Hey guys,
For some reason my Gear dies in half a day and I can't work out why. I'm using Skin's modded Tizen ROM but have been doing so for months and this has just started to happen.
- I have no apps installed;
- I don't have auto on when I raise my wrist, although I've tried it with this on and makes no difference;
- I've reset the phone to factory settings. It was actually fine during the day. Put it in my drawer over night, woke up 7 hours later and it had gone from 75% to dead!
- Reset it AGAIN and it's still muffed!;
- Uninstalled the Gear s/w and reinstalled to no avail.
I may be barking up the wrong tree here, but it seemed to coincide with the orange coloured version of the Gear manager. Does anyone have the apk for the previous version where it was all white with a colourful top border please? Or failing that, have any idea what the hell my watch thinks it's up to?
Thanks!
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Solution
1. Deleted the Gear software (and checked for any remainders in the file manager...although personally I found none);
2. Hard reset the watch, just in case;
3. Installed Gear Manager 2.1.14071502 (courtesy of Brendo);
4. Paired and got it all working well. This alone sorted the battery life which was nice.
5. I let the software update automatically; (obviously bypassing the dodgy version)!
6. Boom! It works fine with the latest app!
Did you try resetting watch? Check link in my sig for older versions of gm
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Did you try resetting watch? Check link in my sig for older versions of gm
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Yep I've also reset the watch on two occasions. Still dying within 9 hours Cheers for the apk's though, I'll see if that makes any difference. Otherwise I may have to ditch Skin's ROM and try the official - see if that helps.
I am getting almost the same thing over the last few days. My Gear Manager updated to a newer version and I have had the issue ever since. Idk what about updating that on my phone would have to do with the Gears battery life but I have changed a few settings on my notifications to see if that is going to help. I also keep getting "saproviders has stopped" CONSTANTLY. Was popping up every 3 seconds and I could not do anything with my phone. Finally got into Titanium and froze that app and I have had no more issues with that on my phone but I don't think that is cause my Gear to have poor battery life would it? I may have to go back to a older version of Gear Manager.
Similar thing for me with saproviders although it was happening because I had disabled Unified Daemon (EUR) process. Reenabled it and that went....although sometimes the UD(EUR) drains my phone battery and is really only used for weather updates.
As for the draining issue, I'm having a go with Gear Manager 2.1.14071502 and seeing if it makes any difference. So far it is, but I will report my findings back in 24hrs!
jonboyuk said:
Similar thing for me with saproviders although it was happening because I had disabled Unified Daemon (EUR) process. Reenabled it and that went....although sometimes the UD(EUR) drains my phone battery and is really only used for weather updates.
As for the draining issue, I'm having a go with Gear Manager 2.1.14071502 and seeing if it makes any difference. So far it is, but I will report my findings back in 24hrs!
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That is exactly the version I downloaded also. Gonna have to figure out how to get it to stop wanting to auto update to the newer versions. Just gonna set my settings and not go back to gear manager for awhile. See if it makes a difference for my Gears battery life before I go looking at anything else.
Okay that has fixed it, going back to Gear Manager 2.1.14071502! The watch has been on for 3.5 hours and is still at 100% rather than 55% as it was yesterday!!!
WTF Samsung?!?!
What the hell have they done with their latest Gear app? It must be causing some sort of wakelock on the watch itself.
Guess I'll wait for a month for newer releases.
jonboyuk said:
Okay that has fixed it, going back to Gear Manager 2.1.14071502! The watch has been on for 3.5 hours and is still at 100% rather than 55% as it was yesterday!!!
WTF Samsung?!?!
What the hell have they done with their latest Gear app? It must be causing some sort of wakelock on the watch itself.
Guess I'll wait for a month for newer releases.
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Good to know about the Gear Manager, I was gonna suggest a reset , but doing the reset via "recovery" , instead of selecting "download" like when using Odin, you select "recovery" and it resets also. I've done the reset that way in the past and it fixed my issues. I had looked all over the Tizen OS for battery stats with no luck. Maybe the Gear somehow stash's the stats or something on the phone instead...? Hmm, I'm gonna dig around in gear manager..
Chris
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Good to know about the Gear Manager, I was gonna suggest a reset , but doing the reset via "recovery" , instead of selecting "download" like when using Odin, you select "recovery" and it resets also. I've done the reset that way in the past and it fixed my issues. I had looked all over the Tizen OS for battery stats with no luck. Maybe the Gear somehow stash's the stats or something on the phone instead...? Hmm, I'm gonna dig around in gear manager..
Chris
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Yea have a look Chris. Actually I did reset via the GM first time, the second time I did it via the hardware...as in hold power, keep tapping it and reset that way. Both ways made little unfortunately.
