I'm an experienced computer user in Windows and (X)Ubuntu, but some things I don't know I search online... but this problem I get only gets me somewhat upset by "Search Overload" (See some United States commercials).
## My computer setup ##
OS: dual-boot Windows XP; Xubuntu 10.04 LTS
Boot Loader: grub
In the partitions:
- Windows XP
- Xubuntu 10.04 LTS
- swap
- factory OEM partition
I need to reinstall Windows completely. I can either...
1. get that ISO of "The Windows 9x Project" burnt (I have an XP upgrade version),
2. borrow my friends OEM disk (I DO have a legit XP CD but it is only an Upgrade version ), or
3. try to get that special partition to install EXACTLY the way I want it to (most likely impossible)
Also, I've been trying to reinstall the grub bootloader (which originaly comes with my Xubuntu disk) manually, but it has been unsuccessful so far.
This will also be able to help me in case a Windows program rewrites the MBR (or I need to do this task again).
What I don't want to do unless it is the only possible way:
- Reinstall Xubuntu 10.04 LTS (plus install all of those updates and change Firefox... again!!!)
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Current Status:
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Will try to use the Windows 9x Project .iso and use my legit XP upgrade CD+key
- will take a lot of time to accomplish, IF successful
- I hope that Windows ME will work with my system -_-'
"I'm an experienced computer user in Windows and (X)Ubuntu"
I lol'd a little.
I don't get what you're asking for. Advice on loading grub? Telling you that XP needs to die as an outdated OS? Ubuntu should be illegal under computer misuse legislation?
You state your current progress and methods to get where you're going, there is no "where now?"question to your post.
Have you considered virtualisation as an alternative to your lack of understanding dealing? This way you can still have the "I'm cool I run ubuntu", without having to try and understand it.
For the record, ubuntu is an abomination and should never have been made. Debian is good, don't mess with perfection.
If this reply succeeds in posting, lock this post due to inactivity (my 100G HDD is too small for dual-booting WinXP & Xubuntu, imo)
EDIT: I totally know Ubuntu sucks (one example: poorly made packages require only one type of sound interface -- read: pulseaudio)
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hi experts i hope you are fine i have little problem with my PC. truthfully i used to change operating system on my laptop like 3 time and not long ago my operating system corrupted (windows8) when i tried to install another operating system it wont boot. actually i cant see a hard drive when it comes to install operating system . tried to change the harddrive but nothing, i did a little research about secure boot in BIOS but when i go to bios i dont see any secure boot wich prevent operating system to install
samsung laptop core i5
Have you tried booting from a USB drive with Portable Windows loaded onto it?
Try that ^^^
Also, a Linux LiveCD to see if that sees your hard drive
Also, try plugging in a RAW hard drive (without formating, or any file system), W8 hates MBR and wants you to use GPT partition style. Also, if you have no idea what all of that means, bring it to a pro.
Hi guys,
I've an old HP Touchpad running with CyanogenMod 9 from 2012. I'll upgrade this device to a modern Android 6.0 ROM. What I've found so far:
Backup old ROM, all files, … (all files on the virtual sd-card will be lost)
Fully charge the battery before doing any ROM modifications.
Because Android 4.0 is too old, it must be uninstalled first.
I'll do this on Xubuntu 14.04, where do I get a secure copy of the Novacom stuff for 64bit? Found it: Wayback Machine
I'll need the ACMEUninstaller (source?), or is TPToolbox the new way to go? (I don't want to lose my webOS partition!)
I'll lose Moboot and CWM-Recovery too, after using any uninstall method, right?
Now it's time for a fresh Android 6.0 installation! (via TPToolbox?) Pick a ROM (Evervolv?), recovery (traditional CWM), a GApps package and let's start the party…
Anything I've missed or misunderstood? I'm not a Linux-noob, but I'm not familiar with the current methods to flash Android on this device, especially without using Windows.
Regards,
Christian
I would get rid of the WebOS and go completely with Android.
Start with Sullin's Touchpad Toolbox v42 as you mentioned.
Setup on win7/64 is pretty painless (YMMV)...
This utility makes it so easy to flash and maintain these tablets. Start with the A6 Battery firmware flash.
