), but not my S7E (F).
I suppose I should be grateful that SP works at all on one of my unlocked S7Es. But it's frustrating to have them behave differently.
SO I picked up a 256GB emperor edition from Korea. It is Confirmed to have every single LTE band that AT&T uses. I put my sim in and only get 3G not 4G. Called at&t and they said they need to re-appropriate the IMEI for the USA as it comes up as a 2g/3g phone because the SKoren SK telecom IMEI assigned to the phone is different in the USA. IS that True? Anyone know how and if I can get the Phone to work on 4G LTE on at&t or do I have to hope they get it right? I paid $1400 for this phone I don't want to use a 64GB version I have been waiting to have 500+ GB on a phone for so long.. Any TIps? Hints? Recommendations?
EDIT: for those reading this thread for the first time. As of 10/9/17 I was able to get good LTE speeds as well as WIFI calling and Video Calling on my N950N note 8 Korean Exynos model. In a nutshell here is what I did to make it work.
Flash nemesis n950F rom to my phone.
Flash AT&T CSC to the phone using the CSC tool and you do have to modify one line (user RED FLAME) has this in the CSC thread.
Call at&t and give them the IMEI of a VOLTE wifi calling/video calling capable cellphone (I used my wifes S8+ - and yes you can DOUBLE USE IMEI on the same account)
I also did one other thing - Check page 14 for that information.
I just wanted to give a synopsis of this thread so new N950N and at&t owners don't feel like they are wasting their time searching XDA and google. I only wish other people did this when their problem is solved so people can easily see they are not in the wrong place and don't have to read tons of pages of stuff.
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SO I picked up a 256GB emperor edition from Korea. It is Confirmed to have every single LTE band that AT&T uses. I put my sim in and only get 3G not 4G. Called at&t and they said they need to re-appropriate the IMEI for the USA as it comes up as a 2g/3g phone because the SKoren SK telecom IMEI assigned to the phone is different in the USA. IS that True? Anyone know how and if I can get the Phone to work on 4G LTE on at&t or do I have to hope they get it right? I paid $1400 for this phone I don't want to use a 64GB version I have been waiting to have 500+ GB on a phone for so long.. Any TIps? Hints? Recommendations?
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Hi.
There is a thread somewhere here they were talking about similar problems.
What you where told is essentially correct. Though they also said that they needed a new sim card, too.
Hope this helps. Still waiting for my Note 8.
Too bad those devices do not have the CDMA bands...
I have the same model and same problem but with softbank, though softbank has been less helpful.. i read someone flashing a different csc (if its the right one) will "unblock" the phone? Would any exymos model csc work?
My roaming menu is also greyed out... not sure if that is related.
I think you just need to give them the IMEI and have them set it up for LTE in their system, since they don't by default allow LTE on bring your own devices.
Did you change the apn? I have the same phone on tmobile and i changed the apn to the tmobile apn and i have no problems with the phone.
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I think you just need to give them the IMEI and have them set it up for LTE in their system, since they don't by default allow LTE on bring your own devices.
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Just a quick comment - I think you mis-spoke. ATT Does allow LTE on Bring your own devices. I have been using G955F variants for the last 4 years and never had to do anything other than put the SIM card in for it to work. HOwever, LTE Enhanced Services are not available on Bring your own Devices. This includes HD Calling, Wifi Calling and Video Calling. BUT, LTE will work.
I don't know anything about the Korean Model so I hope the OP is able to get things straightened out - but other variants have always worked on ATT - including TMOBILE PHONES and international variants as well.
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Just a quick comment - I think you mis-spoke. ATT Does allow LTE on Bring your own devices. I have been using G955F variants for the last 4 years and never had to do anything other than put the SIM card in for it to work. HOwever, LTE Enhanced Services are not available on Bring your own Devices. This includes HD Calling, Wifi Calling and Video Calling. BUT, LTE will work.
I don't know anything about the Korean Model so I hope the OP is able to get things straightened out - but other variants have always worked on ATT - including TMOBILE PHONES and international variants as well.
