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If you happen to be covered by Sprint's LTE and are looking for an upgrade over your still sexy Nexus 4 you should seriously consider the value and performance this phone has to offer. I love my nexus 4 but was really starting to get tired of the poop battery life and constantly hitting my 2.5GB limit of very poor ATT HSPA+ speed every month. And while the CPU doesn't quite match the power of the Nexus 4 I honestly don't care because I can't notice any difference at all except I get twice the screen on time with the Crystal. Here's some thoughts I shared on the Sharp Aquos Crystal forums.
I got the phone for $49. I ported my # over from att to get 100 off the phone plus got 10GB of LTE for 55 per month. Ended up paying around $110 total. I consistently get 20-30MB down. I'm also coming from a Nexus 4. So heres my breakdown as compared to the LG Nexus 4, which I love by the way. In all honesty there's lots of similarities between the Nexus 4 and the Aquos Crystal. That's an excellent thing in my book. Here goes.....
The Design of the Crystal is simply breathtaking. It seriously looks like something from the future(think Total Recall, Fifth Element). It's imposing, has presence, and with the screen on it commands attention from a good distance away. It has a metal frame! No BS! Pretty impressive! While I think the Nexus 4 is one of the most sexiest phones ever made with the screen on, the Crystal is just amazing and better looking than any other smartphone available. With the screen off the Nexus 4 beats everything and that probably won't ever change.
Battery life is CRAZY good. I can't understand for the life of me how I got 6 hours of SOT for my first charge! Everything was syncing and setting up(used a GB of data(Damn)). I expect it to get even better! One of my reasons for wanting to upgrade from my Nexus 4 was battery life. Sure it's 2 years old but I could only muster around 3-4 hours SOT. Lame
I also love how Sharp kept raw Android yet added some useful and some just cool features. Thank you for proper on screen keys!!!!!!
Side by side the Crystal is ever so slightly shorter than the Nexus 4 yet it's screen is 5 inches vs the 4's 4.7 incher. This overall form, function, and innovative design adds to the futuristic feel. It's more comfortable to use one handed than the nexus 4 and every 5 inch flagship available today(I've held all of them).
Screen quality is very close but if anything the Crystal feels much more vibrant and beautiful at lower brightness settings to the Nexus 4. (I cry for my nexus on the inside)
Data speeds where I'm at literally smash every other carrier to pieces. And I get 10GB vs. 2.5 of HSPA+
So battery life is so good you can't figure out how it's possible...
Breathtaking and innovative design that will surely be copied soon. That screen is beautiful and magical. Yea, the no earpiece technology from 100 years from now works like a dream. Call quality is fantastic and the HD voice works eerily well.
Build quality. A metal frame on a prepaid phone...What else to say? Fit and finish is great too.
What sucks? Well the camera kinda. As a Nexus 4 owner I'm used to it but the Nexus 4 camera sprays poo on the Crystal's. I actually love the Crystal's camera UI very much and think it's a very nice camera app that offers just enough and not too much. Outdoor performance is pretty average but indoors or under low light it's pretty abysmal. I don't really care either. I paid $49 for the phone. Keyword being phone and not camera
Aside from the camera the only other negative I can think of is we probably won't ever get an update. Then again not much is known about how well or poor Sharp supports their phones. Who knows they might try and make a positive first impression by updating it. Hard to tell.
Meanwhile my nexus 4 will get Lollipop as soon as it comes out......in two weeks..
In terms of a quality OS, anything Jellybean and up is pretty fantastic in my opinion. So having KitKat forever isn't really bad at all at least to me.
So coming from a Nexus 4 I'm seriously impressed with this Sharp Aquos Crystal and would highly recommend it to anybody. The value alone boggles the mind. It could easily sell for twice or three times as much.
If anyone has any questions I'll be happy to help give some feedback. Thanks for reading!
wow, great review. I'm looking for a better battery related upgrade so I will now go and check this phones looks out on Google I was actually thinking of downgrading screen size to achieve better battery but by the sounds of your review I may not have to.
I'm not that bothered about core speed and high end performance so long as its performance can perform to my needs, which is not that demanding to be honest.
heading over to Google now
edit: Mmmmm actually not feeling the love for this after viewing it.
Thanks.
Regards as always
maybe this phone is great in USA, but it's CDMA only phone and not a GSM device, it will not work on any GSM network worldwide- or I'm wrong ?
6 hours of SOT.... And a magical screen..... And a metal frame...
Almost a week out and just the overall ease of use, striking design along with what I mentioned above makes it an insane value as well as hard to put down! My nexus 4 is in the top drawer of my dresser. I'll pull it out to play with Lollipop
Came across this comparison, Note 4 crushes the competition.
Note 4 was found to have superior:
Display
Battery
Camera
Storage
RAM
I really think with the 16MP Camera, Samsung has finally created the best smartphone camera.
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Display.- Yes, definitely.
Battery.- I have heard the iphone 6+ has better SOT from most reviews. Not sure, though.
Camera.- iPhone has better low light shots, Samsung has better day light shots.
Storage.- Well... you can get a 128GB iphone, but that will depend on what you want to waste, for the same price, yes, you get more space with the note
RAM.- Android uses more ram than iOS, I'd say that iphone performs smoother due to optimization.
I've only looked into half a dozen reviews, and I'm not going to deny that the iPhone 6+ has some strengths (battery life). These phones are both excellent so I don't really see a clear-cut victor. Maybe that will change over time with new software.
I've been using the camera non-stop all week because I've been at a wedding in Sonoma. I'm not a photographer by a long shot and have used the camera on "auto" with HDR "on." I took this one this morning at a vinyard. They asked me to e-mail it to then to use on their website.
Ultra low light is nothing to write home about. Low light can be impressive.
Here's another good pic...
The Note 4's camera is good. And as a point-and-shoot which is the way 90% of people will use it. If I can get shots like this, anyone can.
At the end of the day, we have amazing choices of phones right now especially if you consider the Droid Turbo (I know it's Verizon only, but rumored variants coming to other carriers).
The differences between them have definitely narrowed and it comes down to what's most important to the customer. MAC/iOS people gonna iPhone, Android fanatics gonna Nexus... and the rest are up for grabs.
The Note 4 is definitely an amazing phone. Built in multi-window, floating apps, and the stylus are freaking amazing for a power user like myself. I can't believe I waited this long to jump on board.
The iPhone's better low light photos and marginally better battery life (if that's the case) is irrelevant to the features exclusive to the Note 4 line. (Apple isn't even an option for me even so.)
You just can't really go wrong if you're getting a top of the line phone for what you want. Sure there are some sacrifices to weigh, but there's never going to be a perfect phone for everyone.
To borrow from Nintendo, NOW WE'RE PLAYING WITH POWER!
Note 4 has the advantage of the external battery. You can buy Samsung battery pack with the charger and stop worrying about battery life. Now about ram ios doesn't require the same as Android to run smoothly but if you want to have over 3-4 tabs on safari without refreshing then you have a problem. Look at the new Ipad air with 2gb ram
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Just remembered, Note 4 also has the MicroSD card slot. That's a huge difference in them.
I just switched to a Note 4 from an iPhone 6 Plus after 2.5 months. Here's my feedback:
Display - Note 4 is definitely better.
Battery - My iPhone lasted much longer than Note 4 but that may be because I have been installing apps/widgets left and right. We'll see once things settle.
Camera - Note 4 is slightly better for low-light pictures.
Storage - I had a 64GB iPhone and that was good for me. With Note 4, I will need to buy a card.
RAM - Note 4 may have 3GB of RAM (vs. 1GB on iPhone) but my iPhone ran much smoother than Note 4. I get occasional freeze and lag with Note 4.
I have booth Note 4, iPhone 6 plus and a Nexus 5.
Camera. Slighty better but much slower than the iPhone. On the other hand is speed essensial for my kind of usage.
