So I'm fairly new to the Nexus 6, but I have had a Nexus 5 in the past (More recently coming from a Zenfone 2)..I've noticed that while applications open fairly quick on Marshmallow (Even the system UI is fairly smooth), I get a lot lag and jank in scrolling, and applications that work well on my girlfriend's 5x have poor performance on my 6.
Can anyone else relate to this? Apps like Pintrest, Instagram, Tumblr, Ebay, Amazon all aren't as smooth as they should be, and sometimes web browsing can be horrendous (Almost like a touch delay when scrolling).
I've tried clean wipes, flashed the stock images, tried non-stock roms, different kernels, everything I can think of, but to me, the phone just isnt as smooth as I thought it would be. I get that it's over a year old, but I still expected a bit more.
Am I alone here? Again, the UI itself is fine, its more application based \ scrolling based.
Well, the 6 and 5x have the same GPU, more or less. The 5x GPU is miniaturized, but otherwise identical.
The 5x has a 1920x1080 display, or roughly 2 million pixels.
The 6 has a 2560x1440 display..... 3.7 million pixels.
So, why would you possibly imagine that with the SAME GPU, but nearly TWICE the number of pixels, that the 6 would be able to produce the same graphical performance as the 5x?
*** UNREASONABLE EXPECTATIONS!!!
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So I'm fairly new to the Nexus 6, but I have had a Nexus 5 in the past (More recently coming from a Zenfone 2)..I've noticed that while applications open fairly quick on Marshmallow (Even the system UI is fairly smooth), I get a lot lag and jank in scrolling, and applications that work well on my girlfriend's 5x have poor performance on my 6.
Can anyone else relate to this? Apps like Pintrest, Instagram, Tumblr, Ebay, Amazon all aren't as smooth as they should be, and sometimes web browsing can be horrendous (Almost like a touch delay when scrolling).
I've tried clean wipes, flashed the stock images, tried non-stock roms, different kernels, everything I can think of, but to me, the phone just isnt as smooth as I thought it would be. I get that it's over a year old, but I still expected a bit more.
Am I alone here? Again, the UI itself is fine, its more application based \ scrolling based.
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Have you tried turning off the encryption? When I came from the N5 I noticed the phone was not as smooth as the N5 until I turned the encryption off. Early on it made a big difference as they did not have NEON encryption optimizations enabled. Was that was enabled the difference was small but it is still noticeable to me between haveing the encryption running and not. It is not night and day but I think you will notice it.
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Well, the 6 and 5x have the same GPU, more or less. The 5x GPU is miniaturized, but otherwise identical.
The 5x has a 1920x1080 display, or roughly 2 million pixels.
The 6 has a 2560x1440 display..... 3.7 million pixels.
So, why would you possibly imagine that with the SAME GPU, but nearly TWICE the number of pixels, that the 6 would be able to produce the same graphical performance as the 5x?
*** UNREASONABLE EXPECTATIONS!!!
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I don't think expecting a phone that's a little over a year old, (That was a flagship mind you), to run smoothly is unreasonable. While it's pushing more pixels than the 5x, the processor should be quite similar, along with an extra GB of ram.
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Have you tried turning off the encryption? When I came from the N5 I noticed the phone was not as smooth as the N5 until I turned the encryption off. Early on it made a big difference as they did not have NEON encryption optimizations enabled. Was that was enabled the difference was small but it is still noticeable to me between haveing the encryption running and not. It is not night and day but I think you will notice it.
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I am running a modified stock ROM now that has encryption turned off, and it is a little better, but unfortunately you're right, it's not night and day.
smokinjoe2122 said:
So I'm fairly new to the Nexus 6, but I have had a Nexus 5 in the past (More recently coming from a Zenfone 2)..I've noticed that while applications open fairly quick on Marshmallow (Even the system UI is fairly smooth), I get a lot lag and jank in scrolling, and applications that work well on my girlfriend's 5x have poor performance on my 6.
Can anyone else relate to this? Apps like Pintrest, Instagram, Tumblr, Ebay, Amazon all aren't as smooth as they should be, and sometimes web browsing can be horrendous (Almost like a touch delay when scrolling).
I've tried clean wipes, flashed the stock images, tried non-stock roms, different kernels, everything I can think of, but to me, the phone just isnt as smooth as I thought it would be. I get that it's over a year old, but I still expected a bit more.
Am I alone here? Again, the UI itself is fine, its more application based \ scrolling based.
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I have none of these issues on my 6
Go in developer options and try to turn off all animation transitions, that improved speed for me
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So I'm fairly new to the Nexus 6, but I have had a Nexus 5 in the past (More recently coming from a Zenfone 2)..I've noticed that while applications open fairly quick on Marshmallow (Even the system UI is fairly smooth), I get a lot lag and jank in scrolling, and applications that work well on my girlfriend's 5x have poor performance on my 6.
Can anyone else relate to this? Apps like Pintrest, Instagram, Tumblr, Ebay, Amazon all aren't as smooth as they should be, and sometimes web browsing can be horrendous (Almost like a touch delay when scrolling).
I've tried clean wipes, flashed the stock images, tried non-stock roms, different kernels, everything I can think of, but to me, the phone just isnt as smooth as I thought it would be. I get that it's over a year old, but I still expected a bit more.
