Android 6 vs Android 5, which is better? - G 2014 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi. I need to ask this. Which one is better for all of you. I need to now it!.
Thanks

Android 6.0.1 Marshmallow is better.
Use Google, you can find out why.
And if you're asking specifically about our device, then Android Marshmallow is better. The battery life in marshmallow CM is twice that of lollipop thanks to Doze and the new enhancements to battery life.
Lollipop is at End Of Life.

It's better for people who can make it work for them. ..
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Look at all the people with bricked devices as a result of the upgrade. Plus you can't view the content of your phone on your PC not can you load any files to your your memory card.. My advice stay with lolipop til there is a solution to these issues. Just saying ...
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Another question is that if Marshmallow is so good why are so many people installing it , not liking it and bricking their phones in an attempt to downgrade...? BTW I up graded my phone to 6.0 using the xt1069 Brazilian version with the TWRP recovery method and then downgraded back to 5.0.2 using the easy installer with not problems at all. It's only when I used the Indian soak test there my phone bricked whilst trying to downgrade.

@garyben60 Idk what you've done with your phone but I can browse my files just fine on my PC and my SD card is working too.

Nahuwii said:
@garyben60 Idk what you've done with your phone but I can browse my files just fine on my PC and my SD card is working too.
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Good for you!!

Well it depends
Stock 6.0 is good, but when it comes to multitasking IMO it slows down . Also 6.0.1 has better improvements.
CM13(6.0.1)/Custom 6.0.1 is great, but the touch screen bug is a deal breaker for me. It messes up scrolling in Firefox, aiming in games is really really bad, and some games do not respond to touch at all.
Stock 5.0.2 is too slow for me, it's bad at multitasking
Custom 5.1.1 (on slimsaber ATM) is the android version/ROM that works best on me.
Don't take my opinion as final, test out the ROMs for yourself!

iG0tB0lts said:
Stock 6.0 is good, but when it comes to multitasking IMO it slows down . Also 6.0.1 has better improvements.
CM13(6.0.1)/Custom 6.0.1 is great, but the touch screen bug is a deal breaker for me. It messes up scrolling in Firefox, aiming in games is really really bad, and some games do not respond to touch at all.
Stock 5.0.2 is too slow for me, it's bad at multitasking
Custom 5.1.1 (on slimsaber ATM) is the android version/ROM that works best on me.
Don't take my opinion as final, test out the ROMs for yourself!
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Where can I download this ROM?

garyben60 said:
Where can I download this ROM?
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Which ROM?

iG0tB0lts said:
Which ROM?
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Custom 5.1.1 (on slimsaber ATM that one

garyben60 said:
Custom 5.1.1 (on slimsaber ATM that one
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Minimal OS is also good.
Anyway,
this is the download of SlimSaber:
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=24352994023710070
and this is rom thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g-2014/development/rom-slimsaber-titan-t3208942
check the last page of the rom thread for my review. Make sure that once you complete setup wizard, go to settings>sound&notif>other sounds and disable screen locking sounds and touch sounds. Don't forget to do this immediately otherwise it may result in heavy AudioMix wakelock. I recommend highly CM12.1 decipher kernel with this ROM for battery.
you can see my settings thread here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g-2014/general/settings-tweaks-forperformance-battery-t3310682

iG0tB0lts said:
Minimal OS is also good.
Anyway,
this is the download of SlimSaber:
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=24352994023710070
and this is rom thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g-2014/development/rom-slimsaber-titan-t3208942
check the last page of the rom thread for my review. Make sure that once you complete setup wizard, go to settings>sound&notif>other sounds and disable screen locking sounds and touch sounds. Don't forget to do this immediately otherwise it may result in heavy AudioMix wakelock. I recommend highly CM12.1 decipher kernel with this ROM for battery.
you can see my settings thread here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g-2014/general/settings-tweaks-forperformance-battery-t3310682
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Thanks, much appreciated

Problems with Android 6.0.1
Hi all!
Can you all please list out all the issues that you faced as problems after updating to MM.
I haven't updated yet. Was wondering whether to update it or not.
Thanks again.