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That's probably what I meant. I haven't been an AT&T customer for many years, and have been with T-mobile for all my smart phone career, and they don't require any special setup on their end for VoLTE, Wi-Fi calling, etc as I can confirm with my Korean Note 8. After somewhat jankily switching CSCs with a modified script that was originally made for S8 and 8+ phones I definitely have VoLTE and probably have Wi-Fi calling working without any communication to T-mobile.
Waiting on at&t now.. to see what happens.. SPEC for SPEC this phone is exactly the same as an at&t phone. It has every single band, not missing a single one. If you put the specs side by side there is ZERO difference. I changed the APN - there are 3 at&t choices. One gives me 3G the other 2 do not work. SO waiting on at&t to re-appropriate the IMEI to register as a note 8 on their network. I had not idea it was going to be this much of a pain in the arse. I was told by a few sellers, pop in your sim and your good to go. I did need a new sim since my note 4 sim did not fit in the note 8, so They gave me a new sim. I put the sim (using an adapter) back into my Note 4 until they change over the IMEI and the new sim works just fine on the note 4 - all my video calling, wifi calling and tethering work fine. So hoping I do not need to return this phone and use a 64GB model. I wish samsung would just release the 256 here on at&t like apple is doing with the iphone X. I would pay $1200 for it no problem. (and since the iphone X is $1149 with 256gb - I am sure samsung would do $999 or $1099 to undercut apple. But Samsung is going to epic fail and never give the US customers what they want.
Hi there, I would also like to have the Emperor's edition, and use it in Canada (Bell) and USA (T-Mobile or AT&T). Is N950N the correct model number for this edition? Does it come with dual sim? Thanks! So far I found an Ebay seller from Hong Kong with F950FD which looks to be 256GB Duos - I'm wondering what the difference is with N950N and whether I will have an issue with region lock?
Thanks for any comments...
I have the unlocked version on at&t and this is my son, just in case...
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I have the unlocked version on at&t and this is my son, just in case...
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Did you need a new sim card?
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Did you need a new sim card?
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No, I was using it on a HTC10 and previously on a Note 4...
Totally DIsappointed... No way I am keeping this $1300 phone for how crappy it is on At&T.
They Finally Updated the IMEI so that is shows up as a next gen smartphone on at&t network and I get an LTE logo. I set my own ACCESS POINT as well as used all 3 that showed up automatically. ATT Phone, ATT NEXTGENPHONE and ATT UTDATA (Nextgen) + I did what was recommended on att.com for bringing over a phone that might not get the access point which was the same settings as ATT Phone - all of them gave me LTE on my bar and showed AT&T as the network. Every single LTE Band on this phone is the same as the official ATT note 8. Yet on my speed test I couldn't get better than 4MB/s down and 1.56MB/s up, my note 4 (pop the sim card back in there) even with 1 Bar on my phone I get 42MB/s download and like 10MB/s Upload.
IT is too late to call at&t tonight but I am extremely disappointed. I have wanted a phone with 256GB of memory for like 2 years now, and to have MicroSD expansion for just MUSIC (NOTHING ELSE).
If At&t can't get this note 8 to perform exactly like a at&t version would, then I either going back to my Note 4 or Perhaps the US Samsung unlocked version (which I already have but is not opened as I hoped to sell it and make a few hundred on it to make up for the $1300 I spent on this Emperor Edition.
Any advice?
Anyone want to buy it.. I paid $1299.99 Shipped from NK. Instead of returning it - if anyone wants to buy it, id do the same thing $1299.99 shipped anywhere in US or Canada. Perhaps it will work better on another network...
jocarog said:
I have the unlocked version on at&t and this is my son, just in case...
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Does your unlocked version work as it should.. FAST LTE 4G LTE? Does your WIFI and Video Calling work?
Comp1demon said:
Totally DIsappointed... No way I am keeping this $1300 phone for how crappy it is on At&T.
They Finally Updated the IMEI so that is shows up as a next gen smartphone on at&t network and I get an LTE logo. I set my own ACCESS POINT as well as used all 3 that showed up automatically. ATT Phone, ATT NEXTGENPHONE and ATT UTDATA (Nextgen) + I did what was recommended on att.com for bringing over a phone that might not get the access point which was the same settings as ATT Phone - all of them gave me LTE on my bar and showed AT&T as the network. Every single LTE Band on this phone is the same as the official ATT note 8. Yet on my speed test I couldn't get better than 4MB/s down and 1.56MB/s up, my note 4 (pop the sim card back in there) even with 1 Bar on my phone I get 42MB/s download and like 10MB/s Upload.
