Question about a Nexus 6 prototype or developer edition I found - Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

So I found this phone on Craigslist and couldn't resist buying it ( I know, bad idea). But basically, this phone has "Motorola Confidential Property. Not for Sale" printed on the bottom of the screen along with a Motorola logo and some numbers at the top of the screen. It also doesn't have the Nexus logo printed on the back.
I took it home, and it did not work with any sim I had. So i started digging around in the phones settings and bootloader to see if anything was different. I only found two things that were different apart from physical appearance:
1. Product Variant in bootloader says "shamu XT 1103 32 GB P2A" while all other Nexus 6's I have seen have "shamu XT 1103 32 GB P3A0"
2. The baseband in settings ends with a lowercase "p" instead of "R" (no matter what baseband I flash in fastboot).
One last tidbit that I thought was interesting is that this phones IMEI shows up as clean and ready to activate on any network but I believe it is because the IMEI does not exist in any database. I called Motorola and gave them the IMEI, and they said they found no phone on their database with that IMEI.
Does anyone know if their is a way to convert this to a functioning Nexus 6? I assume it is these differences and the unknown IMEI preventing me from activating the phone on my network. While I would like to get the phone working with my network, I mostly posted this on here to see what people had to say about the phone and maybe someone knows how to get it working on here. I can post pictures of the phone if people want.

I don't have an answer, but it would be pretty cool to get a "Nexus 6" prototype working. Can you take a picture of the phone? I'd be interested in seeing the front and back, or the differences. Thanks

dave2metz said:
I don't have an answer, but it would be pretty cool to get a "Nexus 6" prototype working. Can you take a picture of the phone? I'd be interested in seeing the front and back, or the differences. Thanks
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here are some pictures:

it could possibly be a moto x pro, which is an exact lookalike of the nexus 6, but slightly different inside. its sold in china only. but, thats only a guess :angel:

simms22 said:
it could possibly be a moto x pro, which is an exact lookalike of the nexus 6, but slightly different inside. its sold in china only. but, thats only a guess :angel:
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Hmm, I didn't consider that. I don't think it is, unless the "Nexus 6" name mentioned in the settings/bootloader were somehow changed to that prior to me buying the phone. It does look a lot like it though, although the "M" logo in the back is different on mine then the one in that picture. The hardware listed in the bootloader also matches up with the hardware in standard Nexus 6's, unless both phones had the same hardware.
One other thing that helps prove that it is some type of Nexus 6 is the IMEI, which shows up as Nexus 6 on a lot of databases (although not in Motorola's haha...).
EDIT: if it is somehow the Moto x pro, maybe that would explain why the phone does not work in the states, and probably why the baseband is different.

pheonix3330 said:
Hmm, I didn't consider that. I don't think it is, unless the "Nexus 6" name mentioned in the settings/bootloader were somehow changed to that prior to me buying the phone. It does look a lot like it though, although the "M" logo in the back is different on mine then the one in that picture. The hardware listed in the bootloader also matches up with the hardware in standard Nexus 6's, unless both phones had the same hardware.
One other thing that helps prove that it is some type of Nexus 6 is the IMEI, which shows up as Nexus 6 on a lot of databases (although not in Motorola's haha...).
EDIT: if it is somehow the Moto x pro, maybe that would explain why the phone does not work in the states, and probably why the baseband is different.
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i noticed the different Motorola m on the back after i posted. about the sim, im clueless. maybe the sim reader is broken as well. thats happened to a nexus of mine once.

simms22 said:
i noticed the different Motorola m on the back after i posted. about the sim, im clueless. maybe the sim reader is broken as well. thats happened to a nexus of mine once.
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Its possible, although the phone does recognize the sim card. it just shows no service (similar to how a phone with a bad IMEI acts). How could I verify if the sim reader was broken?

pheonix3330 said:
Its possible, although the phone does recognize the sim card. it just shows no service (similar to how a phone with a bad IMEI acts). How could I verify if the sim reader was broken?
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usually, by sticking in a known working sim into it, and sticking your sim into another phone. but in this situation, i have no idea.

pheonix3330 said:
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Looks like the M logo could be some kind of fingerprint reader.

Regarding the different Motorola logo on the back, I guess, that it could be a fingerprint sensor:
technobuffalo.com/2015/08/05/check-out-this-nexus-6-prototype-with-fingerprint-reader/.
It was planned, but removed. They even had it in their git: shamu: remove fingerprint support.

gee2012 said:
Looks like the M logo could be some kind of fingerprint reader.
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I think you and spartan are right. It feels like it would be a fingerprint sensor, although the M logo threw me off.
It looks exactly like the pictures spartan posted of the fingerprint sensor prototype . perhaps that is why my product variant is P2A and not P3A0.
Would be cool to get the sensor working.

