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Hi guys,
I need a Tablet (with full windows) for the university (actually my girlfriend, I've got an x230t), its also thought to replace a laptop, so it should be able to stream HD videos flawlessly.
For the handwriting in the university I definitely need a digitizer. I looked at the Dell Venue 11 Pro, the Lenovo ThinkPad Tablet 2 and the Surface Pro.
Well, the Dell was my favorite so far, but it seems to have big problems with it's pen. Even the revision of the pen seems to write very shakey and wobbly. It has that Synaptic digitizer, so you need a battery in the Pen .... wich is quite annoying.
The ThinkPad Tablet 2's hardware is not so great...... but therefor it has a Wacom digitizer, which is extremely good, very precise and you can use all the wacom pens and dont need a battery.... but the hardware, not so great cpu, crappy gpu .... since it has full win8 thats not very good for future perspectives.
the surface pro, well .... heard no complaints or con arguments .... but the battery life .... 3-4h is just far to less and since there is no way to power it by an external battery the surface pro is out. (and the surface pro 2 has better battery life, but it also costs quite more).
Are there any alternatives? which of the above would you recommend ?
Thanks for your help in advance
You're looking for the single most expensive type of portable tech, which is honestly still in its early stages...
I think the Surface 2 is your best bet. They come with different hardware configs, of course, so maybe try to save some in that department?
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Yes, I know, I still find it very interesting, that there are so less devices of that type, since at least in German Universities one year ago nobody used electronic devices for handwriting... Now it's like 30% of the students. There is money to be made, companies!
Well, I like the surface pro 2... But it costs almost twice as much as the other devices. In Germany there are special offers for students, Dell and Lenovo cost like 400€ and the surface pro 2 almost 800€.... And the surface pro (1) is out because of the insufficient battery life.
Perhaps the Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1.
It should be Windows, thing is, she has a note 10.1, but she wants one device to replace all the others. So, a pen enabled Windows tablet...
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It should be Windows, thing is, she has a note 10.1, but she wants one device to replace all the others. So, a pen enabled Windows tablet...
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I don't think there's a tablet out currently that is as optimized for the use of a Wacom Stylus(S-Pen) like the Galaxy Note series of devices. Good luck with your search.
However, you can also check here.
Thanks for the link.
The ThinkPad tablet has a Wacom digitizer, like my x230t, that I'm very happy with. But that's to chunky and heavy for my girlfriend. She wants a tablet. Like I said, she has a note 10.1 and is fairly satisfied with it, but since she wants to replace the laptop, she wants Windows
I'm starting college next year, and I need a laptop! I better one than my current laptop anyways... I currently have an Acer Aspire S7 391 - purchased it used, and it just has too many cons that just don't make it worth the $600 I paid for it.
It gets too hot for Lap use, battery life is about 2-3 hours, the fan gets crazy loud... too loud for my high school classes, and the trackpad is jumpy, slow, and just.. terrible.
So I need a new laptop! Here are some things I would like to mention that may help tell you what I'm looking for.
1. Good Battery Life. A minimum of 6 hours.
2. Atleast a 1080p display. (Prefer touchscreen)
3. 13 inches minimum display size.
4. Slim, and powerful for it's size. I don't need to be editing videos or playing games, but being able to do some tasks that require a little more power would be nice!
5. The fan, if there is one, simply can't be loud. I don't know why this bothers me so much, it's fine if it's my desktop, but for a laptop, ugh..
I'll also be bringing my desktop to school, this Laptop will mostly be for taking notes, and being able to do all of my school "stuff" on a portable device, so I can work... anywhere!
Your suggestion doesn't need to match any of the specifications I mentioned, I'll certainly take a look at anything recommended!
Thank you so much!
(In-case it makes any kind of difference, I'm going into Business at an above average university, 30,000 students total)
I forgot to include a budget! haha! I'm willing to look into used versions of the laptops recommended as well, to possibly save a hundred bucks or so, I would say mu budget is just around $1,000. (Possibly being able to find it used for maybe $800 if any are available used).
