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Today, I had a chance to test for awhile new Nexus 4 phone. It was demo version in Carphone Warehouse.
I have been told, they selling only this phone with a contract, so I haven't asked more as we know Google is selling it with "no strings attached".
First impression was really good, nice phone, big enough but not so big, light weighted.
Screen is very responsive, considering it has still protective film on in. I had no chance to test WiFi as well as 3G connections, as this phone has no simcard. During the test once appears one white artefact on the bottom of the screen and suddenly disappear once I touched the screen.
I hope some of photos tell more than I wrote.
I would like to thank for people from Carephone Warehouse in Croydon, where I was able to test this phone.
Your test was all wrong, you are meant to come back and tell us every little fault with the phone and moan about how terrible a company Google are. Tell us to never ever get this phone and go on for 3 pages about the lack of LTE (even tho useless in UK) and micro SD card :laugh:
@roughavoc why shall I moan about this? I'm considering to buy this phone, but as we know it's not available right now. Yesterday, sale was started and finished immediately. Lack of LTE? That's true - but as Three network user, I will not need LTE for year or even longer.
There's no micrSD card... but it's microSIM... how wonderfull
Seriously, there's no reason to be disappointed, besides the first impression was really good - considering the price of this device.
He was being sarcastic
If a 'first mini test' means picking up a display handset in store, then god help us.
nasedo73 said:
@roughavoc why shall I moan about this? I'm considering to buy this phone, but as we know it's not available right now. Yesterday, sale was started and finished immediately. Lack of LTE? That's true - but as Three network user, I will not need LTE for year or even longer.
There's no micrSD card... but it's microSIM... how wonderfull
Seriously, there's no reason to be disappointed, besides the first impression was really good - considering the price of this device.
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He was being sarcastic
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I have never bought an unlocked phone before, but then again I had never anticipated phones prices becoming so expensive, so I prefer to get the best bang-for-my-buck. Is there a significant performance difference between SnapDragon and Exynos? From some quick research I did, it seems that SnapDragon is slightly better than Exynos in gaming due to its GPU, and Exynos gets better battery performance and a slightly smoother experience all while being an unlocked phone? If it is too much of a hassle to get the Deep sea Blue Exynos Note 8 imported and if there isn't much of a difference I can settle for the SnapDragon one.
I have looked online but find can't any places besides Amazon where I feel safe dishing out $1300 CAD and know its going to be just as good as if I bought it from Samsung (unfortunately amazon doesn't seem to have the blue colour). I get that technically they are a 3rd party seller but their customer service and return policy is so good that it's fine; especially because internationally imported phones seem to have no warranty. I thought about eBay at first, but honestly that's a crap-shoot. Only other possibility was NCIX but I despise them.
would subscribing to a VPN and then loading up the Samsung website in region that has Exynos work?
What makes you think that eBay is a "crap shoot"? Many of us got ours that way.
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What makes you think that eBay is a "crap shoot"? Many of us got ours that way.
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Because I have gotten scammed before and getting your money back is a hassle. Not worth the trouble. Anyway you think it's worth to get the Exynos ?
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Because I have gotten scammed before and getting your money back is a hassle. Not worth the trouble. Anyway you think it's worth to get the Exynos ?
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I think the 256gb and Exynos are worth it. If it was only the cpu I might need to think twice.
I bought mine about 3 weeks ago on ebay.It took 2 weeks to get here from the seller.Despite the seller being a U.S. seller. But in all its glory and beauty I got my 256gb deep blue sea brand new in box I was very happy.
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I found one one and I'm tempted to pull the trigger but the more I think on the the more I'm hesitant. Not having warranty on a $1300CAD device is a little disappointing. You guys thinks it's worth?
Got mine on eBay worth it 100%
Yep do it !! Just get a nice case and your golden.
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Alright, you guys talked me into it. Just three quick questions. Are these two websites reputable? https://www.clove.co.uk/ https://www.omegacell.com/ and are the phones new? As in they won't send me old one someone sent back and call it "new" when shipping it to me.