Smoothness. Note 4 ain't close to Nexus and iPhone. I was a bit shocked when I noticed that not very much had happened since the S5, my chinese MX4 is butter compared if you counting all small lags. I flashed latest firmware two days ago and it feels a little bit better.
Storage. Has 64 on the iPhone and it's more than I need right now.
Display. Really good but I haven't used it outdoor on a sunny beach yet
Battery. Not as good as I hoped for. I have exactly the same apps and usage on all androids and it's very ok but not stunning. So far LG G2 and OnePlus roles my SOT with hours. I have a feeling the iPhone is slightly better. You can't really count on tests like GSM arena, they don't have my 84 apps installed.
Im using both for 2.5 months now.
Screen=note 4 is better but both great
Camera= i dont see any speed difference. Daylight note 4 better. In low light 6 plus abit better. Both very close.
Video=quality for note 4 Ois performance better on 6 plus.
Performance: note 4 is faster on pretty much every 3rd party app. 6 plus faster on system apps(gallery, phone etc)
Smoothness is pretty much same for me i dont realy see big difference. Only recents app has 0.5 delay on note 4(happens sometimes)
6 plus definetly needs 2gb ram safari is headache with 1gb. 2-3 tabs then reload is suck. Multitasking is better on note 4 too. But both good.
Battery in my usage note 4 is better.
From the design iPhone 6 plus loses to the Note 4. Apple did absolutely nothing for the iPhone 6 Plus other than stretching the iPhone 6. (or shrinking the iPad Air, depending on how you look at it) The phone is so slippery and uncomfortable even for occasional one-handed operation. I know people will augment the grips with cases, but that still does not help with its underlying design incompetence. Some of these iSheep would argue how inferior plastic is compared to aluminum used for soda cans, and would insist that cases should not be a consideration when discussing phone designs. How the times have changed.. I totally share Erica Griffin's experience with iPhone 6 Plus' ergonomics. (minus the girl jeans part, lol) Compare that with the Note 4, it looks abundantly clear who has more knowledge and experience in manufacturing phablets.
The rest of stuff is more about iOS v. Android to me, and I know which way I roll. There is just no competition. Though it does help to make a decision that iPhone 6 Plus lags and Safari refreshes tabs more than ever before thanks to the puny 1 GB of RAM Apple deliberately put in for planned obsolescence.
Note 4 has very good screen and battery life for me, but regarding smoothness Samsung is miles behind my Nexus 5 or even 4. Storage is impressive with SD card, but then again I didn't have problems with space on Nexus either. It is very good hardware with very bad soft. Things changed drastically with CM12 tough, now it is far smoother than Nexus 5.
I do not understand all the fuss with photos, none of the phones has good enough camera to replace proper camera. You can take a photo when needed.
If u don't mind rooting, Note 4 is great piece of hardware. If you prefer not to do it you might be better off with Nexus 6.
The best camera in the world should be the one you carrying around daily
I think and hope that the Lollipop for the Note is going to give it a bit less bumpy road. Some people care for it and some don't, same as with everything else in the world. If the Note can give me 50-60 fps and less hiccup I'd love the ride.
Sent from a 6 Plus.
Hey guys,
So today was preorder day for the Oneplus one. I have an order in for both the Nexus 6 and a One Plus. I have not really decided which one I will keep. If I keep the Nexus, I will probably give the One plus to my little sister for her birthday (because she is still rocking an iPhone 4s).
I know all the specs of the two phones and there are certain details about the N6 I like over the OPO. For instance I like the curved screen on the N6 (like on the MotoX) and the wireless charging and the better camera. Both my brothers have OPO's and they love them.
But the price difference is HUGE! 350 vs 700. (Though to be fair I still like that I bought both of them for about the same price as a 128gig iPhone 6+.
Anyway, I was wondering if there was anyone out there that has gotten their N6 and also has a OPO that has any opinions on the matter.
Cheers!
CowboyNick
CowboyNick13 said:
Hey guys,
So today was preorder day for the Oneplus one. I have an order in for both the Nexus 6 and a One Plus. I have not really decided which one I will keep. If I keep the Nexus, I will probably give the One plus to my little sister for her birthday (because she is still rocking an iPhone 4s).
I know all the specs of the two phones and there are certain details about the N6 I like over the OPO. For instance I like the curved screen on the N6 (like on the MotoX) and the wireless charging and the better camera. Both my brothers have OPO's and they love them.
But the price difference is HUGE! 350 vs 700. (Though to be fair I still like that I bought both of them for about the same price as a 128gig iPhone 6+.
Anyway, I was wondering if there was anyone out there that has gotten their N6 and also has a OPO that has any opinions on the matter.
Cheers!
CowboyNick
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I owned the OnePlus One. Price is awesome for the specs, but CM11S (At least 38R, the last verison I had before I sold it) is so buggy it's a deal breaker for me.
I also owned a OnePlus One. I was not impressed with the screen on it and the bugginess of CM11s. I tried swapping ROMs but overall the phone just didn't feel as solid as my Nexus 5. I ended up selling it and going back to my Nexus 5 until the Nexus 6 came out. After playing with a display Nexus 6 at T-Mobile yesterday, I think I'm going to pick one up. Keep in mind that it feels SIGNIFICANTLY bigger in hand than the OnePlus One, don't let anyone try and tell you otherwise. But if you think you can deal with the size, the Nexus 6 is a much better phone, in my opinion.
I hope to find out by 12\2 when my Cloud White 32gb is set to arrive From Motorola. I have been using a OnePlus One since July and to be honest it has been a great phone. Maybe I got lucky but I have bought and sold a Nexus 5, Note 3, Moto X 2013, Sony Z3 Compact and most recently a G3. Oneplus is just a great overall package. I have no reason to switch to the Nexus 6 but I just couldn't resist and my only hope is that battery life is better than the Nexus 5 as that really was the only downside of owning it.
radeon962 said:
I hope to find out by 12\2 when my Cloud White 32gb is set to arrive From Motorola. I have been using a OnePlus One since July and to be honest it has been a great phone. Maybe I got lucky but I have bought and sold a Nexus 5, Note 3, Moto X 2013, Sony Z3 Compact and most recently a G3. Oneplus is just a great overall package. I have no reason to switch to the Nexus 6 but I just couldn't resist and my only hope is that battery life is better than the Nexus 5 as that really was the only downside of owning it.
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Awesome, please let me know when you get the Nexus. Mine has not come yet, and my One plus wont be here for another four weeks, so If I like the N6 I think ill just cancel my OPO pre order.
Have both phones. 44S is solid stable. Oneplus has better battery life. The 6 is a great phone, just different. Still getting used to the size. I'm having a wifi issue with the nexus that is ticking me off. The phone shows connected, but there is major lag on the device navigating to pages. Turning it off and the pages come up as fast as you can click them on LTE. Don't have issues with any other device in the house. Toggling WiFi can help, bit the issue returns...
I have all three(including the Note 4) and if you want the best purchase for your money then go with the OnePlus One. It has the best battery life, the best performance at the moment since it's still on KitKat, and I feel I don't get significantly better experience on the Note 4 and Nexus 6 than the One. CM11 is a little buggy every update fixes bugs and Cyanogen Mod is dedicated to bringing Lollipop to the One in three months. Personally, I think the OnePlus One is the best phone you can get in 2014 at a very affordable price.
jairusz said:
I have all three(including the Note 4) and if you want the best purchase for your money then go with the OnePlus One. It has the best battery life, the best performance at the moment since it's still on KitKat, and I feel I don't get significantly better experience on the Note 4 and Nexus 6 than the One. CM11 is a little buggy every update fixes bugs and Cyanogen Mod is dedicated to bringing Lollipop to the One in three months. Personally, I think the OnePlus One is the best phone you can get in 2014 at a very affordable price.
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Bringing lollipop and a bunch of new bugs... CM was better when it was non caf
CowboyNick13 said:
Hey guys,
So today was preorder day for the Oneplus one. I have an order in for both the Nexus 6 and a One Plus. I have not really decided which one I will keep. If I keep the Nexus, I will probably give the One plus to my little sister for her birthday (because she is still rocking an iPhone 4s).
