I'm due for an upgrade - T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I'm on tmobile and Currently have the Note 4. No complaints but I am due for an upgrade on Jump. Any suggestions or should I keep waiting?

Supamike88 said:
I'm on tmobile and Currently have the Note 4. No complaints but I am due for an upgrade on Jump. Any suggestions or should I keep waiting?
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Are you happy with your phone? If so why upgrade when it seems that most the newer phones feel like a down grade? If you are not happy, what needs improving for your phone experience and look for something with those things.
Very difficult to rely on someone else to tell you what you like. If you don't root, then tons of support and ROM's mean nothing to you. If you do root, this phone has lots of both.
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I can't really say I need anything else. I do feel like the Note 5 is a downgrade due to the subtraction of certain features. I had rooted my note 4 before, but when I got a replacement it came with the updated firmware so I haven't been able to root it again

Supamike88 said:
I can't really say I need anything else. I do feel like the Note 5 is a downgrade due to the subtraction of certain features. I had rooted my note 4 before, but when I got a replacement it came with the updated firmware so I haven't been able to root it again
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If you're on the new firmware it's able to be rooted. On my GF's note 4 we got her, I installed TWRP on it. Though we are running an AOSP ROM, so I can't really help you much further than that if you want to run TW. If you'd like to give AOSP a shot I suggest starting with one of Zion959 ROM's. He's got SlimRemiX and cmRemiX. We run the later.
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Unfortunately I rely on WiFi calling inside my apartment. Although I suppose I could get the free thing from tmobile that boosts signal and 4g

i really wanna upgrade to the 6p, but i'm gonna wait til it hits bestbuy stores , until then i'm rocking the note 4 til it dies

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The Remaining Note users.. What are you running?

I think it's safe to say the community for the T-mobile Note is just about as empty as a legacy device from the old days. I don't really see much other then the Jedi Leader ICS and CM10 nightlies so i'm guessing people that aren't jumping up to the Note2 are sticking with some they consider stable.
So What are you running?
I'm running ParanoidAndroid 2.51. One of these days i need to sit down and learn how to properly build from source so I can keep myself somewhat amused.
I've been running liquid smooth rc9 for the past week and its been running nicely. I used paranoid also and really liked it, just not a big fan of the dual panel menu.
I've been messing around trying to learn to develop from source. I've been working on a kernel, but have been getting some errors when I go to compile. I haven't been able to figured out what I'm doing wrong yet.
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jedi leader here for past week
why
I was just looking at this device... why so few using? My guess is that most people are on the phone rental plans so they opt to Note II or SGS3 or ???? on the Ebay market this one is still pulling a strong price . what is the base/stock rom for it anyway?
cognus said:
I was just looking at this device... why so few using? My guess is that most people are on the phone rental plans so they opt to Note II or SGS3 or ???? on the Ebay market this one is still pulling a strong price . what is the base/stock rom for it anyway?
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cuz tmobil only had it on sale for a very short time(few weeks) before it was pulled out for the upcoming Note 2. So not many was sold
Are there any compatible Atat galaxy note ROMs for T-Mobile galaxy note since development over here is practically nonexistent?
Chance Ill said:
Are there any compatible Atat galaxy note ROMs for T-Mobile galaxy note since development over here is practically nonexistent?
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Look at the WiFi and vibration fix thread in the development section...it tells you how to use all the att ROMs...I'm running the att AOCP rom on my Tmobile note right now
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good info.
I didn't know there was a WIFI issue.
iamanalog said:
I think it's safe to say the community for the T-mobile Note is just about as empty as a legacy device from the old days. I don't really see much other then the Jedi Leader ICS and CM10 nightlies so i'm guessing people that aren't jumping up to the Note2 are sticking with some they consider stable.
So What are you running?
I'm running ParanoidAndroid 2.51. One of these days i need to sit down and learn how to properly build from source so I can keep myself somewhat amused.
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We ar all thinking/wondering, are you keeping youself amused with building a rom
there is surely a lack of love for the Note but why? its specs are very close to the overpriced note 2...
they sell fairly well [usa] on ebay - go fast, and price at about half the price of a clean note 2 ...