Also it will work on Freedom Mobile, right? I did my research and it seems to work, but just wanted to double check with you more knowledgeable folks here.
Edit: would Bixby also work?
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I found one one and I'm tempted to pull the trigger but the more I think on the the more I'm hesitant. Not having warranty on a $1300CAD device is a little disappointing. You guys thinks it's worth?
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This is definitely a valid concern. My N950N had the lower usb/mic/speaker/antenna circuit board stop working properly after about a week and apparently quite a few of us have run into issues with that same component. The rest of the phone works perfectly, and the boards are $5 to $10 US once they're available so I'm not very concerned but it is a bit frustrating to pay over $1300 and have something break in the first week, when all the US model phones I've had never had a single issue that wasn't entirely my fault.
i can't find any deepbluesea one's on ebay
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This is definitely a valid concern. My N950N had the lower usb/mic/speaker/antenna circuit board stop working properly after about a week and apparently quite a few of us have run into issues with that same component. The rest of the phone works perfectly, and the boards are $5 to $10 US once they're available so I'm not very concerned but it is a bit frustrating to pay over $1300 and have something break in the first week, when all the US model phones I've had never had a single issue that wasn't entirely my fault.
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Damn that sucks. There is no way to ship it back to the seller and have them send it in for a fix, no? You just kind of burst my bubble. But I think I'm still going to pull the trigger. I'll wait 1-2 more days before I drop that much money. But if all I'm losing is WiFi-calling and VoLTE, It's a go from me. If I lose Bixby too, then I guess SD it is.
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Damn that sucks. There is no way to ship it back to the seller and have them send it in for a fix, no? You just kind of burst my bubble. But I think I'm still going to pull the trigger. I'll wait 1-2 more days before I drop that much money. But if all I'm losing is WiFi-calling and VoLTE, It's a go from me. If I lose Bixby too, then I guess SD it is.
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I might have been able to ship it over there but TWRP + root = Knox 0x1 so they wouldn't warranty repair it anyway, nevermind the down time of being without it for who knows how long with shipping both ways and repair time.
You'll lose wifi calling and VoLTE unless you flash your carrier's CSC and make sure they have those features enabled for the new phone. Bixby still works.
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I might have been able to ship it over there but TWRP + root = Knox 0x1 so they wouldn't warranty repair it anyway, nevermind the down time of being without it for who knows how long with shipping both ways and repair time.
You'll lose wifi calling and VoLTE unless you flash your carrier's CSC and make sure they have those features enabled for the new phone. Bixby still works.
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I see, I see. Guess the warranty part wouldn't apply to you regardless since you instantly rooted it, lol. VoLTE is okay, but doesn't impact me in anyway. Just seems like better connection/quality. WiFi-calling just seems like more of the same and kind of useless to me personally. Unless I don't understand what it does. But in this day and age we have good enough call quality and pretty much unlimited calling that I don't get the big deal. But to each their own.
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I see, I see. Guess the warranty part wouldn't apply to you regardless since you instantly rooted it, lol. VoLTE is okay, but doesn't impact me in anyway. Just seems like better connection/quality. WiFi-calling just seems like more of the same and kind of useless to me personally. Unless I don't understand what it does. But in this day and age we have good enough call quality and pretty much unlimited calling that I don't get the big deal. But to each their own.
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VoLTE and Wifi calling are basically the same thing, just that one runs on your LTE connection and one runs over your wifi-to-internet connection. They should in theory provide better voice calls than standard 3g can handle. Wifi calling is also great if you can use it overseas - every time I go to Asia I keep my T-Mobile SIM card around and make calls to home people for free because it's going over the internet instead of through the phone system.
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VoLTE and Wifi calling are basically the same thing, just that one runs on your LTE connection and one runs over your wifi-to-internet connection. They should in theory provide better voice calls than standard 3g can handle. Wifi calling is also great if you can use it overseas - every time I go to Asia I keep my T-Mobile SIM card around and make calls to home people for free because it's going over the internet instead of through the phone system.
