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I've managed to find some chargers (both car and wall) that will charge with 1800mA (according to Galaxy Charging Lite app).
I have not managed to find an aftermarket cable that will charge at more than 1amp. Anyone know of an aftermarket cable that actually is capable of 1800mA? I've tried nGear and monoprice, and while they are very well constructed cables, they will only charge at 1amp or less with the n7100
Thanks for the help in advance, but please only respond to this if you've actually tested the cable with with the Galaxy Charging app or a current meter of some sort. I'm not interested in cables that only work anecdotally.
-PW
I'm breaking your rules (gasp) but as far as I'm aware, it's not the cable that manages the charge, it's the power adapter that feeds the usb, right? I've used all sorts of random cables on my travels for work, but always sticking to my 2+ amp output charger, and they've always worked.
pacificwing said:
I've managed to find some chargers (both car and wall) that will charge with 1800mA (according to Galaxy Charging Lite app).
I have not managed to find an aftermarket cable that will charge at more than 1amp. Anyone know of an aftermarket cable that actually is capable of 1800mA? I've tried nGear and monoprice, and while they are very well constructed cables, they will only charge at 1amp or less with the n7100
Thanks for the help in advance, but please only respond to this if you've actually tested the cable with with the Galaxy Charging app or a current meter of some sort. I'm not interested in cables that only work anecdotally.
-PW
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Find a very short cable and you'll see rates up to 2100 ma (as measure by battery monitor widget). I use the short usb cable that came with my jambox combined with the the phones stock charger. The charger gets so hot due to the high current that I worry if it might burn out. The cable is very short, like 6 inches. I use this one when i need a quick bump before going out.
At this low of voltage plus high current, the shielding on most cables is not enough to protect against the voltage fluctuations caused by the high magnetic field. The longer the cable the more shielding is needed. Additionally, the cable shielding gets less effective as the cable gets older due to general wear. My original usb cable can only due around 740 - 1250ma, where it used to do 1800ma when new nearly 2 years ago.
If you could find a cable where there the positive and negative wires are separated in parallel strands like traditional AC power cords, it would also help. I have a cheap charger with built in cord like this and it charges consistently fast.
Jarm3r said:
I'm breaking your rules (gasp) but as far as I'm aware, it's not the cable that manages the charge, it's the power adapter that feeds the usb, right? I've used all sorts of random cables on my travels for work, but always sticking to my 2+ amp output charger, and they've always worked.
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Most USB cables will work with the charger, but some cables (usually longer or smaller gauge wires) will restrict the charge to a lower amperage. I still haven't quite figured out how the phone knows what cable is being used, because, realistically, in a simple DC circuit, the consequence of using a cable that is too small is heating up or burning out. A cable that is too small alone will not prevent too much amperage from going through itself. This is why they invented fuses. Somehow the phone detects the gauge/length of cable being used and restricts the amperage being pulled from the charger by changing its own resistance on the circuit.
nswenson said:
Find a very short cable and you'll see rates up to 2100 ma (as measure by battery monitor widget). I use the short usb cable that came with my jambox combined with the the phones stock charger. The charger gets so hot due to the high current that I worry if it might burn out. The cable is very short, like 6 inches. I use this one when i need a quick bump before going out.
At this low of voltage plus high current, the shielding on most cables is not enough to protect against the voltage fluctuations caused by the high magnetic field. The longer the cable the more shielding is needed. Additionally, the cable shielding gets less effective as the cable gets older due to general wear. My original usb cable can only due around 740 - 1250ma, where it used to do 1800ma when new nearly 2 years ago.
If you could find a cable where there the positive and negative wires are separated in parallel strands like traditional AC power cords, it would also help. I have a cheap charger with built in cord like this and it charges consistently fast.
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I suspect you're right. The impedance of a cable is the only thing that would change over a period of time that would result in a cable that could once pull 2A to start pulling less than that. Still, it would be nice to have a list of chargers/cables that consistently pull 2A before dropping $15-$30 on one of them. There exists such a list on this forum, but it is filled with comments like "It's good enough for me", without any real data as to what performance they are getting. Hence my rules above.
The charge rate depends on your kernal not the cable. I use Agni and get over 2 amp charges from a USB cable I paid 12 cents shipped for on eBay.
I purchased this cable about two weeks ago and it delivers!! I can charge my 9300mah Zero Lemon battery from 0-100 in just under 4 hours. Stock battery in about 1.5-2hrs. Of course I'm using a 2.1 amp charger, but NONE of my other cables come close. I'm averaging 1800-1900mah charge rate with it. Next highest rate cord only gets about 1200 max. I plan on ordering 2-3 more. $5 and change with PRIME.
2.1A Micro USB Sync & Charging Cable (1M) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B009Z94PV2/ref=cm_sw_r_udp_awd_7MD2tb08CY1N7R0J
carlz28 said:
I purchased this cable about two weeks ago and it delivers!! I can charge my 9300mah Zero Lemon battery from 0-100 in just under 4 hours. Stock battery in about 1.5-2hrs. Of course I'm using a 2.1 amp charger, but NONE of my other cables come close. I'm averaging 1800-1900mah charge rate with it. Next highest rate cord only gets about 1200 max. I plan on ordering 2-3 more. $5 and change with PRIME.
2.1A Micro USB Sync & Charging Cable (1M) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B009Z94PV2/ref=cm_sw_r_udp_awd_7MD2tb08CY1N7R0J
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Thank you! This is exactly the type of review I was looking for!