I don't know if I can call $325 a BARGAIN per se, but its competitive with other thingies in that range
I'm running with pan droid 2.5.6 on my T-Mobile note one...
Just follow directions.. easy
Thanks again
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can someone check my assumption here: I need T-mo WIFI calling app to work with no issues - I'm dependent on it.
I am assuming that an AT&T version [unlocked] is a no-go, 'cause at&t really wants to defeat wifi so it will not have the app.
correct?
i'm 0 for 2 on unlocked at&t phone attempts with T-mo .... its enough of a challenge just finding ANY phone, including those T-mo pushes, that will handle wifi calling app smoothly.
luckily i have had several that do so
I just switched from Jedi 4 to Liquid Smooth rc 9. No complaints so far. Enjoying the liquid splasher options. I did take Gnote from the Paranoid rom and install it on this one though as I couldn't find an Snote substitute that I liked anywhere else.
Hi OP! I have an att note that I got by reupping my son's line- he hates smartphones and just recently started using a keyboard phone for easier texting- he's 26. I have had this phone for a year, didn't use it for the 1st 4 months since tmobile didn't work so well till the blaze modem was set up for this phone.
I tried the stock t-mo rom when it was available after tmobile released their note. Didn't work so well- had heat issues. So have been running ptmr3's padawan for i717 with blaze modem- on the monthly 4g plan for 6 months or so. Love that!
2 days ago I tried the tmo roms again. Stock still problematic, but tried ptmr3's Jedi4 with the new mixed modem of tmo and n7005. It's working really well with great data speeds- 10-14 mbps DL, and 1-3 mbps UL. Battery seems to be doing well and no heat issues with this modem.
I would love to get the note 2, but can't justify the $$ and no way do I want a contract with anybody. So, here I am with my note that I still love, and I flip back and forth between my GNex for a smaller phone when needed.
For the person who wants to flash the att roms, I read yesterday that all roms between the att and tmo notes are interchangeable with no flash problems.
I did it with Jedi 4 with no other prep. I wiped padawan rom and data, flashed Jedi, and then started testing modems after it settled in. So far, so good. There are still Note lovers here
I just upgraded to the note from my sgs4g. Currently I am running PA but I like to switch between that and CM 10. Don't be surprised if this phone gets a sudden push of users since Tmobile is offering it as a cheep upgrade phone, also Samsung's in general are safer to root and load custom roms on. Even though this is not a popular phone, it is gaining in ownership. ALSO I like how you can load all the 717(att note) roms if you want.
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bot42 said:
I just upgraded to the note from my sgs4g. Currently I am running PA but I like to switch between that and CM 10. Don't be surprised if this phone gets a sudden push of users since Tmobile is offering it as a cheep upgrade phone, also Samsung's in general are safer to root and load custom roms on. Even though this is not a popular phone, it is gaining in ownership. ALSO I like how you can load all the 717(att note) roms if you want.
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to me its a great device. I may start a Bloatware guide thread...it could help some. I would hope all of you pitch in.
hate to sound ignorant, but which is "PA" ?
for now I am sticking with leaning down the stocker, and looking out for a Jellybean push from samsung.
mine is pretty fast as it is with about half a dozen or more uninstallations of stock bloat. i have plenty of memory space.
I got to the Note 1 via Nexus 7. make sense? I was using a LG and, like you, SGS4G which we still have [need to REALLY skinny that one down], so I get the n7. after rooting and playing around with various mods and configs, I was thinking: I'd like to have this 720p but integrated with the handset since I can't figure out where the big tablet fits in with my habits... plus I wanted sd storage, wifi calling, etc. so the logical answer: Note! reading the specs, I don't see that the very hot-selling Note 2 [with apparently auto-cracking screens...] is worth nearly double what I paid for my note 1.
Pa is paranoid android.
JellyBam
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cPognus said:
to me its a great device. I may start a Bloatware guide thread...it could help some. I would hope all of you pitch in.
hate to sound ignorant, but which is "PA" ?
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Well Shane is correct it does stand for Paranoid Android. I agree that this phone is a bargain now. It us one of the few phones you can get for less then $400 with out an upgrade. Granted I used my upgrade. I used the upgrade, because the old galaxy s 4g was two years old she needs a new battery. It was time to pass her down to my son. So down graded her from JB (it wasn't quite stable yet) to ICS and gave her to the boy. I was able to catch this at Costco for $50 (with an upgrade) So I jumped on it.