Dell Inspiron 13 may be a fit for you.. If not the Surface Pro 3 was OK
I reckon surface pro, but if your looking for a bargain, look at some of the sub $200 Windows 8.1 tablets. Ad some accessories such as a keyboard, mouse and battery pack, and you could have a decent laptop replacement for under $300.
I would even suggest something such as the cube iwork7 dual boot tablet (android and windows 8.1) for ~$125USD from geekbuying
http://www.geekbuying.com/item/Cube...GB-32GB-HDMI-IPS-BT---White-Black-341909.html
This is all you really need for school imo, and after adding accessories such as a Bluetooth keyboard and mouse, battery pack and usb hub, you could have a moderately powered computer for about $200.
I seriously considered doing this myself, but the school gave us Lenovo ThinkPad yogas (current model), which is also a good option.
Ive been wondering about this also. Im about to start my computer science degree this year.
Look into Asus. By far the best in terms of hardware and build.
I'm particularly fond of the N range, though those might be a bit too powerful for regular use. (still, €1299 for a laptop(N76VB) that can run Dragon Age Inquisition on Ultra at 58FPS is well worth the money to me.)
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Greetings everyone,
P.S: Admin Sorry if i'm posting in some wrong category, i didn't know where else to input my inquiry.
I'm looking for an android rugged smartphone with at least a minimum required features.
I'm a big fan of Nexus phones, 3, 4, 5, now as i was thinking of getting a 5x or 6p.
I came across what they call rugged phones, as i'm kinda rough with my equipments, and drop them occasionaly "accidently".
I noticed the cat60 and the chineese conquest s8 pro wish seemed pretty well built and have some good features, but did not find any links on google for the original firmwares or rooting.
Now my priorities are as follow:
1- Rootable
2- Be able to flash it with it's original firmware (Must be available for download)
3- Android OS not beyond 6.1 ( as i loose the ability to format the SD card as an internal memory)
4- a minimum of 2GB ram, 3GB would be better.
5- SD card slot with a minimum support of 32GB, would like a 64 or 128 GB support if possible.
6- OTG support (thinking here of additional usb flash drives for gps map support) for traveling.
7- 5 inch screen more or less
8- Waterproof, dustproof etc....
9- Internal memory of 16 or 32GB (preference 32GB)
10- The more milliamps the battery have of course the best ( not a big issue as i always have a portable solar charger on hand and a power bank)
11- QUALITY QUALITY QUALITY !!!! No price limit as long as it's worth every penny !
Any thoughts, ideas anyone could come up with will be greatly appreciated.
Hi! There's a dedicated thread for such questions, where you'll find lots of opinions,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1620179
I'll close this thread. :good:
Has anyone found a decent alternative to the S‐Pen for the S21 Ultra? I'll possibly get the Pro version when it's released but the standard version is overpriced (£35 for a stylus with no active functionality is ridiculous), I just want a cheap compatible one just now that I can use occasionally. The options on Amazon are limited to other-model S-Pens or those ones with the plastic disc on the end. Thanks
I'd say an older note phone s pen but if It aint charging not much use.
Well does anyone know if the s pen from older notes which use tiny batteries inside charge from the wireless charging from the rear of the phone?
From what I understand you don't need to charge the older S-pen as its not using bluetooth to connect to the phone.
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From what I understand you don't need to charge the older S-pen as its not using bluetooth to connect to the phone.
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Yeah there's no active functionality for the S Pen and the S21 Ultra yet, no Bluetooth etc, so it just needs to be a plastic stick with the right type of nib. I've tried the pen from a Microsoft Surface and that doesn't work. The older Note pens would work but they're all as expensive if not moreso because of them having bluetooth.
I've tried my note 9 pen and it works fine, would be good if someone brings out a case which can take different sized pens, maybe some kind of clip which will just adjust to different sizes.