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Thanks for all your help, I really appreciate it. You have been amazing! After much deliberation with myself, I went ahead and bought the SD version. Due to the fact that I'm an extremely picky person when I am spending this much money on a product. I need to be 100% sure the product I received had in no way been opened and used, and I'm fairly certain that they power-up the product to see if it's DOA; this irks me. Also the fact that I don't have warranty was too much of a loss for me. If I get the phone and if it ends up breaking or having screen bleeding I can exchange it no problem. I would rather sacrifice a little bit of performance and [email protected] video over peace of mind in the product i'm getting. Plus I managed to get $700 off the phone due to calling my carrier and complaining about the troubles I have with my current phone.
Also thank you for the information about the differences betwen VoLTE and WiFi-calling
Wish you the best. Cheers mate.
I live in the US and the phone works - but it's a Snapdragon, not an Exynos ( so ... better?) and I'm not really sure what to think now that I see the hardware model of it.
The only noticeable differences I could find are that handwriting defaulted to Chinese and the Chinese calendar seems burned into the Samsung Calendar app.
Anything I should look out for? Should I pursue a return through Amazon?
Samsung pay?
Try hard reset then immediately sideloading Samsung Pay 2.7.03 (apk from apkmirror) and Framework 2.7.51 see if spay will work.
If you have problems with language options in general, you can factory reset and set up your languages defaults from the very beginning (on the very first page, you will have a language selector, possibly showing Korean as a default choice, type the Korean writing and choose your favorite localization; this happens on any model by Samsung). This is highly recommended if you do not trust the vendor.
As far as I can tell, the main limitation of N9500 is localization of hardware-secured features: if you plan to use the (awesome) Samsung Pay, apparently you can do so only in Hong Kong so far (with N9500). As I understand, Samsung uses/experiments a more advanced system in Hong Kong, which you will not be able to use elsewhere. I have a N9500 and I want to try to spoof the model number in build.prop to see if one can cheat the phone to have Samsung Pay work everywhere.
Snapdragon vs Exynos is a mixed bag, depending on your workload. Exynos performs slightly better, Snapdragon will offer a faster web experience. In my opinion, no noticeable difference at all. However if you:
-Have a 64GB model
-Have a write heavy workload (quite rare, for instance you do some video-editing on phone or backup GB of data TO the phone every day)
exynos will perform noticeably better in these tasks since Samsung uses different NAND on the two models. For reading workload, again the difference is not noticeable.
Also, my guess is that you got N9500 for a better price: these are usually imported models from Hong Kong or UAE, with no official support. Importers likely got a much better price than the local Samsung offer, or maybe they avoided some import taxes via shady practices. If you paid the same as the official listing in your country, you may want to ask for a replacement regardless of the hardware.
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Just to clear out, in the message before I meant that both the conditions (64GB AND write heavy) need to be satisfied to have an Exynos preference.
I haven't run into any actual problems yet (4 hours of use?) and I'm trying to avoid any modifications while I decide how to handle this... The whole thing seems shady, there's a promotional coupon stuck over the model number on the box. I feel like it was done intentionally for some reason.
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I haven't run into any actual problems yet (4 hours of use?) and I'm trying to avoid any modifications while I decide how to handle this... The whole thing seems shady, there's a promotional coupon stuck over the model number on the box. I feel like it was done intentionally for some reason.
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Well if you were sold a model different than the listing description and you are worried/not happy about it, get your money back and make sure you don't lose even a penny (teaching seller a lesson in the process since a lot of this purposeful shadiness seems to be happening even when seller knows).
Don't be upset. You might have gotten the only Snapdragon variant with an unlockable bootloader out the box. If you don't mind double checking this, go to developer options and see if there's an OEM unlocking toggle. Then download Crom and run it, it should unlock your bootloader.
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Don't be upset. You might have gotten the only Snapdragon variant with an unlockable bootloader out the box. If you don't mind double checking this, go to developer options and see if there's an OEM unlocking toggle. Then download Crom and run it, it should unlock your bootloader.
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Unfortunately, no such luck.
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Unfortunately, no such luck.
