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From Android Central: "Updates, patches, and bug fixes are included in version VS910ZVB."
I don't have enough posts yet to link, so replace the " [dot] ":
androidcentral [dot] com/lg-revolution-gets-bloat-removing-ota-update
I have remove clock work so I can get the update. Been so long since I connected my phone to my pc to this, I will have to start from scratch. Time to search for all the how to's in here.
Haxcid said:
I have remove clock work so I can get the update. Been so long since I connected my phone to my pc to this, I will have to start from scratch. Time to search for all the how to's in here.
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I'm rooted but without CWM (still have stock recovery). Can I simply defrost (freezing is all I've done) and get the update? Or do I have to do a hard reset to get back to full stock?
If hard reset to stock is required, any tips or techniques that you use to save time to get back to where you were? Thx.
Well I am updated and while I notice that all the extra Verizon apps are gone here is what I see...
1. Kindle, bing, slacker, tunewiki, and Verizon tones are all still installed and no option to remove them.
2, After I installed a dozen apps of my own, I still have 1gig of app space available.
3. The phone is remarkable faster and smoother.
I am going to see if they fixed the Exchange email client issue I was having...
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Well I am updated and while I notice that all the extra Verizon apps are gone here is what I see...
1. Kindle, bing, slacker, tunewiki, and Verizon tones are all still installed and no option to remove them.
2, After I installed a dozen apps of my own, I still have 1gig of app space available.
3. The phone is remarkable faster and smoother.
I am going to see if they fixed the Exchange email client issue I was having...
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Did you need to unroot? If yes how did you do it?
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Mendel
mmp17 said:
Did you need to unroot? If yes how did you do it?
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Rooted should be ok, you may likely lose your root. It does not install with clockwork. I used lgnpst and imaged my phone, I then did a factory reset, felt like starting from scratch.
Verizon only removed a handful of apps. I am not sure it was worth the trouble. I have to root again so I can go back in and freeze or uninstall all the crap they left.
Id say in the de-bloat department they were a epic fail.
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Rooted should be ok, you may likely lose your root. It does not install with clockwork. I used lgnpst and imaged my phone, I then did a factory reset, felt like starting from scratch.
Verizon only removed a handful of apps. I am not sure it was worth the trouble. I have to root again so I can go back in and freeze or uninstall all the crap they left.
Id say in the de-bloat department they were a epic fail.
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I tried to do the update and it fails. I unrooted and it still failed if it is not worth it I'll leave it as it is. let us know if this update can be rooted.
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Mendel
mmp17 said:
I tried to do the update and it fails. I unrooted and it still failed if it is not worth it I'll leave it as it is. let us know if this update can be rooted.
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Mendel
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yeah I returned my phone to stock with the lg tool and tot file, then did a factory reset, updated, rooted again, used titanium back up to uninstall the rest of the bloat Verizon missed.
While I do not know if the update breaks root or not, you can use the root tool in the dev section (esteem root v2) to root your phone. It works like a charm.
So was anything else updated? Trying to decide if it's worth my time to bother with. I am already running a zv9 that I seriously debloated and tweaked to where it's useable.
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me too. I am running zv9 with root. And uninstalled lots of useless apps for me. I tried update, but failed.
wslguy said:
So was anything else updated? Trying to decide if it's worth my time to bother with. I am already running a zv9 that I seriously debloated and tweaked to where it's useable.
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It will rebloat your phone. While they did patch some things, my phone did actually run smoother. I did have to root it again and un-install all the bloat they left, vzw tones, navigator, city id, kindle, slacker, etc...
No better battery life and not much of a performance increase. Id wait if you are happy.
keeps trying to update
I was planning on rooting & putting BrokenOut ROM on my revo when my contract ended. Then this OTA update came out, and I was worried that it would prevent that. So, I rooted the phone and put CWM recovery on and did a backup. As expected, the OTA update failed.
But, it hasn't given up. It tries and tries, about once a day. I hear my phone chirp, and it has rebooted and drained the battery, and shows at various times either the "update failed" screen, or the "updating in 2 minutes" screen, or recovery. When I get prompted to run the update, I defer it - but the deferal time doesn't correspond to when the reboot happens.
It's possible that the rooting and recovery are behind the problem, and not the update - but I suspect the update has something to do with it.
So, what I'd like to know is:
1) if I get the update, can I still use ROM Manager to change the recovery back to CWM, and still be able to flash BO on it?
2) to get the update, is it safe to just use ROM Manager to put the stock recovery on it, then run the update? I haven't done any debloating or other rooty stuff not mentioned above. I'd rather not lose data by reset, tot, etc.
3) can I fix my problem without getting the update? Maybe one of the options on the "update failed" screen? I'm not sure if I've selected only "OK" or only "Cancel" so far - or what those are supposed to mean.
4) do the security updates make zvb better than BO? (Does anyone here no what the security updates are?)
Thanks...
Broken out is based off of V9, so unless there are updates to the radio, you will most likely over-write most, if not all, of the updates.
As posted earlier, someone has rooted and installed cwm. But, someone wants to post up the update (you can rip it from the /data/local/tmp directory, iirc) I will try my best to update BO. Also, if someone can do a backup of the new update and post it up, (not the blob crap, the other one ) I'll rip the kernel and post a flashable zip. Maybe they did fix something. We will see.