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Yeah there's no active functionality for the S Pen and the S21 Ultra yet, no Bluetooth etc, so it just needs to be a plastic stick with the right type of nib. I've tried the pen from a Microsoft Surface and that doesn't work. The older Note pens would work but they're all as expensive if not moreso because of them having bluetooth.
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yeah, its just the wacom tech that they use in the s pen that allows them to work
https://www.digitec.ch/fr/s1/product/staedtler-noris-stylets-6405804
https://www.digitec.ch/fr/s1/product/wacom-bambou-fineline-3-stylets-5946492
The spen evolution is a Samsung engineering triumph. It actually impresses me.
Without a Note you loose many of the basic spen features I would think. Not sure the screen would even be able to sense as many tactile pressure levels like the newer Note's do or have the speed. Even a small time delay is noticeable and annoying.
No hovering functionality either.
Most times I don't use the spen but smart select is one feature I really like when it's needed.
It's remote bt mode also works well and not easily duplicated. It's slick and interactive as hell.
There's a lot of gimmicks most will never use but there are no drop in replacements as the modern Samsung spen is a minor engineering marvel.
If you're a die hard spen user the Note is the only way to go.
whatever... for the price tag and tradeoff in features the Note's are still a better deal for those who wuv the spen.
The 20U does support 4096 pressure levels.
Wow Google search... who ever think to use it?
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The spen evolution is a Samsung engineering triumph. It actually impresses me.
Without a Note you loose many of the basic spen features I would think. Not sure the screen would even be able to sense as many tactile pressure levels like the newer Note's do or have the speed. Even a small time delay is noticeable and annoying.
No hovering functionality either.
Most times I don't use the spen but smart select is one feature I really like when it's needed.
It's remote bt mode also works well and not easily duplicated. It's slick and interactive as hell.
There's a lot of gimmicks most will never use but there are no drop in replacements as the modern Samsung spen is a minor engineering marvel.
If you're a die hard spen user the Note is the only way to go.
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Thanks, I believe the S21 Ultra senses different pressure levels and has the same speed as the Note, that's why it's being touted as "s-pen compatible", it's just the bluetooth functions like camera shutter control that are missing.
They've said the upcoming Pro version will have more functions, presumably bluetooth and some way of charging it without it being docked inside the phone.
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https://www.digitec.ch/fr/s1/product/staedtler-noris-stylets-6405804
https://www.digitec.ch/fr/s1/product/wacom-bambou-fineline-3-stylets-5946492
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Thanks, both look like good alternatives but one is the same price and the other is far more expensive than the official Samsung version, so not really what I was looking for, I'd be as well just getting the Samsung one.
I am using my Old s-pen from the Note 7 i had to return .. and its working no problem, just no bluetooth function .. but i'm okay for now .. I think like the first post said ... i'll wait for the Pro .. current one is overpriced.
Here are some alternatives..
https://lamyshop.se/products/lamy-al-star-black-emr-digital-stylus-pen#
https://www.amazon.se/STAEDTLER-kla...locphy=1012282&hvtargid=pla-349884157563&th=1
Staedtler Noris digital jumbo 180J 22. EMR Stylus mit weichem digitalen Radierer. Eingabestift für digitales Schreiben, Zeichnen und Radieren auf EMR Touchscreens (4.096 Druckstufen, 0.7 mm Spitze) : Amazon.se: Elektronik
Staedtler Noris digital jumbo 180J 22. EMR Stylus mit weichem digitalen Radierer. Eingabestift für digitales Schreiben, Zeichnen und Radieren auf EMR Touchscreens (4.096 Druckstufen, 0.7 mm Spitze) : Amazon.se: Elektronik
www.amazon.se
Guys, some one tried the s-pen from the tab s7? I actually think is the same s-pen, someone can confirm that ?