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Really? Damn, Samsung is seriously tightening things up, the HK and CN variants used to the only Snadragon models that came with an official bootloader unlock tool/method.
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Really? Damn, Samsung is really tightening things up, the HK and CN variants used to the only Samsung models that came with an official bootloader unlock tool/method.
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Didn't people have to wait exactly a week after activation for that option to show up or something like that?
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Didn't people have to wait exactly a week after activation for that option to show up or something like that?
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I don’t recall anything of the sort, but don’t hold that against me. My last Samsung device prior to the Note 8 was the S6 (which I despised). The S5 was Samsung’s last great and true user/developer/mod friendly device. Even though the design got a lot of hate, I quite liked it. It went to eight different countries with me, and never gave me grief even though I used it as an underwater camera countless times.
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I don’t recall anything of the sort, but don’t hold that against me. My last Samsung device prior to the Note 8 was the S6 (which I despised). The S5 was Samsung’s last great and true user/developer/mod friendly device. Even though the design got a lot of hate, I quite liked it. It went to eight different countries with me, and never gave me grief even though I used it as an underwater camera countless times.
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Yep double checked and there is a 1 week wait post activation for OEM UNLOCK option to appear.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...-8-exynos-n950f-fd-oem-unlock-t3673140/page64
Not sure if applies to qualcomm variants too. Doesnt HK/CN by law require OEM UNLOCK? Read something along this line somewhere here.
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Yep double checked and there is a 1 week wait post activation for OEM UNLOCK option to appear.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...-8-exynos-n950f-fd-oem-unlock-t3673140/page64
Not sure if applies to qualcomm variants too. Doesnt HK/CN by law require OEM UNLOCK? Read something along this line somewhere here.
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Hey! That’s amazing news for OP. I believe HK/CN does require that by law. I remember when the S7 was released there, it looked so sleek without the Samsung logos.
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Hey! That’s amazing news for OP. I believe HK/CN does require that by law. I remember when the S7 was released there, it looked so sleek without the Samsung logos.
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Yep it would be if it applies to Qualcomm variants and if it does it may only apply to HK/CN variants.
Maybe someone that has already had this model for 7+ days can confirm it for him.
The company I purchased it from refuses to advance-replace this with the phone I ordered and seems to expect me to pay to ship it back to them. This is probably going to turn into a dispute with Amazon, so I'm out another $900+ as I have to get into a new phone ASAP, and leave this one with zero wear.
I'm pretty convinced that I want the N950FD/S Aus, Europe & Lat edition of this phone despite living in the U.S. I don't want to suffer heavily locked bootloaders even for a Snapdragon and it seems there is more development for Exynos.
Please, though, tell me I'm wrong and that I should keep this phone that I dumped hours into configuring before catching on to the damn Chinese calendar embedded in the Samsung Calendar app :|
Damn yeah I would return it and get the exynos model you want oem unlock for sure ! I love my deep sea blue 256gb N950N its a work horse things were a pain at first but most the issues have been sorted out and its the best 1200$ i spent.
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The company I purchased it from refuses to advance-replace this with the phone I ordered and seems to expect me to pay to ship it back to them. This is probably going to turn into a dispute with Amazon, so I'm out another $900+ as I have to get into a new phone ASAP, and leave this one with zero wear.
I'm pretty convinced that I want the N950FD/S Aus, Europe & Lat edition of this phone despite living in the U.S. I don't want to suffer heavily locked bootloaders even for a Snapdragon and it seems there is more development for Exynos.
Please, though, tell me I'm wrong and that I should keep this phone that I dumped hours into configuring before catching on to the damn Chinese calendar embedded in the Samsung Calendar app :|
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If I were you, I would keep it. I’m 92% sure TWRP will pop-up for your device in the upcoming weeks. I don’t know if Samsung has released the kernel source yet, but once they do, I’ll be more than happy to compile it for you. I remember the same thing happened with the HK/CN variant of the S7. Holding out a week to see if OEM Unlocking shows up will be worth if it does.
Dont want to start a new thread so hopefully someone can help on here.
I ordered a N950fd but have received a N9500. It's currently sat in dubai waiting for a friend to bring back to UK.
