Hi,
I have a huawei ideos (older non X6 version) and supposedly it is unlocked. It works with 2g/edge. It does not work with 3g. I have looked for APN information and the info downloaded to the phone when I connected to network is identical to what is listed on the net.
tmobile docs url not allowed
i had to add the MMSC setting since it was not there as listed in step 12.
Things which are odd. When choosing access network, it does not say T-mobile 3G. It only says T-mobile 2g, Att 2g and Att 3g. According to the net this phone supports the frequencies for tmobile.
gsm link for u8150 not allowed.
shows HSDPA 900 / 2100 / AWS
HSDPA 850 / 1900 / 2100 / 1700
And
wikipedia entry for tmobile not allowed
shows
1700 MHz/2100 MHz UMTS (W-CDMA)/HSPA 4G (formerly 3G[31]) 2006 2008 (3G), 2010 (Marketed as 4G) First carrier in the U.S. to deploy services on AWS frequencies. Markets HSPA+ as "4G". UMTS band IV
Not sure if HSPDA spec is same as HSPA though.
I did the trick where you enter #*#*4636*#*#* and checked phone settings. I changed to GSM auto (PRL). I also tried to hit menu and select radio band, but it pulls up an empty "Set GSM/UMTS Band" dialog. There is nothing to select.
I guess my question is, does this phone support 3G for t-mobile and if so, what setting am I missing?
thanks in advance.
John
Wrong phone forum this is likely to get frozen.
hi
if u look in the android general forum i did see a few threads for u8150
u have a better chance of getting ur answer their
goodluck
thanks
Thanks, I moved the question to general forum.
The "specs" of the two phones are:
GSM
Bluetooth® Technology 1
4.0 LE + EDR
Wi-Fi
802.11a/g/b/n/ac (dual band capable), mobile hotspot
Networks
GSM/GPRS/EDGE - UMTS/HSPA + up to 42 Mbps - 4G LTE
2G/2.5G GSM/GPRS/EDGE bands
850/900/1800/1900 MHz
3G UMTS bands
850/900/ AWS/1900/2100 MHz with HSPA+ up to 42 Mbps (B5/B8/B4/B2/B1)
4G LTE bands
700/AWS/1900MHz (B17/B4/B2)
CDMA
Bluetooth® Technology 1
4.0 LE + EDR
Wi-Fi
802.11a/g/b/n/ac (dual band capable), mobile hotspot
Networks
GSM/GPRS/EDGE - UMTS/HSPA + up to 42 Mbps - CDMA/EVDO Rev. A - 4G LTE
2G/2.5G GSM/GPRS/EDGE bands
850/900/1800/1900 MHz
3G UMTS bands
850/900/1900/2100 MHz with HSPA+ up to 42 Mbps (B5/B8/B2/B1)
3G CDMA bands
EVDO Rev. A: 850/1900 MHz (BC0/BC1)
4G LTE bands
750 MHz (B13)
Based on these specs, the difference seems to be in the 4G LTE bands and the CDMA version lacks UMTS B4. Both support GSM.
If I believe the specs, inserting a GSM sim in a CDMA unlocked moto s (developer edition) should give me the same GSM coverage as the GSM phone for voice....and for 3G data, as long as it's not on B4. I should not get any 4G LTE. But I wonder if I should really believe the specs because it almost makes no sense for motorola to have created two different chips/loads for the phones. What would happen if I put the t-mobile or ATT oem load on a CDMA unlocked phone? would it even work? would I really not get LTE since GSM LTE doesn't use 700mhz?
Any thoughts. There doesn't seem to be anyone at motorola who can answer the question...other than looking at the specs....
The reason for the question is I need Verizon in the US (for coverage), but GSM when travelling. I am thinking of getting a net10 sim for travel. Will it work?