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Broken out is based off of V9, so unless there are updates to the radio, you will most likely over-write most, if not all, of the updates.
As posted earlier, someone has rooted and installed cwm. But, someone wants to post up the update (you can rip it from the /data/local/tmp directory, iirc) I will try my best to update BO. Also, if someone can do a backup of the new update and post it up, (not the blob crap, the other one ) I'll rip the kernel and post a flashable zip. Maybe they did fix something. We will see.
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Yeah, I figured current BO would undo zvb, that's why I was wondering which I should go with. The update downloaded several times, but I don't see anything in /data/local/tmp. Don't know if the download failed or just didn't persist. It hasn't tried to update for the last 30 hours or so. I'm not eager to encourage it at the moment.
I see that haxcid re-rooted, but nothing about re-cwm-ing.
can't find update file(s)
I.M.famous XMAN said:
...someone wants to post up the update (you can rip it from the /data/local/tmp directory, iirc) ...
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I rebooted my phone, and once again it prompted me to install the update. I selected "defer" and then checked settings / about phone / software update / status which says "Package downloaded successfully".
However, /data/local/tmp is still an empty directory, according to ES File Explorer.
That's where the file was stored for v7, v8, and v9. Maybe they changed it for this update. IDK. I'll look into it. No worries. It's all good.
I think it gets downloaded to /cache/fota, but deleted once the process finishes failing. I will try to trigger it again and copy it before the phone reboots. I was not given the defer option this time.
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OrangeJoe said:
I think it gets downloaded to /cache/fota, but deleted once the process finishes failing. I will try to trigger it again and copy it before the phone reboots. I was not given the defer option this time.
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Ok, I got it, I think. It's called ipth_package.bin
For now, I'm going to skip trying to attach it, and just give the link from which it seems to download:
https : / / pvzwmdmcdn.vzw.motive.com/firmware/LG_VS910_ZV9_TO_ZVB.bin
~47 MB
OrangeJoe said:
I think it gets downloaded to /cache/fota, but deleted once the process finishes failing. I will try to trigger it again and copy it before the phone reboots. I was not given the defer option this time.
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Ok, I got it, I think. It's called ipth_package.bin
For now, I'm going to skip trying to attach it, and just give the link from which it seems to download:
https : / / pvzwmdmcdn.vzw.motive.com/firmware/LG_VS910_ZV9_TO_ZVB.bin
~47 MB
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Is it weird that my phone never prompted me for the OTA? I am on BO 2.0.1 with ZV9
dbeauch said:
Is it weird that my phone never prompted me for the OTA? I am on BO 2.0.1 with ZV9
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Not really. I believe MT disabled the update feature from BO; hence the 'super fast' FC's at boot.
December 17, 2014 OTA 5.1 arrive at my Google Nexus 5 running stock, no root.
You are a little lost. Is 5.0.1 not 5.1. Be carefull with your writing.
just downloaded and installed.... only to get ...
"error"
plus a picture of an android lying on its back
phone unresponsive
a few minutes later it rebooted, still in 5.0
Yep, 5.01 OTA came to me about 1 hr. ago and installed with no issues!
EDIT: Sorry, should have stated my N5 is completely stock.
Yep. Got my update about an hour ago also. No issues.
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Where any of you guys rooted before you updated and did it stay rooted?
wilbur said:
just downloaded and installed.... only to get ...
"error"
plus a picture of an android lying on its back
phone unresponsive
a few minutes later it rebooted, still in 5.0
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same here, and can't redownload the update
Xanathoscl said:
same here, and can't redownload the update
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so are any of you all rooted. im rooted NOT running a custom rom. can i do the OTA with out any issues? let me know please
ron608 said:
so are any of you all rooted. im rooted NOT running a custom rom. can i do the OTA with out any issues? let me know please
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in the last time and had OTA update rom and root stock, now at 5.0 root stock and the error I get
it should be noted that both had the bootloader unlocked
Xanathoscl said:
in the last time and had OTA update rom and root stock, now at 5.0 root stock and the error I get
it should be noted that both had the bootloader unlocked
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my nexus is unlocked and rooted. but im running the stock rom. i rooted my phone just to tether my wifi. so i havent really changed anything. so i need to know if i DO the ota update, will it do something to my phone. i didnt quite understand what you meant in what you said.
was saying that the last time I did not have a problem KK to L, now to update 5.0.1 if you gave me error, taking the stock and root
Xanathoscl said:
same here, and can't redownload the update
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after about 10 minutes, the "update available" option returns
rebooted again, same outcome - "error"
i don't have much space on the device (500mb) so i'm going to free up some space and try again...
I'm pretty sure you need to revert to stock, unrooted and locked for the ota to work without issues...
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CPNowell said:
I'm pretty sure you need to revert to stock, unrooted and locked for the ota to work without issues...
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I've never rooted my Nexus 5 (embarrassed to say)... first device that I didn't feel the need to
I've now got tons of spare space... 3rd attempt... downloads, starts to update, wait 20 seconds, then a nice picture of an Android on its back and an "Error!"...