2 things.
1. What wireless provider sims have you tried?
2. I could help get it working from a kernel side, but if you can't get your hands on the HW lib, it might be impossible

buckmarble said:
2 things.
1. What wireless provider sims have you tried?
2. I could help get it working from a kernel side, but if you can't get your hands on the HW lib, it might be impossible
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Buckmarble! thanks for replying. I have used your kernels in the past and they have always worked great for me
As for wireless providers I have tried, I inserted a Verizon and T mobile sim card (both working on other phones) and had no service although the phone did recognize a sim was inserted.
What do you mean by getting my hands on the HW lib?
Again, thanks for posting.

pheonix3330 said:
Buckmarble! thanks for replying. I have used your kernels in the past and they have always worked great for me
As for wireless providers I have tried, I inserted a Verizon and T mobile sim card (both working on other phones) and had no service although the phone did recognize a sim was inserted.
What do you mean by getting my hands on the HW lib?
Again, thanks for posting.
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@Spartaner25 linked to a commit that removed the fingerprint scanner support. In that commit it copied and set permissions on a hardware lib for the scanner.
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buckmarble said:
@Spartaner25 linked to a commit that removed the fingerprint scanner support. In that commit it copied and set permissions on a hardware lib for the scanner.
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Well, I think I'm going to go ahead and sell the phone on eBay to someone that uses these phones overseas. I'm not confident in my ability to get the phone working with my network so I am trying to get my money back.
I explained to him what kind of phone this was and he told me that if it didn't work with his country's network he would return it to me. If he does end up returning it to me, would you be okay with me sending you a message asking for help with this buck?

pheonix3330 said:
Well, I think I'm going to go ahead and sell the phone on eBay to someone that uses these phones overseas. I'm not confident in my ability to get the phone working with my network so I am trying to get my money back.
I explained to him what kind of phone this was and he told me that if it didn't work with his country's network he would return it to me. If he does end up returning it to me, would you be okay with me sending you a message asking for help with this buck?
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Absolutely. Let me know
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Manufacturing date
pheonix3330 said:
Well, I think I'm going to go ahead and sell the phone on eBay to someone that uses these phones overseas. I'm not confident in my ability to get the phone working with my network so I am trying to get my money back.
I explained to him what kind of phone this was and he told me that if it didn't work with his country's network he would return it to me. If he does end up returning it to me, would you be okay with me sending you a message asking for help with this buck?
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Hi,
Very interesting phone, thanks for having taken the risk.
Before selling it, can you post the manufacture date (Bootloader -> Barcodes) ?

You said that it shows as an XT1103. That's the US Nexus 6. The XT1100 is the international Nexus 6. The Moto X Pro is XT1115.
What you have there is a prototype US Nexus 6.
Try an app like LTE Discovery to see if the radio is even working and detecting towers.

If the phone is, indeed, a prototype. Shouldn't it be running Lollipop instead of M with Nov. security patch? Strange.

antiquezip said:
If the phone is, indeed, a prototype. Shouldn't it be running Lollipop instead of M with Nov. security patch? Strange.
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It was running a developer version of Android 5.0.1 when I bought it but I flashed latest software from google.

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[Q] Droid 4 in Canada (Rogers?)