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I do the $30 monthly with t-mobile and rely on wifi calling a lot since my home office is in a dead zone. switching to the "unlimited" data plan [100min talk...i'm not a big talker] in a couple days - got the $30 window on that. [btw... the data allowance on the 30 talk-oriented monthly is very small, but I'm not sure they can calibrate it right via wifi because I have used data heavily but never come close to running over, and a lot of times when I spot-check it the meter shows Zero]
this is a good handset. keep it lean and its as fast as any non-gaming person can use.
and I see far fewer screen breakage reports on this one [knock on wood]. there are a lot of busted note 2's on ebay hunting a buyer.

Still worth buying?

Hey guys, do you think buying a used note 3 is still a good by at $350?
How much do you think it will sell for in November after Note 4 hits the scene?
I think it's a decent deal. Not the best deal but not the worst deal.
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Thanks. I just the pulled the trigger on a "mint" condition note 3 on swappa for $339 to hold me over until I get a Note 4 in November. Tired of my Nexus 5 poor battery life.
Enjoy. Battery on the note is a beast. ?
yogi217 said:
Thanks. I just the pulled the trigger on a "mint" condition note 3 on swappa for $339 to hold me over until I get a Note 4 in November. Tired of my Nexus 5 poor battery life.
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I got my note 3 back in January and I'm still very happy with it. This is the best battery life I've ever experienced on any device I've ever owned, But I also want to see what the future holds for the note line. If it's extremely nice I will get it. If not I will just keep my note 3 till I finally get tired of it.
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I finally got the device. The seller claims that they too purchased it back in January. There isn't a mark on the device. It is definitely in mint condition.
It's on, rooted, debloated and disabled carrier iq, and customized! Easier than I expected to use one handed (but I have large hands) and fits in my pocket better than anticipated as well. Not as smooth as my Nexus 5 or even 4 (even turning most features off and using Nova), but worth the extra screen and battery size.
Definitely going for a Note 4 in a few months, but looking forward to using this bad boy for the time being! I'm not in any rush with this device in hand. The 3 is a great device. My only regret is not having moved to the Note line of phones earlier.
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It's on, rooted, debloated and disabled carrier iq, and customized! Easier than I expected to use one handed (but I have large hands) and fits in my pocket better than anticipated as well. Not as smooth as my Nexus 5 or even 4 (even turning most features off and using Nova), but worth the extra screen and battery size. .
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That's weird. I have a similar setup on my Note and it is the butteriest phone I've ever owned. I need to update my sig but I'm running stock rooted kitkat, I used Titanium Backup to debloat the crap out of it, and I got rid of Carrier IQ. There isn't a hint of lag.
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That's weird. I have a similar setup on my Note and it is the butteriest phone I've ever owned. I need to update my sig but I'm running stock rooted kitkat, I used Titanium Backup to debloat the crap out of it, and I got rid of Carrier IQ. There isn't a hint of lag.
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I did the same thing, but just to my eye, it's not as smooth as a nexus 5. It's not a huge difference (it's barely a difference at all), and certainly not one that I would go back to a nexus for. It's just something I noticed with both devices in my hand at the same time.
If you enjoy rooting and flashing, I hope it's not the AT&T Note 3.
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If you enjoy rooting and flashing, I hope it's not the AT&T Note 3.
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I rooted this note 3, but I've never flashed it because I was spending way too much time messing with roms on previous nexus.
What's the issue with att? I haven't looked into it. Difficult bootloader?
yogi217 said:
I rooted this note 3, but I've never flashed it because I was spending way too much time messing with roms on previous nexus.
What's the issue with att? I haven't looked into it. Difficult bootloader?
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The bootloader is locked and probably will never be unlocked.
440bro said:
The bootloader is locked and probably will never be unlocked.
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Yeah, that sucks. I'm not going to run a custom rom, so no biggie for me for now...
440bro said:
The bootloader is locked and probably will never be unlocked.
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Except, with Safestrap it's actually possible to add custom ROMS. Took me around 20 minutes to get it set up and I;m no power user!

