Hi there, I recently purchased an t710 which I upgraded to 5.1.1. I'm wondering if there is any reason to wait rooting this device and tripping knox. I purchased an extended warranty for accidental etc from squaretrade so I'm not too worried.
What do you think? Also this is the first touch device I ever owned and I've never owned any smart devices other than a blackberry curve 8330. :victory: I am however quite savvy with computers in general. I've strayed from these devices due to high cost and high toss rate.
Couldn't hurt to throw in some app recommendations too! I sure would like to customize a bit more than samsung is allowing me to.
In addition to my original question, what's the best root and image available for my galaxy tab s2 t710 currently? I wasn't quite sure as there are a few. Does flashing one of the images wipe everything?
Also, as I understand it, many knox features have to be paid for with a regular subscription or something and the applications are not fantastic currently. Am I wrong?
Feel free to add anything you think I should know, also app recommendations would be great. Thanks!
Well, I took the plunge anyway, but I didn't do a backup with TWRP, everything is working but I forgot. Besides knox status, I'm assuming there's a way to undo this correct? like factory reset? Or did I screw it up (If I need to that is.)
wirelesskebab said:
Well, I took the plunge anyway, but I didn't do a backup with TWRP, everything is working but I forgot. Besides knox status, I'm assuming there's a way to undo this correct? like factory reset? Or did I screw it up (If I need to that is.)
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Knox status doesn't totally matter its more for secure environments like corporate or government to know that a device has been compromised.
Samsung and carriers often still warranty devices that have the Knox flag tripped.
To answer your question though, there is no way to undo a Knox flag.
Hey, I said besides knox status lol. I meant since I didn't backup in twrp before flashing root is there still a way to restore default firmware if necessary? Also how do I disable the securitylogger? People have mentioned it on the forums but I can't seem to find how to do that, thanks.
The only adverse effect I have noted so far was having to re-enter my wifi password.
Can anyone recommend a decent busybox? I installed this one https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=stericson.busybox&hl=en but is it the best one truly? The only other root program I have installed is AdAway. Actually, any decent app recommendations would be great, thanks!
wirelesskebab said:
Hey, I said besides knox status lol. I meant since I didn't backup in twrp before flashing root is there still a way to restore default firmware if necessary? Also how do I disable the securitylogger? People have mentioned it on the forums but I can't seem to find how to do that, thanks.
The only adverse effect I have noted so far was having to re-enter my wifi password.
Can anyone recommend a decent busybox? I installed this one https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=stericson.busybox&hl=en but is it the best one truly? The only other root program I have installed is AdAway. Actually, any decent app recommendations would be great, thanks!
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For what reason do you need to install busybox? Unless you have a real need for it why install it and cause more issues?
I can't think of a real single time I've ever needed busy box.
Xposed, Root explorer and Titanium backup are the 3 apps I use on every device I have.
auto rotate suddenly stopped working after I rebooted the tablet, I tried doing a factory reset but that hasn't fixed it, it won't go into landscape mode. Any ideas to fix this?
I just rebooted it through TWRP instead of inside the system and that fixed it, why the heck wouldn't a factory reset? anyone ever hear of this issue before?
A slap on the back has been known to fix it.
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Hello everyone sorry if I am posting this when there is an answer somewhere already on the forums. I have searched multiple times with no straight forward answer but that doesn't mean there isn't an answer that I overlooked.
I am new to the forum as well as Android. I recently purchased a Samsung Captivate through AT&T. I have been reading up on rooting the device and majorly concidering it to get the AT&T Bloatware off. Of the many, many, sites I have read on up I found One Click Root for Samsung Captivate through this forum, which hopefully will work properly, I do not see why it wouldn't.
This brings me to my first question, if I root my device, install Titanium Backup and uninstall the bloatware, can I then uninstall Titanium Backup and unroot my device? Or must I leave Titanium Backup installed for the "Backup" purposes?
My second question is if I root my device and uninstall bloatware ONLY, will I receive and be able to download OTA updates that become avaliable? ( I am aware I will lose root if installed, just currious as to if it will even let me update. )
My only reason for rooting is to get rid of the bloatware, I am hoping I can remove the bloatware and then unroot because I do not have any use for being rooted once they are removed.
I do not plan on flashing any custom ROM, I am leaving the stock ROM just removing the applications and touching nothing else. I know I have read that if I change from the ROM I will not be able to receive OTAUs...
Any thoughts on this?
Thanks in advance for the help. I am very good with computers and a certified ARES tech, know HTML. Just trying to grasp this whole Android thing comming from a iPhone (SO FAR SO GOOD) ... I don't think I'm too lost... yet.
If all you want to do is get rid of the bloatware, download LauncherPro and hide the icons. Much easier and the phone is much better with LP.