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Check this out. http://voyager8.blogspot.com/2013/04/how-to-choose-good-usb-data-and.htmlI found it while looking for the 6ft cable I used to use until it shorted from heavy use (bending a lot) and I got a pack of 10 short flat wire style 3ft cables. My 6ft one has a ferrite end and printed on it: 28agw/1p and 26awg/2c. It could handle 2A just fine, but this requires any wall outlet adapter that can output that amperage. The oem outlet adapter that comes with the phone says 2.0A output, but you can fine any 'reliable' one that has 2.0A output.
if the original cable is not 1800mA, there must be a reason
Get one of these
http://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_id=103&cp_id=10303&cs_id=1030307&p_id=5457&seq=1&format=2
anyone have this cable... or know if it is a 28AWG/1P + 24AWG/2C (i.e., 24AWG/2C for charging)
http://www.amazon.com/Mediabridge-U.../B004GF8TIK/ref=pd_cp_e_1/186-6092214-7798820
Hi
Hard to get something original for samsung nowadays
I have those monoprice cables but get different results every time I plug in (1698ma, 1300ma, 600ma, 460ma, etc...)
carlz28 said:
I purchased this cable about two weeks ago and it delivers!! I can charge my 9300mah Zero Lemon battery from 0-100 in just under 4 hours. Stock battery in about 1.5-2hrs. Of course I'm using a 2.1 amp charger, but NONE of my other cables come close. I'm averaging 1800-1900mah charge rate with it. Next highest rate cord only gets about 1200 max. I plan on ordering 2-3 more. $5 and change with PRIME.
2.1A Micro USB Sync & Charging Cable (1M) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B009Z94PV2/ref=cm_sw_r_udp_awd_7MD2tb08CY1N7R0J
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Which 2.1 amp charger are you using? I have one for my car, looking for one for home use. I also have the 9300mah ZeroLemon battery in my T-Mobile Note 2. Thanks!
Asquared said:
Which 2.1 amp charger are you using? I have one for my car, looking for one for home use. I also have the 9300mah ZeroLemon battery in my T-Mobile Note 2. Thanks!
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I was using the 2A charger that came with my Nexus tablet. But I bought an additional one for work.
iXCC ® Dual USB 4.2 Amp (20 Watt) SMART High Capacity [High Power] ... http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00HPTU0OU/ref=cm_sw_r_udp_awd_PR7.tb01EM5CB
$11.99 thru PRIME.
Had this one for almost 3 months now and it works VERY well. I get a full 1900-2000mah charge rate on the Note2 and can charge my tablet at quick speeds simultaneously.
ElDuez said:
The charge rate depends on your kernal not the cable. I use Agni and get over 2 amp charges from a USB cable I paid 12 cents shipped for on eBay.
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some fake cable limit current.
Got similar problems as the OP. I wanted to charge my phone in my car and using the phone as a navigation device without depleting the battery (which occured a few time).
Tried several usb cables, even did some mods like shorting the white and green data wire in the cabel at the phone side, but that all didn't help.
Then i came to Kopi who sells usb cables which can deliver a full current.
http://kopi-d.com/?recent_works=553
Bought a few for 6 dollar each and am now a happy camper.
shizuku said:
Got similar problems as the OP. I wanted to charge my phone in my car and using the phone as a navigation device without depleting the battery (which occured a few time).
Tried several usb cables, even did some mods like shorting the white and green data wire in the cabel at the phone side, but that all didn't help.
Then i came to Kopi who sells usb cables which can deliver a full current.
http://kopi-d.com/?recent_works=553
Bought a few for 6 dollar each and am now a happy camper.
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We're sorry, but there are no items available in the Micro USB (Android) category lol on the web site
linkhunter said:
We're sorry, but there are no items available in the Micro USB (Android) category lol on the web site
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I just saw it. Why don't you email them and ask about availability? I had contact with Victor Leung ([email protected]).
Is there a way to tell whether you're charging with a Quick Charge 2.0 compatible adapter, vs a standard 2.0A fast charger? Maybe I'm missing something, but the Nexus 6 shows "Charging (AC)" either way.
I know that QC 2.0 requires that the data pins of the cable be intact, and if you plug in a charge-only cable it falls back to QC 1.0 (standard 5V, 2A charger). I'm looking to buy a couple QC 2.0 adapters, and it would be nice to be able to quickly tell if I got my money's worth WITHOUT having to drain my phone and time how long it takes to charge.
I noticed this too. My wife's Note 4 shows a message indicating that its charging via fast charger (aka quickcharge 2.0).
For our phone, I would suggest just plugging it into a known working quickcharge 2.0 charger, like the one that came with the phone. Wait 1 min until it shows the time until full. Then switch to your new charger, wait a min, and compare the time remaining until full. If they are close to the same, then your good to go. At least this would save you having to fully discharge and time the recharge...
The easy way is to use the charger that came with the phone
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Is there a way to tell whether you're charging with a Quick Charge 2.0 compatible adapter, vs a standard 2.0A fast charger? Maybe I'm missing something, but the Nexus 6 shows "Charging (AC)" either way.
I know that QC 2.0 requires that the data pins of the cable be intact, and if you plug in a charge-only cable it falls back to QC 1.0 (standard 5V, 2A charger). I'm looking to buy a couple QC 2.0 adapters, and it would be nice to be able to quickly tell if I got my money's worth WITHOUT having to drain my phone and time how long it takes to charge.
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No indication.
but it is faster, I ran my 2.1a charger against it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/nexus-6-charge-time-test-moto-turbo-t2948176
DieGo316 said:
The easy way is to use the charger that came with the phone
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You'd think that, but accidentally plug the wrong cable into that charger, and you'll THINK it's quick-charging, but if that cable happens to be a charge-only cable, it will be locked to the 5V setting, which with the Moto charger, is at 1.6A. Besides, for some reason, the charger that came with my phone worn't fit in the little round charging hole in my car, so I'm looking to buy a QC 2.0 car charger. The point of my OP was that anyone can slap the words "Quick Charge" on their Amazon product page (especially since any 2A charger is technically a "Quick Charge 1.0" cable -- even if the ad says 2.0, well, that's just a typo -- should have said 1.0... oops!), and I'm looking for a way to quickly test the product I receive.