Should I buy the Nexus 6 or a Note 4

Hey everyone, Ive had a note 2 for 2 years now and samsung honestly has a lot of bloatware, also the phone is really slow now that even the youtube app would take 3-5 seconds to open. Which phone do u think is better and did anyone have the experience of their nexus 5 or 4 getting a lot slower in a matter of a year or two?? Thanks
iliadmoosavi said:
Hey everyone, Ive had a note 2 for 2 years now and samsung honestly has a lot of bloatware, also the phone is really slow now that even the youtube app would take 3-5 seconds to open. Which phone do u think is better and did anyone have the experience of their nexus 5 or 4 getting a lot slower in a matter of a year or two?? Thanks
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I ditched my Note 2 Wed night for the Note 4 Developer Edition on VZW. If you are on VZW or ATT and you don't get a develop edition it may be a long time (if ever) for root and/or bootloader unlocking. If tweaking the device is important that will play a huge factor. As for lag...I am running a debloated rom (no knox or bloatware) and I froze S-voice...there is zero lag now, but you need root to do that.
I was down to either the Nexus 6 or N4 DE...whichever one I could buy first. I am not a fanboy of either as both have good and bad points and I am sure I would have been happy with either. My favorite thing about android is that if there is something I don't like or a feature I want, there is almost always a way to make it happen (assuming you have root and an unlocked bootloader). Hope this helps.
My short input: Hardware is better on the Note 4. Software better on the Nexus 6.
I chose the Nexus because I wanted to experience Stock Android. But I believe the Note is a better phone overall.
iliadmoosavi said:
Hey everyone, Ive had a note 2 for 2 years now and samsung honestly has a lot of bloatware, also the phone is really slow now that even the youtube app would take 3-5 seconds to open. Which phone do u think is better and did anyone have the experience of their nexus 5 or 4 getting a lot slower in a matter of a year or two?? Thanks
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I had the Note 3 before I upgraded to the Nexus 6. In my opinion the Nexus 6 is beast & fast as all hell! I mean this thing is so fast out of the box without need to use a custom rom or anything like that. I never used the stylus so that's never been any issue for me when deciding to upgrade my device. Also the front facing speakers & the screen clarity is seriously AWESOME!
I haven't used a phone in years where I didn't feel the need to alter it to make it perform as I thought it should. I did root mine because I love using Titanium Backup and certain apps like that. I woudn't go back to my Note 3 for anything after using this! I don't recall being so happy overall with a device!!!
PS: I also feel that you will not notice much of a differance between the Note 2 & 4 but upgrading to the Nexus 6 will be a very new experiance you will enjoy!!!
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I had the Note 3 before I upgraded to the Nexus 6. In my opinion the Nexus 6 is beast & fast as all hell! I mean this thing is so fast out of the box without need to use a custom rom or anything like that. I never used the stylus so that's never been any issue for me when deciding to upgrade my device. Also the front facing speakers & the screen clarity is seriously AWESOME!
I haven't used a phone in years where I didn't feel the need to alter it to make it perform as I thought it should. I did root mine because I love using Titanium Backup and certain apps like that. I woudn't go back to my Note 3 for anything after using this! I don't recall being so happy overall with a device!!!
PS: I also feel that you will not notice much of a differance between the Note 2 & 4 but upgrading to the Nexus 6 will be a very new experiance you will enjoy!!!
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Thanks everyone!
I bought nexus 6 and my sister bought note 4. My sister loves her note 4 and I am returning my nexus 6. Only Note series has right features for big screen. Nexus 6 is not very pleasant in use.
But it all comes down to what you need must. My sister doesn't care about software upgrades so it's a perfect phone her.
There reason I am returning my nexus 6 because of some issues. Battery life is meh. Its just big. And no led? Really I need to root to get it? That's just stupid. There is always cloud app fc. I mean come on brand new phone and a fc. It has no advantage over any other latest phone except the OS (that too experience some lag).
After using nexus 4 and then nexus 5. I am going back to my one plus one. Half Price and better performance then nexus 6.
Just to answer your question, if Samsung keeps their word go with international or developer edition note 4.
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viny2cool said:
I bought nexus 6 and my sister bought note 4. My sister loves her note 4 and I am returning my nexus 6. Only Note series has right features for big screen. Nexus 6 is not very pleasant in use.