I know all the specs of the two phones and there are certain details about the N6 I like over the OPO. For instance I like the curved screen on the N6 (like on the MotoX) and the wireless charging and the better camera. Both my brothers have OPO's and they love them.
But the price difference is HUGE! 350 vs 700. (Though to be fair I still like that I bought both of them for about the same price as a 128gig iPhone 6+.
Anyway, I was wondering if there was anyone out there that has gotten their N6 and also has a OPO that has any opinions on the matter.
Cheers!
CowboyNick
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The screen on the N6 is NOT curved, just the back. Common misconception.
jairusz said:
I have all three(including the Note 4) and if you want the best purchase for your money then go with the OnePlus One. It has the best battery life, the best performance at the moment since it's still on KitKat, and I feel I don't get significantly better experience on the Note 4 and Nexus 6 than the One. CM11 is a little buggy every update fixes bugs and Cyanogen Mod is dedicated to bringing Lollipop to the One in three months. Personally, I think the OnePlus One is the best phone you can get in 2014 at a very affordable price.
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That doesnt even apply to people on sprint or verizon.
Sold my OnePlus and note 3 for Nexus 6 and not looking back. Both were great phones with great batteries but I like having the latest greatest phone.
Ian B
OnePlus wins hands down but I have one caution, if you're on T-Mobile there is no band 2 or 12 support. If the OnePlus had that I wouldn't have even considered a new phone. Other than that the on plus is a awesome phone.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk
I feel that the OPO has a better battery life as well. But Turbo Charging... can't live without that now. It just charges so fast and impressive.
Well if you like the One + camera this has the same sensor with OIS which is good. The IMX214 is a good sensor so hopefully we can get devs to have the software follow.
Source:
https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Nexus+6+Teardown/32877
zephiK said:
I feel that the OPO has a better battery life as well. But Turbo Charging... can't live without that now. It just charges so fast and impressive.
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Yeah but if you don't need to charge then the turbo charger isn't as important. Of I find myself needing a little boost for good measure on the one plus a charge while I shower before going out for the night always gets me enough juice and then some.
Man itd be nice if the one plus had those bands I need.
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Nexus 6 VS One Plus One
Hey Guys,
So here goes my story...
I ordered my One Plus (during the preorder with no Invite) maybe a week after I ordered my Nexus 6 and got the OPO two days before my Nexus arrived. However, at that time I refrained from opening the OPO because I didn't want to lose the resale value of the OPO. In the end the chrome N on the back of the Nexus fell of and I decided to open the OPO to compare the two. I decided to keep the OPO and return the Nexus, below are some of the reasons I made that choice.
I opened the Nexus 6 and was stunned by the phone. Watching the videos and reading reviews you get a sense of the size of the phone, but never having held it before this I was not really sure what to expect. This phone is HUGE. I was stunned by the build quality and the size. I loved the curved edges of the screen and the resolution was amazing. I was okay with the size because it could still fit in my (skinny) jeans pockets, but I was not in love with it. I was originally gunning for the Cloud white, but couldn't get my hands on it. Got the Midnight Blue in 64 gig and ended up loving the color. I loved the color until I touched the back of the phone and realized that my fingerprints got everywhere. Seriously, this phone is a smudge magnet. However, since I am not a fan of cases, this was something I could live with.
Similarly opening the box of the One Plus One I was very impressed. The packaging was very nicely done. I know it does not have any impact on how the phone is used, but it is a very nice presentation that I appreciated none the less. The phone itself has very nice build quality. It does not have as many curves and subtleties as the Nexus, but I like the way it feels in my hand and equals the 6 in quality, even if it is a simpler design.
I used the Nexus 6 for three weeks and am on my sixth day with the One Plus. Here are my impressions of the devices after that period mainly focusing on what stands out during MY use of them.
Ergonomics:
As far as the feel of the Nexus 6 is concerned at first I was worried about how big it was. I was coming from a 4 inch screen of the iPhone 5 and was a bit scared about how it was going to work. After three weeks I was no longer worried about it. I have gotten used to it. However, I was not sold on the 6 inch screen. It was never 100 percent comfortable for me to use and I always had to use two hands. I have hands on the smaller size, but not freakishly small, however I was always scared to use it one handed, even just opening up my twitter feed and scrolling through gave pause because I was afraid to drop it and crack that beautiful screen. One thing that I found particularly difficult was texting. If I were in bed with the phone above my head, it was so hard to text because the screen was so wide. My fingers did not have enough range of motion to hold the phone in a secure way and also reach the outer edges of the screen to reach letters such as A or L, O and P. It was a weird experience that I remedied by installing the Swype keyboard app and condensed the keyboard to one side of the screen.
Using the One Plus One immediately felt more comfortable. It seems to fit my hand better and I am a huge fan of the “sandstone” texture of the back. I can use it more easily with one hand and am able to text using one hand as well.
Screen and Media Viewing Experience:
As for that Nexus 6 screen. What can I say. It is beautiful. The colors are great and its sharp as a tack. I loved watching videos on it and reading kindle books on it. It was noticeably sharper than the OPO's 1080p screen. It's not a day and night difference, and if the two weren't sitting next to each other on the table, I probably would not have noticed anything. But when the two phones are next to each other you can tell which one has a higher resolution display. I used the Nexus to watch a lot of youtube videos and loved the experience. With the front firing speakers, this was a great media consumption device. I loved being able to use this instead of my computer or tablet to watch videos and read books or news articles. Six inches was a great size to view everything on.
The One Plus One also has a great screen. The colors are accurate and it is very pleasing to look at. I can watch youtube videos here also, however the overall experience is not as nice because the speakers are not forward firing. Though they have great volume, the speakers are not as good to use as the Nexus simply because of their orientation. With this phone I am more predisposed to watch videos on my tablet or TV. Reading is a very similar experience and I have no problem reading for more than an hour on either device.
Usability:
This section is where the One Plus really starts to pull away. For those who don’t remember the specs (lets be real though, I’m just putting them here so we can all revel at the fact that both of these phones have more power than my current work computer) the Nexus 6 sports the new quad-core Snapdragon 805 clocked at 2.7 GHz with 3 gigs of ram while the One Plus One has the one generation older quad-core 801 chip clocked at 2.5 GHz with the same amount of ram. For reference my “vintage” 2012 Macbook Air has a 2GHz i5 intel chip with 4 gigs of ram.
I don’t know if I had a bad Nexus (or a spectacularly good One Plus), but it always felt like the Nexus was taking a tenth of a second more to think about the things it wanted to do. The One Plus, on the other hand feels zippier in everything I do. I don’t do crazy things on the phones. I twitter and Facebook and tinder a lot, but just opening these apps seemed to take a fraction of a second longer on the Nexus 6. If that were the only issue, then it would be less of a deal breaker than an annoyance, but I felt (at least on my particular phone) that the Nexus – and maybe Lollipop - had stability issues. Every now and then – maybe three times a week – the phone would do something weird which would require a restart to remedy. For instance on the last day I had the phone I was trying to open the phone app which is in my Dock on the very bottom of the screen. However, every time I pressed the app it would open something else that was in my dock instead. So instead of opening the phone, it would open up the messaging app or the email app. It happened like ten times in a row after I would get into the wrong app and press the home button. It required a complete reboot, then it would function normally. It was a weird thing that happened intermittently. However, It required a reboot a few times a week (this is what leads me to believe that maybe I had a defective unit?)
The One Plus, so far, has not had any stability issues (maybe because Kit Kat is much more mature than Lollipop). It is great and feels significantly faster than the Nexus. Everything I want it to do it does on command without hesitation. I think this more than anything else is the reason I decided to keep the One Plus instead of the Nexus, it just feels better to use.
One thing that I did like better about the Nexus (and even my old iphone) was the scrolling ability. The One Plus one just does not have as good scrolling in apps such as facebook or twitter. The Nexus has great sensitivity and response. The One Plus feels like it’s a generation behind with its scrolling capabilities.