I purchased tab A8 stylus which is a bit bigger than the note series and it works flawlessly, and its very cheap only around 10 usd in a local marketplace
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Has anyone found a decent alternative to the S‐Pen for the S21 Ultra? I'll possibly get the Pro version when it's released but the standard version is overpriced (£35 for a stylus with no active functionality is ridiculous), I just want a cheap compatible one just now that I can use occasionally. The options on Amazon are limited to other-model S-Pens or those ones with the plastic disc on the end. Thanks
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knock off note pens are less than 10 dollars on amazon; what are you on about?
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I've tried my note 9 pen and it works fine, would be good if someone brings out a case which can take different sized pens, maybe some kind of clip which will just adjust to different sizes.
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Does that 1 button work?
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Does that 1 button work?
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Even the button from tab A8 works, we can use it as an action to trigger the eraser mode or click button and tab to view the special note menus, etc
My trade to Samsung was a Note 3...I kept the pen and it's working just fine. Zero cost.
Finding one of the old Note pens should be easy.
Curious what Samsung's "Pro" pen will be in terms of added functionality.
Hi All
This isn't rocket science, but thought I would pass on something I've been working on.
My Ultra has more ram, more storage and a better processor than my laptop along with 5x the battery life. So... I wanted to use it to work on the train and needed to print labels and stuff envelopes.
I bought a Zebra ZQ310 which is a very nice battery powered Bluetooth receipt/label printer. The printer is brill, but the Zebra Android software on Play is very old, but works.
I bought AndropenOffice Pro for £7.99 which I really like, it's got a mouse icon at the bottom and pressing it offers an area of the screen at the bottom as a touchpad, but for me,I bought a Jelly Comb Bluetooth trackball which is easier for me and won't take up too much area on the table. And, significantly it's much lighter than my old clunky laptop with a spare battery.
I bought the pro version of andropen Office as you can't print with the free version. My original idea was to use Google Print but that was jettisoned in December last year.
The only irritation with this is I bought it from the Amazon appstore and it requires you are running appstore and be signed into it to use andropenoffice. This is irritating as I'm guessing they are harvesting my personal data at the same time.
Any road up, Noroot firewall sorted that out. The appstore app is now blocked and andropenoffice seems to work just fine.
The combination of AndropenOffice and the Zebra printer work very well. I can print text, fonts and graphics and it's all fine.
For the keyboard, I've bought one of those PU leather wallets with an integral Bluetooth keyboard (see pic) so it ends up quite like a laptop.
This morning I processed half a dozen orders and printed address labels and it works well. It takes a little getting used to, with the small screen and occasional large windows that need dragging around but I'll stick with it and see how I get on.
Although our local trains often have Internet and mains power, you can't guarantee it so I've got an 18650 power bank which will charge the phone and the printer which, conveniently, is USB-C.
Although there are many more apps for Windows, I'm going to push ahead and see how far I can go. I use paint.net quite a bit on the laptop, so if anyone knows an equivalent for Android, please let me know.
Oops uploaded an Amazon joke too,so enjoy....
Cheers
Steve
You bought a 1500$ cellphone and can't afford a decent laptop to get your job done?
Get your priorities straight.
I disagree.This phone is powerful enough to comply with all his needs, what's the point to spend money on a laptop? The only reason he should buy one is the use of Windows
Hi @vagelis199 are you having a bad day or are you this rude all the time? I explained my reasons so try reading the post again lol. I Paid $1000.00 for my phone so I think you may have been stung lol.
I already have a laptop, but it's heavy to lug around and my phone is always with me.
I program PIC chips from time to time. I don't think there is anything for Android but that would be a real bonus for me.
Anyone know of a decent paint program for Android?
Cheers
Steve
Well, the keyboard/case arrrived and it works well (see pic).
The keyboardi s removable and very thin. It atttaches to the case with integral magnets. The only gotcha is it's a US keybaord so shift-3 is # and not £.
Need to find a good key re-mapper or save the £ symbol in a text file.....
Cheers
Steve
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Well, the keyboard/case arrrived and it works well (see pic).