But it all comes down to what you need must. My sister doesn't care about software upgrades so it's a perfect phone her.
There reason I am returning my nexus 6 because of some issues. Battery life is meh. Its just big. And no led? Really I need to root to get it? That's just stupid. There is always cloud app fc. I mean come on brand new phone and a fc. It has no advantage over any other latest phone except the OS (that too experience some lag).
After using nexus 4 and then nexus 5. I am going back to my one plus one. Half Price and better performance then nexus 6.
Just to answer your question, if Samsung keeps their word go with international or developer edition note 4.
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So i ended up getting the note 4, is there any way to get rid of all the bloatware and make the software just like the nexus phones? Have the roots came out yet?
Should've bought the nexus 6. Smh...
Although the Note 4 is ready to hold in the hand, the Nexus 6 is better in my opinion because there is no TouchWiz installed on it
iliadmoosavi said:
So i ended up getting the note 4, is there any way to get rid of all the bloatware and make the software just like the nexus phones? Have the roots came out yet?
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Smh
lostnuke said:
Should've bought the nexus 6. Smh...
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Im in Canada and I would have to wait for 3 weeks for Rogers to get it for me and thats really late or i wouldve got the nexus 6. But is there a way to get the same lollipop rom as the nexus 6 that would be as fast and no bloatware?
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Although the Note 4 is ready to hold in the hand, the Nexus 6 is better in my opinion because there is no TouchWiz installed on it
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Thats its only advantage tho, a lot of ppl say the battery life is not so good, my note 2 still has more battery life than some new phones.
iliadmoosavi said:
So i ended up getting the note 4, is there any way to get rid of all the bloatware and make the software just like the nexus phones? Have the roots came out yet?
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Think that's a question for the note 4 forum...no one in the nexus 6 forum will have this issue.[emoji41]
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Think that's a question for the note 4 forum...no one in the nexus 6 forum will have this issue.[emoji41]
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ur right, and i cant move it!

Note 5, flip it or love it?

Hey XDA
Brief background, want to make this small post here.
Had the S4 for a year, actually enjoyed it for what it was worth, wanted out as soon as we knew for sure there was no root. Stock Touchwiz was just terrible on the 4.
I've never had the chance to own a Nexus device before, my carrier upgrades always came just before the Nexus devices were released, and I've been so ready to upgrade when it comes I jump on it.
This time around I stuck with my G3 for a while. I love this phone. I'm ready for new, and the phones coming out this year are not quite "notable"
I really have my eyes on the Nexus 6P - but US carriers not selling it means I have a decision to make. Got my dad the Note 4 earlier this year, he likes it. I like it the little bit I've played with it. I feel I could even use the Note 5 to replace my notebook in class for notes. ATT bootloader seems to be like the S4. Not much will come of bootloader unlocks with this phone.. It appears.
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So I will upgrade through ATT, probably to the Note 5. Question is - stay with the Note 5 and learn to love it, despite the experiences I've had with Samsung, or flip it unopened on CL and order up the N6P....??
I really do not want a subpar camera to the G3, nor do I want a dull screen. Both devices seem on par, both no SD, battery not removable on the Note... Cameras both good..
Anyone here want the Nexus 6P?! Willing to get rid of your Note 5 for it?
The 6P looks sweet (literally and figuratively) but I'll never buy a smartphone with the Snapdragon 810. I already have a stove.
If i had a real need for a second phone, Nexus 6P will be my choice
I like Note5 as my main phone, S pen is really helpful, and makes you smart ?
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I see. Can anyone here tell me if it's valid to think you could completely replace a notebook and take notes in an 8 hour class day with the n5?
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KarimSalloum said:
The 6P looks sweet (literally and figuratively) but I'll never buy a smartphone with the Snapdragon 810. I already have a stove.
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The phone hasn't even come out yet, wait until someone can review it. There are phones with the chip that heat up a lot, and some that don't heat at all.
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I've had the Note 5 for a few weeks now, it is an excellent all-around Android phone.
I think the Nexus 6p looks great too, has pros and cons like any phone.
I think the Note 5 is the better all-around device and is the premier flagship Android phone of 2015.