@TheSopranos16, Good suggestion about waiting for the "...until fully charged" message pops up. I'll have to test that to see if it really does show a different time that quickly with a QC 2.0 adapter. Still, it's something that the Note 4 can see, so I'm thinking it's something that an App should be able to see. I briefly looked, but didn't find one. I was kind of hoping someone else had.
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You'd think that, but accidentally plug the wrong cable into that charger, and you'll THINK it's quick-charging, but if that cable happens to be a charge-only cable, it will be locked to the 5V setting, which with the Moto charger, is at 1.6A. Besides, for some reason, the charger that came with my phone worn't fit in the little round charging hole in my car, so I'm looking to buy a QC 2.0 car charger. The point of my OP was that anyone can slap the words "Quick Charge" on their Amazon product page (especially since any 2A charger is technically a "Quick Charge 1.0" cable -- even if the ad says 2.0, well, that's just a typo -- should have said 1.0... oops!), and I'm looking for a way to quickly test the product I receive.
@TheSopranos16, Good suggestion about waiting for the "...until fully charged" message pops up. I'll have to test that to see if it really does show a different time that quickly with a QC 2.0 adapter. Still, it's something that the Note 4 can see, so I'm thinking it's something that an App should be able to see. I briefly looked, but didn't find one. I was kind of hoping someone else had.
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Well i used my N5 cable that came with the charger and didn't even notice the difference, changed back to the moto one because i don't like the glossy look on the LG one.
By any chance you tried using your cable in your car?? Did it charged?? I tried to use mine in my car and didn't work, I got a 2014 corolla maybe it's because of the small battery in the car, I really dunno. It's weird.
Yes I too would like to know what charges and cords work correctly...
TheSopranos16 said:
I would suggest just plugging it into a known working quickcharge 2.0 charger, like the one that came with the phone. Wait 1 min until it shows the time until full. Then switch to your new charger, wait a min, and compare the time remaining until full.
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UPDATE: Okay, this worked... sort of. Well, it definitely worked, but it wasn't quite so simple. My phone was at about 71% charge, and I put it on the Moto Turbo Charger. A minute later, it said it had about 25 minutes remaining for a full charge. I removed it, and placed it on my Nexus 7 charger (which, incidentally, is only a 1.2A charger, but it proved the point). It took over 5 minutes to show the "charge complete in..." message, in which it indicated it would take over two hours. I guess, you could consider the extended wait time a sign, but something NOT happening is always a really bad way to prove something. Still, once it DID show, 25m vs 2h is definitely a good measure.
The weird thing is... it took about 5 minutes to show that message on the 1.2A charger, during which, the charge increased from 71% to 74%. Assuming a similar 3% increase every 5 minutes, it should reach its full charge in about 45 minutes, not the two hours it stated. Since this was only a 1.2A charger, a 2A charger could do it in almost half that time, or about the 25 minutes that was initially reported. Still, I was at 71%, and at that level, the Turbo Charger may not shift into 9V or 12V modes, so I guess that seemed about right.
I'd still like to see an app that could tell me instantly or, at least, within a few seconds, but this is definitely an alternative. Although, you still really need to test it while the battery is pretty low, but at least it stops the necessity to time a full charge.
smoke this app over:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ccc71.bmw.pro
Been using it since my moto xoom days (2011). bullet proof.
marctronixx said:
smoke this app over:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ccc71.bmw.pro
Been using it since my moto xoom days (2011). bullet proof.
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Great app. I use the free version just to check battery flow: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ccc71.bmw
Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk
TheSopranos16 said:
I noticed this too. My wife's Note 4 shows a message indicating that its charging via fast charger (aka quickcharge 2.0).
For our phone, I would suggest just plugging it into a known working quickcharge 2.0 charger, like the one that came with the phone. Wait 1 min until it shows the time until full. Then switch to your new charger, wait a min, and compare the time remaining until full. If they are close to the same, then your good to go. At least this would save you having to fully discharge and time the recharge...
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You could monitor the charger output with a USB voltage and current meter. For regular charging the adapter output will stay at ~5 V. For Quick Charge 2.0 the adapter output voltage level will go to ~9 V. Just make sure that the USB power meter supports at least up to 9 V (better 13 V) and 2 A. It also needs to have the data lines. Here's one that would work (supports up to 10 V and up to 3 A): http://goo.gl/3OoD3D
Cheers.
Op, just look at the charger specs, by law the wallwart should have a power rating blurb printed on it. Quick charge 2.0 will have variable voltage as well as amperage. 1.0 will only crank the amperage, but not the voltage
Skripka said:
Op, just look at the charger specs, by law the wallwart should have a power rating blurb printed on it. Quick charge 2.0 will have variable voltage as well as amperage. 1.0 will only crank the amperage, but not the voltage
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Alas, car chargers... not so much.
i use and watch the current widget. the nexus 6 default charger has nearly 2450mV coming in at a certain point of its charging cycle! no other charger will do that for you, i dont think.
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the current widget https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.manor.currentwidget
op brings up a very good point that i didnt realize before. on my note 4, when you plug in the nexus 6 moto turbo charger or any other quick charge 2.0 charger a window pops up explaining adaptive fast charging. you can dismiss it and make it never show up again. you also get an "adaptive fast charger connected" notification in the notification bar. these are very good things. on nexus 6? nothing...
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Alas, car chargers... not so much.
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Are there any quick charge 2.0 car chargers? I'd thing you simply hit the power ceiling of the cigarette lighter before getting close.
Skripka said:
Are there any quick charge 2.0 car chargers? I'd thing you simply hit the power ceiling of the cigarette lighter before getting close.
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yes
http://www.verizonwireless.com/acce...er-with-fast-charge-technology-for-micro-usb/
Skripka said:
Are there any quick charge 2.0 car chargers? I'd thing you simply hit the power ceiling of the cigarette lighter before getting close.