Am I alone here? Again, the UI itself is fine, its more application based \ scrolling based.
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I've had my Nexus for 13 months. (Purchased in February 2015). I've rooted and run various ROMs on the device over the last year. Since I have the Next plan with AT&T I've been planning on upgrading soon so a couple weeks ago I went back to unrooted stock. Since then I've been having the same issues you mention. I don't have a 5x to compare to, but it is definitely lagging a lot more than before. Last night I was trying to view something on Amazon, and it just sat there with a white screen. Many times my keyboard stays floating above the homescreen when I press the "home" softkey, or stays floating after I am done typing in Facebook, messenger etc. It just LAGS big time. Also the battery drain has been horrendous. I've been getting so PO'd at it I've been tempted to go get a Note (GASP!) Last night was the last straw I uninstalled swiftkey (been a avid user for years never an issue) and the CM Locker I had installed so I could have a different lock screen photo (since I'm no longer rooted). I'm giving it 24 hours, and if it is still acting up, I am either re-rooting or upgrading (although there's like NOTHING that I like right now for devices).
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Go in developer options and try to turn off all animation transitions, that improved speed for me
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I just did that. Hopefully that helps with my issue too.
Well, mine is mostly related to the jank when scrolling through applications. The UI, keyboard, ect all works fine. However, The worst is browsing web sites with chrome - I can flick to scroll up and there almost seems to be a second delay sometimes. I've never experienced anything like that before. Also when when using apps such as twitter, amazon, ebay, ect, the scrolling is really bad - Worse than my Zenfone 2.
Again, I've fastboot flash'd the complete stock rom multiple times, tried various kernels\modded roms, ect. They all display this behavior, some worse than others.
I love the size, screen quality, and build of this phone, but for a phone that's last year's Google flagship, I find the performance horrible.
Try turn off animations anyway, you don't have to be rooted, unlocked, yust tap build number 7 times, back to settings/ developer options and put to 0 trazitions, animations,animator..and optionally reboot.
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Well, mine is mostly related to the jank when scrolling through applications. The UI, keyboard, ect all works fine. However, The worst is browsing web sites with chrome - I can flick to scroll up and there almost seems to be a second delay sometimes. I've never experienced anything like that before. Also when when using apps such as twitter, amazon, ebay, ect, the scrolling is really bad - Worse than my Zenfone 2.
Again, I've fastboot flash'd the complete stock rom multiple times, tried various kernels\modded roms, ect. They all display this behavior, some worse than others.
I love the size, screen quality, and build of this phone, but for a phone that's last year's Google flagship, I find the performance horrible.
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Have to say, I have none of those issues as someone else also stated. If it does the same on stock, it might be hardware related. How does the phone behave in recovery? Is scrolling as normal? What recovery are you using? And when you say you went back to stock, did you do a complete factory reset including deleting all your personal data? If so, you can also try re-locking your bootloader and unlocking it and then flash factory image from Google. That will also erase everything off your device, including personal data.
With thousands of people here on XDA using a Nexus 6, your issue seems to be specific to you and your device. Maybe it is a screen/digitizer issue.
Seemed to me the February build was slow and janky but the the March was back to normal performance for me, op didn't state what build you were on. Might be an option
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Seemed to me the February build was slow and janky but the the March was back to normal performance for me, op didn't state what build you were on. Might be an option
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I'm on the March build. I usually fastboot flash every img myself, then do a factory reset in recovery when trying to get back to stock..This time I just used the Flash-All.bat for the March image and I'll do some testing. I doubt this method is the difference, I'm grasping at straws. I'm semi concerned now if no one else is having these issues...Or maybe my expectations are just too high.
Perhaps I'll try a screen recording app and see if I can capture what I'm running into. It's not all apps, and it's not all the time, but its definitely noticeable.
you're not alone. i recently picked up a ZTE zmax 2 and did a side by side app load speed test. the ZTE zmax 2 loaded up youtube noticeably faster, had thumbnails faster, and played faster when clicking play. the zmax 2 is a midrange ATT phone with Snapdragon 410, 2gb ram, 720p screen. it costs $99 at best buy today..
I've noticed this too between my Nexus 6 (purchased 4/2015) and my wife's Nexus 6 (purchased 10/2015). Hers is noticeably smoother.
I do have occasional screen tearing on mine when I use certain kernel/ROMs, so maybe it's janky hardware.
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I know the frustration, for me it is kernel related, but we cant do nothing, we need new device tree by google. I'm really disappointed that g3 has QHD screen with 801 and is smoother than nexus 6 with 805
fedef12evo said:
I know the frustration, for me it is kernel related, but we cant do nothing, we need new device tree by google. I'm really disappointed that g3 has QHD screen with 801 and is smoother than nexus 6 with 805
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My wifey has a G3 and I can't agree. When she is using my phone, she is always amazed how fluid it is.
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My wifey has a G3 and I can't agree. When she is using my phone, she is always amazed how fluid it is.
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Is your wife g3 on 6.0 marshmellow?
Flashing stock over again really didn't do much for performance. I Did however root it, and increase the GPU clock (Actually set it to performance idles at 300mhz then shoots to 600hmz), and that does seem to help. I can sacrifice battery for better performance in this instance.