The keyboardi s removable and very thin. It atttaches to the case with integral magnets. The only gotcha is it's a US keybaord so shift-3 is # and not £.
Need to find a good key re-mapper or save the £ symbol in a text file.....
Cheers
Steve
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great setup man, you gave me idea that i can do some parts of my job with phone too
picitup said:
Well, the keyboard/case arrrived and it works well (see pic).
The keyboardi s removable and very thin. It atttaches to the case with integral magnets. The only gotcha is it's a US keybaord so shift-3 is # and not £.
Need to find a good key re-mapper or save the £ symbol in a text file.....
Cheers
Steve
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What mouse is that?
Hi @lortwarCECH
Glad you like it. With the latest generation of phones, I'm finding myself moving more towards the phone than the laptop. It's a bit of a learning curve, but processed a dozen orders today in no time.
Hi @22naresn it's Jelly Comb track ball Model MT50:
MT50 Trackball Mouse
Trackball Mouse: an amazing alternative to traditional mice, allows you to navigate the cursor through your thumb Ergonomic Design: minimize arm & wrist movements, reduce muscle strain, and relieves RSI (repetitive strain injury)Bluetooth4.0 & 2.4G Wireless: connect up to 3 devices...
www.jellycomb.uk
It's a piece of cake to use. It just fell off the arm of a chair and bust a plate on the floor and the ball popped out. Hope I didn''t break it sod the plate!
Cheers
Steve
Update: No tracker balls were harmed in this post. The ball popped back in just fine so life is good. The plate bits are in the bin.
It has a USB-C charging port so that's convenient. I forgot to turn it off (that's the issue with BT devices) and left it on all night. In the morning it worked just fine. Dunno what the battery life is, but it seems pretty good.
Cheers
Steve
Just a little more background on this as it's been quite a long journey then I'll stop droning on
The first printer I bought for this project was a Milestone MHT-L5801 here:
Milestone MHT-L5801 Portable Bluetooth Thermal Printer 58mm Pos Barcode Printer | eBay
Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Milestone MHT-L5801 Portable Bluetooth Thermal Printer 58mm Pos Barcode Printer at the best online prices at eBay! Free delivery for many products.
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And it really is a piece of junk. The plastic clip that holds the platen roller in place broke very quickly and sometimes it worked and sometimes it didn't. One issue was the blutooth range which was about 3 inches lol. I almost had it working,then it started printing very light, with parts of the text missing, Cleaning the head with an IPA wipe made no difference.
I contacted Milestone initially by email and got no reply to my first email or chasers then facebook and they said they would send me new firmware by email. Nothing arrived and when I chased them, they just said 'sorry'. Chased them again and they jsut said sorry again, but no firmware.
So, poor mechanical design, crap firmware with zero support.
Next up was a Zebra LP2824 printer here:
LP 2824 Desktop Printer Support & Downloads | Zebra
Find information on the Zebra LP 2824 Desktop Printer drivers, software, support, downloads, warranty information and more.
www.zebra.com
I bought it for 30 quid on eBay and Zebra printers are good quality. They are designed for use in warehouses etc. It's a desktop printer which makes it a bt heavy to lug around, but it *just works* and there are plenty of spares for it on Aliexpress so it can be maintained.
The power supply is 19v, like most laptops and I bought a USB/19v power bank from aliexpress which works using 18650 batteries here:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32619062806.html
The power bank powered the printer just fine and next up was to connect the RS232 port to a bluetooth dongle so the it would be transformed form a desktop printer which was battery powered with bluetooth.
I bought a couple of Bluetooth modules, but coudn't get them to work, then I saw an eBay ad with a guy selling the ZQ310 printers cheap (£100.00) which are designed to be portable (battery powered and Bluetooth) so bought one.
Now the desktop LP2824 is on my desk.
As mentioned earlier the Android software is very old and a bit scrappy, but it seems to work.
I didn't want to use some random labelling software, all I wanted was to be able to print from Open Office and I could then print anything. With Andopenoffice, this all works well and I can print text, fonts and graphics so job's a good 'un.