I need a new phone with a physical keyboard. Was looking at the Droid4, which appears to have the best physical keyboard around, but am a bit of a newb at this stuff. My old HTC Dream (G1) is dying, and I need to figure this out sooner then later. Haha
Can it be unlocked to work on Rogers Wireless in Canada?
As of right now, no.
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As of right now, no.
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Thnx. Is it a case of no unlock? Or (lack of knowledge here) no GSM support?
Also, once an android device is rooted, is there an unlock app of some kind? Or?
demungtoe said:
Thnx. Is it a case of no unlock? Or (lack of knowledge here) no GSM support?
Also, once an android device is rooted, is there an unlock app of some kind? Or?
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Currently GSM support is disabled in the firmware and AFAIK it will stay that way until Verizon releases an update to enable it.
Was a bit disappointing they do not have the global services available on the Droid 4. If your looking for a device with keyboard right now you may be able to pick up a used Droid 2 Global. I know those work up there as I had one when I was in Canada last year.
All I can say is, damn. I can't believe how messed up the mobile phone industry is. There is a device, I want to use it, so much so that I'm willing to pay the crazy $549.99 pricetag for it. However, they've decided that I'm not allowed to use it on my network. I hope chinese clones step up their game! Heh.
I was contemplating a droid3, however don't want to spend too much since I may want the droid4 once its actually usable.
I was contemplating picking up a motorola flipout for the meantime, cheap and weird looking!
Also, this probably isn't the right place for a question about this, but I'm at a loss as to what the heck unlock codes actually are (are they issued by the carrier? or hardware manufacturer?) and why there are numerous scammy websites selling them. Can anyone recommend a site I can do some reading about this on? About why I'll probably have to pay for one? I may need to know this if I pickup a different used phone.
The SIM Unlock codes are usually given by the carrier to their paid customers. Verizon will give them out if you have had an account in good standing for 6 months if I recall right.
As for sites to get the unlock codes, I cannot make any recommendations due to I have never paid for them. I have however seen on sites like deals extreme unlocker SIMs that go between the phone and the SIM but have no idea if or how well those work.
Also if you buy a used device you may be able to get one that has been SIM unlocked already. The SIM unlock is a one time task, even if the phone gets wiped or reset it will remain SIM unlocked.
I still keep my G1 as a spare. My next step from that was a TouchPro2 - it comes with WindowsMobile, but I'm running XDAndroid on it. It has an excellent keyboard. I think I still like the TP2 keyboard better than my D4's keyboard.
But, the TP2 has the exact same processor as the G1, and only a tiny bit more RAM. It has a much higher screen rez (800x480) but no faster hardware, so it is noticeably slow.
If I were you I'd look at picking up a used Droid3. I was considering the D3 as my next phone from the TP2, but waited instead for the D4 to come out. As it is, I'm finding that Verizon's 4G service is cutting out all the time on me, so it's still better as a 3G phone. And I'm heading off to Europe in a couple weeks, and will have to bring my G1 or my TP2 on the trip anyway.
Curses to Qualcomm, Motorola, and Verizon. Verizon for their stupid policies and selling a phone with full-featured hardware and intentionally crippled software. Motorola for their locked firmware that prevents end-users, who have legitimately paid for and *own* the damn hardware, from installing software on it as they see fit. Qualcomm for preventing end-users (again, who have legitimately paid for and *own* the hardware) from even seeing the specifications so that they can provide their own software.
demungtoe said:
All I can say is, damn. I can't believe how messed up the mobile phone industry is. There is a device, I want to use it, so much so that I'm willing to pay the crazy $549.99 pricetag for it. However, they've decided that I'm not allowed to use it on my network. I hope chinese clones step up their game! Heh.
I was contemplating a droid3, however don't want to spend too much since I may want the droid4 once its actually usable.
I was contemplating picking up a motorola flipout for the meantime, cheap and weird looking!
Also, this probably isn't the right place for a question about this, but I'm at a loss as to what the heck unlock codes actually are (are they issued by the carrier? or hardware manufacturer?) and why there are numerous scammy websites selling them. Can anyone recommend a site I can do some reading about this on? About why I'll probably have to pay for one? I may need to know this if I pickup a different used phone.
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Bell sells the Motorola XT860, I'm currently using it unlocked on Rogers without a hitch. The only issue, I'm not sure if this phone will get official ICS support... The devs are hacking away at getting all of the cool ICS features up and running though
You can probably find an XT860 on Kijiji, Craigslist or even eBay for a lot cheaper than the full Bell price... heck they were giving them away on 3 year contracts during xmas. You might want to check out the Droid3 forums in the meantime to get some more info on XT860
Fwiw, i'm in Ireland now and popped an Irish SIM into the phone. Interestingly enough, you can swap the SIM while the phone is powered on, in Airplane mode. It still didn't work, but the phone didn't complain about any SIM lock. But when I rebooted the phone, it complained then.
There are properties in /system/build.prop for enabling world-mode. I turned these on, but looking at the radio logcat, it seems that our current libril-xxx.so just doesn't support any GSM commands.