I also liked Lollipop over Cyanogen Mod Kit Kat because 5.0 has beautiful themes. Material Design is something that I already miss going to the One Plus and I cant wait for the 5.0 Cyanogen Mod update. The one feature I really miss is lock screen notifications. I had that on my iPhone and on the Nexus, but will have to wait for 5.0 on the One Plus.
Camera:
Another area that was very important to me was the Camera. I am not a professional photographer, but I love taking nice pictures. I am a DSLR guy and used to try to tote mine around whenever I could. However, now that camera phones have gotten so good I have been doing so less and less, just using my phone camera for the majority of my day to day shooting. The iPhone 5 camera was great for me. I used it all the time (for snapchat and Instagram) and loved the low light shooting characteristics.
The Nexus 6 camera was great. It was sharp and I loved that it shot video in 4k, making for great impromptu jam session with my brother. When the light was good the camera produced sharp and vibrant images. It was great for anything I wanted to snapchat or Instagram. and even candid’s that I wanted for later, which I what I usually use my phone camera for. However, lowlight shooting was awful. I couldn’t get lowlight images at all. Living in NYC there are streetlights everywhere, but even in that environment I was not able to get any good nighttime shots that are even useable for snapchat (for which I have very low critera). Even compared to my two year old iPhone, it was awful. The front facing camera was doubly bad. Everything that I took with the front facing 2mp camera was poorly exposed and very soft. There was no definition to the shots and it was very splotchy.
Having the same sensor (but without optical image stabilization) I was not holding out much hope for the One Plus One. However I was pleasantly surprised with its low light shooting capabilities. In places where the Nexus was just unable to get any kind of image (often producing just a black shot with different intensities of light) I was able to get useable shots with the One Plus. The front facing camera is ten times better than the Nexus 6 camera.
Battery Life:
Here is another place that the One Plus pulls away from the Nexus. The battery life on the One Plus is phenomenal. One reason I got rid of my old iphone was that the battery life was down to four hours. I was literally carrying around a charger with me wherever I went because it wouldn’t last half a day. Now the OPO will last me 1.5 days of regular use. For me regular use is about 3.5 hours of screen on time. I will last from 7 am until about noon the next day. This is amazing battery life. I never have to worry about it. With the Nexus I would get about 2.75 hours of screen on time. This translated to a day of use. If I unplugged my phone at 7 am, I would be at 5 percent battery around 10:30 pm. Normally this would be okay, unless I was going out with my friends at night and had to stay out past midnight (which I normally do on weekends). With turbo-charging this was largely a non-issue. However, psychologically I don’t really like plugging in my phone for fifteen minutes and then unplugging when the batter is not full. I hate the feeling that I am ruining the battery (even if that’s not how batteries work anymore…). Personally having a great battery like the One Plus One is a huge win and is one thing I don’t have to worry about. It makes my life less stressful (I understand that this is a side affect of being too dependent on technology and am working to fix this in myself, haha).
Conclusion:
All in all I liked the Nexus 6. It was a good “pocket internet device” however as something that I want to use every day, I was not in love with it. And thus, comes the OPO trump card. Its price. If I was in love with the Nexus I would have had no problem spending $771 on the phone. However, I was not in love with it, so paying that much for a phone I didn’t love was out of the question. Futhremore, the thought of paying more than double the price of the One Plus One ($361) which I liked better was Ludacris. So in the end it was an easy choice.
I tried to like the Nexus 6. I did love the screen and the experience I had while I was watching youtube. I love material design and lock screen notifications. I loved being able to talk to the phone (“OK Google”) when the screen was off. In the end, however, it fell short. The One Plus One is a great phone and I am smitten with it. It offers everything I want for a very low price and that is why I am keeping it.
Sorry for that long rant, and hope some of you stick around to read the whole thing.
Cheers,
CBN
CowboyNick13 said:
Hey Guys,
So here goes my story...
I ordered my One Plus (during the preorder with no Invite) maybe a week after I ordered my Nexus 6 and got the OPO two days before my Nexus arrived. However, at that time I refrained from opening the OPO because I didn't want to lose the resale value of the OPO. In the end the chrome N on the back of the Nexus fell of and I decided to open the OPO to compare the two. I decided to keep the OPO and return the Nexus, below are some of the reasons I made that choice.
I opened the Nexus 6 and was stunned by the phone. Watching the videos and reading reviews you get a sense of the size of the phone, but never having held it before this I was not really sure what to expect. This phone is HUGE. I was stunned by the build quality and the size. I loved the curved edges of the screen and the resolution was amazing. I was okay with the size because it could still fit in my (skinny) jeans pockets, but I was not in love with it. I was originally gunning for the Cloud white, but couldn't get my hands on it. Got the Midnight Blue in 64 gig and ended up loving the color. I loved the color until I touched the back of the phone and realized that my fingerprints got everywhere. Seriously, this phone is a smudge magnet. However, since I am not a fan of cases, this was something I could live with.
Similarly opening the box of the One Plus One I was very impressed. The packaging was very nicely done. I know it does not have any impact on how the phone is used, but it is a very nice presentation that I appreciated none the less. The phone itself has very nice build quality. It does not have as many curves and subtleties as the Nexus, but I like the way it feels in my hand and equals the 6 in quality, even if it is a simpler design.
I used the Nexus 6 for three weeks and am on my sixth day with the One Plus. Here are my impressions of the devices after that period mainly focusing on what stands out during MY use of them.
Ergonomics:
As far as the feel of the Nexus 6 is concerned at first I was worried about how big it was. I was coming from a 4 inch screen of the iPhone 5 and was a bit scared about how it was going to work. After three weeks I was no longer worried about it. I have gotten used to it. However, I was not sold on the 6 inch screen. It was never 100 percent comfortable for me to use and I always had to use two hands. I have hands on the smaller size, but not freakishly small, however I was always scared to use it one handed, even just opening up my twitter feed and scrolling through gave pause because I was afraid to drop it and crack that beautiful screen. One thing that I found particularly difficult was texting. If I were in bed with the phone above my head, it was so hard to text because the screen was so wide. My fingers did not have enough range of motion to hold the phone in a secure way and also reach the outer edges of the screen to reach letters such as A or L, O and P. It was a weird experience that I remedied by installing the Swype keyboard app and condensed the keyboard to one side of the screen.
Using the One Plus One immediately felt more comfortable. It seems to fit my hand better and I am a huge fan of the “sandstone” texture of the back. I can use it more easily with one hand and am able to text using one hand as well.
Screen and Media Viewing Experience:
As for that Nexus 6 screen. What can I say. It is beautiful. The colors are great and its sharp as a tack. I loved watching videos on it and reading kindle books on it. It was noticeably sharper than the OPO's 1080p screen. It's not a day and night difference, and if the two weren't sitting next to each other on the table, I probably would not have noticed anything. But when the two phones are next to each other you can tell which one has a higher resolution display. I used the Nexus to watch a lot of youtube videos and loved the experience. With the front firing speakers, this was a great media consumption device. I loved being able to use this instead of my computer or tablet to watch videos and read books or news articles. Six inches was a great size to view everything on.
The One Plus One also has a great screen. The colors are accurate and it is very pleasing to look at. I can watch youtube videos here also, however the overall experience is not as nice because the speakers are not forward firing. Though they have great volume, the speakers are not as good to use as the Nexus simply because of their orientation. With this phone I am more predisposed to watch videos on my tablet or TV. Reading is a very similar experience and I have no problem reading for more than an hour on either device.
Usability:
This section is where the One Plus really starts to pull away. For those who don’t remember the specs (lets be real though, I’m just putting them here so we can all revel at the fact that both of these phones have more power than my current work computer) the Nexus 6 sports the new quad-core Snapdragon 805 clocked at 2.7 GHz with 3 gigs of ram while the One Plus One has the one generation older quad-core 801 chip clocked at 2.5 GHz with the same amount of ram. For reference my “vintage” 2012 Macbook Air has a 2GHz i5 intel chip with 4 gigs of ram.