Should i stick with it or get the N950FD instead? I would like to use Samsung pay but it's not a deal breaker as dont use it that much now anyway. Is there anything else i should be worried about?
thanks
So you ordered the Big Mac and got a Cheeseburger...
If you were at Macca's would you complain and want the right order? I know I would...
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So you ordered the Big Mac and got a Cheeseburger...
If you were at Macca's would you complain and want the right order? I know I would...
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Lol do you really think there's that much difference?
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Lol do you really think there's that much difference?
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Yes.....
Not only is there a difference, but I want what I ordered...
Hi guys
The preorder is up early morning itself. Place my pre-order for S21 Ultra Phantom Navy (Custom Color) from Samsung Online. Noticed the special note that it will take 3-4 weeks for getting it ready. I hope they deliver sooner than 3-4 weeks.
Whats your choice guys? Model-Color etc.
Thanks.
Anyone from Australia got their phone yet?
Ordered mine on the 21st and in my hand on the 25th January (Vodafone).
Upgraded from an S9+ and very happy (so far).
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Ordered mine on the 21st and in my hand on the 25th January (Vodafone).
Upgraded from an S9+ and very happy (so far).
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How is it? It says Dual SIM on the website. Is it Dual Physical SIM or SIM + eSIM?
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How is it? It says Dual SIM on the website. Is it Dual Physical SIM or SIM + eSIM?
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My Phantom Silver 512GB model is single SIM. Was given an option to use eSIM but stayed with the physical SIM I had in my S9+.
Coming from the S9+ it's taken a while to retrain my brain to use the in-screen fingerprint scanner.
Other than that; the only annoying bug is the occasional switching back to the One UI 3.1 launcher (from Nova Prime).
Other than that, I'm very happy so far. I do miss having the option to use sdcard expansion. Transferred 3,500 odd photos and 5,000 odd MP3s from the S9 to the S21 and still have 75% free.
I tend to take far more still images than video so the physical storage limitation shouldn't cause me any issues but time will tell.
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My Phantom Silver 512GB model is single SIM. Was given an option to use eSIM but stayed with the physical SIM I had in my S9+.
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Thanks for clarifying
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Coming from the S9+ it's taken a while to retrain my brain to use the in-screen fingerprint scanner.
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You will be ok within a week.
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Other than that, I'm very happy so far. I do miss having the option to use sdcard expansion. Transferred 3,500 odd photos and 5,000 odd MP3s from the S9 to the S21 and still have 75% free.
I tend to take far more still images than video so the physical storage limitation shouldn't cause me any issues but time will tell.
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Never been a problem. Always in cloud. I stopped using MP3s long time ago.
Got update that my Phantom Navy Ultra is shipped. Should be getting tomorrow
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My Phantom Silver 512GB model is single SIM. Was given an option to use eSIM but stayed with the physical SIM I had in my S9+.
Coming from the S9+ it's taken a while to retrain my brain to use the in-screen fingerprint scanner.
Other than that; the only annoying bug is the occasional switching back to the One UI 3.1 launcher (from Nova Prime).
Other than that, I'm very happy so far. I do miss having the option to use sdcard expansion. Transferred 3,500 odd photos and 5,000 odd MP3s from the S9 to the S21 and still have 75% free.
I tend to take far more still images than video so the physical storage limitation shouldn't cause me any issues but time will tell.
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I'm moving from Exynos S9+ too. How's battery life and general camera quality for you in comparison?
Got my phone today morning. All setup done. Loving the camera details...
Curious to know if any other aussies have received the Feb update ? I'm still stuck on jan1....
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Curious to know if any other aussies have received the Feb update ? I'm still stuck on jan1....
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No update yet. Based on my experience, Australia is the last country to get any update from Samsung
Finally for the Feb update .....HUZZAH
Got it last night.
Meanwhile, March has started rolling out in some countries.