(note: I posted a similar question in Q&A a few days ago, but no real response other than pointing to the specs).
ghstudio said:
The "specs" of the two phones are:
GSM
Bluetooth® Technology 1
4.0 LE + EDR
Wi-Fi
802.11a/g/b/n/ac (dual band capable), mobile hotspot
Networks
GSM/GPRS/EDGE - UMTS/HSPA + up to 42 Mbps - 4G LTE
2G/2.5G GSM/GPRS/EDGE bands
850/900/1800/1900 MHz
3G UMTS bands
850/900/ AWS/1900/2100 MHz with HSPA+ up to 42 Mbps (B5/B8/B4/B2/B1)
4G LTE bands
700/AWS/1900MHz (B17/B4/B2)
CDMA
Bluetooth® Technology 1
4.0 LE + EDR
Wi-Fi
802.11a/g/b/n/ac (dual band capable), mobile hotspot
Networks
GSM/GPRS/EDGE - UMTS/HSPA + up to 42 Mbps - CDMA/EVDO Rev. A - 4G LTE
2G/2.5G GSM/GPRS/EDGE bands
850/900/1800/1900 MHz
3G UMTS bands
850/900/1900/2100 MHz with HSPA+ up to 42 Mbps (B5/B8/B2/B1)
3G CDMA bands
EVDO Rev. A: 850/1900 MHz (BC0/BC1)
4G LTE bands
750 MHz (B13)
Based on these specs, the difference seems to be in the 4G LTE bands and the CDMA version lacks UMTS B4. Both support GSM.
If I believe the specs, inserting a GSM sim in a CDMA unlocked moto s (developer edition) should give me the same GSM coverage as the GSM phone for voice....and for 3G data, as long as it's not on B4. I should not get any 4G LTE. But I wonder if I should really believe the specs because it almost makes no sense for motorola to have created two different chips/loads for the phones. What would happen if I put the t-mobile or ATT oem load on a CDMA unlocked phone? would it even work? would I really not get LTE since GSM LTE doesn't use 700mhz?
Any thoughts. There doesn't seem to be anyone at motorola who can answer the question...other than looking at the specs....
The reason for the question is I need Verizon in the US (for coverage), but GSM when travelling. I am thinking of getting a net10 sim for travel. Will it work?
(note: I posted a similar question in Q&A a few days ago, but no real response other than pointing to the specs).
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as far as i know. the reason I know this, is because before I figured out a way to get my Moto x (standard non dev. edition) to keep my unlmited data, I checked into getting a Blu phone.. they're GSM.. So, you can't use on verizon.. I was looking into net10 and they're GSM. So I don't see why it wouldn't work, however I never went threw with it, so please don't hold it to me.
Putting an AT&T or T-Mobile SIM in the CDMA phone, you probably wouldn't get LTE, as I don't think they share any bands with VZW for LTE. You might get HSPA+ though, depending on what bands are in use around you. You shouldn't have any issues travelling though, as most other countries use the GSM bands supported by the VZW model. So, basically, your only big issue would be getting "4G" service when in the US if you aren't using VZW.
imnuts said:
Putting an AT&T or T-Mobile SIM in the CDMA phone, you probably wouldn't get LTE, as I don't think they share any bands with VZW for LTE. You might get HSPA+ though, depending on what bands are in use around you. You shouldn't have any issues travelling though, as most other countries use the GSM bands supported by the VZW model. So, basically, your only big issue would be getting "4G" service when in the US if you aren't using VZW.
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That's pretty much exactly what I want....if I use data at all, it could be 2g speed...my main concern is "in an emergency" phone calls. It looks like just using the phone for GSM calls is only a matter of getting a worldwide sim, or buying a local one which would work in any unlocked GSM capable phone. Now, if I decide to move to a US based GSM carrier, that's a different story where data is important.
I doubt that the hardware in the phones differs at all....just the enablement of the radios/bands. I would bet there is a way to turn on all the GSM bands on a CDMA phone...although it may not be accessible to customers.
I'm going to try a GSM Sim in the phone in the US and see what I can do (or not do).
Thanks.
The hardware is most certainly different. The parts are not installed to do CDMA in a GSM developer edition, and the parts are not installed to add additional bands with a simple firmware hack.
I have verizon for personal, and one work line, and T-Mobile USA as another work line.
When I first got my Developer Edition Moto X for Verizon, and it had 4.2.2, I could put my T-Mobile US SIM in, it received APN settings and worked, at Edge speeds.