My watch was still on 97% after 8 hours of none use over night so I'm pretty sure it's GM. However, now it wants to update and I literally cannot stop it If I say no, it exits the app, if I say yes the obvious happens. How can I block it?
Also, just for fun I've let it run the update. I know the first version of the 'orange GM' had issues and Samsung updated that immediately. I'm speculating over whether that first cocked up version brought over an issue into the latest one. Thereby if I go from an even older version to the latest, the issue may disappear... as always, I'll keep posting results.
after downgrading GM to previous version, my battery life also improved, after 9 hours of having it at work, taking some pics, sync to internet i had 70% left. gorgeous!
i will never ever press update again. each update only brings more bugs and no new functionality.
Well now I want to potentially throw a curve ball...although we'll see by tomorrow. After downgrading to 2.1.14071502 then upgrading to the latest my gear has been sat idle for 2 hours and sits at 100% battery life.
If this works, it means the previous version of the latest software created some kind of bug and carried itself through to the latest revision. So - this *may* have sorted it. I'll have to keep an eye on it for now but it's looking promising.
i did downgrade but it force app to upgrade or it will stop
Well I've never double posted before in my life! Not sure how that happened - apologies
Right it appears to be fixed (finally).
24 hours - 8% battery use - using the latest Gear software...GREAT!
Theory
The first version of the new batch of gear software had some weird bug causing a wakelock on the watch. Upgrading the app didn't remove it.
What I did
1. Deleted the Gear software (and checked for any remainders in the file manager...although personally I found none);
2. Hard reset the watch, just in case;
3. Installed Gear Manager 2.1.14071502 (courtesy of Brendo);
4. Paired and got it all working well. This alone sorted the battery life which was nice.
5. I let the software update automatically; (obviously bypassing the dodgy version)!
6. Boom! It works fine with the latest app!
All of that said, you may be able to skip steps 3-5 and directly install the latest version....but I tried that and for some reason I still has horrendous battery life.
I'm not sure why the steps above fixed it, but they did. So have a go if this is pi**ing you off as it may just work.
Cheers!
@jonboyuk I've done what you did ,didnt work , even downloaded latest version 2.2.14092299 from @Brendo but still keeps the going to 2.2.14090599 and saprovider FC , i did clean data saprovider and uninstall it worked , but after restarting gear and re-connect it back as it was even uninstalling saprovider wont help anymore.
so now its draining battery so quick. and media control not working.
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Yea have a look Chris. Actually I did reset via the GM first time, the second time I did it via the hardware...as in hold power, keep tapping it and reset that way. Both ways made little unfortunately.
My watch was still on 97% after 8 hours of none use over night so I'm pretty sure it's GM. However, now it wants to update and I literally cannot stop it If I say no, it exits the app, if I say yes the obvious happens. How can I block it?
Also, just for fun I've let it run the update. I know the first version of the 'orange GM' had issues and Samsung updated that immediately. I'm speculating over whether that first cocked up version brought over an issue into the latest one. Thereby if I go from an even older version to the latest, the issue may disappear... as always, I'll keep posting results.
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I ran the same previous version of GM you did. I got GREAT battery life with it. Completely fixed my problem. Now I do have that stubborn update that keeps popping. This is what I do. I click GM app. Update popup comes up and says Cancel or Update. I click the update and when the DL starts, I hit the home button on my GS4 to minimize the app and then i hold the Home button to clear all apps which shuts down the GM app and kills the update. Then I go back to GM app and it does not ask me to update any more. It stays away until I reboot the phone normally. Temp fix i guess but Ill look into it more and see if there is a way to completely stop it.
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@jonboyuk I've done what you did ,didnt work , even downloaded latest version 2.2.14092299 from @Brendo but still keeps the going to 2.2.14090599 and saprovider FC , i did clean data saprovider and uninstall it worked , but after restarting gear and re-connect it back as it was even uninstalling saprovider wont help anymore.
so now its draining battery so quick. and media control not working.
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I had this issue. I went into Titanium Backup and froze the SAProviders app. Stopped the popup because it was constantly popping up and was very annoying and could not use my phone at all. Frezzing the app solved the pop up but the bad battery life still stayed until i reverted back to a older version of the GM app like I said in the comment above this one. Still looking for a way to perm stop the update from popping up.
Downgrde to previous GM
jonboyuk said:
Hey guys,
For some reason my Gear dies in half a day and I can't work out why. I'm using Skin's modded Tizen ROM but have been doing so for months and this has just started to happen.
- I have no apps installed;
- I don't have auto on when I raise my wrist, although I've tried it with this on and makes no difference;
- I've reset the phone to factory settings. It was actually fine during the day. Put it in my drawer over night, woke up 7 hours later and it had gone from 75% to dead!
- Reset it AGAIN and it's still muffed!;
- Uninstalled the Gear s/w and reinstalled to no avail.