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[ROM Share][MSM8960 Unified] SOKP [SOKP-V-1-KK444-KTU84Q]

Hello guys & gals,
This is a very great ROM with great customization. I have been using for almost a day now, it is running flawlessly.
For more information on what features this rom has to bring , visit this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2728554
SOKP recommends you to download their gapps!!
New build is up as 8-08, will keep this thread updated with new builds.
THIS IS FOR JB BL ONLY!
FLASH AT YOUR OWN RISK, I AM NOT REPOSIBLE FOR ANY DAMAGE CAUSED TO YOUR DEVICE. THIS WILL VOID WARRANTY.
Download link (gapps as well):
https://mega.co.nz/#F!cs9hzRIK!Dr0Px-7QMKGQMoQFmWaZ6g
Credit to:
SOKP team for creating the ROM.
@nprev420 for building the ROM for our bl
How is the rom going for you? Is there any problems?
I'm pretty interested in it so far and kinda want to get kitkat that is fully functional.
Justatechie said:
How is the rom going for you? Is there any problems?
I'm pretty interested in it so far and kinda want to get kitkat that is fully functional.
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Honestly it is great! I had about a fc but that was on the first day, I haven't got one since then. Has lots of customization.
So there's no issues with GPS and Bluetooth?
Would this be considered a daily driver?
Justatechie said:
So there's no issues with GPS and Bluetooth?
Would this be considered a daily driver?
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I would consider this as a daily driver. Honestly, I don't use gps nor Bluetooth but you can go ahead and try and see if there is no issues.
I'm gonna flash this rom, looks very good from the screenshots with all of the customizations
RagInCajun00 said:
I'm gonna flash this rom, looks very good from the screenshots with all of the customizations
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I love this ROM! Has lots of customization. If you can report back, that'd be awesome.
Always happy to help! How would you describe battery life?
RagInCajun00 said:
Always happy to help! How would you describe battery life?
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It is pretty good.
RagInCajun00 said:
Always happy to help! How would you describe battery life?
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As I am the one that built this ROM (all thanks to SOKP for their source) I recommend changing your governor to "Ondemand" and IO scheduler to "Deadline". I have had the best performance/battery life with this combination on many ROMs including this one. Anyways have fun with the ROM. I will be updating it frequently and sharing with the OP to give you my new builds.
Awesome! Hopefully, this will be my daily driver until the bootloader is updated
RagInCajun00 said:
Awesome! Hopefully, this will be my daily driver until the bootloader is updated
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I am on Razr M, which got the updated bootloader. I wad building for the new bootloader but given all the bugs at the moment I reverted back to the JB bootloader. Much more stable. Had wifi and bluetooth issues, On a phone call if you switch to speaker then back to mic then the other person can't hear you. Just a few bugs to mention. So until these bugs are fixed I will be building for the the JB bootloader.
nprev420 said:
As I am the one that built this ROM (all thanks to SOKP for their source) I recommend changing your governor to "Ondemand" and IO scheduler to "Deadline". I have had the best performance/battery life with this combination on many ROMs including this one. Anyways have fun with the ROM. I will be updating it frequently and sharing with the OP to give you my new builds.
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Thank you very much for this making this rom available to the AHD! I'm flashing it now as we speak and I will use the settings as well as seeing if ART will increase performance as well as battery life much better
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nprev420 said:
I am on Razr M, which got the updated bootloader. I wad building for the new bootloader but given all the bugs at the moment I reverted back to the JB bootloader. Much more stable. Had wifi and bluetooth issues, On a phone call if you switch to speaker then back to mic then the other person can't hear you. Just a few bugs to mention. So until these bugs are fixed I will be building for the the JB bootloader.
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Hmm, maybe there will be an update released soon enough to squash out the bugs, maybe something to do with the speaker in itself
RagInCajun00 said:
Thank you very much for this making this rom available to the AHD! I'm flashing it now as we speak and I will use the settings as well as seeing if ART will increase performance as well as battery life much better
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Hmm, maybe there will be an update released soon enough to squash out the bugs, maybe something to do with the speaker in itself
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I personally wouldn't use ART, two reasons...one most apps aren't compatible yet and two, xposed frameworks doesn't work with ART.
They maybe an update soon, but for now JB bootloader is much more stable. So i reverted back and I wlil share my builds. And you're welcome for building it. I love building roms, and I don't mind sharing what I build. Not my work....I just make ROMs I think look cool compatible with my phone. Glad I found SOKP because it is freaking awesome.
nprev420 said:
As I am the one that built this ROM (all thanks to SOKP for their source) I recommend changing your governor to "Ondemand" and IO scheduler to "Deadline". I have had the best performance/battery life with this combination on many ROMs including this one. Anyways have fun with the ROM. I will be updating it frequently and sharing with the OP to give you my new builds.
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Loving it so far! Very smooth without a single force close! But there are no APNs lol
RagInCajun00 said:
Loving it so far! Very smooth without a single force close! But there are no APNs lol
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Like I said before, I build for my phone and share it. I have a Verizon phone and they don't require APNs. Glad to hear you like it so far.
nprev420 said:
Like I said before, I build for my phone and share it. I have a Verizon phone and they don't require APNs. Glad to hear you like it so far.
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I got em, just had to register it to AT&T
RagInCajun00 said:
I got em, just had to register it to AT&T
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My device had apns
New build up. If you get a blank screen right after the boot animation, just reboot your device using power and volume up and down method. Other than that, everything is working fine & smoothly.
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Why not create a thread at developers forum from maintainer?