I don’t know if I had a bad Nexus (or a spectacularly good One Plus), but it always felt like the Nexus was taking a tenth of a second more to think about the things it wanted to do. The One Plus, on the other hand feels zippier in everything I do. I don’t do crazy things on the phones. I twitter and Facebook and tinder a lot, but just opening these apps seemed to take a fraction of a second longer on the Nexus 6. If that were the only issue, then it would be less of a deal breaker than an annoyance, but I felt (at least on my particular phone) that the Nexus – and maybe Lollipop - had stability issues. Every now and then – maybe three times a week – the phone would do something weird which would require a restart to remedy. For instance on the last day I had the phone I was trying to open the phone app which is in my Dock on the very bottom of the screen. However, every time I pressed the app it would open something else that was in my dock instead. So instead of opening the phone, it would open up the messaging app or the email app. It happened like ten times in a row after I would get into the wrong app and press the home button. It required a complete reboot, then it would function normally. It was a weird thing that happened intermittently. However, It required a reboot a few times a week (this is what leads me to believe that maybe I had a defective unit?)
The One Plus, so far, has not had any stability issues (maybe because Kit Kat is much more mature than Lollipop). It is great and feels significantly faster than the Nexus. Everything I want it to do it does on command without hesitation. I think this more than anything else is the reason I decided to keep the One Plus instead of the Nexus, it just feels better to use.
One thing that I did like better about the Nexus (and even my old iphone) was the scrolling ability. The One Plus one just does not have as good scrolling in apps such as facebook or twitter. The Nexus has great sensitivity and response. The One Plus feels like it’s a generation behind with its scrolling capabilities.
I also liked Lollipop over Cyanogen Mod Kit Kat because 5.0 has beautiful themes. Material Design is something that I already miss going to the One Plus and I cant wait for the 5.0 Cyanogen Mod update. The one feature I really miss is lock screen notifications. I had that on my iPhone and on the Nexus, but will have to wait for 5.0 on the One Plus.
Camera:
Another area that was very important to me was the Camera. I am not a professional photographer, but I love taking nice pictures. I am a DSLR guy and used to try to tote mine around whenever I could. However, now that camera phones have gotten so good I have been doing so less and less, just using my phone camera for the majority of my day to day shooting. The iPhone 5 camera was great for me. I used it all the time (for snapchat and Instagram) and loved the low light shooting characteristics.
The Nexus 6 camera was great. It was sharp and I loved that it shot video in 4k, making for great impromptu jam session with my brother. When the light was good the camera produced sharp and vibrant images. It was great for anything I wanted to snapchat or Instagram. and even candid’s that I wanted for later, which I what I usually use my phone camera for. However, lowlight shooting was awful. I couldn’t get lowlight images at all. Living in NYC there are streetlights everywhere, but even in that environment I was not able to get any good nighttime shots that are even useable for snapchat (for which I have very low critera). Even compared to my two year old iPhone, it was awful. The front facing camera was doubly bad. Everything that I took with the front facing 2mp camera was poorly exposed and very soft. There was no definition to the shots and it was very splotchy.
Having the same sensor (but without optical image stabilization) I was not holding out much hope for the One Plus One. However I was pleasantly surprised with its low light shooting capabilities. In places where the Nexus was just unable to get any kind of image (often producing just a black shot with different intensities of light) I was able to get useable shots with the One Plus. The front facing camera is ten times better than the Nexus 6 camera.
Battery Life:
Here is another place that the One Plus pulls away from the Nexus. The battery life on the One Plus is phenomenal. One reason I got rid of my old iphone was that the battery life was down to four hours. I was literally carrying around a charger with me wherever I went because it wouldn’t last half a day. Now the OPO will last me 1.5 days of regular use. For me regular use is about 3.5 hours of screen on time. I will last from 7 am until about noon the next day. This is amazing battery life. I never have to worry about it. With the Nexus I would get about 2.75 hours of screen on time. This translated to a day of use. If I unplugged my phone at 7 am, I would be at 5 percent battery around 10:30 pm. Normally this would be okay, unless I was going out with my friends at night and had to stay out past midnight (which I normally do on weekends). With turbo-charging this was largely a non-issue. However, psychologically I don’t really like plugging in my phone for fifteen minutes and then unplugging when the batter is not full. I hate the feeling that I am ruining the battery (even if that’s not how batteries work anymore…). Personally having a great battery like the One Plus One is a huge win and is one thing I don’t have to worry about. It makes my life less stressful (I understand that this is a side affect of being too dependent on technology and am working to fix this in myself, haha).
Conclusion:
All in all I liked the Nexus 6. It was a good “pocket internet device” however as something that I want to use every day, I was not in love with it. And thus, comes the OPO trump card. Its price. If I was in love with the Nexus I would have had no problem spending $771 on the phone. However, I was not in love with it, so paying that much for a phone I didn’t love was out of the question. Futhremore, the thought of paying more than double the price of the One Plus One ($361) which I liked better was Ludacris. So in the end it was an easy choice.
I tried to like the Nexus 6. I did love the screen and the experience I had while I was watching youtube. I love material design and lock screen notifications. I loved being able to talk to the phone (“OK Google”) when the screen was off. In the end, however, it fell short. The One Plus One is a great phone and I am smitten with it. It offers everything I want for a very low price and that is why I am keeping it.
Sorry for that long rant, and hope some of you stick around to read the whole thing.
Cheers,
CBN
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Very informative, thanks!
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There seems to be plenty of people moaning about what they don't like, there is a Note 4 Let Down Thread, so I wanna read some positive comments about what we DO like about the Note 4 in General, it doesn't matter which model you got, but if you feel happy about it please share your positive thoughts.
-Personally I Like the style of the phone.
-I also like the fact that its made from metal (well most of it) except the battery door which comes always in handy and its another pro about this phone, the access to the battery and micro sd card.
-Of course it runs on Android which I love.
-I like the screen which is amazing
-I like the camera, both, the front camera and rear camera.
-I like the S-pen and yes I use it everyday when I go to the gym, I keep track of my workouts, weights, reps, all in one place, I have a phone, a music player, a great camera shooter, and a notebook, and we all must thank Samsung for this, if not go back and read about what people though about the first Note device.
-I like the fact we still have the LED for notifications, which a lot of manufactures still forgetting about it.
-I like the battery life, yes I know, I have read about all the complains, but its not in my case, yes I have 90% of Samsung bloatware turned off, I just use what I like and what I need.
- I like how easily I can access a hard drive or any external storage via OTG.
-I like the IR Blaster, which not a lot of devices have it, and they should.
-I like the S Health app, and yes, i use the heart rate monitor, im into fitness, and yes this app help me track all my workouts, ive even improve in my diets.
Of course there are plenty of stuff I just forgot right now, but I hope you guys help me to remember them by commenting your positive thoughts and everything you like and what makes you feel good and special about the Note 4,
IF YOU WANT TO COMMENT COMPLAINS AND NEGATIVE COMMENTS PLEASE SEARCH AROUND THERE ARE PLENTY OF THREADS, NOT HERE, THANKS
I love my note 4. I like it's size, the display is beautiful, the battery life is far better than my note 2. It has more space. I like the way it feels in my hand. I paid cash for it so I don't owe tmobile a dime lol...
Overall I love my note 4 and I'm extremely happy with my purchase. I don't have any complaints and I haven't at all since I've had it
It's a hulk, which for my Neanderthal-esque hands helps out a ton.
The screen is gorgeous
The camera is top notch and helps me, who happens to be one of the worst picture takers of all time, take good pics.
I use S-Note in my meetings every day.
Build wise it feels great in the hand without a case.
Eventually I can pick up an additional battery pack.
One day it will get an update that stops the ferocious lag lollipop has at times.
Dat screen doe.