I've been refreshing Sammobile and Frija the last couple of days hoping that they'll push it out. Nothing yet
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Finally for the Feb update .....HUZZAH
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Interestingly! I posted a rant on Samsung Australia Twitter account that morning
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rant on Samsung Australia Twitter account
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Why? I still find it really baffling that people blame Samsung for the delays. It's the carriers that hold the updates until they've completed testing. It's been that way for as long as there have been galaxy phones. Ranting makes 0 difference, if you want to make a change, don't buy the product, hit Samsung where it actually hurts so they can push carriers to fall in line to an update cycle like apple.
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Why? I still find it really baffling that people blame Samsung for the delays. It's the carriers that hold the updates until they've completed testing. It's been that way for as long as there have been galaxy phones. Ranting makes 0 difference, if you want to make a change, don't buy the product, hit Samsung where it actually hurts so they can push carriers to fall in line to an update cycle like apple.
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Not everyone buys from carrier. I have Tab S7+ LTE & S21 Ultra bought outright from Samsung online. I don't buy from carriers for the reason you explained above. Samsung completely ignores centain countries in their release cycle.
I want to mention that, both Tab and Mobile got update on the same day after the morning rant. Could be coincidence but I posted my thought to them.
Why I have switch when I am completely ok with Android phones? If I switch, I am one in millions. For Samsung, its nothing. Because I bought Samsung, I didn't sell my soul to them and why I to be quite. If Apple can do it, Google can do it, Samsung can also do it.
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Not everyone buys from carrier. I have Tab S7+ LTE & S21 Ultra bought outright from Samsung online. I don't buy from carriers for the reason you explained above. Samsung completely ignores centain countries in their release cycle.
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You don't understand how it works in Australia then. Regardless of where you bought your phone (samsung, voda, telstra, optus) the carriers test the firmware before it's released <== process takes weeks.
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Could be coincidence but I posted my thought to them.
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100% coincidence. 100% those types of comments (your rant) have no impact on their process
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If Apple can do it, Google can do it, Samsung can also do it.
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Exactly. But Samsung has no vested interest in doing it when it doesn't impact them selling phones. You just said it, it doesn't stop you from buying the phone, despite you knowing that Australia releases later in the month. If people want a company to change, the most effective way is through $$$ <== don't buy their products so they know things need to change.
I'll also flag that Australia DOES get regular updates out in a timely manner i.e. it's the generally the same time each month. The issue for 'techie' people is that they know it's released in other parts of the world weeks earlier, then get annoyed about it.
If you're bothered by it, use Frija and Odin to flash the latest update manually, it's an easy process and ensures you're on the latest firmware.
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You don't understand how it works in Australia then. Regardless of where you bought your phone (samsung, voda, telstra, optus) the carriers test the firmware before it's released <== process takes weeks.
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Actually you don't understand how it works. All your theory is only true for carrier customised and sold phones. Rest has no relationship. If you look at CSC of unlocked Australia, it different than what sold by Telstra, Optus, etc. Please do some research before you talk about it.
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All your theory is only true for carrier customised and sold phones
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Nope. None of the builds are even touched anymore since multi-csc came into play. But Aussie carriers (as in the wholesalers of the networks not the badge/csc of phone) won't allow the firmware to be pushed until they've ALL tested it. That INCLUDES XSA.
EDIT: changed wording to clarify badge/csc not brand of phone
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Please do some research before you talk about it.
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It's pretty amusing how wrong you are, but given how defensive you're getting, I'll drop it. If you think your ranting and annoyance has any impact, go for it - you keep fighting the fight.
I've seen a bunch of people having success with rooting the Tab S8U using Tab S7+ root guides. I've asked some of these people if rooting the Tab S8+ using the Tab S7+ guides would garner success, and most people are saying that it would. However, I'm not sure if anyone has tried flashing TWRP made for the Tab S7+ on the Tab S8+ or Tab S8U.
Has anyone attempted to do this? Are there compatibility issues you have to deal with? Does it just not work all, making backups with TWRP on the Tab S8 line isn't possible yet, and we only have root for now? Any advice or input would be greatly appreciated!
Fair question, but I wouldn't ever flash anything that's not made specifically for the device. Hopefully, someone else would have a more specific answer.