You could try wiping your cache partition before trying again?
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(btw, I'm completely stock and unrooted also...)
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wilbur said:
I've never rooted my Nexus 5 (embarrassed to say)... first device that I didn't feel the need to
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Don't be embarrassed! Like you, I never felt the need to with my Nexus 5... my previous HTC Desire and HTC Desire S however were another story... I just hate HTC Sense with a passion after using the Nexus!
Tried 2 sideload OTA (adb reboot bootloader, then (when my Nexus 5 is in recovery mode and after tellin him "apply update from ADB") adb sideload 785a2f7af3718dba7e569decde8b6c4dc476a309.signed-hammerhead-LRX22C-from-LRX21O.785a2f7a.zip) , Error !
Unroot usin supersu unroot, Error !
Google sent me OTA by air (3 times), Error !
In order 2 wash without data loss, I tried Skipsoft Android Toolkit washin, then I put out android Avast (then sideload again), Error !
I wiped cache...
Then Google sent me OTA (4th), Error !
Do U know some right way (except factory reset) ?
Got mine a few hours ago and installed without issue. its tough to say if it fixed anything since I wasn't having any real issues outside of Chromes performance being terrible and the occasional screen redraw. Seems faster but that might be placebo or just that my caches were cleared with the update.
Worse is I kwow where is the bug : reading /cache/recovery/last_log.x tells that :
.../...
Verifying current system...
failed to stat "/system/bin/install-recovery.sh" : No such file or directory
etc...
(Somebody stole file before...)
As far as I know you must not have custom kernel, custom recovery or be rooted for the OTA to be applied correctly
Got mine this afternoon, in BC Canada only 13.3 mb downloaded and installed with no issues, stock, no root, unlocked boot loader. I always wait a bit after a major update before doing anything to my phone since you know the bug fix is always coming shortly after.
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I just sent back the N6 that had the screen burn out, I got my RMA device and its on just 5.1 not 5.1.1 should I update it or keep it does it matter? Also this N6 is doing some of the same issues that the other device did before it burned out. The screen has a lot of flickering and triangle flashes but only when I'm using my web browser, also, today I got off of a phone call and the proximity sensor failed to turn the screen on. What's up with that? I'm starting to wonder about these N6's man. Any ideas guys. I think I may need to just flash the s#-t out of this thing
electrojas said:
I just sent back the N6 that had the screen burn out, I got my RMA device and its on just 5.1 not 5.1.1 should I update it or keep it does it matter? Also this N6 is doing some of the same issues that the other device did before it burned out. The screen has a lot of flickering and triangle flashes but only when I'm using my web browser, also, today I got off of a phone call and the proximity sensor failed to turn the screen on. What's up with that? I'm starting to wonder about these N6's man. Any ideas guys. I think I may need to just flash the s#-t out of this thing
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If it was mine, I'd RMA this one too.
Unlock it. Fastboot flash the updated 5.1.1 factory image and see what you have. If bad send it back. If good it all good.
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What browser. It may be the problem. There were proximity sensor fixes in one of the updates. Not sure which.
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Unlock it. Fastboot flash the updated 5.1.1 factory image and see what you have. If bad send it back. If good it all good.
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What browser. It may be the problem. There were proximity sensor fixes in one of the updates. Not sure which.
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I'm using adblock browser. I just updated to Windows 10 so now my adb is all jacked up for some reason. When I turned on the phone it said that there was a 5.1.1 update ready to be installed. Should I just take that one before I unlock the BL and root or do the unlock first? Thanks to all of you who are helping me out. Good people.
electrojas said:
I'm using adblock browser. I just updated to Windows 10 so now my adb is all jacked up for some reason. When I turned on the phone it said that there was a 5.1.1 update ready to be installed. Should I just take that one before I unlock the BL and root or do the unlock first? Thanks to all of you who are helping me out. Good people.
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Unlock first. Too many been bricked on that update with bootloader locked. I wouldn't take it. Win 10 didn't jack with my adb. I have full SDK tho. Some are using the 15 minute adb/fastboot. I would search and try to reinstall it. Does your usb debug work as far as showing device MTP on PC. If not you lost the Google driver.
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More than likely that browser is the flicker problem. I use Chrome but with Adaway and MOAB. No adds anywhere. lol
I'll have to check. I'm so gunshy now I only hooked this to pc just to put music on it. I'll unlock BL and try the update after. Thanks
electrojas said:
I'll have to check. I'm so gunshy now I only hooked this to pc just to put music on it. I'll unlock BL and try the update after. Thanks
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If able to put music on your driver is good. Need ADB/Fastboot working or you are already dead in the water.
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Unlock first. Too many been bricked on that update with bootloader locked. I wouldn't take it. Win 10 didn't jack with my adb. I have full SDK tho. Some are using the 15 minute adb/fastboot. I would search and try to reinstall it. Does your usb debug work as far as showing device MTP on PC. If not you lost the Google driver.
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More than likely that browser is the flicker problem. I use Chrome but with Adaway and MOAB. No adds anywhere. lol
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15 minute adb? What is that like a tool that does all of that for you?
electrojas said:
15 minute adb? What is that like a tool that does all of that for you?