I don't think you could sit and take notes for 8 hours on this phone. Lol. Maybe you could, maybe not. I would never want to do that.
The Nexus 6p is using the SnapDragon 810 version 2.1 - heat issues have "supposedly" been resolved on that version.
Some things to consider with AT&T:
1) You can't root but you can use Samsung Pay
2) Resale value on AT&T branded Samsung phones (Android in general) are lower than other models like T-Mobile, due to the locked bootloader, they usually sell for less/resale for less.
So I don't think you want to take a risk and purchase the phone from them, only to sell it for less.
Worst come to worst, try it out, they should give you 14 days to try it and return it. Something like that.
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I've had the Note 5 for a few weeks now, it is an excellent all-around Android phone.
I think the Nexus 6p looks great too, has pros and cons like any phone.
I think the Note 5 is the better all-around device and is the premier flagship Android phone of 2015.
I don't think you could sit and take notes for 8 hours on this phone. Lol. Maybe you could, maybe not. I would never want to do that.
The Nexus 6p is using the SnapDragon 810 version 2.1 - heat issues have "supposedly" been resolved on that version.
Some things to consider with AT&T:
1) You can't root but you can use Samsung Pay
2) Resale value on AT&T branded Samsung phones (Android in general) are lower than other models like T-Mobile, due to the locked bootloader, they usually sell for less/resale for less.
So I don't think you want to take a risk and purchase the phone from them, only to sell it for less.
Worst come to worst, try it out, they should give you 14 days to try it and return it. Something like that.
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True and true. I may end up doing that. Will be end of this month or next, don't want to make a payment to pay off my G3, got 4 months left but they usually let you swap with 2 left.
I want to try the N5, the S6 edge has a brilliant screen but not for me.
I just really have my heart set on this N6P. If I don't like what I get with the Note5 I may return it for a iPhone6S and sell that on CL. Should get more $$$ for it. Overnight myself a N6P and I'll be good to go.
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It depends if you want stock Android or not. That's all it really comes down to cause the Note 5 has everything else the 6P has for the most part.
I personally can't stand stock Android, so I'm sticking with the Note 5. Stock Android is insanely boring and featureless compared to Touchwiz. And the Note 5 has the S-Pen.
WizeGuyDezignz said:
It depends if you want stock Android or not. That's all it really comes down to cause the Note 5 has everything else the 6P has for the most part.
I personally can't stand stock Android, so I'm sticking with the Note 5. Stock Android is insanely boring and featureless compared to Touchwiz. And the Note 5 has the S-Pen.
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Indeed. That's true. I love vanilla Android. I wish the OnePlus 2 was a bit better... I'd sweep that in a heartbeat.
Touchwiz in my experience has been very Ram consuming and slow with the amazing hardware Samsung has brought to the table. It ruins the phone in my opinion. If course, the Note typically has better optimized software and useful features.
I lean more and more to the n6p every time I look at it. But again, ATT doesn't sell. Going to really suck
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WizeGuyDezignz said:
It depends if you want stock Android or not. That's all it really comes down to cause the Note 5 has everything else the 6P has for the most part.
I personally can't stand stock Android, so I'm sticking with the Note 5. Stock Android is insanely boring and featureless compared to Touchwiz. And the Note 5 has the S-Pen.
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I agree, I think somewhere along the line, maybe around lollipop, I started to enjoy the touchwiz version more because of all the useful features built in to the OS.
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CoNsPiRiSiZe said:
That's true. I love vanilla Android. I wish the OnePlus 2 was a bit better...
Touchwiz in my experience has been very Ram consuming and slow with the amazing hardware Samsung has brought to the table. It ruins the phone in my opinion.
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I've had the Note 3, 4 and now 5. In my opinion, each iteration is slowly getting refined to be a better version compared to the last. If they keep this up, all the old stereotypes about touchwiz will eventually be obsolete.
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I've had the Note 3, 4 and now 5. In my opinion, each iteration is slowly getting refined to be a better version compared to the last. If they keep this up, all the old stereotypes about touchwiz will eventually be obsolete.
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Old stereotypes are still there... yeah there's less bloatware but have you seen the RAM management on the Note5? Shameful.
Now that the V10 is out I would also consider that as an option. It looks fantastic.