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Actually, most vehicle power outlets have a 10A or 20A fuse (cigarette lighters tend to be on the lower end, while power outlets tend to be on the upper end), and operate at 12V. Even at the lower 10A range, that's 120W of power. Traditional USB Car adapters step that down to 5V at up to 2A, or about 10W of power. The QC. 2.0 standard allows for 3A at 5V, 9V, or 12V, for a maximum of 15W, 27W, or 36W respectively. That's well below what your car can handle. Not to mention that none of the existing adapters even come close to that amperage. Most that I've seen only run at 5V or 9V, at 1.67A. That only 15W at 9V.
So... to answer your question. Yes, QC 2.0 vehicle adapters exist (check out Amazon), and no, they won't even come close to hitting the power ceiling of your car's cigarette lighter / power outlet.
Ooh! I like that Verizon car adapter. That LED at the connector would really come in handy! Thanks, @indianajonze!
stbxxl said:
You could monitor the charger output with a USB voltage and current meter. For regular charging the adapter output will stay at ~5 V. For Quick Charge 2.0 the adapter output voltage level will go to ~9 V. Just make sure that the USB power meter supports at least up to 9 V (better 13 V) and 2 A. It also needs to have the data lines. Here's one that would work (supports up to 10 V and up to 3 A): http://goo.gl/3OoD3D
Cheers.
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You can also use an AC meter such as Kill a Watt
http://www.p3international.com/products/p4400.html
Which might be more useful to have around the house. You should see the charger drawing about 5W for standard 1A USB charger, 10W for 2A and up to 14-15W for turbo. The battery widgets others have mentioned work great too.
Many people looking for a Power Bank which has Fast charging for there phones,
I found these & if there is any other Please do post links:
~ This has * Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0 *
http://www.incipio.com/ces-power/quick-charge-portable-backup-battery-6000-mah.html
~ This has * Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0 *
http://ape-battery.en.alibaba.com/p...comm_Quick_Charge_2_0_power_bank_MP5200Q.html
~ Wonder if this New Samsung Battery will have a Fast charge
http://www.sammobile.com/2015/03/02...-pack-and-new-colors-for-level-on-headphones/
~ I got this see it on YouTube VERY GOOD
iWalk Extreme TRIO 10000 Ultra-Slim Backup Battery Power Bank with LCD Display
http://www.iwalk.net/EN/battery/universal/UBO10000.html
~ This one is very different 1st of its kind i have seen
comes with a option of SD card slot, so it works as a OTG USB in 2 sizes 6000 & 8200mAh
http://www.mymili.com/Product.aspx?id=46&pid=3
~ New Style - PoP’n 2 Charger - Smart Phone & Tablet
http://www.shop.xpalpower.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=69&product_id=493#1432173854
~ BRAVEN BRV-BANK Smart, Ultra-Rugged
http://www.braven.com/outdoor-serie...-rugged-portable-backup-battery-6000-mah.html
~ Advanced power lock technology with standby time up to 6 months after fully charged.
Built in Micro Usb wire & can use the battery as a Stand
Vivis™ Knight V2 10500mAh Dual USB Portable Charger
http://www.amazon.com/Vivis-trade-K...vis™+Knight&tag=androidcentral00-20&m1k=vb_ac
~ Nice but has slow charge
PhoneSuit Flex Pocket Charger DC OUT: 5V @ 1A
Small size & Charge your Flex and Smartphone at the same time
http://www.phonesuit.com/phonesuit-flex-pocket-charger-android-smartphones
~ Good part is it claims 3A output
Power Core Ultra DC OUT: 5V @ 3A
With our Quick-Charge technology you can power your devices at the fastest rate possible, up to 3.0 Amp.
PhoneSuit Power Core Universal Battery Pack Series
~ I found this which is nice, cos it charges the 10000mAh powerbank in 95min
which is very useful and did not find other Power bank like this:
Ultrapak Fast-Charging Batteries - Products | uNu
~ Good brand & has 2.4A output
Mophie powerstation plus 2.4amp out
atleast get Up to 3x Battery
http://www.mophie.com/shop/powerstation-plus-apple-products-smartphones-tablets
~ Something different
Lepow ADD Detachable Power Bank
http://www.lepowglobal.com/products/add/
~ Coming soon -
ZAP&GO charger
https://www.zapandgocharger.com/
* * * Also want to suggest some other Stuff * * *
Xpower 2.4A Aluminium Alloy Micro USB Cable
http://www.agrade.com.hk/index.php/...inium-alloy-micro-usb-cable.html?options=cart
can also find it on Ebay
Smart & Secure Fast-Charge USB Cable and Adapter
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/andyfei/smart-and-secure-fast-charge-usb-cable-and-adapter
K’isauve is a battery, SSD, cable in one
http://www.pkparis.com/en/prods/kisauve/
Mu Tablet White 2.4amp out
http://www.themu.co.uk/pages/mu-tablet
CHOETECH 6 Port 60W Multi USB Charger with two dedicated Quick Charge 2.0 Ports Charger with Qualcomm Technology
http://www.choetech.com/choetech-multi-6-ports-usb-charger-quick-charge-2/
Thanks for compiling this. I emailed Anker about the Astro Pro2 ad unfortunately it does not support Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0. They said that PowerIQ is different and doesn't charge as fast. I think the only ones that will do Fast Charge are ones certified as such.
That being said, I'm in for the Aukey.
I've been looking to buy the Aukey but its unavailable from Amazon right now
is the usb cable has to be different as well? couldnt be a normal usb cable to do fast charging??
marcochapita said:
is the usb cable has to be different as well? couldnt be a normal usb cable to do fast charging??
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i don't believe the wire has have anything to do with it.
which is faster, 9v 1.67 amps or 5v 2 amps? also, anyone come across a powerbank that has wireless charging AND fast charging?
one question that it seams i dont find in numerous searches i did, does the wall adapter from samsung lights any green light when starts to give fast charging? because i did see something similar but maybe was not the samsung wall charger.
thanks in advanced.
marcochapita said:
one question that it seams i dont find in numerous searches i did, does the wall adapter from samsung lights any green light when starts to give fast charging? because i did see something similar but maybe was not the samsung wall charger.
thanks in advanced.