Have to agree, at around the end of the day (by 40% battery) my phone slows down. I went pure stock. A quick reboot fixes it. But a tad frustrating
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Okay so I'm not one to complain but I just got the note 4 about 5 hours ago and damn does this thing stutter, Like opening apps scrolling through the home screens and stuff is fine but no apps and I mean none run smooth, they all have the micro scrolling stutter and even after switching to art they still do it. And I'm coming from a nexus 4 so this phone shouldn't feel like a high end phone yet perform like a a low end phone I have not rooted but I am deciding to just Duke it out and wait for roms I already received the update that's supposed to help the lag and no difference I mean I kind of new what I was getting my self into when I got it considering it is a Samsung phone but still. Hoping for hyper drive or at least a debloated stock rom soon
I have no lag at all. Have you tried rebooting it and maybe a factory reset?
Even in power saving its pretty smooth i m an old nexus 4-5 user too i wouldnt expect this smoothness from a touchwiz phone
Yes the first thing I did was factory reset then I disabled a bunch of Samsung and Google Apps I didn't use and yea I'm giving it a week if nothing improves I'm swapping it out for another one
Is this snapdragon or exynos ? No lag here aswell (910c)
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Yes the first thing I did was factory reset then I disabled a bunch of Samsung and Google Apps I didn't use and yea I'm giving it a week if nothing improves I'm swapping it out for another one
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If you're planning to root, don't just yet. It could be a hardware fault somewhere, because as you said, it still stutters after a factory reset. Once you root, you lose all warranty, even if it turns out to be harware fault.
If you can try visit a store with Note 4 demo units, compare them to yours.
I already tried some days a couple of Note 4. 1 abit lag, stutter lag, but another much smoother. Pls return it and get another one
Run some benchmarks before you return it - if it's hardware reason it should result in lower benchamrk results.
I was messing around with my brother's Note 4 (Snapdragon) and noticed lag as well. Which is funny because I was exploring my friend's S5 and there was absolutely 100% no lag. My brother had a live wallpaper and a bunch of apps running in the background, so I assume that could be the reason. However, there shouldn't be any lag what-so-ever at this point. WTF is going on?
Maybe I'll wait for the Note 5. Lol.
I use exynos version and get no lag at all
My ram free never over 400mb but it still very smooth
Maybe you should try factory reset and make sure dont change your device to art
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acsbg said:
Is this snapdragon or exynos ? No lag here aswell (910c)
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where did you order it from? I'm looking for that version...
lgass said:
where did you order it from? I'm looking for that version...
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Its the version sold here in Bulgaria, im not aware of any online shops that will ship it internationally though...
OsSkates1996 said:
Okay so I'm not one to complain but I just got the note 4 about 5 hours ago and damn does this thing stutter, Like opening apps scrolling through the home screens and stuff is fine but no apps and I mean none run smooth, they all have the micro scrolling stutter and even after switching to art they still do it. And I'm coming from a nexus 4 so this phone shouldn't feel like a high end phone yet perform like a a low end phone I have not rooted but I am deciding to just Duke it out and wait for roms I already received the update that's supposed to help the lag and no difference I mean I kind of new what I was getting my self into when I got it considering it is a Samsung phone but still. Hoping for hyper drive or at least a debloated stock rom soon
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I dont thing this is true story.....if its true then you have faulty note 4
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Its the version sold here in Bulgaria, im not aware of any online shops that will ship it internationally though...
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ok! thanks!
I have the t mobile snapdragon version and yea i will be testing it extensively for a week before I do anything because I mean even some of the display models at best buy were being smoother than mine haha but don't get me wrong guys I love this phone it is amazing I just can't take the stuttering and about the s5 yes that's weird my dad has the s5 and I was comparing it to my note and noticed no lag at all compared to my note :/
Or could it just be that the display is so clear that even the littlest things are noticeable? Lol
Mine is really laggy (snapdragon UK version) it takes 2-3 seconds to load up the open apps menu, 2-3 seconds to then open an app such as facebook, google, menu, gallery etc, I don't play many games but one I use quite often which the phone should smash through is Words with friends, it takes awhile to load and you can literally see it lagging as you move the tiles from one section to another.
You can see it lagging as you scroll through facebook and twitter also.
Got a SA Vodacom Snapdragon one and no lag.
Not really lag, but more like device throttling. Check out this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-sprint/help/camera-video-lagging-t2913392
Mine is N910C (Exynos Edition).
No lag as you mention.
I even test with my friend iPhone 6 Plus, 99% apps opening in Note 4 is ahead faster than iPhone 6 Plus.
The only slight delay is Recent Apps and also sometimes they is a little slight jittering animation.
Overall this Note 4 is pretty smooth. I rate it second smoother animation android after HTC One M8 but for speed, it is the most speedy android phone ever for the moment.
I've had the Moto X for about a month and a half and one thing that's always bothered me is the odd software lag. Let me point out where this is most noticeable:
- Twitter: with images enabled in the news feed, scrolling becomes extremely jittery. this issue is non-existent on the Galaxy S5 (I've tried them side by side and they have the same processor)
- Google Music: terrible experience all around when it comes to animations. when opening the app, the bar on the bottom that pops up with your last played track lags. when selecting your library the app lags when loading album artwork. everything about this app is laggy which is odd for the 801 + 320 chipset.