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ekerbuddyeker said:
Now that the V10 is out I would also consider that as an option. It looks fantastic.
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What V10?
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CoNsPiRiSiZe said:
What V10?
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LG.
KarimSalloum said:
Old stereotypes are still there... yeah there's less bloatware but have you seen the RAM management on the Note5? Shameful.
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I think RAM management can easily be fixed with a software update.
The Note 5 - even with this "RAM management" issue - is still the fastest, smoothest Note I've used. Hands down!
Software was never a strong suite for Samsung, however, they are learning. Fast enough for some people, slow for others.
It should only get better...
WizeGuyDezignz said:
LG.
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Saw it... Not interested in the front screen thing, seems a bit gimicky...
But... Could be neat. I don't think I will wait that long until I upgrade.
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I think RAM management can easily be fixed with a software update.
The Note 5 - even with this "RAM management" issue - is still the fastest, smoothest Note I've used. Hands down!
Software was never a strong suite for Samsung, however, they are learning. Fast enough for some people, slow for others.
It should only get better...
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Yeah, yet the track record shows Samsung will not upgrade the software's RAM consumption near as much as they could. They just don't have our interests at heart, rather the general public. After all we are a minority on XDA.
May settle for the Note5, will have to find time to go play with one in the store soon..
Otherwise I'll flip an iPhone 6S for the N6P... Ugh.
CoNsPiRiSiZe said:
I see. Can anyone here tell me if it's valid to think you could completely replace a notebook and take notes in an 8 hour class day with the n5?
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I say no. It may just be my writing, but I can only fit maybe 4-5 legible words across the screen in portrait mode, which makes for a lot of +New notes, or one lonnnnnnng one.
I've had my fun with it, but I am realizing it's just not convenient to try and pack a tablet into a phone, and use a phablet as a phone. I am now leaning more towards having a tablet for actual writing on, and a phone I can use easily in one hand for texting/emailing/calling.

Should I get Note 4?

Ok guys i want a note 4.A guy is selling a used one that is 910t (t-mobile).I just want to know that is it rootable on latest firmware marshmallow?
And i can get its odin flashable stock roms in case something goes wrong?
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I will be honest with you. While my Note 4 worked without issues, it was the best phone I ever had and I would not even think to upgrade it. However, about two months after my warranty expired, I received an update (I rooted my phone a week before to use wifi tether) and it began to glitch really bad. This have been reported in a thread right below this one (ddi: mmc_read failed....) check it out. Some people report the same issue that something is going on with the phone's internals. After recent update (epk2), the glitching stopped a bit and only happen when I run some apps (not very heavy ones, as if RAM fails or emmc). Not me nor anyone in that thread was able to clearly identify what is the problem. Could be anything from bad emmc chip to anything in the hardware. Could be just OS getting messed up. So if you buy it, be cautious when you going to mod it.
I ordered a new motherboard and hopefully this phone will last me another year or two. Really loved it!
I was going to root it right after buying it but now i'm curious.Is there any way to check if device has that issue or not?
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I was going to root it right after buying it but now i'm curious.Is there any way to check if device has that issue or not?
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I don't even know. It happened to others on different occasions. Some reported it as early as August and they had a different version of bootloader and OS from mine. Could be that some of the phones have bad emmc chip (like old MyTouch 4G - HTC had two different vendors for chips. While one was good, the other was failing over time). Maybe if everyone in that thread checked and posted their versions of hardware - we could get somewhere...
By the way, other Note 4 versions also experience this issue.
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I was going to root it right after buying it but now i'm curious.Is there any way to check if device has that issue or not?
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What are your options?
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ubigred said:
What are your options?
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Note 4 only
Actually i want a flagship phone not a mid ranger so i can get all good features in a mobile.
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umair42 said:
Note 4 only
Actually i want a flagship phone not a mid ranger so i can get all good features in a mobile.
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Go with 6p or Nexus 6
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ubigred said:
Go with 6p or Nexus 6
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Here in pakistan,there are very few people who use nexus phones so it's not possible to get it.Mostl people use samsung,lg or iphone,they are easily available and in good price
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Here in pakistan,there are very few people who use nexus phones so it's not possible to get it.Mostl people use samsung,lg or iphone,they are easily available and in good price
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Oh I see.