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The supplied Sammy charger no, Tenergy does have the blue (standard charge) green (quick charge) led, possibly others.
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I didn't want to quote the whole OP but you may want to edit this one out...
~ This has * Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0 *
http://ape-battery.en.alibaba.com/pr...k_MP5200Q.html
...that is per 3000 unit orders.
I have a Mophie, Powerbrick XL (12,000 ah) or something or other. Not cheap but it puts out 2.4X2.4 (two usb outputs) simultaneously. As I said not cheap but telling the ol lady her phone will have to die while she watches mine charge on the airplane is simply not a place I want to visit.
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is the usb cable has to be different as well? couldnt be a normal usb cable to do fast charging??
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I believe it has to be a "charge and sync" cable. I have some charge only cables that came with small micro-USB powered devices that fail to fast charge, but a generic USB cable does. The charge-only cables don't need to pass data because the devices they came with only use them for power so it looks like you have to have the data lines intact.
I also got some nice micro-USB cables at Best Buy that have nice LED lights in them. The Pt brand one with just an LED light at the micro-USB end was able to fast charge, but got extremely hot. The other brand (Modal) that had LED lights all along the length of it failed to fast charge. I'm guessing that either the drain of all of those LEDs or the fact that they are powered by a chip on one end of the cable means that they force the USB connection to only supply the basic power. Both are going back to BB.
I found a nice USB "charge and sync" cable at Walgreens that spring coils into a housing (the round housing has a regular USB plug coming out one side and a micro USB plug coming out the other end and if you pull on them they extend equally - pull again and they retract together to lie flush with the housing). That one does fast charge. It is replacing (along with a cheap 2.4amp car charger that was almost as fast as an QC2.0 charger) an old cheap retractable car charger that I used to use on trips that failed to even keep up with the power drain of navigation on the S6edge or my S5. The retractable cable is not listed on Walgreens web site and I found it behind the photo counter in a bin of USB chargers and cables.
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ilordvader said:
~ This has * Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0 *
http://www.incipio.com/ces-power/quick-charge-portable-backup-battery-6000-mah.html
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flarbear said:
I found a nice USB "charge and sync" cable at Walgreens that spring coils into a housing (the round housing has a regular USB plug coming out one side and a micro USB plug coming out the other end and if you pull on them they extend equally - pull again and they retract together to lie flush with the housing). That one does fast charge. It is replacing (along with a cheap 2.4amp car charger that was almost as fast as an QC2.0 charger).
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Can you post a picture of the cable? Is there a P/N or UPC that you can post? I checked my local Walgreens and no luck finding.
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Can you post a picture of the cable? Is there a P/N or UPC that you can post? I checked my local Walgreens and no luck finding.
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E-filliate brand Retractable Charge & Sync Cable for Micro-USB
Model #1311653 (?)
UPC: 8 26341 02003 9
The Walgreens web site shows other E-filliate brand cables in bright colors, but not this one. It was not in the case with the other phone accessories, it was behind the photo counter in a plastic bin full of an assortment of colorful chargers and cables that looked like the kind of thing you'd find on the counter next to a checkout stand. It's only 2 feet long fully extended, but it packs nicely. Unless you are looking for something that packs away nicely without tangling, I would think you might find some nicer and cheaper cables elsewhere, although this one was only $10.
I'd buy the Anker. Can't go wrong with them.
My own issue is I have too many of them!
Got the 15Ah on sale for $30 earlier this year.
That new one is 20Ah, ridiculous capacity!
But needed on excursions with ipads, etc.
Not a big deal if it doesn't charge as fast. I'm tempted to buy it and use galaxy charge current and compare rates with the included wall charger. Of course current doesn't mean squat if we don't know what rail it's on, i.e. 1.5A at 9V is better than 2V at 5V.
EDIT: How about LUDICROUS capacity for same price as the older version?
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00M3073L4...olid=13KBUZJF1OD23&coliid=IAR10H7EP4C2A&psc=1
marcochapita said:
is the usb cable has to be different as well? couldnt be a normal usb cable to do fast charging??
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I have 3 different quick chargers around and none of them charge at a different rate with the different cables I have laying around except for the long cables. I use them generically between the chargers, pc, various devices.
As to the long cables (3 plus meter) charge times slow down on the few I've tried. Not huge but noticeable.
krabman said:
I have 3 different quick chargers around and none of them charge at a different rate with the different cables I have laying around except for the long cables. I use them generically between the chargers, pc, various devices.
As to the long cables (3 plus meter) charge times slow down on the few I've tried. Not huge but noticeable.
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There are 2 things to note here. The phone will say whether or not it is fast charging and it will also show a prediction for how long it will take to get 100%. You can actually get a reasonably quick "time to full" estimate on a basic charger that supplies higher amperage, but I believe you will only get the "10 minutes for 4 hours" boost from an actual QC2.0 accessory that successfully negotiates the QC protocol with the charger. The QC2.0 protocol involves not just higher amperage, but higher voltage, which likely makes the difference for that boost.
So, when you say you have 3 different "quick chargers" around, do you mean "officially Qualcomm QuickCharge 2.0 accessories", or a charger that is higher amperage than normal and so uses the words quick and charge on the box.
Having said that, I've seen basic 2+ amp chargers that are fairly common where the phone predicts a total charge time to 100% that is very close to what I get on the adaptive charger or whenever the phone claims it is fast charging (only ever on an official QC2.0 accessory with the right cable). I think the only real difference is offering the initial boost of 4 hours for 10 minutes, but in the long run "actual QC 2.0" is not that much better than any high amperage charger for a full charge because the charge rate is not linear as the phone approaches 100%. This is the same reason why DC charging for EVs never lists the time to full because they'll get you to 50-80% in half an hour and then take another 2 hours to get you to 100%. The speed enabled by the high voltage is only an initial boost and matters little for a full charge.