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It the lazy man ADB/Fastboot for those that don't want to install full SDK and edit the environmental path.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2588979
So I just follow the unlock procedure in the how to post like normal now right
electrojas said:
So I just follow the unlock procedure in the how to post like normal now right
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Enable unlock in developers options. Boot to bootloader. in command prompt type "fastboot devices" to make sure your device id shows up. If shows device type "fastboot oem unlock". Will see prompt on phone to agree.
It's just finished so now does it matter which 5.1.1 I take, and do I have to put TWRP on this in order to do it
I suppose now I can take the downloaded one or do you recommend a better file. I really would like to keep this Damn phone
electrojas said:
It's just finished so now does it matter which 5.1.1 I take, and do I have to put TWRP on this in order to do it
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Latest for all carriers is I version unless you are on TMobile then it is the one that says TMobile only. They don't have the security update yet. No need for TWRP yet as long as unlocked. Get it booted and see if everything works. Do NOT relock. DO NOT use toolkit. Do it manually with fastboot commands.
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Latest for all carriers is I version unless you are on TMobile then it is the one that says TMobile only. They don't have the security update yet. No need for TWRP yet as long as unlocked. Get it booted and see if everything works. Do NOT relock.
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Mine is unbranded factory unlocked. It's restoring all my backed up poo right now. I guess I have 2 options. 1 take the Ota they send down or install the one I downloaded yesterday. It says for all carriers except tmobile. I got it from Google yesterday. It's the exact one that was on the phone I sent back. Do you have any particular preference or reccomendation?
electrojas said:
Mine is unbranded factory unlocked. It's restoring all my backed up poo right now. I guess I have 2 options. 1 take the Ota they send down or install the one I downloaded yesterday. It says for all carriers except tmobile. I got it from Google yesterday. It's the exact one that was on the phone I sent back. Do you have any particular preference or reccomendation?
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The new I version has the Stagefright security fix otherwize the Z version is fine. That is what I am on. Haven't updated yet.. You can try OTA as long as unlocked. Have seen posts that say OTA won't work unlocked. Not sure. If it bootloops and it is locked you are hosed again and have to RMA.
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The new I version has the Stagefright security fix otherwize the Z version is fine. That is what I am on. Haven't updated yet.. You can try OTA as long as unlocked. Have seen posts that say OTA won't work unlocked. Not sure. If it bootloops and it is locked you are hosed again and have to RMA.
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The new I version? Is the best place to get it on here or Motorola? Also your gonna think this is a stupid question but what is I version? I'm coming from Sammy to LG back to Sammy, now this. Learning about fastboot its all new to me. Thanks bro
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electrojas said:
The new I version? Is the best place to get it on here or Motorola? Also your gonna think this is a stupid question but what is I version? I'm coming from Sammy to LG back to Sammy, now this. Learning about fastboot its all new to me. Thanks bro
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I successfully rooted my new 5th generation Kindle Fire 7" tonight. However, it did update to Fire OS 5.0.1 when I was first setting it up. Can I still disable the automatic OTA updates? If so, HOW????
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I successfully rooted my new 5th generation Kindle Fire 7" tonight. However, it did update to Fire OS 5.0.1 when I was first setting it up. Can I still disable the automatic OTA updates? If so, HOW????
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How did you root?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3220430
Disable OTA - Keep SDCard Write Access and Use a Different Launcher *READ BEFORE BOOT
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How did you root?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3220430
Disable OTA - Keep SDCard Write Access and Use a Different Launcher *READ BEFORE BOOT
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I followed your directions on another post http://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/general/installing-google-framework-playstore-t3216122
but I had already set things up over Wifi earlier in the day when I bought the tablet. Didn't want to drive another hour back to the store if it didn't work right (I read some bad reviews about problems right out of the gate).
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I followed your directions on another post http://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/general/installing-google-framework-playstore-t3216122
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that is done without root
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ldeveraux said:
That has nothing to do with rooting...
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That has nothing to do with rooting...
Disable OTA
I'm in a similiar situation.
After buying the tablet I've updated to 5.0.1
Afterwards I've rooted the tablet via:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/development/wip-achieving-root-thread-t3238152
Now my question is: how to disable OTA - still possible?
Guess, I found it. Here the link for all the others finding this thread first:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/general/disable-ota-sdcard-write-access-t3220430
also in this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3239582
5.0.1 Bloatware & other Safe to remove Apps (2015)
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that is done without root
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I actually used the method in that thread to install Google Framework/Play Store. This thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/general/installing-google-framework-playstore-t3216122
I came across the tutorial video for it on youtube before I came across your post in this thread that linked to the Google Framework/Play Store install thread. The reason I came across this thread was because I was also searching for a way to disable OTA updates, however, I now noticed that in the Google Framework/Play Store install thread there's a note made by you which states that the install bat now includes blocking OTA updates as of 02 Nov 2015. I did follow this method after that date, so does this mean that I no longer need to use adb commands to disable OTA updates? I was going to use the method found in this thread, which you also linked to: http://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/general/disable-ota-sdcard-write-access-t3220430 but I'm now assuming that I don't need to. Could you please tell me if my thinking would be correct on this? Thanks very much in advance.