It's been a labour of love (and hate!) but now everything works fine.
I'm going to email Microchip and see if they are considering producing an Android compiler for their PIC chips. I guess they will think I'm nuts, but if I could program PICs on the train my life would be complete lol.
Ok I'll stop banging on now
Cheers
Steve
And finally (Ithink) here it is cast to a PC monitor using an Amazon Firestick
With the phone running andropenoffice
The firestick plugs into the HDMI port on the monitor and you go to:
Home/Settings/Display/Enable mirroring and it works like a dream
See attached pic.
Cheers
Steve
vagelis199 said:
You bought a 1500$ cellphone and can't afford a decent laptop to get your job done?
Get your priorities straight.
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Why do you care what others do?
It looks a bit bizarre tbh but if it works for you and you have good eyesight go for it
I would guess a 14" laptop would be miles more productive but the phone is surely powerful enough to be a workhorse if necessary
Hehe I just got on abit of a roll and wanted to see what could be done. My eyesight is crap but I have good glasses and you can always zoom a web page.
I must admit, I like the laptop better, but for long battery life on a train with no Internet, USB or mains power, the phone is a good substitute. It takes a bit of getting used to, but my speed is improving daily.
You're right - it's a flippin' powerful computer and so small
Cheers
Steve
I have tried using large phones with Bluetooth mouse and keyboard cases for a long time. Every time I realized Android cannot replace desktop OS. Multi-tasking in Android is painfully slow, whatever you use, split-screen or free size windows, and whichever OS version, I have tried from android 6 to 10. Nevertheless, if you are keen on trying here is some setup I have used
Tablet autofit cases: http://amazon.com/ZAGG-Bluetooth-Keyboard-Android-Tablets/dp/B00IBW5XWY, it has a spring holder, tablet just fits snugly in the top shell. it becomes a foldable laptop-like device.
This used to come in 7 inches, 8 inch, and 10-inch compatible sizes. I used this with Huawei mediapad X1/X2, Mediapad M3 8.4
I then got this mouse Logitech t630. It's a very small slim mouse with a touch surface.
When I moved to a little less wider phone, due to unnecessary skewing of display aspect ratios (16:10 -> 18:9 -> 19:9 -> 20:9), the Zagg autofit keyboards no longer fit the phones even of 7+ inch diagonal.
I have Huawei mate 20x most recently. For this phone, I use this keyboard and Logitech T630 mouse as mentioned above.
Another trick to try is to add custom keyboard shortcuts from accessibility -> switch access.
Hi @bark1234
Thanks for all the useful info. Although my speed with the setup described isn't yet as fast as a laptop, I'll be doing 5 hour train journies, so any time I can use fruitully is good. Some eBay pages don't seem to scroll or zoom so that's an irritation, particularly when giving feeback.
I guess time will tell. I will either eat if for breakfast or pull my hair out lol. Fun project though
Cheers
Steve
Just a quick update on this. I've been using Andropenoffice to print labels to a Zebra battery label printer for some time. My speed has improved and now prefer my mi 11 ultra to a laptop. I got caught out with the A12 update as I bought andropenoffice from the Amazon Appstore which doesn't support A12 yet. The options were Update or Quit, but update didn't work so it broke Andropenoffice. Good 'ole Amazon. On the ball (asleep at the keyboard) as usual.
Anyway, rather than grab a pen, I bought Andropenoffice again, but this time from the Play Store. Works great lol.
So in summary, nice small phone to process my orders, but problems with software compatibilty just like a PC.
Some days I really like being an early adopter and other days....
Cheers
Steve
I bought a mi pad 5 pro
It actually feels faster than the mi 11 ultra somehow
Maybe because it has more space for cooling down the chip etc
The battery life is great and it's super smooth
Might be a better productivity device because it is designed for a keyboard and mouse and pen etc but I just wanted to use some apps on a bigger screen and it's great