One Click Root works great. I've used it many times without issue.
I have used Titanium Backup to remove unwanted apps. Personally I leave it installed, and use to it to backup all of my apps, and save them to my External SD.
Personally I would leave the root in place, and also consider Sideloading it. It'll allow you to install "unapproved" apps.
I do not know how this might affect your ability to receive OTA. I think I remember hearing something around the time of the JH7 OTA release. I did some looking around and couldn't find it
Thanks for the help. I decided to put my worry aside as far as OTA updates go and go ahead and root the phone and remove bloatware.
I used one click root (which worked perfect) to root the device, downloaded Titanium Backup, and removed all the AT&T junk, and a couple things from Samsung I had no use for. Acually I kinda took my phones life in my own hands and uninstalled more than the lists I have found said to, but I figured if worst come to worst and it bricked I could just return it to Wal-Mart's AT&T kiosk since I was still on my thirty day guarantee. (No ma'am, I have NO IDEA what happened. )
Anyways the phone functioned fine so apparently I didn't do anything I shouldn't have. I only ran in to one problem and that was when I unrooted using the One Click (wanted to try it and see if it worked as good as the root) my phone came back on and was doing crazy stuff... locking out of nowhere, slow, didn't have the notification bar, nor any network connectivity after many reboots. Still in the same mindset that I could just make a trip to Wal-Mart, I did a factory reset. Phone came up and everything is perfect, bloatware is still gone and it took away my root apps which I was probubly going to end up doing anyways.
From what I finally found after a couple hours searching online is that theres a chance I won't be able to OTA update, however I shouldn't have a problem using Kies Mini to update instead of the OTA. Apparently AT&T's servers are getting overwelmed and people are having connection problems... even non rooted users.
We will see I guess when Froyo is (finally) released on AT&T.
Thanks again for the help!
I have a release date Chromecast sitting on my desk, never opened. but I dont have a OTG cable to root it. with all these new apps supporting Chromecast, is it still worth to buy a OTG cable to root it? thanks!
notmilk said:
I have a release date Chromecast sitting on my desk, never opened. but I dont have a OTG cable to root it. with all these new apps supporting Chromecast, is it still worth to buy a OTG cable to root it? thanks!
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I guess it depends what is out there and what you are trying to do. I live outside of the US and rooted mine so I can use a DNS server hack. Who knows, maybe there will be other incentives to do it so still probably a good idea. It is easy to go back to stock if you decide it is not worth it.
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I guess it depends what is out there and what you are trying to do. I live outside of the US and rooted mine so I can use a DNS server hack. Who knows, maybe there will be other incentives to do it so still probably a good idea. It is easy to go back to stock if you decide it is not worth it.
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You don't lose anything if you root but as far as I know there's no stock image or way back to stock but I could be wrong.
wptski said:
You don't lose anything if you root but as far as I know there's no stock image or way back to stock but I could be wrong.
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I think there is a flashcast mod that allows you to receive Google OTA, pretty much meaning that it will overwrite any mods and get you back to stock.
jasenko said:
I think there is a flashcast mod that allows you to receive Google OTA, pretty much meaning that it will overwrite any mods and get you back to stock.
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There is a switch to receive the Eureka ROM OTA automatically or not and another use the Eureka ROM or Google whitelist but nothing else.
wptski said:
There is a switch to receive the Eureka ROM OTA automatically or not and another use the Eureka ROM or Google whitelist but nothing else.
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Correct. Full-stock Google ROM is not posted because it's too easy to make an error - and that particular error would mean losing root with no (current) way to get it back.
tl;dr: Too much danger for people not reading and flashing the wrong one, losing root, then they would whine hard - it's almost as bad as bricking a phone.
In my opinion, any piece of hardware that you own, if you feel confident enough to do so, should be rooted / jailbroken / hacked / cracked open / etc.
Sure, there are a lot of sanctioned apps appearing now that the CC has been thrown wide open, but Google will always have their fingers in the mix. Who knows what some bright developer might stumble onto with a rooted device.
Hi, I've had my Note 5 since release day and I haven't done much to it since.
I want to do a fresh reinstall since there's a lot of crap on there after 2 years and it's pretty bloated. I've taken note of apps I have, settings, etc. Should there be anything else I do before a reinstall?
I'm also a bit interested in rooting for stuff like adblockers, backups, etc. I remember searching about it a year ago and rooting messed up something with Knox, is that still a problem?
I have the model SM-N920W8 with Android version 6.0.1. Would there be any further updates worth trying out?
Thanks for any help!
Make sure that you backup on your google account and samsung account.
Samsung account will also back up your S-notes and sketches.