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I actually used the method in that thread to install Google Framework/Play Store. This thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/general/installing-google-framework-playstore-t3216122
I came across the tutorial video for it on youtube before I came across your post in this thread that linked to the Google Framework/Play Store install thread. The reason I came across this thread was because I was also searching for a way to disable OTA updates, however, I now noticed that in the Google Framework/Play Store install thread there's a note made by you which states that the install bat now includes blocking OTA updates as of 02 Nov 2015. I did follow this method after that date, so does this mean that I no longer need to use adb commands to disable OTA updates? I was going to use the method found in this thread, which you also linked to: http://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/general/disable-ota-sdcard-write-access-t3220430 but I'm now assuming that I don't need to. Could you please tell me if my thinking would be correct on this? Thanks very much in advance.
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GTab10.1 said:
I actually used the method in that thread to install Google Framework/Play Store. This thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/general/installing-google-framework-playstore-t3216122
I came across the tutorial video for it on youtube before I came across your post in this thread that linked to the Google Framework/Play Store install thread. The reason I came across this thread was because I was also searching for a way to disable OTA updates, however, I now noticed that in the Google Framework/Play Store install thread there's a note made by you which states that the install bat now includes blocking OTA updates as of 02 Nov 2015. I did follow this method after that date, so does this mean that I no longer need to use adb commands to disable OTA updates? I was going to use the method found in this thread, which you also linked to: http://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/general/disable-ota-sdcard-write-access-t3220430 but I'm now assuming that I don't need to. Could you please tell me if my thinking would be correct on this? Thanks very much in advance.
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Well the batch file has several options, if you've selected the 3rd one (block OTA updates from Amazon) on the menu and not used the 4th one then you have blocked them. If you've only used the 2nd option (Install Google Play store and remove ads from lock screen) then they aren't blocked.
Option 3 is still using adb commands to block the ota apks, the only difference is the batch file is 'automating' them so you don't have to type em in by hand. You just have to select 3 like Pond-life said above. And for the love of god don't anyone select option 4 !
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Option 3 is still using adb commands to block the ota apks, the only difference is the batch file is 'automating' them so you don't have to type em in by hand. You just have to select 3 like Pond-life said above. And for the love of god don't anyone select option 4 !
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Thanks guys! And is it easy to re-enable OTA updates in the future if I want to?
I haven't rooted it I only used the option to install play store and disable ads, but I've read people saying the latest update causes the play store to stop working or something?
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Thanks guys! And is it easy to re-enable OTA updates in the future if I want to?
I haven't rooted it I only used the option to install play store and disable ads, but I've read people saying the latest update causes the play store to stop working or something?
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yes, just use adb unhide command
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I'd like to know too
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When I used that batch file disabling ota was a selectable option. Assuming you did you should be safe. You can check by turning off WiFi and going to settings-device options-system updates. If you click system updates and get The requested action is not permitted then you should be OK. Of course you can also go the manual adb route as well. If updates are already blocked then you'll just get an error from adb (to the best of my recollection). Or run the batch file again and select the "Block ota" option again if you are not sure if you did before.
Edit: actually I was wrong, if you "pm hide" a package that's already hidden it just says "new status:hidden" again. Not sure that there is a way to tell if a package is hidden since there is no "pm list packages -h" command.
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yes, just use adb unhide command
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What happens if I use option 4 (unblock OTA updates)? Wouldn't that work aswell?
Does that mean the latest updates really can cause problems even if I just installed the playstore and didn't actually root it?
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What happens if I use option 4 (unblock OTA updates)? Wouldn't that work aswell?
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yes, that should work
Does that mean the latest updates really can cause problems even if I just installed the playstore and didn't actually root it?
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Depends on the update, looks like google framework works with 5.1.1, if installed as a user app.
but future updates could be different
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When I used that batch file disabling ota was a selectable option. Assuming you did you should be safe. You can check by turning off WiFi and going to settings-device options-system updates. If you click system updates and get The requested action is not permitted then you should be OK. Of course you can also go the manual adb route as well. If updates are already blocked then you'll just get an error from adb (to the best of my recollection). Or run the batch file again and select the "Block ota" option again if you are not sure if you did before.
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I froze the 3 ota files with TiBu. When I go to settings>device options>system updates, it forces closes back out the the device options screen. Should I be good NOT to get the update?
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I froze the 3 ota files with TiBu. When I go to settings>device options>system updates, it forces closes back out the the device options screen. Should I be good NOT to get the update?
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Yes.
Quick backstory; I rooted my 5th Gen 7" Fire a loooong time ago, with I believe a version of Rootjunky's supertool. Removed auto OS updates, all that good stuff. Accordingly, I cannot access the OS info via System Updates (tapping it gives a blank screen for a moment, then goes back to the main settings screen). I have Google Play & services installed.
So, I tried today to use the Amazon Appstore, and I'm getting a "Network Unreachable" error right when the app launches. I can't use any functions of the store. I'm thinking it's maybe because the app is such a relatively old version, Amazon's network is giving it grief, but I don't know for certain.
Like I said, I can't see for sure what OS version I have, but it has to be one of the first iterations of 5.something.
