thinking about buying the galaxy tab s2, but... - Galaxy Tab S2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

before i buy this tablet, i need to know if it is possible to change the screen format from the stock 4:3 to the more useful 16:9 in a custom rom or kernel or whatever? i didn't see this asked anywhere, and it is black friday, so i need to find out quickly as i need to make a buying decision. thanks for any help!

stevae said:
before i buy this tablet, i need to know if it is possible to change the screen format from the stock 4:3 to the more useful 16:9 in a custom rom or kernel or whatever? i didn't see this asked anywhere, and it is black friday, so i need to find out quickly as i need to make a buying decision. thanks for any help!
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What do you mean change it? It's physically and natively a 4:3 tablet.
However you can use the tablet in which ever orientation you please.
If you turn it 90 degrees to landscape mode it becomes a 16:9 tablet, but you can t physically move the buttons.
You're better off buying the tab S if you want native 16:9.

ashyx said:
What do you mean change it? It's physically and natively a 4:3 tablet.
However you can use the tablet in which ever orientation you please.
If you turn it 90 degrees to landscape mode it becomes a 16:9 tablet, but you can t physically move the buttons.
You're better off buying the tab S if you want native 16:9.
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what i mean, is like on a computer, you can change formats of videos or games or what not, from 4:3 to 16:9, so you don't have the large black bars on the screen while viewing one of them.

Er?? Then you either have a totally distorted picture (all things are too high in relation to their width), or you must crop the left and right sides to fit the picture into the 4:3 screen.
If that is what you want... but it is not very reasonable to want it...

stevae said:
what i mean, is like on a computer, you can change formats of videos or games or what not, from 4:3 to 16:9, so you don't have the large black bars on the screen while viewing one of them.
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What you ask doesn't make sense, you can't physically alter the ratio of something without distorting the image or cutting part of it off.. If a video is 16:9 it must be played back at 16:9 regardless of the physical dimensions of the device.
If you don't like black bars then you would have to use a player such as mx player that allows the image to be stretched to full screen.

stevae said:
what i mean, is like on a computer, you can change formats of videos or games or what not, from 4:3 to 16:9, so you don't have the large black bars on the screen while viewing one of them.
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You can't not even a computer in proper look. From 4:3 ratio resolution to 16:9 ratio resolution will make everything look stretching and distorted.

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[Q] way the HDMI is stretching

Why when I connect the TV to 2x OPTIMUS
Pixel stretch
Even when taking pictures in FULL HD
Even in games
In Cell Phones see so beautiful
But not on TV
Apart from two sample movies I got with the device
The phone's resolution is 800x480, your telly's resolution is 1280x720 or 1920x1080.
Not hard to figure it out
Yes but when taking pictures in FULL HD
This basically
1080P?
So ...
Or I copy a tape device in MKV in HD
This should be the quality of HD is not it?
sganach said:
Yes but when taking pictures in FULL HD
This basically
1080P?
So ...
Or I copy a tape device in MKV in HD
This should be the quality of HD is not it?
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*when taking pictures=when i taking video...
Mine doesnt strech on the screen. If the phone is upright it shows the image upright, with big black sidebars(No stretching). When the phone is laying down/playing video the image is not scaled either, and fits the screen quite nicely.
The user interface is upscaled to 1080p, so the menu, items, apps, ... are all upscaled.
Only the video mode (and maybe game mode) is native 1080p.
I've fiddled with my phone on the tv and I see no stretch.
Are you sure that the TV itself doesn't have a picture stretching mode enabled?
Many TVs have them on by default to adapt 4/3 (99% of non cable/satellite transmissions) content to their screen.
Modes are various and go by different names,but these are the usual:
linear stretch, content is stretched over the screen, so it gets "fattened"
zoom, content is cropped to fit aspect ration and then zoomed, this usually gives good results on films because they have upper and lower black bands which gets deleted, and then the rest has the size of the tv and fits all the screen
hybrid stretch, central part of the content remains the same, the content gets stretched the far it is from the center (stretching on the lateral edges, it gives an effect similar to a wide lens)

HDMI tv out, only mirroring?