My S5 recieved 6.0.1 update couple days ago!!! But know my phone isn't getting Charge

I updated to 6.0.1 it worked well with some laggs, but yesterday a message from System UI in the notification bar said your Device is Heated alot we'll reduce performance, Screen Brightness and will block charging from then i tried alot but my phone is not getting charged please help {SM-G900H}
please help:crying:
[email protected]
This update 6.0 is sucks if u ask me..
I tried the update several times and everytime i go back to lollipop 5.0 .. why? Heating, poor battery life, LAGS !!, slow charging compared to lollipop, my fav app (Mx Player) doesn't work well on MM..
Maybe it's not meant to work on old devices :/
Well, it's best update since android 4.4,
Battery is awesome, performance is good, all smooth.
Sent from my SM-G900H
hamed334 said:
Well, it's best update since android 4.4,
Battery is awesome, performance is good, all smooth.
Sent from my SM-G900H
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Now that's a lie.
Paolonicus said:
Now that's a lie.
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***** please.
Wipe everything and do a clean install.
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@Killer_007
@Supernatural77
@Paolonicus
MM is much much better than KK or Lollipop
Battery life increased a lot
And till now I did not face any heating issues
MM is butter smooth on my s5 G900H
Try going to stock recovery and clear cache partition and data
And then flash stock rom
Sometimes it might be a problem with your country rom
If problem still exists
Try flashing any nearby country's rom of your model number
hamed334 said:
***** please.
Wipe everything and do a clean install.
Sent from my SM-G900H
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I already did dumbass. That's the norm when installing/flashing a newer Android OS Build.
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yash92duster said:
@Killer_007
@Supernatural77
@Paolonicus
MM is much much better than KK or Lollipop
Battery life increased a lot
And till now I did not face any heating issues
MM is butter smooth on my s5 G900H
Try going to stock recovery and clear cache partition and data
And then flash stock rom
Sometimes it might be a problem with your country rom
If problem still exists
Try flashing any nearby country's rom of your model number
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I already did those. Based on my experience with stock roms, performance varies with region. I tried nearly all of the firmwares from other regions, but they all have the same issue, some are even worse.
Paolonicus said:
I already did dumbass. That's the norm when installing/flashing a newer Android OS Build.
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I already did those. Based on my experience with stock roms, performance varies with region. I tried nearly all of the firmwares from other regions, but they all have the same issue, some are even worse.
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Did you try any custom roms ?
yash92duster said:
Did you try any custom roms ?
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I also did, except for CyanogenMod which I never liked.
But yes, still the same results.
Retards 6.0.1 is 100% better than lollipop
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6.0.1 or 5.1.1?