And then you have a plethora of ROMs to chose from. However the newer versions require a different
partitioning scheme, and that's the main factor in ditching WebOS.
_D.
If I were to get rid of WebOS, whats the easiest way to back it up incase I want it back at some point?
douglasdtlltd said:
If I were to get rid of WebOS, whats the easiest way to back it up incase I want it back at some point?
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doug - i'm watching with interest as i'm at the same point as you. Although I've already put JCSullins' TP Toolbox on ( that was super easy )
A point - I have not read anywhere bar your post that it's necessary to uninstall Android 4 before flashing a new ROM.
My main research point now is how to adjust partition sizes as I expect I have the same as you:
128MB A2SD,
1.48GB internal storage
394MB system
197MB cache
cable_guy said:
doug - i'm watching with interest as i'm at the same point as you. Although I've already put JCSullins' TP Toolbox on ( that was super easy )
A point - I have not read anywhere bar your post that it's necessary to uninstall Android 4 before flashing a new ROM.
My main research point now is how to adjust partition sizes as I expect I have the same as you:
128MB A2SD,
1.48GB internal storage
394MB system
197MB cache
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I'm at this point too, did you manage to update the tab to a 6.0 or 7.0 rom and if so what steps did you take? Thanks
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gingerdude said:
I'm at this point too, did you manage to update the tab to a 6.0 or 7.0 rom and if so what steps did you take? Thanks
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I've now have (5) of these in use. (2) are still on Sullins 4.4.4, the other three I've been dinking around with Evervolv (Flintman's) 7.x
I'm preparing this weekend to make one of the three my daily driver, replacing the 4.4.4 that is currently serving that role.
One is going to be put to use for a Digital Read Out (DRO) on my Bridgeport Mill.
And my Better Half would like one...
I would, as stated above just take the plunge and jump to 7.x
Here's the Thread in the Dev's Section....
And for a definitive guide go - HERE - Roland has posted a very good go-by.
_Dan
I am having trouble with this.
I have tried the universal installer which correctly identifies it as 64bit system. But it fails at download stage, I guess because the file is no longer available where the installer is expecting it.
So then I tried running "NovacomInstaller_x64.msi" by double clicking it, which installs novacomd in my add/remove programs so it seemed to work. But when I run "tptb_v42_win.bat" it says
Code:
Setting Palm path ...
Checking novacom service ...
Loading TPToolbox ...
unable to find device
.
Cannot connect to Touchpad.
Make sure Touchpad is connected with USB cable.
Make sure Touchpad is in webOS Recovery (bootie) mode
(where big USB symbol shows on Touchpad screen)
.
Press any key to continue . . .
The touchpad is definitely on the Web OS recovery screen and connected via USD so I assume it must be to do with drivers not installing properly. Any advice on how I can check drivers?
thanks,
James
jamesking420 said:
I am having trouble with this.
I have tried the universal installer which correctly identifies it as 64bit system. But it fails at download stage, I guess because the file is no longer available where the installer is expecting it.
So then I tried running "NovacomInstaller_x64.msi" by double clicking it, which installs novacomd in my add/remove programs so it seemed to work. But when I run "tptb_v42_win.bat" it says
Code:
Setting Palm path ...
Checking novacom service ...
Loading TPToolbox ...
unable to find device
.
Cannot connect to Touchpad.
Make sure Touchpad is connected with USB cable.
Make sure Touchpad is in webOS Recovery (bootie) mode
(where big USB symbol shows on Touchpad screen)
.
Press any key to continue . . .
The touchpad is definitely on the Web OS recovery screen and connected via USD so I assume it must be to do with drivers not installing properly. Any advice on how I can check drivers?
thanks,
James
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You can following this thread ( I have you start at post 405 ) where another user called @smithylovestouchpad had the same issue with novacom not connecting to the server, and he was able to use a backup PC and it worked....
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=80016590&postcount=405
But that being said, your in luck James, because a "regular user" by his own admission, @HP_TOUCHPAD will be posting very soon what he likes to call "HP_Touchpad_Novacom_Recovery_Android", and with this, any user can perform the following tasks with one click on any computer:
1) Load the ToolBox (flash the A6 Firmware)
2) Fix /boot using Create_Boot ( If the Bermuda Triangle shows up ) or the Tablet can not boot.