The interesting thing is that the Motorola Atrix has the same Qualcomm MDM6600 radio modem as this phone. I'm going to look for an Atrix ROM and see if I can kang some libril files from there to see if I can get any further. (Btw, I wrote the multimode RIL for the XDAndroid ROM; this sort of investigation is my specialty...)
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I hope they hurry with this. I want this phone now. Its ridiculous that users outside USA cannot use this phone.
Bump, any development?
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Bump, any development?
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Look at the thread titled "Droid 4 for Hong Konger" in this forum for instructions on how to unlock GSM capability. This only came about a few days ago.
Dave Lister said:
Look at the thread titled "Droid 4 for Hong Konger" in this forum for instructions on how to unlock GSM capability. This only came about a few days ago.
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And it's still not stable from what I've read...
This phone is too early to jump into for me. I'll stick to my 4G Slide for now and check back on this device in a few months. Maybe development will pick up by then and they'll have the GSM thing sorted out
Bumping this again. Any news?
I'm in the same situation as OP. Need to upgrade phone (from a Desire Z) and want something with physical keyboard. Droid 4 seems like the best bet.
eksobr said:
Bumping this again. Any news?
I'm in the same situation as OP. Need to upgrade phone (from a Desire Z) and want something with physical keyboard. Droid 4 seems like the best bet.
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The phone worked fine for me on Rogers when I had it. I did a bunch of tweaking in order to get all of the functions working, but this was back in ICS. Also, no LTE is available...
But you're much better off going full touchscreen, just get used to it... I think keyboard phones are going the way of the dinosaur
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eksobr said:
Bumping this again. Any news?
I'm in the same situation as OP. Need to upgrade phone (from a Desire Z) and want something with physical keyboard. Droid 4 seems like the best bet.
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danifunker said:
The phone worked fine for me on Rogers when I had it. I did a bunch of tweaking in order to get all of the functions working, but this was back in ICS. Also, no LTE is available...
But you're much better off going full touchscreen, just get used to it... I think keyboard phones are going the way of the dinosaur
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OK guys this is perfect timing.. and i dont have much support for th eextra tweaking issues we have in Canada, with some of these phones and roms..
Anyhow. Heres my story.. You will like the ending!!
Ive owned a Droid 3 (XT860-BELLMOBILITY) for over a year now.. I came from the original Milestone 1 from Telus Mobililty.
4 weeks ago I had my Droid 3 stolen from me in the laundry room of my condo.. Well it was more.. forgotten by me (i think it was lost there.. for sure!!) and some lucky sole got their hands on it.. I can now use google and its cached pages of kijiji to see that it wass posted the day of.. lol ive got the kid selling other goods so its only a matter of time before i force karma upon him
I took a risk, but being desperate QWERTYDROID junkies like we are, and bought an American Verizon Droid 3 (XT862)
--Keep in mind that i knew nothing about unlocking, rooting, restoring, and doing the whole ROM/Bootstrap/TWRP/SAFEBOOT etc.. Im 35, been into pc's since i was 15, but never into MAC or LINUX.
At this point ive bricked these phones and the next one i speak about dozens of times, while attempting to do the practice makes perfect sort of journey to see what works, what doesnt, what sometimes does, etc.. Its always ended up being able to use the original stock rom's with no problems. (sometimes bloatwear was anoying) but not much support for our radios and etc.
So i had a bit of trouble getting this verizon droid 3 up and running as verizon themselves gives us extra work by trying to secure the load up of the activation process. Either way.. it worked, and still does, and ive gotten a few roms working on it like all SteelDroid, CM10.1, MiniMoto, and possibly a couple others. but these were the ones that can and will work, with a bit of trial and error.
shoot gotta run for a few minutes. so i wanna post this so i dont lose it all.
PART 2 of this story to follow within an hour!! But ill give you a bit of a spoiler.
I am using a Droid 4 now.. as a poster said justr before me, he had many issues to get past, well so did I, but them came the huge hurdles to get over also..
Still have my droid 3 xt862 that was wanting to sell. though,, im still not for certain ready to part with it..
be back shortly sorry about this..
next part in next post
What happened????
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eksobr said:
Bumping this again. Any news?
I'm in the same situation as OP. Need to upgrade phone (from a Desire Z) and want something with physical keyboard. Droid 4 seems like the best bet.
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As far as I'm aware, there shouldn't be any problem getting this to run on a GSM network outside the United States. If the phone is on ICS or JB the GSM is unlocked already. If you use any of the ROM's, there's a thread in the "Droid 4 Android Development" called "Enable GSM on any ROM Patch" which should fully enable it.
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demungtoe said:
I need a new phone with a physical keyboard. Was looking at the Droid4, which appears to have the best physical keyboard around, but am a bit of a newb at this stuff. My old HTC Dream (G1) is dying, and I need to figure this out sooner then later. Haha
Can it be unlocked to work on Rogers Wireless in Canada?
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I have a Droid4, updated with android 4.1, and I can confirm you that it works with Rogers