I may be barking up the wrong tree here, but it seemed to coincide with the orange coloured version of the Gear manager. Does anyone have the apk for the previous version where it was all white with a colourful top border please? Or failing that, have any idea what the hell my watch thinks it's up to?
Thanks!
EDIT
Solution
1. Deleted the Gear software (and checked for any remainders in the file manager...although personally I found none);
2. Hard reset the watch, just in case;
3. Installed Gear Manager 2.1.14071502 (courtesy of Brendo);
4. Paired and got it all working well. This alone sorted the battery life which was nice.
5. I let the software update automatically; (obviously bypassing the dodgy version)!
6. Boom! It works fine with the latest app!
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Every time I try to go back it re-installs 599. Even if I stop it by holding down the home button and close all apps. I re-open GM and it goes right back to downloading additional software. Has anyone figured a way around this? My watch is dead in 6 hours the way it is now so it's basically useless...
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Every time I try to go back it re-installs 599. Even if I stop it by holding down the home button and close all apps. I re-open GM and it goes right back to downloading additional software. Has anyone figured a way around this? My watch is dead in 6 hours the way it is now so it's basically useless...
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first you need to uninstall new Gear Manager, then disable Samsung Apps (Settings->Apps), and then install older GM, you choose. That helped me to disable auto GM update from Samsung, what was very nervous...
Guys, I removed with Titanium all the Gear stuff and installed the 14071502 version without a problem. Freezing SAProviders stopped the update notification from showing up. But my Gear still uses around 10%/hour of battery Anything else I can try?
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Daved+ said:
Guys, I removed with Titanium all the Gear stuff and installed the 14071502 version without a problem. Freezing SAProviders stopped the update notification from showing up. But my Gear still uses around 10%/hour of battery Anything else I can try?
Sent from my SM-N9005
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I have also installed the 2.1.14071502 version. To prevent forcing to upgrade to 2.2, I just disabled Wifi and 3G.. so, it only installs the software of this version. When I got paired, I go to Gear Manager Setup and uncheck the Automatic Update .. so, I only have that version. For goprovider FC, I installed the version from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2758364 (goprovider-signed-20140529.apk )
And that's all! I have a working goprovider, with 2.1 Manager.... BUT, this version doesn't allow the notification from any app! So, I don't get notifications from WhatsApp, FB, skype.. none! So, do you have another later version (not 2.2)? or any other way to get Whatsapp,etc notifications?
I've been running Lineage 13 for 6 months, but the phone mysteriously got into a boot loop yesterday, so I had clear the local data and re-install the apps from the Playstore
However I found that every time I installed the nRFToolbox app (by Nordic Semiconductors) (Who are a reputable company), that when the App installed, it crashed a load of internal OS services e.g. PlayServices and all sorts of Google services.
If I rebooted the phone it appeared to work OK, but if I went into the "Apps" in Settings, the phone hung again, and I had to reboot it.
I tried updating to the latest unofficial Lineage 13, but that didnt help, so I've now installed the official Lineage 14, and this seems to have solved the problem.
But I don't quite see how a single app can kill so many core services, and I prefer to stay on Android 6 (Lineage 13), because of XPosed and specifically XPrivacy.
(BTW. I know XPosed is now supposed to work on Android 7, but I didnt think XPrivacy will every get ported to work with the updated version of Xposed - at least according to the developer)
Does anyone have any insight into why this app can hang the phone
I don't know, why this APP makes your phone crash, but i had similar problems when installing greenifys latest app and two days ago, i updated some apps ending in bootloops.... I am using unofficial Lineage 13 with xposed and xprivacy too
I run stock OS but have this same issue when updating any big and heavy apps such as Snapchat, Google app and FB Messenger for the past 6 months at least. The app starts to update but then will crash in the installing phase often giving an error such as "503 can't be updated", at which point multiple Google services will crash endlessly the only way to stop the crash is hold down power to force the phone to reboot.
I have reset the phone several times but after setting up the phone and updating all the apps the first update to one of those apps the issue happens again (the app always installs from scratch ok it's only it's updates that cause it)
A sort of fix I have been using (because it doesn't 100% always work) is when you see an update for the app you know will cause the crash first update all the other apps manually leaving only the problem app, then close all apps go to Settings > Storage & USB > Internal storage and clear the Cached data, then power cycle the phone, let the phone boot and complete all it's background tasks it does after booting, then open Play Store and click Update on the offending app then put the phone down and leave it until the app either updates or causes the crashes. If this doesn't work then waiting 24 hours and doing the same steps seems to work.