After the Kit Kat update, putting my T-Mobile US SIM in I got message that I had an unsupported sim installed which also stayed in the notification pull down, and I had to manually enter the APN settings for T-Mobile to get working voice/data. Again I got Edge speeds. However MMS didn't work but this could have been due to incorrect APN settings.
Just now, I tried and while I got a pop up unsupported SIM message, but it didn't stay in the notification area, and I did get EDGE data, with emails coming in and apps updating from the play store. When I went under Settings - Mobile Network - Access Point names, nothing is filled in. Trying to create and save one, it doesn't appear either. After a few minutes, I got 4G LTE in the notification area. Under Settings -> About Phone -> Status. It shows LTE (without band number). While it shows ICCID (sim card number), it says Unknown under My Phone Number and Min. Data works, Speed test gives me 28Mbps down and 7Mbps up, but also received intermittent "network communication issues" during the upload tests. Dropbox auto uploads fine as I took a picture with the X and my PC notified me of a new dropbox file. While SMS send/receive and voice calls work, MMS send doesn't.
As for the network communication issues... I saw the same thing when using my VZW iPhone 5S which does support more bands than the VZW X, at least comparing Apple and Moto's web sites. I see the iPhone 5S switch between HSPA and LTE when using the T-Mobile SIM.
In my area it appears T-Mobile has re-farmed their 1900Mhz to HSPA
KidJoe said:
I have verizon for personal, and one work line, and T-Mobile USA as another work line.
When I first got my Developer Edition Moto X for Verizon, and it had 4.2.2, I could put my T-Mobile US SIM in, it received APN settings and worked, at Edge speeds.
After the Kit Kat update, putting my T-Mobile US SIM in I got message that I had an unsupported sim installed which also stayed in the notification pull down, and I had to manually enter the APN settings for T-Mobile to get working voice/data. Again I got Edge speeds. However MMS didn't work but this could have been due to incorrect APN settings.
Just now, I tried and while I got a pop up unsupported SIM message, but it didn't stay in the notification area, and I did get EDGE data, with emails coming in and apps updating from the play store. When I went under Settings - Mobile Network - Access Point names, nothing is filled in. Trying to create and save one, it doesn't appear either. After a few minutes, I got 4G LTE in the notification area. Under Settings -> About Phone -> Status. It shows LTE (without band number). While it shows ICCID (sim card number), it says Unknown under My Phone Number and Min. Data works, Speed test gives me 28Mbps down and 7Mbps up, but also received intermittent "network communication issues" during the upload tests. Dropbox auto uploads fine as I took a picture with the X and my PC notified me of a new dropbox file. While SMS send/receive and voice calls work, MMS send doesn't.
As for the network communication issues... I saw the same thing when using my VZW iPhone 5S which does support more bands than the VZW X, at least comparing Apple and Moto's web sites. I see the iPhone 5S switch between HSPA and LTE when using the T-Mobile SIM.
In my area it appears T-Mobile has re-farmed their 1900Mhz to HSPA
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So you picked up t-mobile LTE with a verizon phone using the t-mobile sim??? If the bands are preset as in the specs, that can't happen
Why do you think that happpened?? Perhaps the CDMA version isn't limited to 750mhz/band 13.
ghstudio said:
So you picked up t-mobile LTE with a verizon phone using the t-mobile sim??? If the bands are preset as in the specs, that can't happen
Why do you think that happpened?? Perhaps the CDMA version isn't limited to 750mhz/band 13.
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Band 4 LTE is also supported on the verizon phone...I don't know if that's why the t-mobile sim picked up lte or not but LTE is 13 and 4 on the verizon variant.
ghstudio said:
So you picked up t-mobile LTE with a verizon phone using the t-mobile sim??? If the bands are preset as in the specs, that can't happen
Why do you think that happpened?? Perhaps the CDMA version isn't limited to 750mhz/band 13.
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Yes. With the T-Mobile SIM inserted into my VZW X, the "signal indicator" in the Status bar area showed 4GLTE, and under settings -> About Phone -> Status.. Mobile Network Type reported LTE.