[Q] Non-US Region M7_U (801e) advice.

To make a long story short, I've destroyed my HTC One XL that I bought for AT&T and I still have 5 months until I am eligible for upgrade. Out of desperation I purchased a factory unlocked HTC One (M7) via Amazon and it was apparently through a third party market place seller.
The phone's packaging, images etc., is completely in Spanish, listed as made in China, running the IMEI(on the box) through an info database it lists the model as the 801e, primary reporting body is BABT and it appears to be valid.
My questions are as follows:
1.) Assuming this is the 801e and M7_U model and not a US/English region phone based on the language clues, what problems will I have running this thing in the US on the AT&T and/or other carrier networks? Obviously there will be no LTE, but will it even work/activate at all once I put my AT&T Sim in? I'm assuming I can change the language. I am in the US in case that wasn't obvious already.
2.) What issues may I have further down the line regarding software/firmware updates etc.
Basically, I have a short time window to return this thing. Since I am in dire need of a phone and am already out a ton of cash trying to fix the one I have so I can't really afford to keep playing around with things. More than likely I'll have to pay a restocking fee for it even though it wasn't opened and who knows how long for the refund to go through.
So any advice? I guess I'm a bit of a rookie...
Loki_Agent_of_Chaos said:
To make a long story short, I've destroyed my HTC One XL that I bought for AT&T and I still have 5 months until I am eligible for upgrade. Out of desperation I purchased a factory unlocked HTC One (M7) via Amazon and it was apparently through a third party market place seller.
The phone's packaging, images etc., is completely in Spanish, listed as made in China, running the IMEI(on the box) through an info database it lists the model as the 801e, primary reporting body is BABT and it appears to be valid.
My questions are as follows:
1.) Assuming this is the 801e and M7_U model and not a US/English region phone based on the language clues, what problems will I have running this thing in the US on the AT&T and/or other carrier networks? Obviously there will be no LTE, but will it even work/activate at all once I put my AT&T Sim in?
2.) What issues may I have further down the line regarding software/firmware updates etc.
Basically, I have a short time window to return this thing. Since I am in dire need of a phone and am already out a ton of cash trying to fix the one I have so I can't really afford to keep playing around with things. More than likely I'll have to pay a restocking fee for it even though it wasn't opened and who knows how long for the refund to go through.
So any advice? I guess I'm a bit of a rookie...
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Your sim will work, all roms will work, just no LTE
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n1234d said:
Your sim will work, all roms will work, just no LTE
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I appreciate the quick reply. Will the language/region of the phone cause me to run in to any barriers? I'm assuming I can change the language under the preferences.
Loki_Agent_of_Chaos said:
I appreciate the quick reply. Will the language/region of the phone cause me to run in to any barriers? I'm assuming I can change the language under the preferences.
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I don't think so, because English should be offered with all CIDs, and anyways, you can just convert your phone to the European edition or developer edition with s-off
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n1234d said:
I don't think so, because English should be offered with all CIDs, and anyways, you can just convert your phone to the European edition or developer edition with s-off
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Fair enough. Thanks again. I guess my real concern was whether or not the IMEI would register/work with my carrier here in the US. I've owned several unlocked phones over the years, but this is the first time I ever received one where it was in a completely different language/region thus the cause for my concern.
Well I bit the bullet and opened it and am currently using it. So far so good, well despite that it's only 3G. To further feed my morbid curiousity regarding my rampant paranoia, any surefire ways to determine if it is a fake? So far screenshot images are 1080x1920, camera is fluuid and image sizes are 2688x1520, both work and are quite loud, phone feels heavy but I have nothing to compare it to. Can't really tell if case is plastic or aluminum I guess I'll go have to check one in a store for that. Am I missing anything?
Loki_Agent_of_Chaos said:
Well I bit the bullet and opened it and am currently using it. So far so good, well despite that it's only 3G. To further feed my morbid curiousity regarding my rampant paranoia, any surefire ways to determine if it is a fake? So far screenshot images are 1080x1920, camera is fluuid and image sizes are 2688x1520, both work and are quite loud, phone feels heavy but I have nothing to compare it to. Can't really tell if case is plastic or aluminum I guess I'll go have to check one in a store for that. Am I missing anything?
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Nope, everything's good. You did check it through the database, and 801e is the right model no, and just for the heck of it, check your camera, at least you'll know if you're gonna get the pink tint or no. Go to /sys/android_camera and open the sensor file as text. Show me what you get
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n1234d said:
Nope, everything's good. You did check it through the database, and 801e is the right model no, and just for the heck of it, check your camera, at least you'll know if you're gonna get the pink tint or no. Go to /sys/android_camera and open the sensor file as text. Show me what you get
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st vd6869(1.0) cinesensor 2002-01-01
Loki_Agent_of_Chaos said:
st vd6869(1.0) cinesensor 2002-01-01
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2002?? WTH? Phone is legit though..
Cover the phone lens with your hand completely and see if the camera gives you the pink tint problem..
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n1234d said:
2002?? WTH? Phone is legit though..
Cover the phone lens with your hand completely and see if the camera gives you the pink tint problem..
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Yeah I was a little put off by that as well. Not sure exactly what I'm looking for but if I cover the lens with my hand it's just a black screen. So I suppose it doesn't suffer from that affliction. I haven't snapped many photos yet though but all in due time I suppose.
Thanks for all the info!

Motorola Experimental Nexus 6 Confidential Property?