There are other areas where the phone stutters and I can't figure out why. It's been like this since day 1, and I don't have an excessive amount of apps running in the background (usually 850mb of RAM being used). Opening the app drawer and scrolling between home screens is smooth - it's just the graphics performance in apps can be utter crap. Anyone else notice this? I'm running 4.4.4 btw. I've been thinking of doing a software reset but don't want to go through the hassle. I don't have any out-of-the-ordinary apps installed so I'm baffled as to why an almost stock Android device behaves likes this.
This happens to me as well. For the hardware in the Moto X it sure doesn't perform like it. I actually made a post just like this the other day.
Are you rooted? I'm considering downgrading back to 4.4.4 I cannot stand it. I will probably end up returning the phone for a refund.
I'm honestly surprised to hear this, my moto X has been smoother than my nexus 5. I'd really try the master reset and load up apps a few at a time to see if/when you get lag again.
Something has got to be going on with your phone, the Moto X is hands down the smoothest Android phone I've ever owned which says a lot because I've owned upwards of 20, and most of them were flagships. I also have the N5 at the moment and the X is noticeably smoother when side by side, and that is a major feat considering how insanely smooth the N5 is. I'd do a reset and maybe even a reflash if you can. If that doesn't work, maybe you just got a bad device.
Me too especially chrome both on kitkat and lollipop and only on specific websites. Google books too to be honest but hardly noticeable.
I was surprised to see a bit of jitter considering the high praise it gets.
Now perhaps this is just how it should be, but the z3 compact with same specs felt faster albeit with a smaller res.
I've noticed it too. Can we find a common theme?
Mine is the pure edition with system version 22.21.11 lollipop
Build number LXE22.46-11
Moto additional features turned on
Not modified, not rooted
bobloblawsum said:
I've noticed it too. Can we find a common theme?
Mine is the pure edition with system version 22.21.11 lollipop
Build number LXE22.46-11
Moto additional features turned on
Not modified, not rooted
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Just to follow up. I ended up unlocking the boot loader and rooting my phone, in the process essentially factory wiping it. Since then it's been noticibly faster.
I doubt it has anything to do with rooting it and everything to do with resetting it. I believe the OTA update to lollipop out of the box just left too much crap in the cache maybe? Who knows.
Now it's just like the nexus 5 in terms of fluidity
I noticed some terrible lag with the Telus 4.4.4 build. Even with a full reset it just never seemed to live up to the hardware standards. At absolutely everything my Nexus 7 2013 was faster(with both using the ART runtime).
One possibly significant thing I noticed with 4.4.4 is if I would ftp a file via wifi from a local machine the speed was incredibly slow, only 300kB/sec. Wifi however was super fast for nearly anything else, I also ran a flash benchmark test and it was quick. But when ftping and writing to flash it was always slow. I have since updated to the t-mobile lollipop build and the same ftp is now 2600kB/sec and the entire phone is quicker with no lag.
Lollipop runs like crap. Getting constant redraws all the time
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Me too especially chrome both on kitkat and lollipop and only on specific websites. Google books too to be honest but hardly noticeable.
I was surprised to see a bit of jitter considering the high praise it gets.
Now perhaps this is just how it should be, but the z3 compact with same specs felt faster albeit with a smaller res.
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That lower res makes all the difference in the world. It has the same SOC as all the current flagships, but because of the 720p display it'll outperform any of them. That's also one of the reasons why it gets such great battery life too. That phone is one seriously awesome piece of tech. And as much as I hate OEM skins, I actually like Sony's.
A lot of phones sometimes get lagged up after an OTA, even the iPhone can and has for ppm and myself. If clearing cache in recovery don't help try a factory reset. Its not a problem with just the moto x.
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No lag here. This is the smoothest phone I have used non rooted.
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A lot of phones sometimes get lagged up after an OTA, even the iPhone can and has for ppm and myself. If clearing cache in recovery don't help try a factory reset. Its not a problem with just the moto x.
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Clearing cache did not have an effect, but a factory reset seems to have completely alleviated the lag/stuttering issues. Thanks!
Guys,
I need your opinion on something. I have this annoying thing that given my slight OCD is going to drive me crazy. It's this: scrolling in any app (main culprits are Facebook and Youtube) is simply not as smooth as on my OnePlus One. It has this stuttering effect which is not super obvious at first, but when the phones are next to each other the difference is highly noticeable.
What is your experience with scrolling in apps? Is it smooth as butter or do you also notice some stutter? Could I have a dud device? Anyway to find out?
Scrolling seems fine to me, but I'm not comparing it with something else side by side, and have no ocd...
Willyman said:
Guys,
I need your opinion on something. I have this annoying thing that given my slight OCD is going to drive me crazy. It's this: scrolling in any app (main culprits are Facebook and Youtube) is simply not as smooth as on my OnePlus One. It has this stuttering effect which is not super obvious at first, but when the phones are next to each other the difference is highly noticeable.