I tried the tvout with the offical hmdi adapter but it mirrors the tablet including the system bar, and since the resolution of the tablet is 16:10 and not 16:9 I get two black vertical stripes at both sides.
Is there a way to change this behavior? Like a full 16:9 or a 1080p out?
zooster said:
I tried the tvout with the offical hmdi adapter but it mirrors the tablet including the system bar, and since the resolution of the tablet is 16:10 and not 16:9 I get two black vertical stripes at both sides.
Is there a way to change this behavior? Like a full 16:9 or a 1080p out?
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You'll need to change the settings on your TV to stretch the picture or zoom it, most TV's have a setting to automatically do this to hide black bars, the only problem is it alters the shapes, people end up with odd shaped heads etc
So basically there is no way to play on a tv a 16:9 fullhd video or a slidewhow without status bar? I mean, is mirroring the only one mode?
You can set this up to hide the status bar, but 16:9 is always going to be an issue as the tablet is not 16:9
Yes, but still tvout is a limited feature since I can't have an extended desktop or i.e. a slideshow played on tv while working on something on the tab...
zooster said:
Yes, but still tvout is a limited feature since I can't have an extended desktop or i.e. a slideshow played on tv while working on something on the tab...
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Hang on......so you want to play a video to the TV in HD widescreen while still doing something on the tablet ?
I'm pretty sure there's no Android devices that do this
A kind of... My first aim is to play a slideshow on a tv in full screen mode, while seeing the slide's tree on the tablet and choosing which one to show in full screen on the tv.
Second aim is to disable tablet video and show only tv. It would be nice to play a 3d game on the tv, but as long as the video is doubled fps are so low that it's unplayable.
FPS won't be doubled as all you're doing is doubling up the video output, not the data going through the GPU, there's plenty of video's on youtube of folks using MHL adapters to connect to a TV to play games
Yes fps won't be halved but, since a tough game is very cpu intensive, doubling the video it lags a lot more the tablet. My tablet is much more laggy even simply swiping on the home screens or app drawer when connected to a tv.
Flash motley kernel and overclock to 1.4
I believe a Nexus Q will let you send video from the tablet to the TV whilst doing other stuff on the tablet, but it costs quite a lot.
Definitely hear some unrealistic multitasking wants. Also, doesn't ICS improve hdmi out options as far as full screen video, not just mirroring?
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The Galaxy note 10.1 has this function in the movieplayer to only show the video while controls are shown on the tablet. This is exactly what you are asking if i understand you correctly.
I'm also looking for more possibilities in this area. Being able to see the picture Gallery while only showing the last picture (or non at the start) would be amazing!
If i find anything i will share it here

Screen resolution - stretching?