The reason I would want an actual QC2.0 charger for the car or for an external battery pack is that I often jump in the car for a 10 minute trip when I'm getting low and it would be nice to get a significant charge during that time. With an external battery, having QC2.0 would mean less time having to keep the phone tethered to a brick. Otherwise, if you are only looking for a full charge then an official QC2.0 vs a high amperage charger isn't that big of a deal.
I'm an engineer. I have three qualcomm quick charge 2.0 chargers, one Oppo charger with their competing (and better ) technology, and uncounted random chargers from unknown past phones. Some more potent and some less. Yes, each of those qualcomm quick chargers will respond to the embedded controller on the phone and provide quick charging, the phone will note such when plugged in and notify to that effect. Yes, they make quick charge 2.0 car chargers and I also have one of those and yes it charges at the same rate as the 120 chargers in the house.
I'm a bit of a slut when it comes to these things.
That's great. Keep in mind that the only reason I asked is that there are plenty of packages out there that use the term "quick charge" in a generic sense and so I usually specify QC2.0 when I mean QC2.0 to differentiate.
But, back to the original question - you were indicating that all of the USB cables you have tried all seemed to charge at the same rate. I will reiterate that I have found micro USB cables that do not pass QC2.0 and the phone will back off to a nominal rate when they are used. Usually the cable is special in some way, for example:
two cables that I believe came with my Chromecast - they have one of those "ferrite core" style bulges in the wire (pictured below) and were only originally intended to provide minimal USB power to the Chromecast (no data)
a Modal LED lighted "charge and sync" cable from Best Buy - since the LEDs animate to show power flow, there are obviously some electronics in the plug/wire to sequence them, and whether or not that was the reason, they did in fact prevent QC2.0 from engaging (the phone did not show a "fast charging" status).
As such, I'd look for cables that include both "charge and sync" (most do) and I'd avoid anything active in the cable, like an LED light. Having said that, the Pt brand lighted cable (also from BB) that has just a solid white LED only at the micro USB end did seem to allow fast charging, but it got very hot so I didn't really like it in the end - but it does show that there are some non-passive USB cables that will still work with QC2.0.
Chromecast cable:
I went to a couple of Samsung shops here in Taiwan and they were out of those new chargers for fast charge. They were only selling the regular chargers from before. Salesmen also said he heard something about the new chargers causing damage to the smartphone (sensors). He was not sure he said but has heard about this issue. He could not confirm for sure said but he was pretty sure.
flarbear said:
E-filliate brand Retractable Charge & Sync Cable for Micro-USB
Model #1311653 (?)
UPC: 8 26341 02003 9
The Walgreens web site shows other E-filliate brand cables in bright colors, but not this one. It was not in the case with the other phone accessories, it was behind the photo counter in a plastic bin full of an assortment of colorful chargers and cables that looked like the kind of thing you'd find on the counter next to a checkout stand. It's only 2 feet long fully extended, but it packs nicely. Unless you are looking for something that packs away nicely without tangling, I would think you might find some nicer and cheaper cables elsewhere, although this one was only $10.
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Frys has a large selection of retractable micro USB cables. I picked up a 2-pack of 3 foot cables yesterday and the phone indicates "fast charging" on them:
http://www.frys.com/product/6630234
Longer than the Walgreens cable and cheaper for 2 of them, but the cables on the Walgreens model seem a little beefier (which is likely why they only fit 2' of cord in the same retractable package).
I bought the Anker without reading the description well enough. :silly: It arrived and is almost the size of a Tablet! I returned it. So, don't be "underachieving Rob Lowe" and carefully READ before you buy!
ilordvader said:
Many people looking for a Power Bank which has Fast charging for there phones,
I found these & if there is any other Please do post links:
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ShermCraig said:
I bought the Anker without reading the description well enough. :silly: It arrived and is almost the size of a Tablet! I returned it. So, don't be "underachieving Rob Lowe" and carefully READ before you buy!
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I got the Anker E6 and it's a beastly size, but it completely charged my S6, from 5%, in ONE HOUR! I'll deal with the weight!
It's not the weight - I want pocket sized.
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Has anyone had issues using Anker PowerIQ chargers with the Nexus 5X? I've purchased an Anker 2nd Gen Astro E4 13000mAh 2-Port (3A Output) and when connected to the Nexus 5X it keeps connecting and disconnecting. It does not appear to be a cable issue (my old 2A charger works fine through the same cable). Meanwhile the Anker charges the old Nexus 5 without any issue - it's just the Nexus 5X that seems to experience problems.
I'm wondering whether it's Anker's PowerIQ having trouble working out the correct power draw for the Nexus 5X. If anyone's had similar issues with PowerIQ or other chargers, I'd love to hear potential fixes or confirmation that I'll need to switch it out for something else.
I have encountered the exact same issue with the Anker Astro E4 battery. At first I figured it was the cheap Aliexpress USB-A to C cable I was using, but I think you're onto something about the PowerIQ not knowing how to negotiate with the 5X correctly. I contacted Anker Support on Twitter yesterday and was told to contact [email protected] about the issue. I haven't yet pursued that avenue, but I'll update once I have.
I don't think I have any issue with my PowerIQ non-quick charging 6 port desktop charger or 2-port battery park (15600 mah)
I have the same issue with my Nexus 5X. After I posted a negative review due to this on Amazon, Anker reached out to me and has shipped one of their 4 port chargers which they think will resolve the issue. We shall see...
It still could be a cable issue. The difference is that your Anker may contain smarter charging tech inside and it is self regulating what the cable is asking for (possibly 3A) when it cant really deliver that. With your other charger, it is possible it is blindly delivering an overcharge for its rated max and may brown out soon if not over time.