What is your experience with scrolling in apps? Is it smooth as butter or do you also notice some stutter? Could I have a dud device? Anyway to find out?
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That is my experience as well. A osprey based roms have slightly better in app scrolling. That Samsung browser is so bad that I had to stop using it.
Willyman said:
Guys,
I need your opinion on something. I have this annoying thing that given my slight OCD is going to drive me crazy. It's this: scrolling in any app (main culprits are Facebook and Youtube) is simply not as smooth as on my OnePlus One. It has this stuttering effect which is not super obvious at first, but when the phones are next to each other the difference is highly noticeable.
What is your experience with scrolling in apps? Is it smooth as butter or do you also notice some stutter? Could I have a dud device? Anyway to find out?
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I have ocd too and im very sensitive to lag and choppy scrolling. Completely agree. I have the oneplus one as well. Note 5 is faster everywhere but scrolling is not that smooth. YouTube is really choppy compared to other phones. My oneplus one's screen is much less responsive though. input lag everywhere so I would rather have the note 5's choppy scrolling instead.
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It's just bizarre really. This thing absolutely flies, it has power to spare, multitasking, Youtube, gaming ... but certain things are just not smooth.
Things I notice that bother me:
Scrolling in apps... Main culprits Youtube and Facebook
Pulling down notification shade... A subtle stutter
Scrolling through a long list op open apps... A small stutter in the beginning
It's small things, but it seems to have issues with refreshing graphics somehow. I don't know, I'm not knowledgeable enough. Unfortunately there is no root available yet for my model (N9200) so all I can do is wait I guess,
Willyman said:
It's just bizarre really. This thing absolutely flies, it has power to spare, multitasking, Youtube, gaming ... but certain things are just not smooth.
Things I notice that bother me:
Scrolling in apps... Main culprits Youtube and Facebook
Pulling down notification shade... A subtle stutter
Scrolling through a long list op open apps... A small stutter in the beginning
It's small things, but it seems to have issues with refreshing graphics somehow. I don't know, I'm not knowledgeable enough. Unfortunately there is no root available yet for my model (N9200) so all I can do is wait I guess,
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I have noticed all those except for the notification shade. I disabled a bunch of apps of course, including that Quick connect and the other thing that was up there all the time, so maybe that helped. I am seeing a ton of improvements in scrolling with all the apps I have disabled but not to where I would call it super smooth. For some reason scrolling in the browser is pretty smooth which is usually the place i see problems on other phones. It must have something to do with how touchwiz handles scrolling cache. If someone comes up with a mod to adjust it, that may almost be a big enough reason for me to root my phone.
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I have noticed all those except for the notification shade. I disabled a bunch of apps of course, including that Quick connect and the other thing that was up there all the time, so maybe that helped. I am seeing a ton of improvements in scrolling with all the apps I have disabled but not to where I would call it super smooth. For some reason scrolling in the browser is pretty smooth which is usually the place i see problems on other phones. It must have something to do with how touchwiz handles scrolling cache. If someone comes up with a mod to adjust it, that may almost be a big enough reason for me to root my phone.
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Thanks. Yeah, I've done the same (disabling apps etc...). It definitely not bad, but it's not as smooth as other Android phones I've used. Fast yes, perfectly smooth, no.
Updates seem to come quickly. I've had 2 already in 2 weeks. let's see. And with Android M around the corner, I'm sure in a few weeks/months things will be perfect.
Samsung have anyways had this issue with their phones. Never been butter smooth due to bloat ware mainly. No matter the specs phone lags and stutters, I think Samsung should ditch TW.
Note 5 is a fantastic looking phone but ui is concerning.
Utterly bizarre... Things have dramatically improved and I literally did nothing...
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Utterly bizarre... Things have dramatically improved and I literally did nothing...
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Still choppy over here. Did you get an update? Are you using international version?
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I'm so close to returning this, and getting the Nexus 6. I've tried every browser available, and I'm not sure if it's the 64-bit architecture or what, it's probably TouchWiz, I'm not sure. I compared it to my galaxy s5 and it's worse. Why is scrolling terrible? I hope somebody comes up with the fix, id bloated about everything I can, and factory reset.
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I'm so close to returning this, and getting the Nexus 6. I've tried every browser available, and I'm not sure if it's the 64-bit architecture or what, it's probably TouchWiz, I'm not sure. I compared it to my galaxy s5 and it's worse. Why is scrolling terrible? I hope somebody comes up with the fix, id bloated about everything I can, and factory reset.
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Download Lightning Browser+ from the playstore. The paid version blocks all adds and the scrolling is very smooth. It's what I'm using on my Note 5.
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Still choppy over here. Did you get an update? Are you using international version?
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No update. Like I said, its all a bit bizarre. All I can say is that the two last charging cycles things are a lot better.
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I'm so close to returning this, and getting the Nexus 6. I've tried every browser available, and I'm not sure if it's the 64-bit architecture or what, it's probably TouchWiz, I'm not sure. I compared it to my galaxy s5 and it's worse. Why is scrolling terrible? I hope somebody comes up with the fix, id bloated about everything I can, and factory reset.