I actually realized this since the first day of using the tablet... I noticed that the screen actually got stretched when you set your tablet in landscape mode and squished in while in portrait mode.
I suspect that the OS is running at a wrong native resolution... Does anyone have similar observation?
Yep, me too
I noticed the same issue. Circular icons look especially bad. Funny enough, the tablet on the packaging also has a distorted screen. In Youtube, videos have black bars on the top and bottom of the screen. This shouldn't be the case, as 1024x600 is a 16:9 aspect ratio, and videos are typically 16:9.
Code:
adb shell dumpsys display
contains the following output:
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mPhys=PhysicalDisplayInfo{600 x 1024, 59.670002 fps, density 1.0, 177.209 x 171.115 dpi, secure true, appVsyncOffset -5000000, bufferDeadline 22758840}
Yup, installed luna icon pack and looks horrible. Same as letters in Google keyboard.
I was just getting on to post about this very thing. Here is an image comparison I put together showing a screen shot side-by-side with a photo of the screen:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0Z0bpkQXwBFR1djTnJLSGlsTkU/view
According to the images I pulled, the nominal screen resolution is 600x1024, which is also the hardware spec. But the actual image you see is the same aspect ratio as a display with a resolution of 600x1080. This suggests that the display pixels aren't actually square. I tried a couple of resolution changers in the Play Store but they just scale the display without addressing the issue.
I found an old Google Groups post asking about a cheap tablet with non-square pixels, and the answer in 2012 wasn't very encouraging. I wonder if something could be done through an Xposed module?
I lowered the dpi to 150 just to test and same result...
theophile2 said:
I was just getting on to post about this very thing. Here is an image comparison I put together showing a screen shot side-by-side with a photo of the screen:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0Z0bpkQXwBFR1djTnJLSGlsTkU/view
According to the images I pulled, the nominal screen resolution is 600x1024, which is also the hardware spec. But the actual image you see is the same aspect ratio as a display with a resolution of 600x1080. This suggests that the display pixels aren't actually square. I tried a couple of resolution changers in the Play Store but they just scale the display without addressing the issue.
I found an old Google Groups post asking about a cheap tablet with non-square pixels, and the answer in 2012 wasn't very encouraging. I wonder if something could be done through an Xposed module?
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Also, this line from the display dump above similarly seems to indicate non-square pixels:
Code:
density 1.0, 177.209 x 171.115 dpi
Anyone know how to change horizonal and vertical dpi independently?
Apparently the dpi is 160 normally.
You can set it higher and the icons will look less stretched but the dpi seems correct.
Yeah, this is sadly typical in cheap chinese tablets. What really surprises me is that almost nobody talks about this, and most of the people don't even notice it even after pointing it to them
I've also noticed that this screen has what I think is a slow redraw rate (i. e. painting line by line from the top) which cause funky scroll effects, especially in dark backgrounds in portrait. Grab the tablet with the buttons on top and scroll quickly in the Kindle Store and you'll see it
I watched a video on the Fire for the first time, and while this isn't exactly a scientific test, the video did not seem stretched out or distorted to me. I tested with a second video and it too seemed to display with the correct aspect ratio. If so, then that suggests that the display, controller, and drivers are all capable of rendering an image that is not distorted, and that it may be an issue with the rendering of the Android UI.
Up, i would love having a fix for this.
Mine doesnt seem to show these problems? Is it just a some devices problem or am I missing something?
zach61797 said:
Mine doesnt seem to show these problems? Is it just a some devices problem or am I missing something?
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Just got one of the $50 Fire tablets delivered and this is one of the first things I noticed. Look at a circular icon when it's in portrait and when it's in landscape and it's really obvious. I noticed it on the Pinterest icon.
If this really is a hardware issue, I don't suppose there's any way to fix it? If not I'll probably return it and get my money back.
amiiboh said:
Just got one of the $50 Fire tablets delivered and this is one of the first things I noticed. Look at a circular icon when it's in portrait and when it's in landscape and it's really obvious. I noticed it on the Pinterest icon.
If this really is a hardware issue, I don't suppose there's any way to fix it? If not I'll probably return it and get my money back.
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Idk.. I don't really notice it maybe it's just my perspective the seem good to me.
It didn't jump out at me, but yes, the screen is definitely wider than 1024/600. Maybe it is 16:9.
I did notice the weird scrolling. Perhaps it's refreshed in some interlaced fashion?
I've noticed that some people just don't see it. Coincidentally in my case it was the same people that watch 4:3 content stretched in their 16:9 TVs and are happy with it
martinml said:
I've noticed that some people just don't see it. Coincidentally in my case it was the same people that watch 4:3 content stretched in their 16:9 TVs and are happy with it
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^^^ This!
The incorrect aspect ratio is really distracting. I hope there's a way to fix it now that custom ROMs are available.
Hey guys! Does anyone else have a problem with scrolling. When I scroll down a page it looks like the left side is scrolling slower than the right. So for example, if you scroll down on a page full of horizontal lines or text, all the text slopes to the right until the page stops. I'm not sure if this is normal because the tablets so cheap or if its just mine?
BadPotato said:
Hey guys! Does anyone else have a problem with scrolling. When I scroll down a page it looks like the left side is scrolling slower than the right. So for example, if you scroll down on a page full of horizontal lines or text, all the text slopes to the right until the page stops. I'm not sure if this is normal because the tablets so cheap or if its just mine?
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It seems "normal" for this tablet, sadly:
martinml said:
I've also noticed that this screen has what I think is a slow redraw rate (i. e. painting line by line from the top) which cause funky scroll effects, especially in dark backgrounds in portrait. Grab the tablet with the buttons on top and scroll quickly in the Kindle Store and you'll see it
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Can't complaint it's rather solid for it's price imo.
Aghh glad its not just mine then. I'm loving the fire! Though it was going to be rubbish but really surprised!