If anyone has run into this, or has any suggestions to get the appstore working again, I'm all ears. I did a factory reset, both from in the OS and from the Amazon recovery (complete with wiping cache), with no luck. Thanks in advance for any help.
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Quick backstory; I rooted my 5th Gen 7" Fire a loooong time ago, with I believe a version of Rootjunky's supertool. Removed auto OS updates, all that good stuff. Accordingly, I cannot access the OS info via System Updates (tapping it gives a blank screen for a moment, then goes back to the main settings screen). I have Google Play & services installed.
So, I tried today to use the Amazon Appstore, and I'm getting a "Network Unreachable" error right when the app launches. I can't use any functions of the store. I'm thinking it's maybe because the app is such a relatively old version, Amazon's network is giving it grief, but I don't know for certain.
Like I said, I can't see for sure what OS version I have, but it has to be one of the first iterations of 5.something.
If anyone has run into this, or has any suggestions to get the appstore working again, I'm all ears. I did a factory reset, both from in the OS and from the Amazon recovery (complete with wiping cache), with no luck. Thanks in advance for any help.
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Have you checked the clock? Sometimes, if the time is off, my store will break. Other than that, I'd recommend you download EZ File explorer, google form the most up to date amazon store apk, uninstall yours and give it a fresh install, especially if you feel out of date is the problem.
I'd also recommend you download a custom rom and flashfire and see if you can't fix that OS info problem, especially since you've already wiped all your data anyway.
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Have you checked the clock? Sometimes, if the time is off, my store will break. Other than that, I'd recommend you download EZ File explorer, google form the most up to date amazon store apk, uninstall yours and give it a fresh install, especially if you feel out of date is the problem.
I'd also recommend you download a custom rom and flashfire and see if you can't fix that OS info problem, especially since you've already wiped all your data anyway.
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This won't work:
- the version of Amazon's app store is different on FireOS; I don't believe it's available for download
- I did not see the OP had wiped his data; the OS info problem is related to blocking OTA updates
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scooter1979 said:
Quick backstory; I rooted my 5th Gen 7" Fire a loooong time ago, with I believe a version of Rootjunky's supertool. Removed auto OS updates, all that good stuff. Accordingly, I cannot access the OS info via System Updates (tapping it gives a blank screen for a moment, then goes back to the main settings screen). I have Google Play & services installed.
So, I tried today to use the Amazon Appstore, and I'm getting a "Network Unreachable" error right when the app launches. I can't use any functions of the store. I'm thinking it's maybe because the app is such a relatively old version, Amazon's network is giving it grief, but I don't know for certain.
Like I said, I can't see for sure what OS version I have, but it has to be one of the first iterations of 5.something.
If anyone has run into this, or has any suggestions to get the appstore working again, I'm all ears. I did a factory reset, both from in the OS and from the Amazon recovery (complete with wiping cache), with no luck. Thanks in advance for any help.
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Best solution is to install a custom ROM; however you seem satisfied with FireOS.
Next best solution IMO is to reload FireOS (which includes Amazon's app store) but you will probably want to stick with version 5.0.1 if that's what is currently installed. Obvious problem is you can't determine that through normal means. Have to be careful here; if you attempt to reload 5.0.1 and your device is currently on 5.1.x or above it will brick. You would also need to reroot, reblock OTA updates, etc. In short, everything you did before. With no guarantee it will fix your original problem (although I think it will).
One way to test for 5.0.1 is to see if it will boot TWRP. However, that can be messy if you are unfamiliar with fastboot and/or have never established a connection with the device in question.
@steve8x8 - I seem to recall you wrote a tool that can query current component/system levels. Thoughts?
p.s. You could also go with FireOS 5.3.1 which is the last build that can be rooted at present. No brick risk as 5.3.1 is >= the current version of FireOS on the device.
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Have you checked the clock? Sometimes, if the time is off, my store will break. Other than that, I'd recommend you download EZ File explorer, google form the most up to date amazon store apk, uninstall yours and give it a fresh install, especially if you feel out of date is the problem.
I'd also recommend you download a custom rom and flashfire and see if you can't fix that OS info problem, especially since you've already wiped all your data anyway.
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It's not the clock, that's as it should be.
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This won't work:
- the version of Amazon's app store is different on FireOS; I don't believe it's available for download
- I did not see the OP had wiped his data; the OS info problem is related to blocking OTA updates
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Best solution is to install a custom ROM; however you seem satisfied with FireOS.
Next best solution IMO is to reload FireOS (which includes Amazon's app store) but you will probably want to stick with version 5.0.1 if that's what is currently installed. Obvious problem is you can't determine that through normal means. Have to be careful here; if you attempt to reload 5.0.1 and your device is currently on 5.1.x or above it will brick. You would also need to reroot, reblock OTA updates, etc. In short, everything you did before. With no guarantee it will fix your original problem (although I think it will).
One way to test for 5.0.1 is to see if it will boot TWRP. However, that can be messy if you are unfamiliar with fastboot and/or have never established a connection with the device in question.
@steve8x8 - I seem to recall you wrote a tool that can query current component/system levels. Thoughts?
p.s. You could also go with FireOS 5.3.1 which is the last build that can be rooted at present. No brick risk as 5.3.1 is >= the current version of FireOS on the device.
