VoIP on Android Auto? - Android Auto General

Is there a way to make VoIP calls through Android Auto? I read some threads on a different website that said Hangouts Dialer is not supported (yet?), but I'm wondering if there is another way to use VoIP through AA?
I am a Sprint customer on an unlimited everything plan that costs me only $60/month after all the taxes and fees. I get good coverage in my home area and for the most part wherever I've been traveling. Ive been out of contract for sometime, but my galaxy S4 is starting to feel a bit dated. Unfortunately all the new Sprint phones are Tri-band Spark models and don't support simultaneous voice and data unlike my current phone. I just got the Pioneer AVH 4100NEX and I'm loving Android Auto. I frequently use Google Maps when in the car for a long period of time and if I were to upgrade to a new Sprint Spark phone I'd lose the ability to have it running while taking calls in the car. THe only work-around I can think of would be to use a VoIP dialer so that my calls are also via data...

The answer to your question is no. With that said, Maps caches a fair amount of data when navigating, so unless you're on the phone for long periods of time (or try to reroute during a call) you should be good.
Also note Maps now allows you to cache specific areas to your phone which can be used offline for navigation and routing.

Ill try giving the google maps cache thing a try, but I see the potential problem of my crappy galaxy S4's storage capacity being an issue if saving a significant amount of data. Its only 16GB and less than 9GB of that is usable space with the barebones installation - much of that which I've used up with apps that I routinely use. Fortunately it looks like there are several supported apps with either free or cheap ($3/mo) voice data calling available that work with AA. Whether these would work with my native number so as to be a viable option when people are calling my cell number I'm not sure... Text Me, textPlus, Skype, ICQ video calls & chat are currently available so I'll have to check those out. Another option I guess would be to get AppRadio unchained reloaded and use that instead of AA

Does anyone know if there are any plans for integrating data calls through Google Hangouts app (or another VoIP Dialer) into Android Auto in the future?

I don't think Google has made ANY* statements/promises about future features in Android Auto. But feel free to ask them on Google+ or where-ever.
*Only exception I can think of is a positive response to a question about somehow integrating Waze into AA. But no timeline for that.
... But you'd think that supporting VOIP at some point would make sense, unless Google needs to keep the carriers happy.

The long answer is YES, but limited:
Try this: Install AA and WhatsApp in you mobile. Start the AA in your HU as regular. Then, with you mobile connected and with MOBILE screen (type multi-tasking button) and open the WhatsApp in the mobile... then make a VOIP call...
Then you show that at this moment the Bluetooth of the HU routes the call, and the AA in the screen show the call... All as a regular voice call.
Then the only missing feature is that Google needs to include the voice command for VOIP calls (send the command to the message app) and/or using the dialer (agenda).
I hope soon this will included by default!

manos78 said:
The long answer is YES, but limited:
Try this: Install AA and WhatsApp in you mobile. Start the AA in your HU as regular. Then, with you mobile connected and with MOBILE screen (type multi-tasking button) and open the WhatsApp in the mobile... then make a VOIP call...
Then you show that at this moment the Bluetooth of the HU routes the call, and the AA in the screen show the call... All as a regular voice call.
Then the only missing feature is that Google needs to include the voice command for VOIP calls (send the command to the message app) and/or using the dialer (agenda).
I hope soon this will included by default!
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Thanks for the reply. I'll try this out today and see if that works with my setup. When you say that the calls will be made "All as a regular voice call" you mean that the process of answering/making calls is similar to voice call? I'm hoping that it still would use the WhatsApp VoIP data service because thats the main reason I'd want to use this feature.
Is the reason why you use this method because you also have Sprint and don't have simultaneous voice an data??

Sadly this is still an issue 14 months later, and yes, it's because of Sprint's refusal to allow simultaneous data/voice...
Did WhatsApp solve the problem for you? Is there anything new that would work? I love using AA (phone only, not car) but losing data isn't always an option.

chaimss said:
Sadly this is still an issue 14 months later, and yes, it's because of Sprint's refusal to allow simultaneous data/voice...
Did WhatsApp solve the problem for you? Is there anything new that would work? I love using AA (phone only, not car) but losing data isn't always an option.
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I actually ended up switching to T-Mobile almost exclusively for this reason. I found a good deal with them that allows unlimited music streaming (which works out great with Android Auto) and now I don't have to worry about being able to use voice/data at the same time while I'm driving on longer trips (i.e. using Google Maps, listening to Google Play Music, and get a voice call at the same time). I am using my Google Voice number and get Hangouts messages passed through Android Auto and use the default dialer with my GV number as well.