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One thing I found works is to install Adguard (not in store, just google it). It will block ads and make scrolling in Chrome a lot better. The only annoying part I would say is a persistent VPN notification. Adguard uses a local VPN which results in a permanent notification. If you can live with that I found it to be pretty great.
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One thing I found works is to install Adguard (not in store, just google it). It will block ads and make scrolling in Chrome a lot better. The only annoying part I would say is a persistent VPN notification. Adguard uses a local VPN which results in a permanent notification. If you can live with that I found it to be pretty great.
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I thought it was just in my head but I gave adguard a try after some time of not using it and I thought it made the whole system faster. Still not 100% sure but things could be a tad smoother and more responsive in general. I'm trying to decide whether it's worth having it constantly running in the background and using chrome or just using lightning browser with its ad blocker built in.
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My AT&T version has no issue in scrolling - either in the UI or individual apps I use. I'll get some lag when scrolling fast in the Gallery or FlickFolio but that's because I'm scrolling faster than the thumbnails can load. That's an OS thing, not a h/w or UI thing. Overall the diet Samsung put TW and their own apps on has really paid off.
I'm starting to believe it has something to do with the last "performance increasing update " . I can see from other threads on here that not everyone is on it yet. I received it mid last week. I had another Note 5 before which I returned as it had an issue with the Screen. That one never got upgraded to that stage and was very smooth. This one I have now felt smooth as well, but think that it got worse with the upgrade. I'm now on the update captured in the screenshot. It ends in AHO4. The one before was AHO2.
Once I've figured out how to flash that version on there using Odin3, I will give that a shot and turn off automatic updates. To be continued...
Willyman said:
I'm starting to believe it has something to do with the last "performance increasing update " . I can see from other threads on here that not everyone is on it yet. I received it mid last week. I had another Note 5 before which I returned as it had an issue with the Screen. That one never got upgraded to that stage and was very smooth. This one I have now felt smooth as well, but think that it got worse with the upgrade. I'm now on the update captured in the screenshot. It ends in AHO4. The one before was AHO2.
Once I've figured out how to flash that version on there using Odin3, I will give that a shot and turn off automatic updates. To be continued...
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What was the issue with your screen?
WizeGuyDezignz said:
What was the issue with your screen?
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Discolourization.
Settings > Developer Options.
Window animation scale, Transition animation scale, Animator duration scale. Change all to "off". Has always seemed to speed up any Android device I've ever used.
Hello.
My T-Mobile G4 has had 6.0 Marshmallow since February. I've noticed since I've updated to Marshmallow that the performance is definitely worse than Lollipop, particularly in gaming. Games will seem to run fine for about 30 seconds or so, then the framerate just completely goes out of whack. These aren't little micro stutters, but jumpy, jittery, and wobbly graphics problems. I was able to run the FPS meter app to see what the games were running at. Sure enough, the game (I tested Hill Climb Racing with the fps app, but the issues exist in every game I've tried. 2D and 3D) would run at 59-60 fps for about 30 seconds, then when the jitters started, it went down to 51 fps according to the app.
Now, I've seen these same jittery scrolling issues on Dolphin Browser (other browsers too, but to a lesser degree), Gmail, QuickPic, YouTube, Google+, and even the freaking home screen. I've factory reset multiple times and ran the phone without installing any apps, tested the phone in safe mode, cleared the cache, removed the sd card, formatted the sd card, switched batteries, turned on airplane mode, toggled game optimizer, toggled some developer options, and even went through 3 different warranty exchanges (two manufactured in May 2015 and my current one from July 2015). The ONLY THING that seems to help is time. The longer I have the phone on (maybe about 5 days to a week), the better chance the phone has of smoothing out. I kept the phone on for 35 days straight recently because I knew it would get sluggish again if I restarted and I was right. I unfortunately had to restart due to a WiFi issue.
The main reason I'm posting here is because I haven't gotten an answer anywhere else. Apparently, either everyone else has a G4 that actually performs just fine on Marshmallow or they just don't seem to notice (not sure how they couldn't, considering how obvious the graphics problems are).
Is it a kernel/governor issue? Perhaps there's a developer that can tell me what's going on with the phone?
...Anyone?
Larry L said:
...Anyone?
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read this thread..:good:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/help/g4-unusable-gaming-extremely-low-fps-mm-t3405733
raptorddd said:
read this thread..:good:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/help/g4-unusable-gaming-extremely-low-fps-mm-t3405733
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Thanks for that link. Unfortunately, they don't seem to provide any solution (maybe root), but it at least shows that I'm not the only one with these performance irregularities.
Larry L said:
Thanks for that link. Unfortunately, they don't seem to provide any solution (maybe root), but it at least shows that I'm not the only one with these performance irregularities.
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i think its MM..
raptorddd said:
i think its MM..
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Are all MM phones having performance problems in some way? I've heard that phones like the Nexus 6P have pretty much flawless performance. I've heard that the Oneplus 3 is like butter too.
Is MM just crippling older SOC's like the 808?
Larry L said:
Are all MM phones having performance problems in some way? I've heard that phones like the Nexus 6P have pretty much flawless performance. I've heard that the Oneplus 3 is like butter too.
Is MM just crippling older SOC's like the 808?