I would also like to root, but the knox tripping issue and the fact that some apps (e.g. Barclays banking) won't work if they detect root, puts me off for this device.
A fresh install can definitely bring new life, but make sure you run package-disabler to de-bloat the phone.
good luck
So on my old phone i used to hide root using magisk and its got to the point now where i am sick of the cat and mouse games with banking apps. I Was wondering on my newer phone is it possible to root, install apps, apis and then unroot it but continue to use the apis ive installed to the partition and banking apps. Not too bothered about knox and the secure apps
LOL, it's KNOX that's stopping those banking apps working...
Once the e-fuse that protects the phone has been blown it's impossible to un-root.
Try to un-cook an egg.
Kmox is part of the security that tells the phone that the device has been compromised and hence no app that requires absolute system security will run... This generally will apply to banking apps but a few of Samsungs own apps won't run either.
Sorry...
thanks, i just thought banking apps check for root. i didnt think they used knox at all
I miss the good old time where we could root and go back to factory state before selling the phone
Had fun tweaking S2, Note3 and S6...
Now you'd loose money rooting if you're honest when selling
Ps2004 said:
I miss the good old time where we could root and go back to factory state before selling the phone
Had fun tweaking S2, Note3 and S6...
Now you'd loose money rooting if you're honest when selling
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So true, this is the last time i rooted, unrooted, rooted, unrooted, sold phones and havent done it since. it looks like i just will need to deal with it or somehow find a phone that has a vulnerability to allow root
I picked my old s6 and root again, hope the android auto all app hack works, phone will use my N9 hotspot
But I'd need a way to keep voicecall coming from N9 bluetooth and not plugged s6 running Android Auto
Hi all. I'm new to the site, so if I'm posting in the wrong forum, please let me know. I hope someone can help.
When I left my last company, they allowed me to take my Note 9 because it was paid in full. New management came in and set up Knox MDM. Because my device was paid for by them, they added my device to Knox and put it in Kiosk mode. I can no longer do anything on it but send/receive calls. I contacted Verizon, and they said even though i pay for the service, the device is technically still owned by the company and couldn't help me. So, i'm left with either buying a new phone or asking new management to remove me from knox. They will not, so I was hoping someone knew how to remove knox, possibly through rooting the phone. However, I can't enable developer mode. When I click on the build number, i get a message saying the feature is disabled by knox.
this is just a suggestion, I'm not saying to follow it. wait for someone else to confirm it's an OK idea or a terrible one.
using a PC or even another rooted phone you could run ADB and remove Knox packages. pretty sure you can do this successfully on newer phones but with Knox ''activated'' and doing stuff I'm not sure.
3mel said:
this is just a suggestion, I'm not saying to follow it. wait for someone else to confirm it's an OK idea or a terrible one.
using a PC or even another rooted phone you could run ADB and remove Knox packages. pretty sure you can do this successfully on newer phones but with Knox ''activated'' and doing stuff I'm not sure.
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Thanks for the advice. I'm good with that route, and I'm good with wiping the phone to root it. I installed ADB on my laptop and connected the phone, but it when I run adb devices, nothing is returned. I assumed it was because the phone wasn't in developer or usb debugging mode. So, I was hoping there was a way to do it without needed access to settings.
oh crap yeah, I forgot you did say that. curious do you still work for this company ?
either try doing ADB thru the recovery (never tried it, know nothing about it but it's a thing) or give a factory reset a try. the reset should at the very least kill off the companies settings though I'm not sure how much use that'll be.
flashing appropriate firmware with Odin should work for you too.
3mel said:
oh crap yeah, I forgot you did say that. curious do you still work for this company ?
either try doing ADB thru the recovery (never tried it, know nothing about it but it's a thing) or give a factory reset a try. the reset should at the very least kill off the companies settings though I'm not sure how much use that'll be.
flashing appropriate firmware with Odin should work for you too.
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Thanks 3mel. I'll give those things a whirl. I'm not employed with them anymore, which is why going to new management isn't an option. A friend of mine still works there and they told me that management asked verizon for the device id's for the last 5 years and just put them all on knox. For them, $1/mo for a devices no longer in use by them outweighed the potential of missing devices in the wild.
rainana said:
Thanks 3mel. I'll give those things a whirl. I'm not employed with them anymore, which is why going to new management isn't an option. A friend of mine still works there and they told me that management asked verizon for the device id's for the last 5 years and just put them all on knox. For them, $1/mo for a devices no longer in use by them outweighed the potential of missing devices in the wild.
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Hello dear friend, I have the same problem, did you find any solve for this issue? I will be happy if u will share the method)
Hello,
I have a similar case.
without debug mode, adb devices doesn't list any devices.
there is really no way to flash a custom ROM on this phone, without log into the old google account?