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It still could be a cable issue. The difference is that your Anker may contain smarter charging tech inside and it is self regulating what the cable is asking for (possibly 3A) when it cant really deliver that. With your other charger, it is possible it is blindly delivering an overcharge for its rated max and may brown out soon if not over time.
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In my case, I'm 99% certain it's not the cable, as I'm using an OEM / Google A->C cable.
Andeh23 said:
In my case, I'm 99% certain it's not the cable, as I'm using an OEM / Google A->C cable.
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Does fast charging display with that cable?
fosser2 said:
Does fast charging display with that cable?
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I honestly don't know, as I don't have an OEM type A wall charger to test it with. I would assume so, since it came from Google. I did receive Anker's 4 port car charger last night, but need to wait until this evening commute (once my battery drains) to see whether it works. Plugging it in this morning showed just "charging" when I was at 98%, but it wasn't cutting in and out like the 2 port one was.
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I honestly don't know, as I don't have an OEM type A wall charger to test it with. I would assume so, since it came from Google. I did receive Anker's 4 port car charger last night, but need to wait until this evening commute (once my battery drains) to see whether it works. Plugging it in this morning showed just "charging" when I was at 98%, but it wasn't cutting in and out like the 2 port one was.
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My OEM cable is on its way as well. If you get a chance to test it on a different charger later on, please post the results. I would love to see that OEM cable say "charging rapidly."
Followup: I tested the Anker 4 port charger with the OEM Google A->C cable, and it does register as "charging rapidly." Using Ampere, I measured 1340 mA / 4.08 V peak to it. I also tested my new Tronsmart charger (with built-in USB C cable), which measured 1710 mA / 3.903 V peak.
I have same disconnect issues with aukey quickcharge battery pack
After a little back and forth with Anker email support, they are sending me an Anker PowerCore+ 10050 USB-C Battery Pack as a replacement for the Astro E2 not charging the 5x correctly - at no charge! Very impressed. It's been shipped but I haven't received it yet - from what I can tell spec-wise it has native USB Type C and A ports, but I can't yet confirm if this can fast charge the 5x at the same output as the stock wall charger.
I'll report back once I've had time to test.
sounds like an combo issue of the cable and battery pack/charger.
have you guys seen the thread about a google engineer (benson leung) reviewing usb -c cables?
basically usb-c standard cables should have a resistor in them which the phone uses to detect if the charger is able to supply 3A or not. without this (most cables seem to not have this, including the oneplus one) the phone thinks it can draw 3A and tries to do so. this can result in damaging you charger as that is more than it can produce. but apparently it can also damage components in your phone as the current it thinks it is receiving is higher than the actual current being received.
The disconnection issue sounds like the charger has a protection mechanism and realizes the phone is trying to draw more power than it can provide, so it cuts off to prevent overloading.
I tried the PowerDrive 2 and it has the same isse where it charges for a few seconds, stops, then charges for a few seconds, etc. I emailed thier support but have not heard back.
I have the same issue with Aukey PA-12, tried two different cables. The charger works fine with my wife's quick charging phone.... I hope it is a kernel issue that can be fixed. The original Google charger works flawlessly.
This is something i haven't seen mentioned or confirmed in all the reviews i have read. I have read reviews of other xiaomi devices that said it was qc 3.0 enabled, but the charger that ships with the phone is not a quick charger and the user would have to buy their own to take advantage of this feature.
so does anyone know if the charger we receive with the mix is in fact a quick charger as the mi mix is on the devices that is qualcomm quick charge 3.0 enabled.
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This is something i haven't seen mentioned or confirmed in all the reviews i have read. I have read reviews of other xiaomi devices that said it was qc 3.0 enabled, but the charger that ships with the phone is not a quick charger and the user would have to buy their own to take advantage of this feature.
so does anyone know if the charger we receive with the mix is in fact a quick charger as the mi mix is on the devices that is qualcomm quick charge 3.0 enabled.
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Check features: http://www.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_mi_mix-8400.php
That site quoted 83% in 30mins, I am not getting that, not even close. I bought the anker USB C quick charge charger which suppose to be quick. I don't feel quick at all...
Anyone also bought charger that can comment on this?
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Check features: http://www.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_mi_mix-8400.php
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yes, as i posted i am well aware the phone is quick charge 3.0 capable. my question though is the charger that ships with the phone a quick charge charger. there are other xiaomi phones that are also quick charge but the user has to provide their own quick charger.
if i were to guess i do not think this charger is a quick charger based on my results compared to my nexus 6.
wu5262 said:
That site quoted 83% in 30mins, I am not getting that, not even close. I bought the anker USB C quick charge charger which suppose to be quick. I don't feel quick at all...
Anyone also bought charger that can comment on this?
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I got an Aukey QC3 5-Port Charger.
I'm trying to get my device empty right now (tough though as it lasts pretty long) and will test it afterwards.
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I compared the included charger with my Anker quick charge 3 charger using the Ampere app.
The given stats were marginally better with the included charger.
I'm not really sure what all the figures mean but they were there or there abouts the same, the Anker charger is Qualcom QC3 certified.
Not nearly getting the quoted charge times though with either charger.
At 53% it claimed 44 mins to 100%
Yes, it ships with a fast charger. It delivers:
5V - 2.5A (12,5W)
9V - 2A (18W)
12V - 1.5A (18W)
So yes, it's a QC2.0 fast charger.
I'm currently at 69% and on the normal charger it's 3 hours+, on the QC2.0 charger I have, it's 1.5 hours and it gave me the same for the included charger. Kind of disappointed that it's only 2.0.
after seeing how insane the battery life is on this phone i just went with the qi wireless charging usb C adapter and I have no plans on going back, works awesome.
knives of ice said:
after seeing how insane the battery life is on this phone i just went with the qi wireless charging usb C adapter and I have no plans on going back, works awesome.