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not sure never been on MM when i got my phone, i flash LP just for root. and cause i read that battery isnt good and performance.. it could be.. and that it isnt optimized... theres new 20o firmware not sure how it works... but be aware that once you flash 20o thers no going back to LP.. as long as you on 20i you can go back to LP 10N otherwise youll brick your phone 20i adn 10N are antirollback V2 the new 20o its V3.
I picked this phone up as secondary device/work phone. I've had it for about 6 months now, after spending some time trawling reviews, and I find myself dissapointed.
I have updated the firmware every time to see if issues are resolved, however I am still not 100% happy.
My main issues are as follows:
Battery life seems really random, even with very little running, especially for a 5000Mah battery.
Performance feels heavily capped
I feel like the hardware of this phone just isn't being properly utilised, or has been performanced capped (maybe to try and prevent taking market share from the company's higher end devices). My personal mobile is an Oppo Find X2 Pro, using a Snapdragon 865, and whilst some stuff is noticeably fast and as snappy as I'd expect from the Snapdragon 888 in this phone, other things just feel slow or stuttery. Perfect example is games. In many games, like Diablo Immortal, the older Find X2 Pro sits around 60FPS with few issues and reasonable settings.
If I try to run the same settings with this phone, I'm greeted with a much more variable 40-60 FPS, which no amount of tweaking the settings seems to fix. There is no way the Snapdragon 865 should be outperforming the 888, but it is. The underlying OS is very similar as Oppo and Realme are part of the same group, to the point they even use the same game toolkit, but despite all this and the better hardware, the Realme is outperformed by the older Find X2 Pro.
Am I the only one getting this experience?
it is a great phone but I agree to you at the most
For me the best problem is the Os .
The apps is free to do what they want without a capable phone manager to stop them.
I also have this phone since it came out, very disappointed! Bad battery, heating, low performance in most apps, camera colors, audio etc.
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Perfect example is games. In many games, like Diablo Immortal, the older Find X2 Pro sits around 60FPS with few issues and reasonable settings. If I try to run the same settings with this phone, I'm greeted with a much more variable 40-60 FPS, which no amount of tweaking the settings seems to fix.
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Can't believe no one is talking about this..
Got mine weeks ago with first release of Android 12 pre-installed (from October 2021). Performance was amazing, Diablo was buttery smooth even stupidly maxed-out. Did only one OTA update (still Android 12 after that), it killed performance from every games even at low settings, stutters was everywhere, even at 30FPS cap, unnaceptable. Then did OTA to Android 13, same even with factory reset. Was thinking of returning it at that point.
Then, tried to unlock bootloader to clean install the oldest Android 12 available from here. Games was again buttery smooth, but camera app was crashing and OS had weird glitchs, soo.. was stuck here, disapointed. Tried using the newest Adreno GPU Drivers with root, same garbage performance from games. Debloated the entire rom, same. What's strange is that benchmarks results like 3DMark doesn't show any degradation from good A12 to bad A12/A13.. was thinking it could be refresh rate related but even tweaking with SmartHertz didn't help.
I'm now on Pixel OS (available from the official website), performance is amazing, original GT2 camera app is pre-installed (quality is exactly the same as ColorOs), have unlimited space usage from Photos in original quality, and everything is working. You also don't need SmartHertz to get everything in 120Hz (like Brave), "adaptative" resfresh rate is working too (60/120Hz). Battery life, got 12H SOT on a three days basis with mostly browsing usage, some photos, little games, and basic power saver on, ended at 7%. Pretty happy now, it's surprisely good for a rom this early.
So yes, all of this crap is ColorOS related. Something got broken somewhere at the A12 2022 timeline.
They unfortunately halted (momentarily ?) their unlock server so..
@Lightning- , are you talking about pixelos from this site? https://pixelos.net/download/porsche
Can you also point to a tutorial on how to get back to stock after flashing pixelos?
Yes, this one. There is also LineageOS rom but it just keep bootlooping on my side for some reason.
Revert to stock : https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/collection-of-ota-packages.4542941/post-88558929 + https://github.com/italorecife/OppoRealme-OFP-Flash
For me it is the battery life and the lack of modification to the rom
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Can't believe no one is talking about this..
Got mine weeks ago with first release of Android 12 pre-installed (from October 2021). Performance was amazing, Diablo was buttery smooth even stupidly maxed-out. Did only one OTA update (still Android 12 after that), it killed performance from every games even at low settings, stutters was everywhere, even at 30FPS cap, unnaceptable. Then did OTA to Android 13, same even with factory reset. Was thinking of returning it at that point.
Then, tried to unlock bootloader to clean install the oldest Android 12 available from here. Games was again buttery smooth, but camera app was crashing and OS had weird glitchs, soo.. was stuck here, disapointed. Tried using the newest Adreno GPU Drivers with root, same garbage performance from games. Debloated the entire rom, same. What's strange is that benchmarks results like 3DMark doesn't show any degradation from good A12 to bad A12/A13.. was thinking it could be refresh rate related but even tweaking with SmartHertz didn't help.