Hey guys, I seem to have fallen into a unique device. I managed to get my hands on a Motorola Experimental Nexus 6 that had Moto's development software on it so I flashed stock 5.1 it has labeled on the bottom...Motorola Confidential Property Not For Sale. It has the Motorola Logo upper left corner and 0411-23666 in the upper right corner with a chip inscription as well. The back of the device doesn't even have Nexus on it. See picts 64gb XT1100. I already have a 64gb xt1103 so I kinda don't know which one i should sell on swappa. Any sugestions I plugged in my T-Mo sim card and it works fine so no provider issues to speak of but which device should I keep? Does this thing have collector value?? Your thoughts?
swappa or ebay.. you might find a collector willing to pay a little more.
The XT1100 nexus 6 however has no CDMA as its the international version, so i.would recommend testing that and 4G
That's pretty cool.. What are you thinking about selling it for?
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kos26 said:
That's pretty cool.. What are you thinking about selling it for?
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Unless it was like HTC and had a S-off engineer bootloader really not worth any premium. It just an extremely used N6 if was used for testing. Also may have subpar hardware depending where it was in the testing cycle.
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Unless it was like HTC and had a S-off engineer bootloader really not worth any premium. It just an extremely used N6 if was used for testing. Also may have subpar hardware depending where it was in the testing cycle.
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The device came with Moto's internal software and Is a fully tested and compliant unit. I am more than happy to show bench test results. But I tried swappa and they killed it right away, Ha..Ha. As for "extremely used" NOT..Its flawless..funny It had pictures in it from Motorola engineer... But I am a straight shooter and have been on Ebay for 9 years 692 @100% I stand for 100% and swappa the same. If an offer works for me and a buyer I am ok with that; :good:
wiseguyy said:
The device came with Moto's internal software and Is a fully tested and compliant unit. I am more than happy to show bench test results. But I tried swappa and they killed it right away, Ha..Ha. As for "extremely used" NOT..Its flawless..funny It had pictures in it from Motorola engineer... But I am a straight shooter and have been on Ebay for 9 years 692 @100% I stand for 100% and swappa the same. If an offer works for me and a buyer I am ok with that; :good:
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Just saying if nothing different like an engineering bootloader it is just a used Nexus. Even engineering bootloader irrelevant on N6 because it is unlockable. There is no premium to this device except is older than any on the street in my opinion. It was premium if could obtain before N6 was released. Year later it just another N6. If IEMI is blacklisted it is a brick.
Some preprod units had an HDMI out chip (i.e., MHL or something like that).
I say keep it if it works as expected. If the Nexus brand was more popular I would say sell it because it is a rare device and people would be more likely to throw money at it.
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Just saying if nothing different like an engineering bootloader it is just a used Nexus. Even engineering bootloader irrelevant on N6 because it is unlockable. There is no premium to this device except is older than any on the street in my opinion. It was premium if could obtain before N6 was released. Year later it just another N6. If IEMI is blacklisted it is a brick.
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md1008 said:
I say keep it if it works as expected. If the Nexus brand was more popular I would say sell it because it is a rare device and people would be more likely to throw money at it.
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Well I posted it on Craigs list and had an immediate response from an IT Manager over at Cal State University of Long Beach we met at a Starbucks and upon inspection and testing he immediately offered me 600. So like I had previously stated I tested the phone and listed it on Swappa so of course it couldn't be blacklisted and the device was in flawless condition the teacher did mention HDMI so I would have to think it wasn't just another used Nexus or I would suspect the man wouldn't have been so quick to whip out $600. :laugh:
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Well I posted it on Craigs list and had an immediate response from an IT Manager over at Cal State University of Long Beach we met at a Starbucks and upon inspection and testing he immediately offered me 600. So like I had previously stated I tested the phone and listed it on Swappa so of course it couldn't be blacklisted and the device was in flawless condition the teacher did mention HDMI so I would have to think it wasn't just another used Nexus or I would suspect the man wouldn't have been so quick to whip out $600. :laugh:
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There is no guarantee that it has HDMI, unless he actually confirmed it by looking at the hardware version reported by the kernel. HDMI was removed at "some" stage before shipping, and there is no way of telling by the pictures you provided whether that test device was from before or after that change.
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There is no guarantee that it has HDMI, unless he actually confirmed it by looking at the hardware version reported by the kernel. HDMI was removed at "some" stage before shipping, and there is no way of telling by the pictures you provided whether that test device was from before or after that change.
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Well without a doubt he checked on the HDMI and all internal software and tested it and confirmed it prior to paying me so he got exactly what he was after. I received a text today if I had access to any more of these units. Only time will tell...