IT is too late to call at&t tonight but I am extremely disappointed. I have wanted a phone with 256GB of memory for like 2 years now, and to have MicroSD expansion for just MUSIC (NOTHING ELSE).
If At&t can't get this note 8 to perform exactly like a at&t version would, then I either going back to my Note 4 or Perhaps the US Samsung unlocked version (which I already have but is not opened as I hoped to sell it and make a few hundred on it to make up for the $1300 I spent on this Emperor Edition.
Any advice?
Anyone want to buy it.. I paid $1299.99 Shipped from NK. Instead of returning it - if anyone wants to buy it, id do the same thing $1299.99 shipped anywhere in US or Canada. Perhaps it will work better on another network...
Does your unlocked version work as it should.. FAST LTE 4G LTE? Does your WIFI and Video Calling work?
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Have you Odin the CSC and IMS? From what I have read that needs to be done?
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No, I haven't flashed the CSC profile, no wifi calling or VOLTE but internet speed is fast...
Comp1demon said:
Totally DIsappointed... No way I am keeping this $1300 phone for how crappy it is on At&T. .......
Any advice?
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tl;dr - Under Settings->Connections->More Settings there's an option titled Reset Network Settings and, i had to use that on my Korean, Note Fan Edition to get LTE working.
more detail on how i got VoLTE and HD Voice working.... i grabbed an ATT (Snapdragon) S8+ CSC and manually applied to the FE. To get HDVoice and VoLTE working, i called ATT and told them i was going to use my (no-longer used/retired) ATT Samsung S7Active with my cell number. this step was a must to get VoLTE working. once they associated S7Active IMEI with my cell number, i rebooted the Note FE and VoLTE was active. i occasionally receive calls and the HD Voice icon appears on the dialer screen; i assume the other person is calling me via Wifi when i see the icon. Video calling and Wifi calling haven't worked for me on none of my international devices. once i got my UK note 8, i applied the same CSC content (after rooting my device), i inserted the same ATT sim used in the Note FE, reset network settings and VoLTE and HD Voice (when receiving calls) still works.
I don't know about the Korean model, but here is how you get Volte on ATT on the Note 8 F model. https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=73851525&postcount=308 After you slightly modify the zip and flash this, you must call ATT and give the friendly customer service person the IMEI of a phone purchased from ATT directly that is roughly equivalent and had Volte and wifi calling features. I used an old S7. ATT will NOT accept an IMEI of any phone not sold by ATT. Once they put it into their system, reboot your Note 8 and whala - wifi calling and Volte work perfectly.
Flame Red said:
I don't know about the Korean model, but here is how you get Volte on ATT on the Note 8 F model. https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=73851525&postcount=308 After you slightly modify the zip and flash this, you must call ATT and give the friendly customer service person the IMEI of a phone purchased from ATT directly that is roughly equivalent and had Volte and wifi calling features. I used an old S7. ATT will NOT accept an IMEI of any phone not sold by ATT. Once they put it into their system, reboot your Note 8 and whala - wifi calling and Volte work perfectly.
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Kind of a NOOB when it comes to all this. I haven't flashed or done any phone hacking in a few years (my s4 was the last phone I really played with).
SO I downloaded the CSC Selection V1.2.1 on Android Filehost
I honestly do not know what to do from here.
Thanks.
Comp1demon said:
Kind of a NOOB when it comes to all this. I haven't flashed or done any phone hacking in a few years (my s4 was the last phone I really played with).
SO I downloaded the CSC Selection V1.2.1 on Android Filehost
I honestly do not know what to do from here.
Thanks.
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did you try resetting network settings to at least get LTE going? Under Settings->Connections->More Settings there's an option titled Reset Network Settings and, i had to use that on my Korean, Note Fan Edition to get LTE working. Or are you good to go on LTE?