It was thought that VZW had enabled LTE Band 4 with the Kit Kat update on the X, like Verizon did with a recent update to the Galaxy S4. I've seen a few posts here, and on other forums asking for confirmation, how can someone tell what LTE band their X is using, and such... but no definate answer.
T-Mobile's LTE is band 4 in some areas.
ghstudio said:
The reason for the question is I need Verizon in the US (for coverage), but GSM when travelling. I am thinking of getting a net10 sim for travel. Will it work?.
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yes, it will work for talk and text but maybe not for LTE.
KidJoe said:
I have verizon for personal, and one work line, and T-Mobile USA as another work line.
When I first got my Developer Edition Moto X for Verizon, and it had 4.2.2, I could put my T-Mobile US SIM in, it received APN settings and worked, at Edge speeds.
After the Kit Kat update, putting my T-Mobile US SIM in I got message that I had an unsupported sim installed which also stayed in the notification pull down, and I had to manually enter the APN settings for T-Mobile to get working voice/data. Again I got Edge speeds. However MMS didn't work but this could have been due to incorrect APN settings.
Just now, I tried and while I got a pop up unsupported SIM message, but it didn't stay in the notification area, and I did get EDGE data, with emails coming in and apps updating from the play store. When I went under Settings - Mobile Network - Access Point names, nothing is filled in. Trying to create and save one, it doesn't appear either. After a few minutes, I got 4G LTE in the notification area. Under Settings -> About Phone -> Status. It shows LTE (without band number). While it shows ICCID (sim card number), it says Unknown under My Phone Number and Min. Data works, Speed test gives me 28Mbps down and 7Mbps up, but also received intermittent "network communication issues" during the upload tests. Dropbox auto uploads fine as I took a picture with the X and my PC notified me of a new dropbox file. While SMS send/receive and voice calls work, MMS send doesn't.
As for the network communication issues... I saw the same thing when using my VZW iPhone 5S which does support more bands than the VZW X, at least comparing Apple and Moto's web sites. I see the iPhone 5S switch between HSPA and LTE when using the T-Mobile SIM.
In my area it appears T-Mobile has re-farmed their 1900Mhz to HSPA
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hey, KidJoe i got a moto x from us cellular but when i insert the sim card the cell says that the sim card is not accept and the cell doesnt get signal, i try to unlock it, but i couldn´t, if you have any solution for me please help me :crying::crying::crying::crying:
I'm running AT&T on a Verizon Developer Edition Moto X. I have good coverage (better than my old Nokia 520) and I get HSPA+ everywhere I go. I'm perfectly fine without LTE since I can still run anything and stream stuff with current speeds. A big plus is I can always switch to Verizon or other CDMAs if I want to.
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I am on AT&T and the reason I bought this phone was because, according to the specs in the FCC site, it has LTE Band 17 (which is the most common one for AT&T).
I was only getting 3G (HSPA+) speeds. I followed the following procedure to enable LTE for data and still be able to place/receive phone calls:
Do this at your own risk
Open the dial pad
Type: *#0011# to enter Service Mode (Be very careful with what you do here)
Note: You need to be rooted for this to work
Once in Service Mode, do the following:
Tap the menu button and tap Back
Tap the menu button again and select "Key Input" and enter an upper case Q and press OK
Tap the menu button again and select "Key Input" and enter 4 zeroes (0000) and press OK
Wait from 5 to 15 seconds. You'll see the Main Menu
Choose option [2]: UE SETTING & INFO
Choose option [1]: SETTING
Choose option [1]: PROTOCOL
Choose option [2]: NAS
Choose option [1]: NETWORK CONTROL
Choose option [4]: BAND SELECTION
Choose option [4]: LTE Band Preference
Choose option [7]: LTE ALL (Or you can choose band 17 instead)
Tap the menu button and choose Back (Don't press the back key)
Tap again the menu button and choose Back
Choose option [6]: LTE/WCDMA Mode Only
Press the back key to exit
And that's it: You now have LTE and calls if using AT&T. This won't work with TMobile.
If you reboot your phone, you may need to repeat the steps.
miscom said:
I am on AT&T and the reason I bought this phone is because, according to the specs in the FCC site, it has LTE Band 17 (which is the most common one for AT&T).