Hey,
I'm still using the stock 4.3 ROM currently but it is sooo slow and laggy so I want to upgrade to a custom ROM. I'm looking for a fast and stable ROM and don't care that much about customization. Should I go for a 6.0.1 ROM or a 5.1.1 ROM? Is 5.1.1 more stable?
I looked through some ROMs from Lollipop Hub and came to the conclusion that Candy5 seems to be one of the fastest ROMs. It is supposed to be combined with the Tangerine Kernel, but that is discontinued. Can I use the Helium Kernel instead?
Since Candy5 was not updated in some time, but Sabermod was, should I rather take Sabermod? And if so, should I use the included kernel or take another one?
Most of the ROMs from Marshmallow Hub have been updated in the last couple of days. Does this mean that I have to (or at least should) update my ROM, if I chose on from here, every couple of days/weeks as well? I would prefer something that I install once and then I'm good for a while .
So, what I am basically asking is: Should I go for a Marshmallow or a Lollipop ROM (and why) and which one is the most stable and has the best performance (and with which kernel should I combine it)? For Lollipop: Candy5 or Sabermod? For Marshmallow: CM13 or Sabermod or Temasek? Or something completely different?
edit: Please don't read this as "what is best ROM, I am too lazy to test stuff myself"
I mostly need help deciding between Marshmallow and Lollipop, and, if Lollipop is "better", as in more stable/faster, then I need to know if Candy5 is a good option and which kernel to take with it (since the last update was in December, I have no idea if it is outdated or something and the reviews in the Lollipop hub are from October...^^).
suffmonster said:
Hey,
I'm still using the stock 4.3 ROM currently but it is sooo slow and laggy so I want to upgrade to a custom ROM. I'm looking for a fast and stable ROM and don't care that much about customization. Should I go for a 6.0.1 ROM or a 5.1.1 ROM? Is 5.1.1 more stable?
I looked through some ROMs from Lollipop Hub and came to the conclusion that Candy5 seems to be one of the fastest ROMs. It is supposed to be combined with the Tangerine Kernel, but that is discontinued. Can I use the Helium Kernel instead?
Since Candy5 was not updated in some time, but Sabermod was, should I rather take Sabermod? And if so, should I use the included kernel or take another one?
Most of the ROMs from Marshmallow Hub have been updated in the last couple of days. Does this mean that I have to (or at least should) update my ROM, if I chose on from here, every couple of days/weeks as well? I would prefer something that I install once and then I'm good for a while .
So, what I am basically asking is: Should I go for a Marshmallow or a Lollipop ROM (and why) and which one is the most stable and has the best performance (and with which kernel should I combine it)? For Lollipop: Candy5 or Sabermod? For Marshmallow: CM13 or Sabermod or Temasek? Or something completely different?
edit: Please don't read this as "what is best ROM, I am too lazy to test stuff myself"
I mostly need help deciding between Marshmallow and Lollipop, and, if Lollipop is "better", as in more stable/faster, then I need to know if Candy5 is a good option and which kernel to take with it (since the last update was in December, I have no idea if it is outdated or something and the reviews in the Lollipop hub are from October...^^).
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M using MM [ latest build ] with PurePerformance X and the Rom performance is flawless. I love CM13. Previously , I was in stock Rom , then switched to Xperia SP stock Slim rom , then Cm11 and now finally CM13. SP looks great with CM13.
Gshrestha said:
M using MM [ latest build ] with PurePerformance X and the Rom performance is flawless. I love CM13. Previously , I was in stock Rom , then switched to Xperia SP stock Slim rom , then Cm11 and now finally CM13. SP looks great with CM13.
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Ok sound good . I read on some CM13 ROMs that the camera was not working and that the problem is within CM13 and not the ROMs issue... is this still the case? Because some CM13 ROMs do NOT have this written in their bug section Oo
suffmonster said:
Ok sound good . I read on some CM13 ROMs that the camera was not working and that the problem is within CM13 and not the ROMs issue... is this still the case? Because some CM13 ROMs do NOT have this written in their bug section Oo
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Nope..As per my experience everythings working fine with CM13 in Xperia SP.Camera too works well.Plus , flashing extra zips make the SP with CM 13 smooth and flawless .
I have tried Lollipop and Marshmallow and they are both terrible. Its a bad phone with bad specs and it will never be good.
Bigrrd225 said:
I have tried Lollipop and Marshmallow and they are both terrible. Its a bad phone with bad specs and it will never be good.
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Haha thanks for your awesome contribution
Unfortunately, I own this phone and will not buy a new one just because you don't like it.
To me, it's a decent phone and with a fitting ROM I'm pretty sure that I will be quite content with it.
Performance and stability depends on the rom, not the version itself. Most of the lp and mm roms are "almost" bugfree right now. So, try whatever you like. I couldn't see much difference between them but I loved marshmallow more.
Also in my humble opinion, carbon lp gives better performance compared to the candy5. Especially when combined with helium.
I used CM 12.1 But i think it was a little buggy. Cm 13 is great smooth, no bugs whatsoever. I also recommend XOSP. Its fast too and it looks like a proper Xperia device
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Bigrrd225 said:
I have tried Lollipop and Marshmallow and they are both terrible. Its a bad phone with bad specs and it will never be good.
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Haha i think someone had to tell everybody this phone is bad, so his parents buy him a new one
Tebex said:
I used CM 12.1 But i think it was a little buggy. Cm 13 is great smooth, no bugs whatsoever. I also recommend XOSP. Its fast too and it looks like a proper Xperia device
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Haha i think someone had to tell everybody this phone is bad, so his parents buy him a new one
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That doesn't even make sense. Am I supposed to be offended by this somehow?
Bigrrd225 said:
That doesn't even make sense. Am I supposed to be offended by this somehow?
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I dont know... Are you?
ExclusiveBFS said:
Performance and stability depends on the rom, not the version itself. Most of the lp and mm roms are "almost" bugfree right now. So, try whatever you like. I couldn't see much difference between them but I loved marshmallow more.
Also in my humble opinion, carbon lp gives better performance compared to the candy5. Especially when combined with helium.
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I'm running CM13 Sabermod with stock kernel and it runs smoothly and I have not noticed any bugs yet. It's a bit laggy playing Pokemon GO (which was the main reason for my upgrade from 4.3 lol), but I'm relatively sure that its because of the "outdated" hardware, which no ROM can fix.
So thank you to everybody that actually contributed something to this thread

[Q] Which one is the best 6.0.1 ROM for XT1058 so far?