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I actually ended up switching to T-Mobile almost exclusively for this reason. I found a good deal with them that allows unlimited music streaming (which works out great with Android Auto) and now I don't have to worry about being able to use voice/data at the same time while I'm driving on longer trips (i.e. using Google Maps, listening to Google Play Music, and get a voice call at the same time). I am using my Google Voice number and get Hangouts messages passed through Android Auto and use the default dialer with my GV number as well.
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I hear that, but that 50% off was just too good to give up, even with the drawbacks...

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Anyone know of program that can call landline/mobile phones using wifi and is inexpensive/free other than skype?
Google voice...
Google Voice doesn't use the data connection for the call though, it still routes it through the same as a normal voice call. I have heard of using a few separate programs to route everything around to use Google Voice, but I have not tried any of them, nor do I know off hand where to point you other than here, ppcgeeks, or the google voice forums.
You could try Fring, it allows you to use other services such as skype/sms/etc. I haven't used it in a long time, but when I did, you wanted at least half of your full signal strength or the quality of audio would drop along with delays in text. It has been said to have gotten better since, but I haven't tried it. They are the first to have the first mobile video call using it with skype on nokia/iphone and the first free voip call using it with skype on android devices.
Hope some of this help
Just curious why not just use your phone? Not enough minutes? If your carrier allows free favorites, you can make your google voice # one of the favorites and call for free.
Im also interested in this, cuz when im out of the country i wanna route my calls through an IPBX
There is no free ip phone service that I know of. It costs money to run a service like that and I don't see anybody giving it away. Skype is not free when making actual phone calls. It is only free to other skype users. So unless the person has a Skype number it's still costing you.
It is actually possible.
You need a google voice number and a gizmo5 account. You can forward your google voice number to a gizmo5 SIP account - thus you get free incomming calls. You can use the mobile google voice webpage to make outgoing calls - thus you get free outgoing calls too.
As far as I know Google voice from the web site only connects your existing phone number(the one being forward to) and the number your wanting to call. So you are still going to be charged for an incoming call if your service does so. If you get free incoming calls then yes. As for the Gizmo5 option it has been acquired by Google Voice and no longer excepts no members accounts or on-line numbers. I have made a GV account and linked it to a Skype account. It only costs my $3 a month for unlimited calling through them outbound and another $6 a month for an on-line number. So for $9 a month a can make unlimited calls and texts. Pretty close to free or as close as it can get for now. I'm sure in a few months GV will have their own on-line service since purchasing Gizmo5. This will hold me over for now.
Try fring. It is pretty good.
i used fring on my old nokia 5800 it worked great the betas and the early and final versions ofit.
How much did your fring end up costing?
I tried multiple VOIP clients and ended up using SJ Phone (free) with google voice and gizmo5. It sounds really good. Fring and the others all gave me trouble or had poor sound.
surprising why no one has tried SPOKN...

Nettalk app... Posible voip app for g tablet?

So I installed nettalk voip app on my tablet it installs but it has the same issues with voice calling with fring. I mean this app would be great for us G tablet users cause we lack phone cababilities. What needs to be fixed so this app would work flawlessly? I would love to use this app cause its like the magicjack of android... Well until magicjack releases there android app which they stated it would be released in september of this year
I tried sipdroid and imsdroid. Neither work.
Also stremfurious doesn't work. It keeps reporting broken pipe and freezing.
It's like the network is going up and down, or the connection status is not being reported properly.
Voip Gtablet
I have Skype and IAXagent working, but unable to get audio to my bluetooth headset.
very possible @op. install sipdroid and let it make you a new pbxes automagically and have gv installed. i treated my viewsonic like a project and first testing requirement was "could i make and receive calls?" well i got swype plus mic and call and recieve working...but the software was still horrible. i couldnt beleive that a device like a giant epic(sgstabby) could massacre my tegra2tabby by way of speed and sheer quickness...working on phone call and receive now for my galaxy tab and i couldnt be happier....amazing what software can do...this tabby will be awesome if it gets enough dev but as it stands its going to be overlooked just because of the crap software...i used all custom roms and none had the performance of STOCK s g tabby....i hate samsung and i looked forward to this device for so long...rather disappointing...glad i purchased at staples with no restock fee
Humm, my sipdroid works just dandy... using sipgate, sipsorcery, Google voice..
Sidebar, in sipdroid you must hit menu>speaker to hear anything.. I've also found within sipdroid in landscape mode the keyboard "enter" button actually starts the call
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I have Skype and IAXagent working, but unable to get audio to my bluetooth headset.
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+1 Skype works fine for me. I have a Skype number and the $2.99 unlimited US/Can calls. I can receive and make calls. I use my phone headset and it works perfectly.
Ok, so I got a Galaxy Tablet (Sprint) from BestBuy, and plan to use it only with WiFi.
I was searching around and discovered Sipdriod as a possible app to make calls over WiFi with my G Tab, but when I try to place a call I get the message "Cannot make or take a call using the Galaxy Tab."
Anyone know why this is?
I read above that Sipdroid won't work, but I am wondering why. I mean is this a limitation Sprint has put on their G Tabs? Is it some limitation Samsung built in?
It just doesn't make sense to me that I can have an Android app that should be able to make a call over WiFi, but the G Tab is restricted.