I was only getting 3G (HSPA+) speeds. I followed the following procedure to enable LTE for data and still be able to place/receive phone calls:
Do this at your own risk
Open the dial pad
Type: *#0011# to enter Service Mode (Be very careful with what you do here)
Note: You need to be rooted for this to work
Once in Service Mode, do the following:
Tap the menu button and tap Back
Tap the menu button again and select "Key Input" and enter an upper case Q and press OK
Tap the menu button again and select "Key Input" and enter 4 zeroes (0000) and press OK
Wait from 5 to 15 seconds. You'll see the Main Menu
Choose option [2]: UE SETTING & INFO
Choose option [1]: SETTING
Choose option [1]: PROTOCOL
Choose option [2]: NAS
Choose option [1]: NETWORK CONTROL
Choose option [4]: BAND SELECTION
Choose option [4]: LTE Band Preference
Choose option [7]: LTE ALL (Or you can choose band 17 instead)
Tap the menu button and choose Back (Don't press the back key)
Tap again the menu button and choose Back
Choose option [6]: LTE/WCDMA Mode Only
Press the back key to exit
And that's it: You now have LTE and calls if using AT&T. This won't work with TMobile.
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I am confused. I am also on ATT - I bought this phone back when it first came out. All I did was add the ATT APN and then I was able to get LTE just fine. I didn't have to do anything like you described.
So - are you saying you added your APN and still had to go thru all of those steps?
mocsab said:
I am confused. I am also on ATT - I bought this phone back when it first came out. All I did was add the ATT APN and then I was able to get LTE just fine. I didn't have to do anything like you described.
So - are you saying you added your APN and still had to go thru all of those steps?
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Yes, that's exactly what happened to me. For some reason B17 was not enabled in my phone.
miscom said:
Yes, that's exactly what happened to me. For some reason B17 was not enabled in my phone.
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That brings up another question - If I am getting LTE now - does that mean I am already getting data via that Band you mentioned ? Or could it be that I am getting it from some other band? (forgive these noobie type questions - I really don't know that much about this)
and is there a difference between the speeed you can get from any of the different bands?
mocsab said:
That brings up another question - If I am getting LTE now - does that mean I am already getting data via that Band you mentioned ? Or could it be that I am getting it from some other band? (forgive these noobie type questions - I really don't know that much about this)
and is there a difference between the speeed you can get from any of the different bands?
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Try this free app to show you what LTE band you are using
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.simplyadvanced.ltediscovery
Most likely if you are on AT&T is band 17.
The higher the frequency the most difficult it is for the signal to travel farther or into building. You'll better results if you are receiving on 700MHz than 2600MHz, but that is determined by your carrier (although there are ways to manually change it)
Yup my AT&T LTE bands weren't activated as well. Had to go through these steps and they worked perfectly!
miscom said:
Try this free app to show you what LTE band you are using
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.simplyadvanced.ltediscovery
Most likely if you are on AT&T is band 17.
The higher the frequency the most difficult it is for the signal to travel farther or into building. You'll better results if you are receiving on 700MHz than 2600MHz, but that is determined by your carrier (although there are ways to manually change it)
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Thanks for the informatino - I had no idea that some phones had problems connecting to LTE - I personally never have had that issue with any of the TMOBILE PHONES i have used on ATT (Note 3 and my S5) but its good to know this in case it ever happens with a future phone.
anyway, for grins and gigglesI got the app suggested - but I can't see in the app where it says what band I am using?
I attached a screen shot - can you tell me what I should be looking for?
mocsab said:
Thanks for the informatino - I had no idea that some phones had problems connecting to LTE - I personally never have had that issue with any of the TMOBILE PHONES i have used on ATT (Note 3 and my S5) but its good to know this in case it ever happens with a future phone.
anyway, for grins and gigglesI got the app suggested - but I can't see in the app where it says what band I am using?
I attached a screen shot - can you tell me what I should be looking for?
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Sorry, I gave you the wrong information. Just go into the service mode menu. It's there on the first page.