Please help me with aspect ratio of the display

Hey guys, I am looking to buy this phone. I have one question, what is the aspect ratio of the display with notch being disabled? Someone please answer. Thanks in advance.
Musiclover49 said:
Hey guys, I am looking to buy this phone. I have one question, what is the aspect ratio of the display with notch being disabled? Someone please answer. Thanks in advance.
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I believe it is back to being standard 16:9 or 16:10 with the notch disabled. Out of curiosity, why is the aspect ratio an issue?
Crossvxm said:
I believe it is back to being standard 16:9 or 16:10 with the notch disabled. Out of curiosity, why is the aspect ratio an issue?
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After seeing many videos on youtube, I believe it is 18:9.
Aspect ratio is always an issue. I watch movies on my smartphone, so I need to know how immersive is the video watching experience. Thanks anyway.
No worries, videos will be shown correctly without the notch even if you don't disable it. You won't face with any issues about that.
Musiclover49 said:
After seeing many videos on youtube, I believe it is 18:9.
Aspect ratio is always an issue. I watch movies on my smartphone, so I need to know how immersive is the video watching experience. Thanks anyway.
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Android 9.0 added support for the notch, and many apps have been quick to release updates perfecting it, Google's YouTube of course was one of the first. When you disable the notch in the settings, you get the full standard viewable area. With the notch enabled, you can pinch out to zoom which will fill every corner of the screen with very minimal peripheral loss. Everything I mentioned is with the nav bar disabled (fullscreen display mode). The end result is an experience not much different than with a "standard" phone.

Any way to force snapchat into 16:9 aspect ratio?

I really don't like sending tall 19:9 aspect ratio photos to my friend that has 16:9 phone. I already disabled the notch and enabled the navigation bar so that reduced the screen a bit, so that's now maybe a 18:9, but my friend still sees black bars on to the sides of her phone. Any more tricks like this, any way to open an app with a different resolution? I don't have root and I heard it's a complicated process to get it, so I would prefer not to do that.
Giancarlo said:
I really don't like sending tall 19:9 aspect ratio photos to my friend that has 16:9 phone. I already disabled the notch and enabled the navigation bar so that reduced the screen a bit, so that's now maybe a 18:9, but my friend still sees black bars on to the sides of her phone. Any more tricks like this, any way to open an app with a different resolution? I don't have root and I heard it's a complicated process to get it, so I would prefer not to do that.
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Try changing your resolution to 1080p (not 1080pi) with adb
Chocolatetrain said:
Try changing your resolution to 1080p (not 1080pi) with adb
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But that would change the resolution for the whole device, right?
Giancarlo said:
But that would change the resolution for the whole device, right?
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Yeah, maybe try using Tasker? I'm not sure if it allows you to use commands like that if it's not rooted. If it does, you could just run that command when the app's open and the revert it once you close
hey OP, how did you enable the navigation bar to stay in snapchat?? i'm looking for a way to do this?

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