[ANSWERED] Moto Droid + google voice(or talk?) over wifi

I have a moto droid which is no longer active with Verizon(that $30 a month was getting to be a bit much) and would like to use google voice to make calls. On install, it gives an option to use google voice for calls, but when I actually try to make one it routes me to Verizon's "we're sorry, this phone isn't in service" message.
I understand that this isn't really the intended use, but I can use google talk to make a call from my PC, why will it not let me use the same service from my droid. Is this a quirk of the device or a limitation from Verizon or google?
I'm using the latest Bugless Beast, if it makes a difference, though I have also tried with CM7 build 3 and CM 6.1.2.
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Ah, nevermind. I figured it out myself. This is not possible with google voice alone, but I grabbed Sipdroid off the market. When paired with a google voice account(set to ring to gtalk as well as any other phone numbers) works rather well as a wifi phone. There is a bit of a delay sometimes in making a call, but no serious problems. call quality is quite good.

Living without Wifi Calling

So I just wanted to post my alternative to wifi calling since most of our JB roms are the best roms for this phone but most users divert from using them because there is no wifi calling...
My fix is pretty simple actually, I just set my primary voicemail to Google voice, so that all my missed calls from either one goes to my google voice voicemail, this way when people call me Ill be able to get a notification through wifi instead of through data when i have no single.. I know its not the same as being able to receive calls but it notifies you when you have a call.
Next I just downloaded the vonage app which lets you make free calls to USA numbers and I think canada.. So after I get a voicemail notification, I just call the number back.
Feel Free to post your alternatives to wifi calling in this thread, i would love to see other ways users live with out it
Now this only works if they leave a voicemail. so dont expect google to just notify you every time you get a call.
This is just my simple fix for having no wifi calling.. i figure if they dont leave a voicemail.. then their call wasnt that important..
As a Canadian, I've never had the advantage of T-Mobile's wifi calling, however we have our own alternative which isn't too bad at all. Fongo (formerly Dell Voice). A good internet connection is required though, otherwise you may experience lag and/or low quality calls. On the plus side, you get a new phone number in any locale you want. Most of Canada is covered. So for instance, if you're in Vancouver and have family in Toronto, it makes sense to get a Toronto number so they can call you without incurring long distance charges (exactly what I do ). You can even set it up so calls dialed to that Toronto number get forwarded to your actual Vancouver number. Pretty nifty! They have a texting option as well, however that will cost you. Voicemail is included, and is free!
As far as free text messaging goes (and incoming calls, so long as you don't want to spend any money), a great service covering both the US and Canada is Pinger. Once again, you get a brand new phone number, though not as important for texting. The app itself can integrate your carrier's calls and texts, too, if you so choose (enabled by default - I typically disable it).
Fortunately, for me wifi calling isn't make or break. The bars here are generally 'good enough'. But...
An interesting (though maybe too much of a work around for most) would be to simply fully back up the official rom with wifi calling and your custom rom and then you can switch between them. Need wifi calling at work? Wipe and restore to the official rom after you get there. Want the custom rom at home, just wipe and restore that backup.
I know it works with Clockworkmod's backup and restore as that is what I use with swaping atm to test battery usage between roms. A restore brings back everything exactly how it was left.
(Perhaps the only real issue would be to be done with any OS specific changes. If you insall a new app and want to keep it then another backup would be required or it would not be there next time. Other things like contacts, calendar via google syncing isn't a problem as it just syncs changes between them via wifi. No need to do backups for that* - just wipe and restore any time. Also, the amount of space/time could be a problem if someone has too much stuff.)
*Point to point out, if anything is changed in the restored rom which affects goole sync before google is finished syncing then that could cause something to not be synced and thus lost forever. Unsure which side would lose. Haven't run into it personally. Backups are always good regardless.
Other than that, I just ordered cables for usb otg which on my phone requires the official rom (or a rom based off of it). So I want to see how that goes and may [continue] to do the swapping of roms for that. For me and how I use the phone its not a problem.
Another idea... would be to simply have another phone with wifi calling and do sim card swapping.
Guess this is the post of all about swapping.
Magic jack app 100% free