I am certain it comes from either an app update (probably from Play services or the Play Store app) or maybe from having the phone encrypted which does make the phone run slower especially over time. (May or may not be related but I've noticed on my phone if I factory reset it then after setting it up and updating all the apps I try to encrypt the phone the phone will 'break' and will boot loop forcing a reset from the boot loader, however if I set up the phone, don't update any apps then encrypt it completes successfully, all the apps will then update ok and the phone then functions as you would expect)
All in all this issue is incredibly frustrating!
I am finding that my apps that send notifications, specifically that I send through LIghtflow, are either not notifying, or doing so 30 min. to an hour late.
I am also finding that installing as well as uninstalling apps are quite slow.
POwer saver is not on; battery optimization is not on for the offending apps; they are set to run in the background.
Anyone else experiencing this? Or any suggestions?
Regarding the slow downloads, I am finding the download finishes (according to the status bars, etc), but it then goes into a state of Install Pending. Can't find anything on that.
For anyone who cares, I have it resolved for the time being.
After 2 factory resets, I remembered back to the days i used to root my phones, and remembered that one strongly recommended task in that process was to delete cache.
So I did a final factory reset and deleted the cache also and all seems to be good.
When this crops up again I will try the cache delete w/o a factory reset and see how it goes.
Not getting much help here but I'll keep this thread upgraded.
It is again not working right. Lightroom is either not notifying or it's doing it 30 minutes late.
Play store downloads but then doesn't install for a period of time.
I'm beginning to think something is wrong with the phone.
This thing is driving me nuts. Following is what's going on, and have seen:
I've gone through 4 factory resets. All works find at first. Having decided that maybe there is an app interfering, I installed an app or two, tested, repeat...with delays between repeats. All seems fine.
But then late into the second day, w/o any installs, I goes haywire again. Symptoms are:
I use DGT GTD for my ToDo list. First thing I will notice is that when I add a new task, it will NOT show up in the widget list, and at the same time it stops notifications.
All apps stop sending notifications to Lightflow...or LIghtflow does not recognize the notifications. Not sure which is the case.
When add a new app on the Play Store, it downloads as quick as normal, but then it takes forever to install.
I installed AVAST, and checked for viruses. Came back clean.
I suspect it could be a phone problem. My Mate 9 works fine right now, with all the same apps. But, when a factory reset results in it working (at least during the short time a tech would evaluate), the phone can't be exchanged.
If anyone has any thoughts. I'm all ears. I'll keep posting, hopefully, ultimately, with a resolution. Maybe it'll help someone.
Just got my 9T Pro, everything seems to be fine, all working well and have received a couple of system updates since I received it. There is one strange thing with Netflix. If I go into PlayStore and check for updates it indicates that there is an update for Netflix but it's only 2.9 MB large. If I click on the update it seems to download something but nothing installs and it goes back to indicating there is a Netflix update. If I close out completely from PlayStore and go back in, the first time I check for updates it says there are none. If I refresh, then the 2.9MB update appears again. I've also done a delete and re-install but no effect, problem comes back.
The version of Netflix that is installed is Version 7.40.0 build 20 34657. In addition, it seems to work fine.
It's not a big deal, cause Netflix works but I've never seen this behaviour before.
Any ideas or thoughts?
The problem with NetFlix went away, all was fine for a few weeks and now I get a 77kb download for Instagram that never installs. Just keeps failing. Any ideas as to how to fix this? I've restarted but nothing.
It is a Play Store bug that causes to loop some apps' updates. Try cleaning app cache but it will go away after few weeks.
This might be the app itself but I didn't have any issue on my S20. Since I updated the phone it randomly cuts out. Any ideas? Never on WiFi though...
arknailed7754 said:
This might be the app itself but I didn't have any issue on my S20. Since I updated the phone it randomly cuts out. Any ideas? Never on WiFi though...
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Is it when the screen is off? Check it's not been put to sleep in battery settings
it seems that latest ROM updates (I think I have this on all AUB* ones) is weirdly strict on background activities and cuts every one of them. my whole device acts strangely - apps not showing notification or showing them late (hours later than they were supposed to show), my apps are not updating: I have to repeatedly FC play store, then clear its cache so that currently installing app changes state from downloading to installing, than do it again to change state fomr installing to installed etc. worked fine on AUA* ones. it is really annoying. btw I tried to clear cache and dalvik/art cache from recovery, but that did not help. I have not tried factory seset yet...
It seems that it was data corruption during regular OTA. Factory reset seems to fix problems for me.
I'll try a reset.. thankyou
Let's be honest, the Spotify app has issues too begin with. On my S21 and Pixel 4 it can be playing songs to my earbuds then suddenly stop running in the background on its own! Unlock the phone and itis still open in the foreground.
Perhaps it's time for a new music app if this is a known Spotify issue... But if it's not a Spotify issue, then check in your battery settings (as others have mentioned) to see if your phone automatically started putting it into "Sleep Mode".