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You are correct, I am happy with the FireOS.
I've played in fastboot before, and given EXACT instructions, I can regurgitate results, but it's not my native tongue. I don't know if the appstore version is locked to the OS version, but according to Appstore Settings under the manage Amazon apps section, I'm rocking release-9.1011.5.1.39.0_2000145010, last updated 2/12/15. Any way to link that with OS version?
If no more info can be gleaned from my device, either from the appstore version or something steve8x8 may have, I may just load 5.3.1 on and run from there. Kinda rather not, but I'd kinda rather not not have appstore access.
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... I've played in fastboot before, and given EXACT instructions, I can regurgitate results, but it's not my native tongue. I don't know if the appstore version is locked to the OS version, but according to Appstore Settings under the manage Amazon apps section, I'm rocking release-9.1011.5.1.39.0_2000145010, last updated 2/12/15. Any way to link that with OS version?
If no more info can be gleaned from my device, either from the appstore version or something steve8x8 may have, I may just load 5.3.1 on and run from there. Kinda rather not, but I'd kinda rather not not have appstore access.
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To my knowledge there is no direct correlation of appstore version to FireOS version. Obviously there's a range but we'd need a 1-1 match to draw a comfortable conclusion.
You can test TWRP bootability by following the guidance in this post. If TWRP boots you can safely sideload FireOS 5.0.1 from here using instructions in this thread (posts #1 and #2). That said, if you have no intention of every installing a custom ROM there really isn't any advantage to retaining an older bootloader. If that's the case might as well sideload FireOS 5.3.1. Be aware there is no going back if you take this step.
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To my knowledge there is no direct correlation of appstore version to FireOS version. Obviously there's a range but we'd need a 1-1 match to draw a comfortable conclusion.
You can test TWRP bootability by following the guidance in this post. If TWRP boots you can safely sideload FireOS 5.0.1 from here using instructions in this thread (posts #1 and #2). That said, if you have no intention of every installing a custom ROM there really isn't any advantage to retaining an older bootloader. If that's the case might as well sideload FireOS 5.3.1. Be aware there is no going back if you take this step.
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Ahhhh nuts. I'm getting "FAILED (remote: unknown command)" return on my Win7 machine trying to boot TWRP, and just simple USB transmission OK output on the device. Looks like I'm over 5.0.1.
Guess it's 5.3.1 for me. I'm assuming I can just follow the directions from sd_shadow's unbrick stock recovery ADB sideload thread, yes? Thanks for all of your help, I really appreciate it.
There's a guide to find bootloader version: https://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/development/identify-bootloader-version-t3424634
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scooter1979 said:
Ahhhh nuts. I'm getting "FAILED (remote: unknown command)" return on my Win7 machine trying to boot TWRP, and just simple USB transmission OK output on the device. Looks like I'm over 5.0.1.
Guess it's 5.3.1 for me. I'm assuming I can just follow the directions from sd_shadow's unbrick stock recovery ADB sideload thread, yes? Thanks for all of your help, I really appreciate it.
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Just be sure that you don't accidentally update. Don't connect to WiFi until you have KingRoot, and be sure not to let the os update finish downloading. Once you connect, it will start. Some tips I found on how to avoid updates:
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- use Kingroot 4.92 or lower; avoid v5.x (nearly impossible to remove)
- partial OTA update files are erased each time the device reboots
- KingRoot reboots frequently
- find a slow AP (library, coffee shop, etc) to thoddle the pace of downloads
- enable WiFi only after KingRoot starts and kill it when run completes
- force reboot device if KingRoot hangs for a prolonged period
- you may have to repeat the process multiple times
- there are trickier approaches (eg: IP/domain blocking) with variable results; the above playbook has worked well for most
- good luck
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Just be sure that you don't accidentally update. Don't connect to WiFi until you have KingRoot, and be sure not to let the os update finish downloading. Once you connect, it will start. Some tips I found on how to avoid updates:
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Along with not hooking up wifi immediately, I was thinking of using rootjunky's supertool for root & update blocking, as the tool says it's now compatible with 5.3.1. Should be good enough, as long as I don't connect to a network until ALL of the supertool fun is done (I hope).
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Along with not hooking up wifi immediately, I was thinking of using rootjunky's supertool for root & update blocking, as the tool says it's now compatible with 5.3.1. Should be good enough, as long as I don't connect to a network until ALL of the supertool fun is done (I hope).
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You need WiFi to root. That's why you need to be careful, since update starts quickly. Here's the thread the quote was from: https://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/help/dilemma-t3545062
If you can block the domains linked to in that thread, that'll help. It's not necessary, but it's a good idea.
EDIT: here's the post with them:
HughJeffner said:
Using stock 5.3.1 fresh install here are the domain names used in the update process:
softwareupdates.amazon.com
amzdigital-a.akamaihd.net
The first one is the actual update check, blocking DNS lookup of this domain effectively disabled auto-updates for me YMMV
The second domain name is where the firmware is actually downloaded from (not verified but seems probable). Note that this could change depending on how the update check is implemented.