I'm now on Pixel OS (available from the official website), performance is amazing, original GT2 camera app is pre-installed (quality is exactly the same as ColorOs), have unlimited space usage from Photos in original quality, and everything is working. You also don't need SmartHertz to get everything in 120Hz (like Brave), "adaptative" resfresh rate is working too (60/120Hz). Battery life, got 12H SOT on a three days basis with mostly browsing usage, some photos, little games, and basic power saver on, ended at 7%. Pretty happy now, it's surprisely good for a rom this early.
So yes, all of this crap is ColorOS related. Something got broken somewhere at the A12 2022 timeline.
They unfortunately halted (momentarily ?) their unlock server so..
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This is really informative, thank you. I just wanted to ask if the microphone problem that this phone had is fixed when using Pixel OS?
friends, I'm on rmx3311_11_A.13 software right now and I don't like it especially charging and heating. there is rmx3311_11_A.22 update now, should i install it
alexrose1uk said:
I picked this phone up as secondary device/work phone. I've had it for about 6 months now, after spending some time trawling reviews, and I find myself dissapointed.
I have updated the firmware every time to see if issues are resolved, however I am still not 100% happy.
My main issues are as follows:
Battery life seems really random, even with very little running, especially for a 5000Mah battery.
Performance feels heavily capped
I feel like the hardware of this phone just isn't being properly utilised, or has been performanced capped (maybe to try and prevent taking market share from the company's higher end devices). My personal mobile is an Oppo Find X2 Pro, using a Snapdragon 865, and whilst some stuff is noticeably fast and as snappy as I'd expect from the Snapdragon 888 in this phone, other things just feel slow or stuttery. Perfect example is games. In many games, like Diablo Immortal, the older Find X2 Pro sits around 60FPS with few issues and reasonable settings.
If I try to run the same settings with this phone, I'm greeted with a much more variable 40-60 FPS, which no amount of tweaking the settings seems to fix. There is no way the Snapdragon 865 should be outperforming the 888, but it is. The underlying OS is very similar as Oppo and Realme are part of the same group, to the point they even use the same game toolkit, but despite all this and the better hardware, the Realme is outperformed by the older Find X2 Pro.
Am I the only one getting this experience?
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On Android 13 the CPU has been capped to 80°c which otherwise would be 95°c, this is done in order to reduce overheating, this increases battery backup however reduces performance by 10-20%, there is a magisk module I've made that unlocks this cap if you want I can send
Lightning- said:
Can't believe no one is talking about this..
Got mine weeks ago with first release of Android 12 pre-installed (from October 2021). Performance was amazing, Diablo was buttery smooth even stupidly maxed-out. Did only one OTA update (still Android 12 after that), it killed performance from every games even at low settings, stutters was everywhere, even at 30FPS cap, unnaceptable. Then did OTA to Android 13, same even with factory reset. Was thinking of returning it at that point.
Then, tried to unlock bootloader to clean install the oldest Android 12 available from here. Games was again buttery smooth, but camera app was crashing and OS had weird glitchs, soo.. was stuck here, disapointed. Tried using the newest Adreno GPU Drivers with root, same garbage performance from games. Debloated the entire rom, same. What's strange is that benchmarks results like 3DMark doesn't show any degradation from good A12 to bad A12/A13.. was thinking it could be refresh rate related but even tweaking with SmartHertz didn't help.
I'm now on Pixel OS (available from the official website), performance is amazing, original GT2 camera app is pre-installed (quality is exactly the same as ColorOs), have unlimited space usage from Photos in original quality, and everything is working. You also don't need SmartHertz to get everything in 120Hz (like Brave), "adaptative" resfresh rate is working too (60/120Hz). Battery life, got 12H SOT on a three days basis with mostly browsing usage, some photos, little games, and basic power saver on, ended at 7%. Pretty happy now, it's surprisely good for a rom this early.
So yes, all of this crap is ColorOS related. Something got broken somewhere at the A12 2022 timeline.
They unfortunately halted (momentarily ?) their unlock server so..
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Have you encountered any issues so far with pixel os, because I'm scared of changing the rom of the device.
BGGR said:
Have you encountered any issues so far with pixel os, because I'm scared of changing the rom of the device.
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I suggest you stay on Realme UI since it seems to be more stable than any other AOSP based rom rn, it has better battery backup and camera quality too, but the choice is yours
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Have you encountered any issues so far with pixel os, because I'm scared of changing the rom of the device.
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Almost three weeks with POS. I don't have any issue at all, better than stock, better battery life, no stability issue (no FC or randoms reboot), and camera is the exact same (tested with two GT2, one with POS and one with RUI 13 locked bootloader, there is ZERO difference in photos..). It has unlimited storage too with Google Photos at original quality (even with RAW), wich is a big plus by itself, no root required.
LineageOS is available too but it always bootloop on mine so can't test it.
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Almost three weeks with POS. I don't have any issue at all, better than stock, better battery life, no stability issue (no FC or randoms reboot), and camera is the exact same (tested with two GT2, one with POS and one with RUI 13 locked bootloader, there is ZERO difference in photos..). It has unlimited storage too with Google Photos at original quality (even with RAW), wich is a big plus by itself, no root required.
LineageOS is available too but it always bootloop on mine so can't test it.
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Will I be able to return to RUI in the future if I install a custom rom? (And still get the updates). Also How did you unlock the bootloader. The deep test app doesn't seem to work.