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Go for it, if the condition of the phone is up to your liking. Im on SmoresV1 6.0.1 rooted with the beastmode kernel and the phone is running great. No issues or problems with it.
Once I upgraded my Note4 to Android 5, and later 6 the phone experienced severe overheating issues. It finally died, and then two weeks ago I received a new replacement note4 with 5.0.1, it just bricked today.
Do not get a Note4 unless it is running 4.4.4, and do not upgrade.
keithwwalker said:
Once I upgraded my Note4 to Android 5, and later 6 the phone experienced severe overheating issues. It finally died, and then two weeks ago I received a new replacement note4 with 5.0.1, it just bricked today.
Do not get a Note4 unless it is running 4.4.4, and do not upgrade.
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Actually I've already got note 4 and it was on 5.0.1.I upgraded it to 6.0.1 and everything is fine(and hope it stays this way).
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Well good for you, but a lot of people are having their phones bricked (just browse this forum). This is not a reliable phone when it is upgraded.
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Actually I've already got note 4 and it was on 5.0.1.I upgraded it to 6.0.1 and everything is fine(and hope it stays this way).
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Samsung might release the note 7 again with a better battery i would wait on that
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Once I upgraded my Note4 to Android 5, and later 6 the phone experienced severe overheating issues. It finally died, and then two weeks ago I received a new replacement note4 with 5.0.1, it just bricked today.
Do not get a Note4 unless it is running 4.4.4, and do not upgrade.
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Thats not true bro i am running 6.0.1 from 9months without any issues and before that 5.1.1. I had some battery issues but since i got new battery everything is fine now.
Probably something wrong with your device motherboard.
Kitkat is outdated now and many games doesn't work.
No it is true that many users are having problems with upgrades. I didn't say you had a problem. I had the same problem with a BRAND NEW Note4 in 2 weeks of use.
I am going to be the odd one out and NOT recommend that you buy this phone if you want the most reliable custom ROM experience.
The hardware is all there, it's all great. It's got that tablet pen (if you use it, it's a pretty good Wacom-enabled one.) The problem is the software support. None of the bigger, official ROMs like LineageOS, AOSP, AICP, CopperheadOS etc... officially support it. The firmware is very tricky and difficult to get working, I'd assume. And I don't trust any of the developers here in terms of how long they will support their ROMs. Anyone, anytime could just decide that they don't want to support their ROM anymore, then all those contributions will usually either go to waste, or hopefully become forked. Regardless, after the discontinuation of Cyanogenmod and the huge disappointment I've felt over the past few months with no big developments on the Note 4 on LineageOS, I can't really say that the Note 4 is a good choice for software developer support.
Do the right thing, and get a smartphone supported by the major custom ROMs (LineageOS, AOSP, AICP, CopperheadOS). Unfortunately, any ROMs that have a foothold and a Website, usually set the groundwork for other ROMs, and the stage of what phones should be supported. The Galaxy Note 4 is on none of those lists, and this is a very sad, sad thing, but it's just the reality of it. The vast amount of proprietary firmware used on this phone is hard to support and it leads to difficulties and reliability issues. There's also so many variants of Samsung Note phones to support (like 10 or more) it just becomes ridiculous to support everyone's Note build variants. It's silly, to have to support so many variants of nearly the same hardware, isn't it?
Leave it up to Samsung to ruin such a great hardware concept by their corporate BS and leadership. The only Android phones people should be buying now are ones officially supported from Google, and popular custom ROMs. Don't depend on just any XDA developer to keep your ROM of choice supported for 8+ years. Just don't do it...
Guys I have already got note 4 and been using it for past 2 weeks.And for the custom rom support,I don't like aosp roms,so that's not a problem.I use stock roms only(or custom rom based on stock).
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Once I upgraded my Note4 to Android 5, and later 6 the phone experienced severe overheating issues. It finally died, and then two weeks ago I received a new replacement note4 with 5.0.1, it just bricked today.
Do not get a Note4 unless it is running 4.4.4, and do not upgrade.
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Yeah my Note 4 started out on KitKat I went to lollipop then to marshmallow and back to lollipop no problem love this phone...haven't herd about this issue

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