3) Automatic_Wipe_All_and_Create_Android_with_Swap ( Total Data Reset )
4) If the Tablet needs to be set up only for Android.
5) Change the Ramdisk, make all setting modifications and create a Custom boot file.
HP_TOUCHPAD once said,
If the user ever needs help, the tablet can be setup "completely" by another user, even remotely running Automatic_Wipe to Android, all they need is an internet connection.
The Novacom Driver and Android ADB Shell will be permanent and fully working all the time regardless of the PC being used.
DoubleStuff said:
You can following this thread ( I have you start at post 405 ) where another user called @smithylovestouchpad had the same issue with novacom not connecting to the server, and he was able to use a backup PC and it worked....
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=80016590&postcount=405
But that being said, your in luck James, because a "regular user" by his own admission, @HP_TOUCHPAD will be posting very soon what he likes to call "HP_Touchpad_Novacom_Recovery_Android", and with this, any user can perform the following tasks with one click on any computer:
1) Load the ToolBox (flash the A6 Firmware)
2) Fix /boot using Create_Boot ( If the Bermuda Triangle shows up ) or the Tablet can not boot.
3) Automatic_Wipe_All_and_Create_Android_with_Swap ( Total Data Reset )
4) If the Tablet needs to be set up only for Android.
5) Change the Ramdisk, make all setting modifications and create a Custom boot file.
HP_TOUCHPAD once said,
If the user ever needs help, the tablet can be setup "completely" by another user, even remotely running Automatic_Wipe to Android, all they need is an internet connection.
The Novacom Driver and Android ADB Shell will be permanent and fully working all the time regardless of the PC being used.
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Thank you for your help. In the end a combination of installing and reinstalling novacom, restarting, and then plugging in the touchpad to a different USB port finally sorted it out! Then I used your tool to get a ROM etc on there.
Do you have any particular recommendation for a smooth ROM? Doesn't have to be latest version of Android, just something that runs super snooth!
I've installed Dirty Unicrorn Pi but it's a bit laggy. It'll be fine to use fit it's intended purpose, but anything that improves on this would be appreciated.
Cheers,
James
jamesking420 said:
Thank you for your help. In the end a combination of installing and reinstalling novacom, restarting, and then plugging in the touchpad to a different USB port finally sorted it out! Then I used your tool to get a ROM etc on there.
Do you have any particular recommendation for a smooth ROM? Doesn't have to be latest version of Android, just something that runs super snooth!
I've installed Dirty Unicrorn Pi but it's a bit laggy. It'll be fine to use fit it's intended purpose, but anything that improves on this would be appreciated.
Cheers,
James
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I am curious to what install process you have used to install the Dirty Unicorn Pie? Please respond, its nice to see what install processes some users are using....like what speed of Universal swap settings did you install?, did you use ROM reducer?
In the meantime since you have Novacom and TPTB installed try this process to install maybe Nougat, Oreo or Pie ( with /swap ) or KitKat or Lollipop. Once you read the OP it will direct you to the key Android versions to install on HP_TOUCHPAD's page.
I currently use KitKat and I am fine with that.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/hp...-guide-alternative-method-to-install-t3575861
Hi,
Thanks again for the advice.
I booted in to TPToolbox
Ran Complete Data Reset
Then rebooted to WebOS recovery.
Ran the ."TPTB_WipeAll_TWRP_v02_win.bat" which ended up with me in TWRP.
Then I installed ROM, reducer, gapps, optimiser, recovery, and super user via TWRP and it all raun when rebooted.
Now - another question - my second touchpad - It is currently sitting in the Touchpad toolbox screen. My PC has just broken (RAM corruption), I only have a Raspberry Pi which is not compatible with novacom drivers.
I've already ran "Complete Data Reset" but wasn't able to run the "TPTB_WipeAll_TWRP_v02_win.bat" before my windows PC got Blue Screen of Death!