Just read the title!
All of them have bugs. This makes all of them not worthy for daily-use for me. Not that other ROMs doesn't have, but having to use a workaround to use flash is a big deal to me.
I agree with ^above, there are no really stable roms right now. I am using AICP as daily, and I experience random **** all the time. It's kind of frustrating, but it won't change because there are no dedicated people to work on this device. All the "maintainers" do half-assed jobs, they don't really care about MotoX 2013. Kind of understandable, because it's not a very popular device, and it's hard to work with because of the custom hardware.
Renan Lazarotto said:
All of them have bugs. This makes all of them not worthy for daily-use for me. Not that other ROMs doesn't have, but having to use a workaround to use flash is a big deal to me.
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Sorry, but what do u need to make them worthable for daily use? Im using july's RR and im not facing any issue at all, everything except screen cast\recording works.
I think u dont find it cuz u dont want to get it done, this rom is mm cm13 based.
TheSaw said:
I agree with ^above, there are no really stable roms right now. I am using AICP as daily, and I experience random **** all the time. It's kind of frustrating, but it won't change because there are no dedicated people to work on this device. All the "maintainers" do half-assed jobs, they don't really care about MotoX 2013. Kind of understandable, because it's not a very popular device, and it's hard to work with because of the custom hardware.
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@rr 6.0.1
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Renan Lazarotto said:
All of them have bugs. This makes all of them not worthy for daily-use for me. Not that other ROMs doesn't have, but having to use a workaround to use flash is a big deal to me.
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Sorry, but what do u need to make them worthable for daily use? Im using july's RR and im not facing any issue at all, everything except screen cast\recording works.
I think u dont find it cuz u dont want to get it done, this rom is mm cm13 based.
TheSaw said:
I agree with ^above, there are no really stable roms right now. I am using AICP as daily, and I experience random **** all the time. It's kind of frustrating, but it won't change because there are no dedicated people to work on this device. All the "maintainers" do half-assed jobs, they don't really care about MotoX 2013. Kind of understandable, because it's not a very popular device, and it's hard to work with because of the custom hardware.
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@rr 6.0.1
santi1993 said:
Sorry, but what do u need to make them worthable for daily use? Im using july's RR and im not facing any issue at all, everything except screen cast\recording works.
I think u dont find it cuz u dont want to get it done, this rom is mm cm13 based.
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Missing video recording is a dealbreaker to me. Torchlight too. Almost every other bug I don't care, but those 2 are important to me. And I don't like RR or any ROM that adds too much customization options, most of them to me are either redundant or useless.
So what is the most stable rom atm?
Can we conclude official cm12.1 to be the most stable rom for ghost?
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riyosakura said:
So what is the most stable rom atm?
Can we conclude official cm12.1 to be the most stable rom for ghost?
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Did u read me?
Sent from my fridge running CM13
santi1993 said:
Did u read me?
Sent from my fridge running CM13
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so, in your opinion RR is the most stable ROM?
I'm asking whether CM12.1 is the most stable or other ROM?
riyosakura said:
so, in your opinion RR is the most stable ROM?
I'm asking whether CM12.1 is the most stable or other ROM?
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Yes, the unique problem i've faced is gps cant locking satellites, but is a very well documented problem in all cm roms since ever and its fixable if u get gps lock on ur device BEFORE flashing a rom and shutting it off without deactivating locations.
overlooked 6.0.1. none so far, all buggy.
I'm running RR on a 1056 and so far it's been perfectly stable. No crashes, no random reboots, everything's worked out of the box. And I actually prefer the stock Chromium-based browser to actual Chrome, it's faster.

TP too slow for decent use, am I the only one?