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The Vonage app works great for Wifi calling. That is what I am using. People will still be able to see your existing phone # on caller ID.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.vonage.TimeToCall&hl=en
yeah ive been plagued with this dilemma as well.. right now i just use the CM9 which has T-Mobile wifi calling. however the calling barely works (just shows call screen then beeps to disconnect) it does do the texting 95% of the time.
i do have the tmobile visual voicemail so it alerts me if i get a voicemail.
i thought about using google voice but it looked to want to import my number and i was afraid it mess up the regular carrier..
i dont like using the apps that assign a different number so i think im stuck with ICS until someone hacks it into JB..
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Dizmatic said:
The Vonage app works great for Wifi calling. That is what I am using. People will still be able to see your existing phone # on caller ID.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.vonage.TimeToCall&hl=en
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i read about this just now and it says it works with anyone who also has the app.. so that would limit who i could contact when on wifi only....
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I'm not sure I understand your question . Are you looking to live without wifi or find solutions to solve bad wifi?
I had a lot of trouble with wifi calling until I did this:
[ROM] RemICS-JB 3.0.1 - The most stable, light and reasonably fast ROM I could get onto my phone
Set up Google Voice account (actually GApps but not relevant)
Install GrooveIP
Configure properly - The startup and answer on calls settings help integrate it seamlessly into your daily calling
Now you have inbound outbound calling, and with a decent connection it's very clean with rare hiccups
I trield Talkatone for a while and while at first it seemed to work out of the box better, I had issues with it over time.
So I went back to GIP and fiddled with settings after reading a lot. Because it works directly over Google Talk protocol and not GVoice, it is more stable and offers a better connection.
Hope this helps you get solid voice over wifi (Free
I did pay for Groove IP in the end.
Groove IP does not offer SMS built in like Talkatone does, so if you are SMSing all day as well then look at Talkatone. If quality of calls is paramount start with GIP. I use the GVoice app for SMS
emagin said:
Hope this helps you get solid voice over wifi (Free
I did pay for Groove IP in the end.
Groove IP does not offer SMS built in like Talkatone does, so if you are SMSing all day as well then look at Talkatone. If quality of calls is paramount start with GIP. I use the GVoice app for SMS
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do those assign you another number or does it use ur regular cell number?
does the other person need the app?
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Sorry I did not mention this. Yes you use the GVoice as your main #
I converted to Grand Central (with Gizmo) several years ago before Google acquired it, so I'm very familiar with Voice and have been using it successfully for years.
I also use an Obi202 device ($75 for life) that lets my standard house phone make/receive calls on up to 4 GVoice numbers, or other VOIP services (like callcentric, etc.)
So my GVoice numbers ring multiple devices. One caveat is that GrooveIP on android interferes with the ringing on Obi device so I turn it off when I'm in office-desk mode. But I think this is off-topic
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do those assign you another number or does it use ur regular cell number?
does the other person need the app?
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Im still in the testing phase... but MIUI ICS has the tmobile wifi calling working very well.
(Note it wasn't pre loaded so i did a full app and data backup of wifi calling via titanium backup and restored it after flashing new ROM)
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Wifi calling still is sketchy.. didnt call last night.. just beeps and hangs up. But i have noticed it starts each time i connect to wifi unlike CM9 where i would have to click the app
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This is a known GV issue across devices, I know people have had this problem on the S3, so no it's not your rom.
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This is not only an issue with gv, this happens from android to android or from android to iPhone regardless of having or using gv. I tested with other android phones, I phones, and multiple SMS apps, anything after the @ is dropped for some reason
I set up G Voice integration, and now when i get a call and my laptop is logged into Gmail, the call rings on the computer first, and only at the end does it ring on the phone. Is there any way to disable this, and have it just ring on the phone only... Or is this a by-product of having my Sprint number as my G Voice #? I unchecked forward to Google Chat in my G Voice settings on the laptop...
Also, what happens if i do answer via Google Chat on the laptop? Haven't tried that yet lol
yogi2010 said:
I set up G Voice integration, and now when i get a call and my laptop is logged into Gmail, the call rings on the computer first, and only at the end does it ring on the phone. Is there any way to disable this, and have it just ring on the phone only... Or is this a by-product of having my Sprint number as my G Voice #? I unchecked forward to Google Chat in my G Voice settings on the laptop...
Also, what happens if i do answer via Google Chat on the laptop? Haven't tried that yet lol
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If you do answer through Google Chat it will not ring on your phone and it will use your speakers and your mic to answer the call. You will literally answer the call on your laptop.
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If you do answer through Google Chat it will not ring on your phone and it will use your speakers and your mic to answer the call. You will literally answer the call on your laptop.
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Interesting, i might have to try that next time. I guess there is no way i could get charged for that?
Also, if i close my Gmail window when i leave the house, it will ring on my phone like normal? I have the box checked to forward calls to my Sprint phone..
yogi2010 said:
Interesting, i might have to try that next time. I guess there is no way i could get charged for that?
Also, if i close my Gmail window when i leave the house, it will ring on my phone like normal? I have the box checked to forward calls to my Sprint phone..
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Correct. It can be a little startling at times, but for the most part the Google Voice/Sprint integration works pretty well. I believe Cyanogenmod is working on a system-level Google Voice integration for receipt/sending via the stock messaging app, but if you can't wait, there's also a good AOSP-styled app called Messaging + Google Voice on the Play Store. I haven't tried it for a while (there was an annoying duplication bug where you'd receive messages twice in the app-- once over carrier, once over Google Voice, but they told me it'd be fixed soon).
Yeah, I'm pretty happy with the integration so far. I'm fine with texting the way it is, i think, because with the integration i already text thru the stock messaging app? And i like receiving texts to that number on my other phones thru the Google Voice app.... I prefer to know where the text came from lol.
yogi2010 said:
I set up G Voice integration, and now when i get a call and my laptop is logged into Gmail, the call rings on the computer first, and only at the end does it ring on the phone. Is there any way to disable this, and have it just ring on the phone only... Or is this a by-product of having my Sprint number as my G Voice #? I unchecked forward to Google Chat in my G Voice settings on the laptop...
Also, what happens if i do answer via Google Chat on the laptop? Haven't tried that yet lol
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The reason this happens is that Google Voice rings all associated devices, but the ones that are on a faster connection ring first. The computer's network connection is loads faster than Sprint's cell connection. Note that Springs 3/4G is not involved in this comparison.
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The reason this happens is that Google Voice rings all associated devices, but the ones that are on a faster connection ring first. The computer's network connection is loads faster than Sprint's cell connection. Note that Springs 3/4G is not involved in this comparison.
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does this mean that calls are still coming in to the phone thru the cellular phone network, and not data? because that would be one concern for me, as i would think that a cellular phone network would be more reliable than a cellular data network. i could be wrong tho.
and how about with regards to texting... are they still coming over the phone network and not data?
thanks for the info guys! you probably know more than is shared on the Google Voice site itself.
yogi2010 said:
does this mean that calls are still coming in to the phone thru the cellular phone network, and not data? because that would be one concern for me, as i would think that a cellular phone network would be more reliable than a cellular data network. i could be wrong tho.
and how about with regards to texting... are they still coming over the phone network and not data?
thanks for the info guys! you probably know more than is shared on the Google Voice site itself.
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Yes. Phone calls still go to the cellular network, but it is a much slower send than what the internet gets. Same goes for texting from your phone.
You're phone acts as usual, but your computer has a faster connection so it'll get those things first.
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Yes. Phone calls still go to the cellular network, but it is a much slower send than what the internet gets. Same goes for texting from your phone.
You're phone acts as usual, but your computer has a faster connection so it'll get those things first.
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ah ok, and do you notice that it takes an extra few seconds to send a call from the phone, after enabling integration, or is it my imagination? maybe it has to get routed somehow?

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