So now I can copy zips to my touchpad and potentially install android, gapps, recovery using the tool. Then I figured I'd go in to recovery and flash "Automatic_Wipe_All_and_Create_Android_with_Swap_Partition" and start again.
The problem I have is I cannot flash android/recovery/gapps with TP Toolbox as I need a set of three compatible files.. Can anyone point me to a set of such files? Or another way of doing this from TP Toolbox - remember - I can't currently run anything on a PC!
This wouldn't be desperately urgent if it weren't for the fact that my mum wants to use these devices as digital photoframes on Thursday (my grandads funeral!).
Any help would be appreciated.
Currently I have
du_tenderloin-v13.0-20190328-1316-RC.zip
FLINTMAN-TWRP-touch-data_media-SELINUX-2.8.3.0-12-23-14.zip
I downloaded a zip from Open Gapps but TP Toolbox says its not compatible and will not flash.
jamesking420 said:
Hi,
Thanks again for the advice.
I booted in to TPToolbox
Ran Complete Data Reset
You don't have to do a Complete Data Reset anymore with the TPToolbox if your going to run TPTB_WireAll_TWRP_02_win.bat or flash Automatic_Wipe_All_and_Create_Android_with_Swap_Partition, it almost seems like your combining three different methods of installs, because TPTB_WipeAll_TWRP_v02_win.bat actually flashes Automatic_Wipe_All_and_Create_Android_with_Swap_Partition in the background and that actually does a complete data reset and creates a 500 Mb swap partition, and re-creates the system, cache, media and data partitions with sizes of 2200 Mb, 200 Mb, 500 Mb, and "rest of memory" respectively, also automatically installs version 3.2.1-0 of TWRP which is required for the other ZIPs.
Only use TPToolbox to flash A6 firmware, or look at partition sizes.
Then rebooted to WebOS recovery.
Ran the ."TPTB_WipeAll_TWRP_v02_win.bat" which ended up with me in TWRP.
Then I installed ROM, reducer, gapps, optimiser, recovery, and super user via TWRP and it all raun when rebooted.
Now - another question - my second touchpad - It is currently sitting in the Touchpad toolbox screen. My PC has just broken (RAM corruption), I only have a Raspberry Pi which is not compatible with novacom drivers.
I've already ran "Complete Data Reset" but wasn't able to run the "TPTB_WipeAll_TWRP_v02_win.bat" before my windows PC got Blue Screen of Death!
So now I can copy zips to my touchpad and potentially install android, gapps, recovery using the tool. Then I figured I'd go in to recovery and flash "Automatic_Wipe_All_and_Create_Android_with_Swap_Partition" and start again.
How are you copying zips to your touchpad if your PC does not work? Once you
flashed Automatic_Wipe_All_and_Create_Android_with_Swap_Partition it should get you to a
TWRP Recovery install screen, and you can then flash your zips, no need to use TPToolbox as I said before. Essentially TPToolbox is an "old school" method now. And flashing from TWRP Recovery you don't need compatible zips, that is a bug of TP Toolbox that has not been fixed.
The problem I have is I cannot flash android/recovery/gapps with TP Toolbox as I need a set of three compatible files.. Can anyone point me to a set of such files? Or another way of doing this from TP Toolbox - remember - I can't currently run anything on a PC!
I am curious, even if we point you to a set of such files, how are you going to copy them from a broken PC?, and see above for another way of doing this than from TPToolbox, if you can get into TWRP recovery and have zips on your Touchpad your all set.
This wouldn't be desperately urgent if it weren't for the fact that my mum wants to use these devices as digital photoframes on Thursday (my grandads funeral!).
Any help would be appreciated.
Currently I have
du_tenderloin-v13.0-20190328-1316-RC.zip
FLINTMAN-TWRP-touch-data_media-SELINUX-2.8.3.0-12-23-14.zip
I downloaded a zip from Open Gapps but TP Toolbox says its not compatible and will not flash.
Your PIE version above is the latest version, good. But the TWRP 2.8.3 version above is "old school" we are currently at this version FLINTMAN-TWRP-3.2.1-0-03-15-2018, and like I said above the "Wipe All" methods automatically install this latest TWRP version, so no need to flash an "old school" TWRP's afterwords.