Overall, 9/10
It's better than my previous iPhone 6
ixon2001 said:
It's better than my previous iPhone 6
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Comment your reasons...cheers:fingers-crossed:
I've only had my Note 4 since 4/30 but I've yet to find anything that I don't like.. Running stock 5.0.1 using the TouchWiz launcher, and only have the Google apps that don't have a Samsung equivalent enabled! Love this thing!!
mistah_mumford said:
I've only had my Note 4 since 4/30 but I've yet to find anything that I don't like.. Running stock 5.0.1 using the TouchWiz launcher, and only have the Google apps that don't have a Samsung equivalent enabled! Love this thing!!
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Please post everything you like specifically, everything you use, thanks, cheers:fingers-crossed:
I like the battery, the screen size and that is Amoled, Touchwiz features, and that it fits ok in my hand because it's thin. Also I like Samsung is okish with software updates compared to other manufacturers.
Everything the OP said, plus now that we're on Lollipop I can use my MicroSD card properly again with Solid Explorer and other properly updated apps (without rooting). Also like the battery life, regularly 20-30% left at the end of the day with normal usage. Finally, I'm on the N910C with the Wolfson DAC which is giving great sound paired with my Sennheisers - so much so that I just sold my trusty old Sony Walkman on eBay! The sound with PowerAmp, to my ears, was as good if not better. Best smartphone I've owned to date by a long shot. Oh... and the IR, getting that set up now
Forgot that it's also my remote control for every room I visit. I watch whatever I want at the bar now
Best phone ever, I like every single thing about it! It's such a powerful, flexible, customisable phone that can do it all, looks and feels great and I never have to worry about the battery before the end of the day!
Like the metal, is gorgeous to hold. Love that battery and Sim are accessible - wish for nicer back cover though, or at least a larger selection.
Multitasking is fabulous, very effective.
Excellent screen!
Stylus.
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best phone ever
It's the best phone I've ever had hands down, I like the way it feels in the hand, I use a case during the day, but I can't wait to get home to take the case off. That shiny metal rim is the best.
I use public transportation to get to work, and I have caught people reading the news with me.....That screen is just awesome. I have even downloaded 4k videos just for show.
And dont get me started on the stylus.... How did I ever get by without it?! I use it at work to jot down orders, phone numbers, reminders...
The camera experience has probably impressed me the most: from the responsiveness of the camera app to the quality of the photos and videos and finally viewing them on that gorgeous 5.7 inch screen.
Overall since I prefer the 5.7 screen size and like the S-pen features I think the Note 4 is still the best smartphone and will remain so till the Note 5.
Note 4 has been the best phone I've owned bar none.
I just wished there was a way to get updates and not rely on the carrier.
I have an att phone. The only way I can get updates is to borrow an att chip and then I can update my rom.
Totally sucks since I'm on another carrier.
Anyways, enjoying the note 4 experience thus far.
Camera the best.
Lollipop over all is a great experience on the note 4
before i was going to buy a new mobbile i was looking for good looking phone, excellent outdoor brightness, great camera ... developers support good audio ..... big screen..... so i got xperia z3 with big screen compromise but it was way better looking and water and dust proof and front firing speakers and very slim ..... after buying i regretted because there was abbsolutely no developers support..... almost negligible ...so then i got note 4 ....i like it alot ... becauser .. back cover is removable ...... amoled screen ..... super bright ..... developers support is good.... but touchwiz is bad and on aosp roms brightness is very low....
z3 over note 4- had better sound of speakers, better looking, battery life way better , very thin
note 4 over z3- has better brightness , better developer support, back cover removable...i put a leather one on the back ... battery removable, camera is better, screen is bigger. its an amoled which i love because of deep blacks and saturated colors. i love popping colors , the best thing is fast charging.
Hmmm, where do I start?
-That screen is unbelievably good. Bright, vibrant, and there's no way you'd notice the subpixels without a VR headset. Makes me wish we had AMOLED PC monitors on the market already.
-None of that screen space is wasted with onscreen buttons, either! As much as people complain about the physical Home button and all, I actually prefer it and wish the other two buttons were physical like the S Active/Sport line.
-Wacom digitizer support in OneNote and Clover Paint is excellent. The Note 4 even boasts tilt sensitivity!
-I wasn't expecting Gear VR to be immersive due to the obvious performance limitations the Note 4 has compared to a gaming PC, but it's actually astounding how it keeps up with my head movements. Cardboard apps aren't even close, they're a blurred mess by comparison.
-I shouldn't have to bring up microSD card slots of all things as a selling point against the competition, but that's what it's come down to after the S6. They're great for mass media storage and Nandroid backups, since you don't want those backups taking your internal storage space! Too much risk of getting wiped if you're a flashaholic.
-Batteries that can be removed without a heat gun also shouldn't have to be a selling point, but are now. The battery life's plenty for my purposes, but if that's not enough, I can just pop in a second battery or install an extended battery! Phone freezes up or gets wet? Pop that battery! Cells degrade to the point of uselessness after a few years (and they will)? Swap 'em out for some newly-manufactured ones instead of paying some service center to get the dead weight outta your phone!
-Adaptive Fast Charge/Quick Charge 2.0 has spoiled me rotten now. Dead battery to a usable charge in just 30 minutes, near-full charge in an hour? I don't even have to leave the Note 4 on the charger overnight now!
-Sprint doesn't lock the bootloader, so rooting's easy if you don't mind a tripped Knox bit. I don't.
-The camera's good enough, as long as I never have to zoom in.
Thus far, there isn't any other phone on the market I'd rather own, and I'll be more than happy to keep the Note 4 for another two years! All I hope for is that the next two Note generations don't throw out microSD slots and removable batteries like the S6 did, otherwise I might be using that Note 4 longer than anticipated.
I have two things that really make a difference for me and those are the great battery life and finally being able to work from my phone. I get sent contacts and I can edit and sign them on n the phone. There is no need to involve my laptop anymore. This makes commutes by train really productive.
Note 4 on KK is fantastic. Very fast, lots of storage, excellent screen, fabulous battery, glorious smooth glass, the hard metal body feels great, one handed use (just) and it's magnificent S-Pen.
There is just nothing like this phone. I wish Samsung didn't make is users feel second best. I've been messing around with the S6s.... After a while I came running, RUNNING back to my Note 4.
I'm so sorry baby. I'll never let you go again.
*smooch*
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1 - Display
2 - Performance
3 - Sound through earphones
4 - Camera
5 - Build quality
6 - Support (from people here)
7 - Storage
8 - Physical buttons (hate onscreen waste of space)
9 - Removable battery
10 - Its beauty
So I got my OP3 around a week ago now and at first, I loved it. It was by far the fastest Android phone I had used (even compared to the 6P)
However, fast does not always mean smooth. Sure, it opened apps fast, but the animations in the UI were very stuttery and janky and were horrible to watch a lot of the time. So I took to XDA with my issue and was told that a factory reset would 100% fix this, so I reset the phone... and for probably 24 hours, the phone was smooth again - hoorah! And then the stuttering slowly crept back in, the keyboard (google keyboard) was slow and froze a few times. My overall impression of the performace of the phone would be that it is fast, but compared to the smoothness of the Nexus 6P, it is below par.
The build quality is pretty good, my only issue being a very wobbly and loose volume button, but other than that, it is just as good as any iPhone or high end phone.
The screen... In short, if you are coming from a 1440p phone, you will notice the difference. Anyone that says they can't frankly needs an eye test. The colours are almost neon compared to AMOLED panels on high end Samsung's (some may like this, I didn't mind it). It gets fairly bright, not as bright as most other flagship phones though. The viewing angels are odd, tilt it one way and the display turns purple, tilt it the other way and it turns blue, slightly annoying.
The headphone jack is on par with the iPhone, which is saying a lot in my opinion. The speakers are absolute trash. Do not expect anything like the quality of the Nexus 6P or the Moto X Pure edition.
The DASH charging feature has got to be the best feature of the phone, it is as good as everyone says it is. The phone can fully charge from 0% in about 70 minutes in my testing, which is far, far faster than the Nexus 6P or any other phone I own.