I recommend blocking DNS resolution of softwareupdates.amazon.com if practical in your situation
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You need WiFi to root. That's why you need to be careful, since update starts quickly. Here's the thread the quote was from: https://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/help/dilemma-t3545062
If you can block the domains linked to in that thread, that'll help. It's not necessary, but it's a good idea.
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Ohhhhh, I didn't realize Kingroot needs internet access... Besides that, I saw in the tool's changelogs that it even removes Kingroot & puts the normal supersu in the system, so I thought everything was more or less a "normal" rooting procedure. Whoops. Thank you, I'll be DNS blocking before anything.
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Ohhhhh, I didn't realize Kingroot needs internet access... Besides that, I saw in the tool's changelogs that it even removes Kingroot & puts the normal supersu in the system, so I thought everything was more or less a "normal" rooting procedure. Whoops. Thank you, I'll be DNS blocking before anything.
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It removes KingRoot after using it to root. AFAIK, KingRoot is the only thing that can root these tablets. Personally, I'd recommend finding your bootloader version and flashing that, but it's just a personal preference, and has no practical difference unless you have 5.0.x, which you don't. I just like having oldest I can in case a downgrade method is ever found.
Also I may have an updated appstore apk from my brother's 5.3.2.1 tablet, let me check.
EDIT: Nope, I don't. I do, however, have an (old) apk from the Amazon website. See if installing this version helps. Just out of curiosity, could you attach the apk from your current appstore? I'm wondering if it will install on Fire Nexus. The UI looks much better than the version I have downloaded.
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Just out of curiosity, could you attach the apk from your current appstore? I'm wondering if it will install on Fire Nexus. The UI looks much better than the version I have downloaded.
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I'll be happy to if you give me the path, or even the full name of the apk so I can search via root explorer.
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I'll be happy to if you give me the path.
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If you have a file manager, search /system/app and /system/priv-app for com.amazon. venezia. Or, use an app like titanium backup to back it up.
It's taking forever to upload the apk I'm using, so here's the link if you want to test if it works: https://www.amazon.com/appstore_android_app
If not, I think you will need to reflash, unfortunately.
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There's a guide to find bootloader version: https://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/development/identify-bootloader-version-t3424634
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Used this method, I'm on 5.1.1 (5.4.1_112720 5.1.1). Dagnabbit, missed it by that much.
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Used this method, I'm on 5.1.1 (5.4.1_112720 5.1.1). Dagnabbit, missed it by that much.
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Then I'd recommend flashing 5.1.1. Like I said, if a downgrade method is found, it will probably be for older versions. Plus it's harder to brick, since only one or two versions are below it.
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It's taking forever to upload the apk I'm using, so here's the link if you want to test if it works: https://www.amazon.com/appstore_android_app
If not, I think you will need to reflash, unfortunately.
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No go. Got a "Application Not Installed" error.
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Then I'd recommend flashing 5.1.1. Like I said, if a downgrade method is found, it will probably be for older versions. Plus it's harder to brick, since only one or two versions are below it.
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The thing there is, if the issue is indeed related to the age of the appstore, which doesn't look like it has been updated since the OS was, sideloading the same version would put me in the same boat I'm in now. If I drop 5.3.1 on there, that should fix me, assuming the age of the store is the underlying issue. Unless there's something I'm missing.
Ok, my venezia is attached.
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No go. Got a "Application Not Installed" error.
The thing there is, if the issue is indeed related to the age of the appstore, which doesn't look like it has been updated since the OS was, sideloading the same version would put me in the same boat I'm in now. If I drop 5.3.1 on there, that should fix me, assuming the age of the store is the underlying issue. Unless there's something I'm missing.
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A while back, I found a tutorial on how to upgrade system, but keep bootloader the same. Let me look...
Also, if it isn't the age of the app store, it has no effect. You could also try Amazon Underground app. It has a different package name, so it will install alongside the Appstore you have. This way, you can see if it has to do with the store or if it's just not working.
EDIT: Having trouble finding the link. I think what it was is you can download an update file, rename it from *.bin to *.zip, extract system.img, put it on the device, flash it, root, and disable ota immediately. I'll keep looking.
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Umm, you guys?...
Ya wanna hear something wacky? Just for the fart of it, I ran the apk I just uploaded on my own device, and, um, the store works now. Zero problems. Connects just fine.
Now don't I feel like a horse's patoot?
Well, if nothing else, I learned what DNS to block if I upgrade to 5.3.1, how to check my bootloader via hex editor, and to rely on the kindness of strangers to fall bassackwards into an easy solution. Yeesh.
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Ya wanna hear something wacky? Just for the fart of it, I ran the apk I just uploaded on my own device, and, um, the store works now. Zero problems. Connects just fine.
Now don't I feel like a horse's patoot?
Well, if nothing else, I learned what DNS to block if I upgrade to 5.3.1, how to check my bootloader via hex editor, and to rely on the kindness of strangers to fall bassackwards into an easy solution. Yeesh.
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Oh. Well, I found the thread, if you want. It gives instructions for FlashFire as well.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/general/howto-install-fireos-5-1-1-root-gapps-t3265594
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Ok, my venezia is attached.
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Was there a .odex in the folder, and/or a lib folder? If so, could you also upload that? If not, then it appears it will not work. Shame. Thanks for the apk.
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