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I made comments above in blue. Here is my summary.
Because your PC broke, like you said "blue screen of death, RAM corruption". This is the very reason that @HP_TOUCHPAD is thinking "outside the box" trying to create an environment that users will not be dependent on a PC anymore. He is in the process of creating this environment, but lets give him time. For by his own admission he is just a regular user, he is learning, experimenting, creating and testing. He is also documenting his findings for all of us to read, learn and apply. So let us do our due diligence and do the best we can.
I have a raspberry pi computer I can use that I can copy files to/from with but I cannot install novacom drivers on it as they are not compatible, as far as I'm aware.
I think I might have found a suitable grouping of ROM/gapps/recovery I can flash with tptoolbox - literally trying again now
jamesking420 said:
I have a raspberry pi computer I can use that I can copy files to/from with but I cannot install novacom drivers on it as they are not compatible, as far as I'm aware.
I think I might have found a suitable grouping of ROM/gapps/recovery I can flash with tptoolbox - literally trying again now
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This appears to be working to install a KK ROM so I will see if it comes up and I can then run the various flashes.
PS - yes - I did think that running Complete Data Reset and the "TPTB_WipeAll_TWRP_v02_win" was probably unecessary but I'd already run Complete Data Reset before I realised that it probably was overkill. Since this process worked I decided to do it again on the second touchpad, but the Windows PC died before I got the chance. But I had already run the process to load TPToolbox on to the tablet. So I'm now flashing TWRP v2.8.3.0 (data media), a KK ROM, and some KK compatible GApps using TPToolbox.
I hope that after that I can use the recovery I have loaded to install a new ROM, Rom Reducer, SU, Optimiser, GApps, and a more recent Recovery.
jamesking420 said:
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My PC has just broken (RAM corruption), I only have a Raspberry Pi which is not compatible with novacom drivers.
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I learn something new everyday, I just googled Raspberry Pi and its some sort of tiny, dual-display, desktop computer. At first I thought it was some sort of "Rogue ROM", I guess we can always learn something new everyday, like last month I learned to play Run Race 3d and I am not even a gamer.
And yesterday I wrote a program in a UNIX language called "AWK"
Yep it worked - so I then was in recovery on the device and I ran the Wipe all zip and then I flashed ROM, Optimiser, Reducer, Gapps, SU, recovery (again?!) and now it looks like it is loading in to Dirty Unicorn Pi.
I will have a play with it on the the max MHz optimiser kernel and then see if I want to stick with this or move on to an older/less system intensive ROM.
Thank you for your help!
jamesking420 said:
Yep it worked - so I then was in recovery on the device and I ran the Wipe all zip and then I flashed ROM, Optimiser, Reducer, Gapps, SU, recovery (again?!) and now it looks like it is loading in to Dirty Unicorn Pi.
I will have a play with it on the the max MHz optimiser kernel and then see if I want to stick with this or move on to an older/less system intensive ROM.
Thank you for your help!
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As per your comment recovery ( again?! ), only flash recovery if you want a different version than what the Wipe all zip flashes ( currently flashes TWRP 3.2.1 ), lets say in the future nobody is updating the Wipe all zip, and it still flashes TWRP 3.2.1, but you see a newer version of TWRP 4.1 compatible with the touchpad, then you can flash that at the tail end, or if your fond of an older version like TWPR 2.8, same thing.
Thanks - yes - I want sure if Wipe all Zip was flashing or just into TWRP so I flashed it again just to be on the safe side. Because it was called wioe ask I thought maybe it wasn't actually flashing anything new, just wiping and booting.
Anyway, thanks for your help it was very useful.
jamesking420 said:
Yep it worked - so I then was in recovery on the device and I ran the Wipe all zip and then I flashed ROM, Optimiser, Reducer, Gapps, SU, recovery (again?!) and now it looks like it is loading in to Dirty Unicorn Pi.
I will have a play with it on the the max MHz optimiser kernel and then see if I want to stick with this or move on to an older/less system intensive ROM.
Thank you for your help!