SM-N950F/DS First Impressions

So I found a SM-N950F/DS on Ebay (They had a few)
When I first opened the Box I thought " Ohhh - did I goof or what - This thing is a weird size!"
I do not like the Curved Screen - but I knew it was curved when I ordered it.
This version has a Holder for either 1 SIM and 1 microSD card - or 2 SIMS
It also came with a Nice not too thick Clear Plastic Case
NOTE: I cannot register it at Samsung's web site (Well at USA's Web site)
I am looking into if I can manage to register it on some other country's Samsung site
It seems fast but I am coming from S7 and Note 4
I sold the S7 and an iPhone SE 64G to help pay for this
I prefer the Note 4 size and screen - but I will see how it goes after a week and report back.
I read a lot on my Note 4 (Both Documents and ebooks) and found it's screen size great, I am not so keen on the Note 8's screen.
So far I am starting to get used to the size.
Battery lasted all day yesterday.
I unplugged it at 515 AM at 9PM it was still going , and I downloaded a lot of data yesterday.
(Large files for some apps I have)
A bit more:
I do not mind the home button being on screen - I have always worried about the Home button going bad. (I only had one that was going bad but still)
(I still do not like the curved screen - I just see no advantage of it so far)
I just discovered a handy setting (for me) :
No more need to slide to answer!
Accessibility -> Single Tap Mode = Allows answer by just a tap vs slide to answer on lock screen.
Keep getting more and more into this Amazing Phone!
(But I still an not keen on size/shape).
It is getting easier to hold now at least - just note ever going to be as nice from reading with curved and narrower screen vs my trusty old Note 4
I have every Note and the size has always been a factor at first. But overtime you become use to the screen size but i must say this is very long phone but videos look great with all the real estate.
N950F/DS is a South East Asia version. I have the same model.
Registered in Malaysia.
More ramblings:
I have CricketWireless.
I setup the HotSpot on my Note 8 and it works!
I tried all sorts of apps and tricks on my (rooted T-Mobile) Note 4 and nothing would work.
(Unless I paid Cricket 10/Month more for it).
Anyway another Great Plus for my Note 8 - Lovin' it more and more each day I use it!
w8wca said:
More ramblings:
I have CricketWireless.
I setup the HotSpot on my Note 8 and it works!
I tried all sorts of apps and tricks on my (rooted T-Mobile) Note 4 and nothing would work.
(Unless I paid Cricket 10/Month more for it).
Anyway another Great Plus for my Note 8 - Lovin' it more and more each day I use it!
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do you have OEM unlock options in developer settings?
masri1987 said:
do you have OEM unlock options in developer settings?
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Yes
w8wca said:
Yes
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Where did you buy it
masri1987 said:
Where did you buy it
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never-msrp on Ebay
w8wca said:
never-msrp on Ebay
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my man, i've been wanting to buy it from there too, but i'm afraid that after i open the box and wait the OEM unlock won't show up.
Do you know if the box was already opened and sim activated with the regional sim prior to sale? Let me know asap , gonna get the orchid grey from them hopefully
masri1987 said:
my man, i've been wanting to buy it from there too, but i'm afraid that after i open the box and wait the OEM unlock won't show up.
Do you know if the box was already opened and sim activated with the regional sim prior to sale? Let me know asap , gonna get the orchid grey from them hopefully
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Mine was not opened.
Not sure what Regional SIM is?
I am in /usa/oh/cmh (Columbus)
By the way I got a 3.99/month Protection plan too!
First Protection plan I ever bought. But seeing as I could not register it with Samsung I thought I would for a year anyway
w8wca said:
Mine was not opened.
Not sure what Regional SIM is?
I am in /usa/oh/cmh (Columbus)
By the way I got a 3.99/month Protection plan too!
First Protection plan I ever bought. But seeing as I could not register it with Samsung I thought I would for a year anyway
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regional sim, meaning the device had to be opened and a sim card from the region of which the device was bought had to be inserted prior to use.
How many days did it take for OEM Unlock to show up? Are you on a different rom? Can you provide screenshots for proof before i pull the trigger on it?
masri1987 said:
regional sim, meaning the device had to be opened and a sim card from the region of which the device was bought had to be inserted prior to use.
How many days did it take for OEM Unlock to show up? Are you on a different rom? Can you provide screenshots for proof before i pull the trigger on it?
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I just put in my SIM from the last phone I was using (And I have also used a FreedomPop as the 2nd SIM - along with a SIM from US Mobile)
As far as I know it was always there. But I did have one large update after I received it.
No Root or other mods done to it.
I have not turned it on - no reason to for me right now.
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As far as I know it was always there. But I did have one large update after I received it.
I have not turned it on - no reason to for me right now.
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screenshot of it's existence please, before i spend 820$ plzzzz
Thank you
masri1987 said:
Thank you
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I think that place has a 30 day guarantee too
w8wca said:
I think that place has a 30 day guarantee too
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If you open it there's a restocking fee lol
itiknila said:
N950F/DS is a South East Asia version. I have the same model.
Registered in Malaysia.
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Are you sure? N9500 is asia, N950F/DS is supposed to be Europe & Americas.
http://www.phonemore.com/compare/phones/galaxy-note-8-sm-n950fd-vs-galaxy-note-8-sm-n9500/6303040