Hey there,
I've been updating my TP regularly for the last 4 years or so, and it always have been kinda slow and laggy sometimes but as far as I can remember I was at least able to browse and play some games a couple years ago. I don't really know when I started to realize that my TP is virtually impossible to use due to SO many lags and not responding apps.
Not talking about dirty flash or GApps problems though, I always clean flash new roms and kernels and for the first 5 minutes or so the TP is reacting kinda fast. But after a while it takes literally ages to open up an app, to the point where I have to restart the device.
For example using the "update all" button in Google Play will never update all the apps because for some reason the download speed will be super slow after a while and installing a single app will take up to 10 minutes.
That's the reason why my TP has just been catching dust for the last year but I had to give it another try and flash 7.1, but it's still the same story. Since the community around the TP is still kinda active, I feel like maybe this really just applies to my TP because there is no reason why anyone would still want to use this thing if it behaved like mine.
I've already given up on it and feeding it to the bin wouldn't hurt me at all, but before I do so: any ideas?
Regards
Check out my experiences with Evervolv 7.1.1: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=71176374&postcount=937
I was using an older build of 6.0, and it was just about unusable as you describe. It would take FOREVER to do the simplest things, even with nothing open. "Lag" was measured in seconds, and apps opening would be measured in minutes. I did these few things, and it's a whole new tablet!
1. Fresh install. Wipe EVERYTHING and start over with the newest 7.1.1 ROM.
2. Format Cache and Data to F2FS.
3. Use overclocked (1.8GHz) SKZ kernel.
4. Change Governor to LionHeart and I/O scheduler to Tripndroid.
5. Do NOT use Chrome from the GPlay store. Chrome will use up ALL of your (1GB) RAM, and make it unusable. I switched to ABP webrowser.
6. Download Greenify from GPlay store. Use it to hibernate EVERYTHING that's not essential. Again, saves your RAM for what's important.
Latest nightly (20170404) is really smooth
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crazyates said:
Check out my experiences with Evervolv 7.1.1: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=71176374&postcount=937
I was using an older build of 6.0, and it was just about unusable as you describe. It would take FOREVER to do the simplest things, even with nothing open. "Lag" was measured in seconds, and apps opening would be measured in minutes. I did these few things, and it's a whole new tablet!
1. Fresh install. Wipe EVERYTHING and start over with the newest 7.1.1 ROM.
2. Format Cache and Data to F2FS.
3. Use overclocked (1.8GHz) SKZ kernel.
4. Change Governor to LionHeart and I/O scheduler to Tripndroid.
5. Do NOT use Chrome from the GPlay store. Chrome will use up ALL of your (1GB) RAM, and make it unusable. I switched to ABP webrowser.
6. Download Greenify from GPlay store. Use it to hibernate EVERYTHING that's not essential. Again, saves your RAM for what's important.
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I'm kind of in the same boat as OP but I don't have a ton of experience. If you don't mind. How did you accomplish 2-4?
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I found these settings but my boil. Doesn't have the mentioned options so I overclocked to 1.7 and switched to the performance controller and that seems to help quite a bit!
Seatreader said:
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I'm kind of in the same boat as OP but I don't have a ton of experience. If you don't mind. How did you accomplish 2-4?
=UPDATE=
I found these settings but my boil. Doesn't have the mentioned options so I overclocked to 1.7 and switched to the performance controller and that seems to help quite a bit!
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I think they are talking about
#3 Shumash's SKZ kernel read here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/hp-touchpad/development/kernel-skz-overclock-kernel-evervolv-t3513534
#2 and F2FS install instructions read here, its in the Original Post and down a few paragraphs....its in Grey
and says ****Please Read *****
https://forum.xda-developers.com/hp-touchpad/development/rom-evervolv-7-0-0p1-wifi-t3456292
Seatreader said:
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I found these settings but my boil. Doesn't have the mentioned options so I overclocked to 1.7 and switched to the performance controller and that seems to help quite a bit!
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Performance will be the fastest you can, but don't be surprised if your battery life takes a pretty big hit.
DoubleStuff said:
I think they are talking about
#3 Shumash's SKZ kernel read here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/hp-touchpad/development/kernel-skz-overclock-kernel-evervolv-t3513534
#2 and F2FS install instructions read here, its in the Original Post and down a few paragraphs....its in Grey
and says ****Please Read *****
https://forum.xda-developers.com/hp-touchpad/development/rom-evervolv-7-0-0p1-wifi-t3456292
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Exactly. I used the SKZ kernel, and F2FS is set up in TWRP.
I had been running the Rock Solid MLQ 4.4.4. CM11 but I need a newer system to run Kodi 17.1
I have been playing with Evervolv 7.1.2 Nightly and SKZ Kernel but find it painfully slow and not great for daily driver. Touchpad is a 32GB wifi. Another great problem I have is the double/tripple and more keystrokes. I have yet yo narrow the problem down.
Was contemplating a Lollipop or Mashmallow Rom but not sure which one.
Please any advise or recommendations greatly appreciated.