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Fair question, but I wouldn't ever flash anything that's not made specifically for the device. Hopefully, someone else would have a more specific answer.
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Well, I've managed to find some firmware for the SM-X800 XAR. So, when my S8+ comes, I'll try and see if rooting it the Tab S7+ way, vbmeta_disabled image and samsung multidisabler zip and all, will bare any sort of positive result. If not, thank god I have some firmware to flash, lol.
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Well, I've managed to find some firmware for the SM-X800 XAR. So, when my S8+ comes, I'll try and see if rooting it the Tab S7+ way, vbmeta_disabled image and samsung multidisabler zip and all, will bare any sort of positive result. If not, thank god I have some firmware to flash, lol.
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You mean SM-X900, correct? I just want to make sure you got the correct firmware.
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You mean SM-X900, correct? I just want to make sure you got the correct firmware.
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Isn't the Tab S8+ X800 and the S8U is X900? I'm not planning on trying this on an S8U.
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Isn't the Tab S8+ X800 and the S8U is X900? I'm not planning on trying this on an S8U.
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My mistake, thank you. I need more coffee!
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My mistake, thank you. I need more coffee!
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Haha no worries. When the Tab S8+ comes, I'll try this out, and post the results (if any).
SavXL said:
I've seen a bunch of people having success with rooting the Tab S8U using Tab S7+ root guides. I've asked some of these people if rooting the Tab S8+ using the Tab S7+ guides would garner success, and most people are saying that it would. However, I'm not sure if anyone has tried flashing TWRP made for the Tab S7+ on the Tab S8+ or Tab S8U.
Has anyone attempted to do this? Are there compatibility issues you have to deal with? Does it just not work all, making backups with TWRP on the Tab S8 line isn't possible yet, and we only have root for now? Any advice or input would be greatly appreciated!
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Flashing the TWRP of another device, on a different device, is probably one of the stupidest things one could try. Unless, of course, they just want to see if it would work and are willing to risk a softbrick. And just in case you're wondering, a softbrick is the most probable result of such an attempt, I've never seen this kind of thing succeed, either by my own tests or the reports of others.
It's always best to use a TWRP that is designed specifically for the device you plan to use it on.
Disclaimer: I own a Tab S7+, but not any of the Tab S8 variants. I just noticed you had posted in the Tab S7(+) subforums, and I responded a few times.
So, which tab did you choose to buy? Or have you not decided yet? I know you mentioned something about eBay, I just kind of assumed you bought something from there.
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Disclaimer: I own a Tab S7+, but not any of the Tab S8 variants. I just noticed you had posted in the Tab S7(+) subforums, and I responded a few times.
So, which tab did you choose to buy?
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SavXL said:
Haha no worries. When the Tab S8+ comes, I'll try this out, and post the results (if any).
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AnonVendetta said:
Flashing the TWRP of another device, on a different device, is probably one of the stupidest things one could try. Unless, of course, they just want to see if it would work and are willing to risk a softbrick. And just in case you're wondering, a softbrick is the most probable result of such an attempt, I've never seen this kind of thing succeed, either by my own tests or the reports of others.
It's always best to use a TWRP that is designed specifically for the device you plan to use it on.
Disclaimer: I own a Tab S7+, but not any of the Tab S8 variants. I just noticed you had posted in the Tab S7(+) subforums, and I responded a few times.
So, which tab did you choose to buy? Or have you not decided yet? I know you mentioned something about eBay, I just kind of assumed you bought something from there.
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I did end up getting an S7+ but I'm going to be selling the one I have for a new S8+. The better CPU, GPU, and cameras turned out to be something I needed for the things I'm trying to do with it.
SavXL said:
I did end up getting an S7+ but I'm going to be selling the one I have for a new S8+. The better CPU, GPU, and cameras turned out to be something I needed for the things I'm trying to do with it.
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I'm happy with my Tab S7+, plenty powerful for what I do. My only gripe is that the 512GB storage/8GB RAM variants can't also have a 5G slot. Mine is the WiFi only model. That alone isn't enough to make me want to upgrade, though.