touchscreen issues

Hey
Is anyone having issues with say the top 1/4 of the top of the screen
Occasionally and I cannot reproduce it on command. The top 1/4 of my screen stops responding to touch. I have to turn the screen off and then back on and then it will work fine.
Software or hardware issue?
Anyone else notice this?
Nope. I would try a factory reset at this point and see if it still persists. I think you were also having issues with deep sleep right? If that hasn't been resolved, I'd do a fresh start at this point, especially if you have a possible HW issue on your hands.
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Nope. I would try a factory reset at this point and see if it still persists. I think you were also having issues with deep sleep right? If that hasn't been resolved, I'd do a fresh start at this point, especially if you have a possible HW issue on your hands.
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Already figured the deep sleep issues
As for the touchscreen one. I have done a factory reset. Same. So thinking its hardware at this point
c_86 said:
Already figured the deep sleep issues
As for the touchscreen one. I have done a factory reset. Same. So thinking its hardware at this point
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I would contact support ASAP and get a RMA sent out to you before they start shipping out refurbished devices.
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I would contact support ASAP and get a RMA sent out to you before they start shipping out refurbished devices.
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Well it would be thru the carrier. As I got it via my carrier. So I'll be visiting them tomorrow for an exchange
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Well it would be thru the carrier. As I got it via my carrier. So I'll be visiting them tomorrow for an exchange
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Good luck! I hope you get a defect-free device!
So this is frustrating
Best buy refuses to exchange. I have to send back and be out of a device for 5-15 business days.
Google support is the same
Or I bring to a repair facility. Which is BS. The device is less then 30 days old
So far no support that is actually acceptable.
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So this is frustrating
Best buy refuses to exchange. I have to send back and be out of a device for 5-15 business days.
Google support is the same
Or I bring to a repair facility. Which is BS. The device is less then 30 days old
So far no support that is actually acceptable.
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Google isn't the same... I don't know where you got that - at least, if you purchase it from the Google store. I've exchanged the original pixel 6 times (they had a lot of issues with microphone) and the pixel 3 xl a couple times. Google has always done an advanced replacement so I'm never without a phone. The only thing they require is a hold on a credit card until the return is cleared.
That's one reason I like Google so much and could never go with something like oneplus or htc. That and Google could care less if you root your phone - warranty is still intact.
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Google isn't the same... I don't know where you got that - at least, if you purchase it from the Google store. I've exchanged the original pixel 6 times (they had a lot of issues with microphone) and the pixel 3 xl a couple times. Google has always done an advanced replacement so I'm never without a phone. The only thing they require is a hold on a credit card until the return is cleared.
That's one reason I like Google so much and could never go with something like oneplus or htc. That and Google could care less if you root your phone - warranty is still intact.
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Since i got it from a retailer (and not the google store), the only option presented to my by google was:
1. send in for repair/replacement, no device sent to me first (advanced replacement)
2. bring to authorized repair center
Bestbuy warranty was the same, except no authorized repair was provided, only to send in the device and wait for it to come back to.
Neither provided me with advanced replacement options, even when asking or offering to place a credit card hold/deposit.
c_86 said:
So this is frustrating
Best buy refuses to exchange. I have to send back and be out of a device for 5-15 business days.
Google support is the same
Or I bring to a repair facility. Which is BS. The device is less then 30 days old
So far no support that is actually acceptable.
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Unfortunately this is the case if you don't buy direct from Google. I experienced this the hard way last year with my pixel 3XL... I had a Pixel 1 and 2 XL from Google and loved the advanced exchange program. But when I bought my 3XL from a vendor (because Google were out of stock) it becomes a little annoying being without a phone when you have a warranty issue... Just chalk it up as a lesson to be learned and next year get it from Google directly.
Makes me worries now as I purchased one today via best buy, unlocked, non carrier version.
@OP, was yours also purchased at best buy?
trim81 said:
Makes me worries now as I purchased one today via best buy, unlocked, non carrier version.
@OP, was yours also purchased at best buy?
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Best buy mobile doing an upgrade
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Best buy mobile doing an upgrade
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So is it a carrier branded version? And not the unlocked variant?
Side note : if you have a uBreakiFix store, bring it in, online is saying it's a same day repair
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So is it a carrier branded version? And not the unlocked variant?
Side note : if you have a uBreakiFix store, bring it in, online is saying it's a same day repair
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It's unlocked.
Went to bestbuy to do the upgrade instead of the carrier store.
I have a ubreakifix nearby but that's not the point. I shouldn't have to do a repair on a 30 day device. Should be a swap out. Not a repair.
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It's unlocked.
Went to bestbuy to do the upgrade instead of the carrier store.
I have a ubreakifix nearby but that's not the point. I shouldn't have to do a repair on a 30 day device. Should be a swap out. Not a repair.
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If you did the upgrade, then you must have gotten one of Carrier version (Verizon, att, etc)
You said you went to BB to do the upgrade instead of going to the carrier store, which service is it?
BB also sells the pure unlocked version, Im not sure if carrier branded upgrade offers the pure unlocked version as it's 'upgrade'
Ahh I understand now. Yeah lesson to be learned for next year! Sorry that sucks
trim81 said:
If you did the upgrade, then you must have gotten one of Carrier version (Verizon, att, etc)
You said you went to BB to do the upgrade instead of going to the carrier store, which service is it?
BB also sells the pure unlocked version, Im not sure if carrier branded upgrade offers the pure unlocked version as it's 'upgrade'
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Yes they do. No devices are allowed to be locked in Canada. Against the law now.
Its frustrating. Regardless. It's a manufacturer device and I'm stuck with either being out of a device for days. Or repairing it

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