dsmturbo said:
I had been running the Rock Solid MLQ 4.4.4. CM11 but I need a newer system to run Kodi 17.1
I have been playing with Evervolv 7.1.2 Nightly and SKZ Kernel but find it painfully slow and not great for daily driver. Touchpad is a 32GB wifi. Another great problem I have is the double/tripple and more keystrokes. I have yet yo narrow the problem down.
Was contemplating a Lollipop or Mashmallow Rom but not sure which one.
Please any advise or recommendations greatly appreciated.
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I had this ROM installed for a year or so, and it was solid!! Its JC Sullins 12.1 Lollipop.
Sullins 12.1 SOLID ROM
Thanks Doublestuff. I think I will keep playing with Evervolv Nougat a bit more to see if I can iron out some of the issues I am having.
dsmturbo said:
I had been running the Rock Solid MLQ 4.4.4. CM11 but I need a newer system to run Kodi 17.1
I have been playing with Evervolv 7.1.2 Nightly and SKZ Kernel but find it painfully slow and not great for daily driver. Touchpad is a 32GB wifi. Another great problem I have is the double/tripple and more keystrokes. I have yet yo narrow the problem down.
Was contemplating a Lollipop or Mashmallow Rom but not sure which one.
Please any advise or recommendations greatly appreciated.
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dsmturbo said:
Thanks Doublestuff. I think I will keep playing with Evervolv Nougat a bit more to see if I can iron out some of the issues I am having.
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Hey I haven't tested this but widevine has a fix for streaming services here Perhaps you could try his 4.4.4 flashable zip with MLQ's CM11 and see if that works with Kodi 17.1. I still find MLQ's CM11 to be the fastest most stable ROM for daily use vs my tablet with android 7.x.x.
You can also try the Lineage 14.1 build here but it also has several issues to overcome when setting it up. You'll also probably need to flash a streaming fix for 7.1.1 here If you test it please report back:highfive:
crazyates said:
Performance will be the fastest you can, but don't be surprised if your battery life takes a pretty big hit.
Exactly. I used the SKZ kernel, and F2FS is set up in TWRP.
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Did you find quite a performance increase going to the F2FS partition format? I am curious if it may give me a bit faster response.
I am still reading and trying to tweak the SKZ Kernel and Toolbox settings in Evervolv Nightly Nougat
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RolandDeschain79 said:
Hey I haven't tested this but widevine has a fix for streaming services here Perhaps you could try his 4.4.4 flashable zip with MLQ's CM11 and see if that works with Kodi 17.1. I still find MLQ's CM11 to be the fastest most stable ROM for daily use vs my tablet with android 7.x.x.
You can also try the Lineage 14.1 build here but it also has several issues to overcome when setting it up. You'll also probably need to flash a streaming fix for 7.1.1 here If you test it please report back:highfive:
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Thanks for the reply Roland. The problem is that Kodi 17.1 will not install on Kitkat....needs Lollipop or newer. And yes, your MLQ CM11 is a rock solid rom and I used it since it came out.
I will read up on this widevine and perhaps try it.
Now I am curious if switching to F2FS partitions will help at all with speed and usability.
dsmturbo said:
Did you find quite a performance increase going to the F2FS partition format? I am curious if it may give me a bit faster response.
I am still reading and trying to tweak the SKZ Kernel and Toolbox settings in Evervolv Nightly Nougat
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I have noticed improved performance on other devices when switching to F2FS. On this device it is a little bit better, but the main cause of slowdown on a TP is not the file system, but the underwhelming dual-core CPU and the 1GB of RAM. Both of those are more likely to slow down and/or freeze this tablet than anything else.
That said, any little bit helps, so I still went with the F2FS.
dsmturbo said:
I had been running the Rock Solid MLQ 4.4.4. CM11 but I need a newer system to run Kodi 17.1
I have been playing with Evervolv 7.1.2 Nightly and SKZ Kernel but find it painfully slow and not great for daily driver. Touchpad is a 32GB wifi. Another great problem I have is the double/tripple and more keystrokes. I have yet yo narrow the problem down.
Was contemplating a Lollipop or Mashmallow Rom but not sure which one.
Please any advise or recommendations greatly appreciated.
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Does it happen with all ROMS? I get hat a lot in Nougat 7.1.2.
How fast is it?
crazyates said:
I have noticed improved performance on other devices when switching to F2FS. On this device it is a little bit better, but the main cause of slowdown on a TP is not the file system, but the underwhelming dual-core CPU and the 1GB of RAM. Both of those are more likely to slow down and/or freeze this tablet than anything else.
That said, any little bit helps, so I still went with the F2FS.
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Would you mind posting some benchmark results for F2FS, inquiring minds and all that thanks
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dsmturbo said:
Did you find quite a performance increase going to the F2FS partition format? I am curious if it may give me a bit faster response.
I am still reading and trying to tweak the SKZ Kernel and Toolbox settings in Evervolv Nightly Nougat
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Thanks for the reply Roland. The problem is that Kodi 17.1 will not install on Kitkat....needs Lollipop or newer. And yes, your MLQ CM11 is a rock solid rom and I used it since it came out.