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The HP Touchpad Novacom Repair Android guide:
Click HERE for the Guide and File
A live Linux CD, just boot it from any PC, no installation is need it and have full control of the Tablet for ever !
Thanks for posting this, I'm sure it will be useful for many people.
Unfortunately on the way home from the funeral I left the two touchpads on top of the car as I was putting my kids in their car seats. They feel off at a roundabout which I imagine caused some damage. We turned around and went back for then and someone has nicked them! Ah well!
At 8 years old and costing less than £100 each they'd had a good innings.
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jamesking420 said:
Thanks for posting this, I'm sure it will be useful for many people.
Unfortunately on the way home from the funeral I left the two touchpads on top of the car as I was putting my kids in their car seats. They feel off at a roundabout which I imagine caused some damage. We turned around and went back for then and someone has nicked them! Ah well!
At 8 years old and costing less than £100 each they'd had a good innings.
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That is very unfortunate, but there is nothing to worry. The Tablets can be found for $10 anywhere and you maybe surprise to find in a dumpster somewhere.
But it can be revive to its full working conditions and all the files are posted on here, it only takes a click and is done!
Hello! So, read the title. I have that issue. Help anyone, please?
The laptop is a Dell Inspiron 3501 with Windows 11 and Secure Boot Disabled (just in case it helped with the issue) if the info helps.
Calling all mind readers, psychics, et al - where's my keys?!?!
Samuel the Techno Kid said:
Hello! So, read the title. I have that issue. Help anyone, please?
The laptop is a Dell Inspiron 3501 with Windows 11 and Secure Boot Disabled (just in case it helped with the issue) if the info helps.
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I don't have experience in Win (11, 10 nor previous ones - last touched was in 2001) but if you want to install a Linux distro (anyone!) on a strict win/laptop bundle (if course probably you go to loose warranty.... be careful) i can suggest the follow as first tests steps:
1) simplify the firmware to not use UEFI
2) be sure to have the firmware set on FAT/DOS legacy settings
3) start the laptop with the live Linux distro of your choice *in legacy / DOS mode* NOT in UEFI mode (i recommend an ArchLinux based like Manjaro i.e. very solid and installation friendly)
4) during the installation process, choose to completely reformat the disk(s) in ext4 type fs
5) follow the procedure installing the bootloader on the same disk (if you have at least 8 Gb of ram you can avoid to have a swap partition and you can ever have it after the installation managing it in memory or on the disk - follow wiki for that.
6) reboot.
7) enjoy a pure GNU/Linux Box with legacy (always working) partitioning.
After this will be successful you can experimenting the UEFI mode, eventually.
P.S. This is the simplest method. Cause to complicate things is always easy and dangerous. Follow the "KISS" ArchLinux and derivates as Manjaro principle (Keep It Simple Stupid).
Tetractys said:
I don't have experience in Win (11, 10 nor previous ones - last touched was in 2001) but if you want to install a Linux distro (anyone!) on a strict win/laptop bundle (if course probably you go to loose warranty.... be careful) i can suggest the follow as first tests steps:
1) simplify the firmware to not use UEFI
2) be sure to have the firmware set on FAT/DOS legacy settings
3) start the laptop with the live Linux distro of your choice *in legacy / DOS mode* NOT in UEFI mode (i recommend an ArchLinux based like Manjaro i.e. very solid and installation friendly)
4) during the installation process, choose to completely reformat the disk(s) in ext4 type fs
5) follow the procedure installing the bootloader on the same disk (if you have at least 8 Gb of ram you can avoid to have a swap partition and you can ever have it after the installation managing it in memory or on the disk - follow wiki for that.
6) reboot.
7) enjoy a pure GNU/Linux Box with legacy (always working) partitioning.
After this will be successful you can experimenting the UEFI mode, eventually.
P.S. This is the simplest method. Cause to complicate things is always easy and dangerous. Follow the "KISS" ArchLinux and derivates as Manjaro principle (Keep It Simple Stupid).
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Why on earth switch off UEFI? I use it since like 8 years; never had any problems with it.
Keule-Tm said:
Why on earth switch off UEFI? I use it since like 8 years; never had any problems with it.
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Exactly, the best way to boot is UEFI