The battery life is also very good, it outlasts the 6P in my experience and the standby time is also better too (dropping around 0.75% an hour compared to 1-2% an hour drain on the 6P).
The fingerprint scanner is blazingly fast, when it wants to work. I'd say 75% of the time it worked, the rest of the time it did not. I'm sure some smart guy will say that it is centrally positioned and you need to press the centre. I am aware of this and it made no difference, even after adding the same finger 5 times.
The camera is... so-so. It takes acceptable pictures is absolute perfect lighting conditions, but anything less than that and the pictures will look grainy and fuzzy. In low light, you may as well be using an iPhone 3G (I really mean that). Camera fanatics will want to avoid this phone like the plague
The real downfall of this phone for me and the reason I have no other option but to return it, is that the WiFi and cellular reception (at least for me) is worse than any device I have ever used. My iPhone 5s gets 4G pretty much everywhere at maximum speeds, whereas the OP3 managed to get 4G probably 5% of the time and at much lower speeds. The WiFi is terrible, getting around 1-2 MB/S download speed compared to 10-15mb/s on my iPhone 5s. (my internet is usually slow anyway, but the OP3 took it to a new level) This resulted in the almost 3 year old iPhone loading any form of webpage, video or audio significantly faster than the OP3.
To conclude, if you are seriously considering the OnePlus 3, lower your overall expectations. Remember that it is a cheap phone, and it is cheap for a reason. OnePlus had to cut corners somewhere and the WiFi and cellular reception, sadly is where they took a hit. The only advice I can give is that you do have a 15 day return period, so by all means try the phone and if you have a similar experience as me, you can ditch it.
I know a lot of you will hate on this post as you love the OP3 and can't bear the thought of someone saying anything bad about it. I'm not saying it is a bad phone, I think that overall, it's good, but it is not flawless by any means.
I hope this helps at least someone! I will answer any questions if I can.
I don't know what lag or smoothness issues you are talking about but that is your experience and opinion so it doesn't matter to others as long as their phone is super smooth. Since you used the Nexus 6P too though, do you mind posting here a long review for the Nexus 6P as well. I am curious to see how objective you are ?
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I don't know what lag or smoothness issues you are talking about but that is your experience and opinion so it doesn't matter to others as long as their phone is super smooth. Since you used the Nexus 6P too though, do you mind posting here a long review for the Nexus 6P as well. I am curious to see how objective you are
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If that is a serious request, then I guess so?
It sucks that I had issues with my device, I really wanted to keep the phone.
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If that is a serious request, then I guess so?
It sucks that I had issues with my device, I really wanted to keep the phone.
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Yes it is. I have both phones and have had slightly different experiences from you. I look forward to your post about yhe Nexus 6P.
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Yes it is. I have both phones and have had slightly different experiences from you. I look forward to your post about yhe Nexus 6P.
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Would you like me to post it in the same section of the Nexus 6P forums?
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Would you like me to post it in the same section of the Nexus 6P forums?
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You can post it here since this is your thread and you already compare it vs the Nexus 6P so it shouldn't be a problem.
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For those interested in my experience with the Nexus 6P (since I mentioned it a fair bit in my OP3 review) this is how I feel about it.
The 6P, in short, was my favourite Android experience. It was not the fastest phone available, the OP3 is faster. However, it was smoother than the OP3 (I focus on animations and transitions when I say this) Never once did the 6P drop a frame in the general UI of the phone, which is not something I can say for the OP3.
The screen of the 6P is superior to the OP3 as is it brighter (only just) the resolution is noticeably better and the colours were more accurate. However, every single 6P I went through (I had a total of 4 before I eventually gave up) had display issues, most of which were to do with colour banding. The build quality of the 6P is absolutely no where near that of the OP3, 2 of my devices arrived slightly bent, all of them but one had mushy buttons, they all came with some degree of scratching as well. I also noticed that the display was not fully flat on any of the devices I had, this was evident when looking at a reflection on the screen, it appeared very warped.
The headphone jack was the reason I ended up ditching the 6P. Each of my devices, without fail, had an audible hissing or white noise sound at below 50% volume. Most people said I was just unlucky, but for each of them to have this issue... I don't think so. (Yes I tried many pairs of headphones) The speakers are the best I've tried, by far. They are far superior to the tinny, horrible speaker on the OP3.
The camera is a lot better on the 6P too, it produced some fantastic shots, compared to the average - below par photos taken on the OP3.
Battery life was mostly similar, but the OP3 has the edge here. However, I had the 6P for a lot longer than the OP3, so I can't say for sure how it would perform over time compared to the 6P!
Wifi and cellular reception on the 6P was far, far greater than that of the OP3, I never had any issues with my 6P whereas my OP3 gave me constant grief.
This mostly sounds like the OP3 is fairly evenly matched with the 6P, but even having all of the issues that I had with my 6P, I would still choose it over the OP3 100% of the time. It was a more enjoyable and fluid experience that I can't fully explain.
So far, nothing quite compares to Nexus in my experience.
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For those interested in my experience with the Nexus 6P (since I mentioned it a fair bit in my OP3 review) this is how I feel about it.
The 6P, in short, was my favourite Android experience. It was not the fastest phone available, the OP3 is faster. However, it was smoother than the OP3 (I focus on animations and transitions when I say this) Never once did the 6P drop a frame in the general UI of the phone, which is not something I can say for the OP3.
The screen of the 6P is superior to the OP3 as is it brighter (only just) the resolution is noticeably better and the colours were more accurate. However, every single 6P I went through (I had a total of 4 before I eventually gave up) had display issues, most of which were to do with colour banding. The build quality of the 6P is absolutely no where near that of the OP3, 2 of my devices arrived slightly bent, all of them but one had mushy buttons, they all came with some degree of scratching as well. I also noticed that the display was not fully flat on any of the devices I had, this was evident when looking at a reflection on the screen, it appeared very warped.
The headphone jack was the reason I ended up ditching the 6P. Each of my devices, without fail, had an audible hissing or white noise sound at below 50% volume. Most people said I was just unlucky, but for each of them to have this issue... I don't think so. (Yes I tried many pairs of headphones) The speakers are the best I've tried, by far. They are far superior to the tinny, horrible speaker on the OP3.
The camera is a lot better on the 6P too, it produced some fantastic shots, compared to the average - below par photos taken on the OP3.
Battery life was mostly similar, but the OP3 has the edge here. However, I had the 6P for a lot longer than the OP3, so I can't say for sure how it would perform over time compared to the 6P!
Wifi and cellular reception on the 6P was far, far greater than that of the OP3, I never had any issues with my 6P whereas my OP3 gave me constant grief.
This mostly sounds like the OP3 is fairly evenly matched with the 6P, but even having all of the issues that I had with my 6P, I would still choose it over the OP3 100% of the time. It was a more enjoyable and fluid experience that I can't fully explain.
So far, nothing quite compares to Nexus in my experience.
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Did you happen to notice how slow the camera app on the Nexus 6P is? Also you mention that you replaced the Nexus 6P 4 times. Did you ever try to replace your OP3? Your unit sounds faulty or you probably used it with a custom rom that had bugs. Reception has been fine for me but I see other people complain about it. When you say that camera is below average, what do you mean or how do you compare it vs the Nexus 6P?
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brickedvice said:
Did you happen to notice how slow the camera app on the Nexus 6P is? Also you mention that you replaced the Nexus 6P 4 times. Did you ever try to replace your OP3? Your unit sounds faulty or you probably used it with a custom rom that had bugs. Reception has been fine for me but I see other people complain about it. When you say that camera is below average, what do you mean or how do you compare it vs the Nexus 6P?
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The camera app on the 6P was slow, yes. It was a lot faster on the OP3. I never ran a custom rom on my OP3. I am sick of having to replace phones over and over, which is why I chose to just return it and not replace it.
The camera of the OP3 is not comparable to the 6P, the 6P is far better (to my eye). The camera on the OP3 has a lot of noise in the photos and also mostly seems blurry.