I will read up on this widevine and perhaps try it.
Now I am curious if switching to F2FS partitions will help at all with speed and usability.
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I'm also curious about F2FS :fingers-crossed: Even the android apks here for Kodi don't work? I see its missing from the playstore for CM11.
samgu said:
Does it happen with all ROMS? I get hat a lot in Nougat 7.1.2.
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Well ever since I redid with a Clean install of the 02-15-17 rom and formatted to F2FS then upgraded to latest nightly build -05-19-17 I believe it is, my TP is running somewhat better and faster. At least it is useable now.
I did not flash SKZ Kernel, I am just using the settings in Evervolv rom toolbox for performance.
And I am not getting many double/tripple keystrokes at all.
One thing I have noticed, and I am not sure if this is a rom thing or ??. I can not install .apk files from my Cloud storage using Astro File Manager. I get an error like 'No program associated' or something like that. Sorry, I am not near my TP right now to duplicate the error.
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RolandDeschain79 said:
Would you mind posting some benchmark results for F2FS, inquiring minds and all that thanks
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I'm also curious about F2FS :fingers-crossed: Even the android apks here for Kodi don't work? I see its missing from the playstore for CM11.
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I did a clean install and formatted F2FS and my TP seems a wee bit more useable with 7.1.2 Evervolv nightly. I am not using SKZ Kernel, just the recommended performance settings using Rom Toolbox.
I did see a youtube video re: installing Kodi Krypton V17.1 on 4.4.4 but I haven't checked it out as yet.
Hi guys, I seem to be having this issue too regardless of which version of android I use (and webOS too).
I've done fresh installs of ICS and 7.1.2 as well as webOS and all 3 are really chugging and I'm not sure why. I am seeing in android's "memory" area of settings that It is reading my touchpad as having 848 megs of ram instead of 1gb. Could that be the issue and if so, how did that happen?
Any ideas?
-chase
System reserves some ram
chaseincats said:
Hi guys, I seem to be having this issue too regardless of which version of android I use (and webOS too).
I've done fresh installs of ICS and 7.1.2 as well as webOS and all 3 are really chugging and I'm not sure why. I am seeing in android's "memory" area of settings that It is reading my touchpad as having 848 megs of ram instead of 1gb. Could that be the issue and if so, how did that happen?
Any ideas?
-chase
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Not to worry that's perfectly normal for the HP Touchpad. The system reserves some memory that you can't access.
Nougat can be laggy if you don't use the SKZ-OC kernel and the recommended settings here
Generally Kittkat is considered the best all around rom, try the setup below. No matter what rom you choose I recommend you OC the cpu to 1782mhz with the Kernel adiutor app. The HP TP is getting a little long in the tooth and needs all the extra performance it can get.
Download Android 4.4.4 Kitkat install files(Rom, Recovery, Gapps):
Rom:lineage-11-20170704-NIGHTLY-tenderloin
Recovery:TWRP-jcs-dm-tenderloin-20140612b.zip
Gapps:gapps-444-base-20160602-1-signed.zip
RolandDeschain79 said:
Not to worry that's perfectly normal for the HP Touchpad. The system reserves some memory that you can't access.
Nougat can be laggy if you don't use the SKZ-OC kernel and the recommended settings here
Generally Kittkat is considered the best all around rom, try the setup below. No matter what rom you choose I recommend you OC the cpu to 1782mhz with the Kernel adiutor app. The HP TP is getting a little long in the tooth and needs all the extra performance it can get.
Download Android 4.4.4 Kitkat install files(Rom, Recovery, Gapps):
Rom:lineage-11-20170704-NIGHTLY-tenderloin
Recovery:TWRP-jcs-dm-tenderloin-20140612b.zip
Gapps:gapps-444-base-20160602-1-signed.zip
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Thanks for your help, that made a HUGE difference. I then re-formatted the data & cache partitions from that link to F2FS and it is like a brand new device. My one problem is when I start it up I get this error saying:
"corrupted virtual USB device" - I am assuming that is because of f2fs right? Is there a way to fix this and stay on f2fs?
chaseincats said:
Thanks for your help, that made a HUGE difference. I then re-formatted the data & cache partitions from that link to F2FS and it is like a brand new device. My one problem is when I start it up I get this error saying:
"corrupted virtual USB device" - I am assuming that is because of f2fs right? Is there a way to fix this and stay on f2fs?
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Glad to help:highfive: I assume that's caused by the f2fs setup but I'm not using it and don't have a solution . Might want to checkout the Evervolv thread at Devs-base and see what people are saying about it and f2fs. Have fun with your revitalized HP Touchpad
F2FS?
Pardon me, but how did you convert to F2FS? Which link were you referring to?
Using the recovery mentioned above, I had no option to wipe/reformat data/cache to F2FS. Do I need to update to a different of recovery?
thanks,
chaseincats said:
Thanks for your help, that made a HUGE difference. I then re-formatted the data & cache partitions from that link to F2FS and it is like a brand new device. My one problem is when I start it up I get this error saying:
"corrupted virtual USB device" - I am assuming that is because of f2fs right? Is there a way to fix this and stay on f2fs?
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