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Which one? Link?
Thugsin313 said:
Which one? Link?
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https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01M11UT3V/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s02?ie=UTF8&psc=1
with a case you don't even know it is there.
Thx for the Link:good:
Yes BUT!!!... lol
knives of ice said:
after seeing how insane the battery life is on this phone i just went with the qi wireless charging usb C adapter and I have no plans on going back, works awesome.
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What I dislike, and you can't use is the Wireless Charging with your phone and case, and a metal plate stuck to the back of the phone. You see, I really like the various magnetic holders in the car (I have one that works with the CD Slot of the vehicle to mount the holder, another that is a little ball mount that sticks to any flat service). They use a thin metal plate to mount to the back of the phone case, and the magnetic is part of the phone mount that is in the vehicle. If you place the phone with the holder and the metal plate on the wireless charger base, it will overheat both the charging base and the phone.
I REALLY like the magnetic phone mount, and do like wireless charging but it a moot point if you have a mounting plate on the back of your phone or case.
I am using amperage and I own two qualcom version 2.0 chargers one from my Nexus 6, and one I bought on amazon. The OEM Nexus 6 draws about 1.6amps on charge, and the Anker 2.0 draws under 300 mAH. The computer 3.0 USB port from a desktop draws 370mAH to charge the phone.
I will probably invest in a true oem qualcom 3.0 charger.
Pretty cheap of Shomi to not include a 3.0 charger
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What I dislike, and you can't use is the Wireless Charging with your phone and case, and a metal plate stuck to the back of the phone. You see, I really like the various magnetic holders in the car (I have one that works with the CD Slot of the vehicle to mount the holder, another that is a little ball mount that sticks to any flat service). They use a thin metal plate to mount to the back of the phone case, and the magnetic is part of the phone mount that is in the vehicle. If you place the phone with the holder and the metal plate on the wireless charger base, it will overheat both the charging base and the phone.
I REALLY like the magnetic phone mount, and do like wireless charging but it a moot point if you have a mounting plate on the back of your phone or case.
I am using amperage and I own two qualcom version 2.0 chargers one from my Nexus 6, and one I bought on amazon. The OEM Nexus 6 draws about 1.6amps on charge, and the Anker 2.0 draws under 300 mAH. The computer 3.0 USB port from a desktop draws 370mAH to charge the phone.
I will probably invest in a true oem qualcom 3.0 charger.
Pretty cheap of Shomi to not include a 3.0 charger
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get a Pioneer Appradio that mirrors your phones screen and problem solved. now that i'm so used to it i can't imagine my phone's screen not being the screen of the head unit in my car everything is right there makes it so much easier
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I am using amperage and I own two qualcom version 2.0 chargers one from my Nexus 6, and one I bought on amazon. The OEM Nexus 6 draws about 1.6amps on charge, and the Anker 2.0 draws under 300 mAH. The computer 3.0 USB port from a desktop draws 370mAH to charge the phone.
I will probably invest in a true oem qualcom 3.0 charger.
Pretty cheap of Shomi to not include a 3.0 charger
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I'm revising my previous post, it seems that the provided charger may indeed be a QC 3.0.
I've been reading that if you use USB-c to USB-c cable instead of the provided USB-a to USB-c cable, you actually get charge rate.
I've also been reading up on the QC 3.0 vs 2.0. Both will max out at 18watts. But 3.0 has a variable voltage whereas 2.0 is fixed at 5V, 9V and 12V. You can see that in the below link, there's a nice table of Watts for each QC.
http://www.androidauthority.com/quick-charge-3-0-explained-643053/
However with USB-C to USB-C, it can charge at full 29Watts. That's a huge difference.
you can see that in the description provided by Anker here
https://www.amazon.com/Anker-Type-C-Delivery-Charger-PowerPort/dp/B01D8C6ULO
You can also see here in this device
https://www.amazon.com/Lumsing-Charge-Charger-Foldable-Macbook/dp/B01I1OIO4A
it says 48W of power, and allocates 19W for QC 3.0 which means the other Type-C port is allocated for 29Watts.
So I think I'm going to be looking for something with a direct USB-C port as a charger.
Certainly, this may be all for not if the Xiaomi Mi Mix is limited to 18W of input anyways.
I have the Anker USB-C to USB-C charger, my initial testing indicate that the original charger (China Plug) and my Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge charger (UK Plug) are capable of doing 23.8 Watts max, i tried to monitor the difference and what I noticed is the Mi Mix original charger seems to be adjusting the charging power more often (not really sure why and whether it's good). My Anker USB-C to USB-C went up to 28.9 Watts Max. All chargers seems to scale down their charging rate after battery reach 80%+ so I think the best way to test is to empty the better and start from 0%. I doubt I will be doing that test though as it's quite hard to empty battery on Mix and I am pretty happy with my Anker charger so don't think I will be using Stock one or my Samsung one.
Unless I go on holiday with multiple devices that still use old USB port, Anker USB-C to USB-C is my go to charger.
So I think what you confirmed was that the mix can take power at 29 watts.
That's good to know.
Just received this wireless charging receiver today that claims to do fast charge
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01LX0Y5CS/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
it does charge much faster, almost double of the one i posted originally in this thread. i'm getting a charge on it around 950ma which isn't too bad for wireless i don't think.
Is there an app I can use to see if this phone is quick charging ? I have a Google pixel charger USB c to USB c. Trying that out now .I can't really judge because this phone is at least 1000 mAh bigger than what I'm used to lol.
LaNsLyDe said:
Is there an app I can use to see if this phone is quick charging ? I have a Google pixel charger USB c to USB c. Trying that out now .I can't really judge because this phone is at least 1000 mAh bigger than what I'm used to lol.
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That's what I'm using too! I was at 24% battery, went to sleep for 4 hours with it charging, and I'm only at 74%. There has to be a way to know when we quick charge lol