I wasn't impressed with the OP3 camera, let's put it that way.
Not every phone I've had lately can be faulty, people seem to use that as an excuse for any issue I've noticed.
I do want to stress that other than the few issues I encountered with the OP3, I really wanted to keep it because it could have been almost perfect. But I couldn't make the sacrifice on those key areas.
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I do want to stress that other than the few issues I encountered with the OP3, I really wanted to keep it because it could have been almost perfect. But I couldn't make the sacrifice on those key areas.
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That's fine. I think customers shouldn't have to make any sacrifices when they pay for a product. Get the iPhone 7 when it comes out. Apple uses simplistic devices that work out of the box and camera never fails to disappoint. Also their displays are the best when it comes to color accuracy and brightness. Battery life is great too. As far as the OP3 goes I agree with you that the display is average at best and you can easily notice the pixels. I have been satisfied with the camera and battery life so far (although I think they should have put a bigger battery to compensate that camera bump). This is the fastest phome I have used and I have used pretty much all the flagship devices in the last years. You could have tried to change animation speed and see if that could make the animations smooth as you like them on the Nexus 6P. To me they seem fine though. People say that for $400 this phone is the best, but I don't think that should be mentioned when we review the device. Will see what Note 7, iPhone 7 and Nexus 7 bring on the table
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That's fine. I think customers shouldn't have to make any sacrifices when they pay for a product. Get the iPhone 7 when it comes out. Apple uses simplistic devices that work out of the box and camera never fails to disappoint. Also their displays are the best when it comes to color accuracy and brightness. Battery life is great too. As far as the OP3 goes I agree with you that the display is average at best and you can easily notice the pixels. I have been satisfied with the camera and battery life so far (although I think they should have put a bigger battery to compensate that camera bump). This is the fastest phome I have used and I have used pretty much all the flagship devices in the last years. You could have tried to change animation speed and see if that could make the animations smooth as you like them on the Nexus 6P. To me they seem fine though. People say that for $400 this phone is the best, but I don't think that should be mentioned when we review the device. Will see what Note 7, iPhone 7 and Nexus 7 bring on the table
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I couldn't agree more, the price shouldn't matter when reviewing it. I think I'm going to get the next iPhone when it is released as I am a bit tired of small, yet annoying issues with the android devices that I have used. It's a sad moment for me to decide that, but I think it'll be better for me in the long run.
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I couldn't agree more, the price shouldn't matter when reviewing it. I think I'm going to get the next iPhone when it is released as I am a bit tired of small, yet annoying issues with the android devices that I have used. It's a sad moment for me to decide that, but I think it'll be better for me in the long run.
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It is not easy to transition to iPhone if you are used with Android ecosystem. Apple definitly got its **** together. And there are no new phones coming out every 2 months. It is just 1 iPhone every year.
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I wanted to chime in this topic as I've had a nexus 6p since November and I just got the one plus three on Wed.
I terms of the nexus 6p. My unit was perfect. No display issues at all, no bending, no audio problems. Still in perfect shape even now.
The main problem I had with the nexus 6p was performance. The phone would run great after a reboot, but it would get progressively slower and laggier as time went on. I would have to reboot the phone every couple of days to keep it running quickly. Also, because it has the snapdragon 810, I would notice significant lag when the phone heated up and the cores would start turning off. This wasn't even while playing games, the phone would start thermal throttling just by using chrome. Its well known that the snapdragon 810 isn't a great SOC, even though the nexus 6p is probably the best implementation of it.
Also, when I first bought the phone, I was getting pretty good battery life, 5+ hours of SOT, now it has gotten pretty bad and I'm only getting about 4 hours of SOT.
I'm surprised that people are complaining about the 1080p display on the one plus three. In my eyes, comparing the n6p and the one plus three, I can barely tell the difference between the two screens. They are both super sharp. The only difference is that the white balance is tuned differently. The one plus three has a more bluish cooler white balance, while the n6p has a warmer yellowish white balance. i'm sure in a couple of weeks/months, there will be custom kernels for the one plus three that will let you tweak the display colors. I find it funny that when the n6p came out, people were complaining that the screen was too warm. Now people are complaining that the one plus three is too cool. People love to complain about anything.
In terms of performance on the one plus three, I've had no issues at all with lag and slowdown. I've had the phone running without a reboot for over 3 days and its still just as smooth and fast as the day I got it. Its much better than the nexus 6p in that regard.
Also, battery life on the one plus three is great. I'm consistently getting over 6+ hours of SOT.
I've also not experienced any of the wifi or LTE issues.
I'm not a big camera person, so either phone is good enough for me.
My biggest gripe with the one plus three is that the adaptive brightness is slow and doesn't work very well. Other than that, the one plus three has replaced my nexus 6p as my daily driver. I love the performance and the battery life.
I'm glad you've had no issues!
Here's hoping it stays that way!
I returned my 1+3 too. I was not compleatly sure to give it back but there were some issues that me me feel not compleatly happy:
-It warms up too much easy in my opinion. Browsing, looking picture in google foto, watching movies in streming , etc...
-it becames hot in playing games
-"fingerprint in the pocket" issue that obliged me to disable fingerprint scan
-in call audio not very good. Voice is not very clear and natural, both parts.
-adaptive display not very fast and, in some situations, became too dark to oblige me to switch in manual mode and make it brighter
-getting hot during dash charge.
-sometimes switching from normal mode to "not disturb" mode with no reason, even if the slide was in normal position
Now that i returned it back.... i don't know what to do......
For other aspects i was very happy with oneplus3 : battery, charging time, dual sim, responsiveness, display, building quality, etc.....
Even with these problems, i cannot see any other phone that fits my needs. S7 edge is the best but too costly.
I'm thinking to buy 1+3 again hoping that mine was faulty. But...still I have not decided. I'll let you know.
I hear you OP, the OP3 isn't perfect (by far), but I like it...
Looks like elemental x kernel released an update with color control.
That's one problem down.
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I returned my 1+3 too. I was not compleatly sure to give it back but there were some issues that me me feel not compleatly happy:
-It warms up too much easy in my opinion. Browsing, looking picture in google foto, watching movies in streming , etc...
-it becames hot in playing games
-"fingerprint in the pocket" issue that obliged me to disable fingerprint scan
-in call audio not very good. Voice is not very clear and natural, both parts.
-adaptive display not very fast and, in some situations, became too dark to oblige me to switch in manual mode and make it brighter
-getting hot during dash charge.
-sometimes switching from normal mode to "not disturb" mode with no reason, even if the slide was in normal position
Now that i returned it back.... i don't know what to do......
For other aspects i was very happy with oneplus3 : battery, charging time, dual sim, responsiveness, display, building quality, etc.....
Even with these problems, i cannot see any other phone that fits my needs. S7 edge is the best but too costly.
I'm thinking to buy 1+3 again hoping that mine was faulty. But...still I have not decided. I'll let you know.
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Buy OP3!! :highfive:
enzooliva said:
I returned my 1+3 too. I was not compleatly sure to give it back but there were some issues that me me feel not compleatly happy:
-It warms up too much easy in my opinion. Browsing, looking picture in google foto, watching movies in streming , etc...
-it becames hot in playing games
-"fingerprint in the pocket" issue that obliged me to disable fingerprint scan
-in call audio not very good. Voice is not very clear and natural, both parts.
-adaptive display not very fast and, in some situations, became too dark to oblige me to switch in manual mode and make it brighter
-getting hot during dash charge.
-sometimes switching from normal mode to "not disturb" mode with no reason, even if the slide was in normal position
Now that i returned it back.... i don't know what to do......
For other aspects i was very happy with oneplus3 : battery, charging time, dual sim, responsiveness, display, building quality, etc.....
Even with these problems, i cannot see any other phone that fits my needs. S7 edge is the best but too costly.
I'm thinking to buy 1+3 again hoping that mine was faulty. But...still I have not decided. I'll let you know.
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What phone have you used before?
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