As much as I like the Tab S8 specs, it appears that the screen is nearly 15". That's almost laptop-sized. A bit too big and bulky for a tablet if you ask me. I wouldn't automatically not buy it just because of that, but anything larger than 15" is kind of a no-go. At that point I might as well carry a laptop with me.
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I'm happy with my Tab S7+, plenty powerful for what I do. My only gripe is that the 512GB storage/8GB RAM variants can't also have a 5G slot. Mine is the WiFi only model. That alone isn't enough to make me want to upgrade, though.
As much as I like the Tab S8 specs, it appears that the screen is nearly 15". That's almost laptop-sized. A bit too big and bulky for a tablet if you ask me. I wouldn't automatically not buy it just because of that, but anything larger than 15" is kind of a no-go. At that point I might as well carry a laptop with me.
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Nah I'm not getting the Ultra for that very reason. It's a little too big and heavy for my needs. Not to mention that I really don't need 16GB of ram for what I need to do nowadays. The CPU and GPU is more than enough.
Edit: The S8+'s better CPU and GPU is more than enough.
Update: Won the bid for a brand new Tab S8+ with the slim keyboard cover for less than MSRP. It should be coming around April 2nd. Will keep y'all posted.
SavXL said:
Update: Won the bid for a brand new Tab S8+ with the slim keyboard cover for less than MSRP. It should be coming around April 2nd. Will keep y'all posted.
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How much, compared to normal retail pricing? I wouldn't expect it to be much cheaper, considering this device is a hot product and new to the market. And sellers will naturally want to maximize profits on this kind of thing. Leave it to capitalism to bring out the greed in humanity. Unfortunately, its' competing economic philosophies are largely failures as history has proven, so it's not like we have better options.
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How much, compared to normal retail pricing? I wouldn't expect it to be much cheaper, considering this device is a hot product and new to the market. And sellers will naturally want to maximize profits on this kind of thing. Leave it to capitalism to bring out the greed in humanity. Unfortunately, its' competing economic philosophies are largely failures as history has proven, so it's not like we have better options.
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About $870. Before taxes and shipping (mostly taxes) bumped the price up, I won the bid at $793. A pretty decent deal considering the tablet itself is $900 MSRP (iirc). Not to mention the included slim keyboard case which is $160 (iirc). I don't plan on using the keyboard case it came with except for maybe the cover. I care about the keyboard itself less since it doesn't have the trackpad, and I use that a lot. I'm most likely just gonna flip the sealed keyboard case on another site (at MSRP ofc since scalping is an awful thing to do).
Update: Tablet is in transit and the estimated arrival time still says April 2, but the city the tablet's coming from is only a little more than an hour away from mine. So, it may show up earlier than that. I'll keep you guys posted.
SavXL said:
Update: Tablet is in transit and the estimated arrival time still says April 2, but the city the tablet's coming from is only a little more than an hour away from mine. So, it may show up earlier than that. I'll keep you guys posted.
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Yeah, that's happened to me too. Sometimes the delivery happened quicker than the stated date. But on one occasion I watched as my package's starting point (less than 8 miles from where I live) suddenly changed to NY, Florida, Texas, Nevada, Oregon, then finally it came to my city. As it turns out, they were air-transporting it around the US. I was furious, that delivery took 5 days longer than the stated date. I think someone somewhere made a mistake.
Update: It arrived today! I'm very excited to see if this little experiment of mine will work. I'm going to try it tomorrow. See you guys then!
SavXL said:
Update: It arrived today! I'm very excited to see if this little experiment of mine will work. I'm going to try it tomorrow. See you guys then!
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Trust me, it won't. But you can try anyway. Be ready to reflash your stock recovery or even a full stock firmware, once you see that I'm correct.
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Trust me, it won't. But you can try anyway. Be ready to reflash your stock recovery or even a full stock firmware, once you see that I'm correct.
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It's probably not gonna work, and I do have firmware ready to flash the tablet back to a factory state. It would be incredible if it did since it's not made for the Tab S8+, but I won't hold my breath.