From the dial pad: *#0011#
miscom said:
Sorry, I gave you the wrong information. Just go into the service mode menu. It's there on the first page.
From the dial pad: *#0011#
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Thanks - Got it - and you were right, Band 17
Hey Miscom. Thank you for the post. I am considering this phone. I am wondering if this phone is fully compatible with all LTE At&t bands? I copied the At&t band info from a post on another forum and pasted it below. I assume that it is correct.
At&t LTE Bands
4G HSPA and HSPA+ use 850Mhz(Band 5) and 1900Mhz(Band 2) bands but it all depends on area if they own a license. LTE uses Band 17(700Mhz), Band 5(850Mhz), Band 2(1900Mhz), Band 4(1700/2100Mhz) currently.
It appears that Band 4(1700/2100) is missing from the SM-G906S specs.
SM-G906S LTE Bands (Source: http://28mobile.com/Product/View/68834/samsung-galaxy-s5-prime-lte-a-sm-g906s-k-32gb-black-4g/)
Infrastructure 4G LTE
2G GSM GSM900, DCS1800, PCS1900
3G UMTS B1 (2100), B2 (1900), B5 (850)
4G LTE B1 (2100), B3 (1800), B5 (850), B7 (2600), B17 (700)
jinksd said:
Hey Miscom. Thank you for the post. I am considering this phone. I am wondering if this phone is fully compatible with all LTE At&t bands? I copied the At&t band info from a post on another forum and pasted it below. I assume that it is correct.
At&t LTE Bands
4G HSPA and HSPA+ use 850Mhz(Band 5) and 1900Mhz(Band 2) bands but it all depends on area if they own a license. LTE uses Band 17(700Mhz), Band 5(850Mhz), Band 2(1900Mhz), Band 4(1700/2100Mhz) currently.
It appears that Band 4(1700/2100) is missing from the SM-G906S specs.
SM-G906S LTE Bands (Source: http://28mobile.com/Product/View/68834/samsung-galaxy-s5-prime-lte-a-sm-g906s-k-32gb-black-4g/)
Infrastructure 4G LTE
2G GSM GSM900, DCS1800, PCS1900
3G UMTS B1 (2100), B2 (1900), B5 (850)
4G LTE B1 (2100), B3 (1800), B5 (850), B7 (2600), B17 (700)
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You are correct: Band 4 is missing. For AT&T only band 17 is available in the G906S.
Band 17 is the main LTE band for AT&T. I traveled by car a few days ago from Tennessee to New York and except for a few places, I got LTE most of the time. Never saw E, only 3G (AT&T's 4G) and LTE.
Same here I have LTE pretty much 99% everywhere I go. I'm on AT&T as well.
That is good news. Do you guys know if there will be ROM support by cyanogen for this phone?
Also. Where did you guys get yours?
jinksd said:
That is good news. Do you guys know if there will be ROM support by cyanogen for this phone?
Also. Where did you guys get yours?
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I bought mine from 28mobile.com
Hi all,
Considering buying the G906S from 28Mobile,
I am on T-Mobile though, Is there any way to make the LTE work?
No
neilspenta said:
Hi all,
Considering buying the G906S from 28Mobile,
I am on T-Mobile though, Is there any way to make the LTE work?
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chungdae said:
No
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Thanks for the prompt reply.
I know for a fact that the G906S and K do not work with T-Mobile. I don't know the band's for L, it might be compatible.
neilspenta said:
Thanks for the prompt reply.
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mocsab said:
I am confused. I am also on ATT - I bought this phone back when it first came out. All I did was add the ATT APN and then I was able to get LTE just fine. I didn't have to do anything like you described.
So - are you saying you added your APN and still had to go thru all of those steps?
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What APN did you use?
I found this on AT&T official website,
Your device will need to work on one of these GSM network frequencies:
AT&T Multi-band GSM
UMTS, LTE or unlocked Multi-band GSM - 850/1900 MHz
UMTS - 850/1900 MHz
LTE Band 2 - 1900 MHz
LTE Band 4 - 1700 MHz
LTE Band 5 - 800 MHz
LTE Band 17 - 700 MHz