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Ditching AT&T for Sprint

First post in this great forum. Anyways, have a rooted inspire (shouts out to XDA for the ROM) and I love it. The only thing is, I hate AT&T and that stupid datapro plan. I am seriously thinking about ditching this service provider and its crappy network, in its hometown of Dallas, TX no less, pay the ETF fees and move to Sprint. Their plans seem attractive and they seem to be committed to unlimited data, the one thing that is attractive. Also, that Evo 3D looks nice, indeed.
Is it wise to kick AT&T to the curb and move on?

I would say so. Although, I would not count on Sprint keeping up with the unlimited plans forever, though.

Penguin35 said:
First post in this great forum. Anyways, have a rooted inspire (shouts out to XDA for the ROM) and I love it. The only thing is, I hate AT&T and that stupid datapro plan. I am seriously thinking about ditching this service provider and its crappy network, in its hometown of Dallas, TX no less, pay the ETF fees and move to Sprint. Their plans seem attractive and they seem to be committed to unlimited data, the one thing that is attractive. Also, that Evo 3D looks nice, indeed.
Is it wise to kick AT&T to the curb and move on?
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If you are gonna jump, do it... Sprint may very well not keep the unlimited 4G forever. (3G is capped at 5GB) If you live in a 4G area it's worth it IMO... At least you are grandfathered in (for at least two years or your next upgrade. If they drop the unlimited) I have them for my Mobile Broadband and I'm in a 4G area and I couldn't be happier...
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I'd do it. AT&T is awful. The people I know that have migrated to Sprint are extremely happy they have done as much.
Handset data is truly unlimited. Just gotta hope you're in a good coverage area. Also it is worth noting many people have experienced poor, and prolonged, data speeds for a while. Some have noticed increases in speeds while some haven't. I'm in a pretty good zone and haven't seen the crazy drop in speeds. Obviously I don't speak for the masses.
They cap mobile broadband / data cards at 5GB on 3G and unlimited on 4G. Not sure if that's what the poster above was meaning as she mentioned mobile broadband AFTER* - which many seem to get mixed up with just 'data.' Alas, that is just data cards, not actual handset data.
I agree, they do appear to be pretty committed to offering truly unlimited data for mobile devices, BUT, who knows how long that will last.
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Have used Sprint in the past and have been pretty happy with them overall. I prefer GSM so I use T-Mobile but I would say Sprint is better than AT&T.

conqu1stador said:
I'd do it. AT&T is awful. The people I know that have migrated to Sprint are extremely happy they have done as much.
Handset data is truly unlimited. Just gotta hope you're in a good coverage area. Also it is worth noting many people have experienced poor, and prolonged, data speeds for a while. Some have noticed increases in speeds while some haven't. I'm in a pretty good zone and haven't seen the crazy drop in speeds. Obviously I don't speak for the masses.
They cap mobile broadband / data cards at 5GB on 3G and unlimited on 4G. Not sure if that's what the poster above was meaning as she mentioned mobile broadband AFTER* - which many seem to get mixed up with just 'data.' Alas, that is just data cards, not actual handset data.
I agree, they do appear to be pretty committed to offering truly unlimited data for mobile devices, BUT, who knows how long that will last.
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AFIAK 3G data is capped. (i looked into switching after I heard about the T-mo/AT&T merger..cuz that's where I'm going once it happens) I actually called Sprint to inquire about their $129 family plan (which after the $10 data charge comes too $149 ) and that's what their rep told me.... (i guess I got another csr that doesn't actually know anything...)
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That $10 'premium data fee' (See the '4G fee' people were mistakenly referring to it as) provided truly unlimited data - both 3G and 4G. I'm not sure how far back those 5GB caps went, or if it were always for mobile broadband, but it's not the case now.
Now that the $10 'premium data fee' covers all Sprint 'smart phones' and not just '4G phones' that also opens up the unlimited. So you wouldn't necessarily 'need' a 4G phone, even though that was never really the case.
As per the mobile broadband / data cards, I think there was a revision lately ... but I can't be bothered to look. Maybe when I get back from my beer run I'll edit my post.
Handset data = unlimited
That's reason enough for me to be sticking with Sprint. Some of the data plans on the other carriers are straight up SAD.
There are roaming data issues that Sprint can bring up, like the Verizon 'hack' that got people just kicked right off Sprint. But that's another story.

I would go to T-mobile but thats me ive been a member for 10 years only pay $190 For my Family of 4 which includes Unlimited Data and Text and 3,000 Talk Mins. But again ive been a member for 10 years so i got some special discounts.

I just switched from tmobile to sprint, (should get my evo any-day now) I heard that they offer a credit for switching by 6/23 so i went for it. tmobile also only has EDGE in my area btw that was also a big reason for switching, and att? well where i work my buddy has 3g at his house he has EDGE, and its about 2 miles away...

I thought about switching from AT&T to Sprint. I went and got a phone with Sprint before switching, so I could try it out to see how the service was around my way. I found out that Sprint had terrible service pretty much everywhere I went. Some buddies also confirmed this. I guess it's just hit and miss depending on where you are. So I've stuck with AT&T, since their service is better for me and I have my grandfathered unlimited data plan.

LTE in Houston TX! WORKING on T-Mobile

so i recently tried out the lte apn setting on my n4 and boom!
the speeds arent THAT impressive, but considering that i was only getting on average 5-7 mb down,
this is a HUGE upgrade.
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Vzqsmooth56 said:
so i recently tried out the lte apn setting on my n4 and boom!
the speeds arent THAT impressive, but considering that i was only getting on average 5-7 mb down,
this is a HUGE upgrade.
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Hate to break this for ya, but your speedtests are HSPA+.

That's not lte its HSPA+ your upload speed isn't high.

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I managed to get a couple speedtests in before the network disappeared. These were taken near Pearland, which is just south of Houston, Tx with a N4.
@Milan I've been lurking in the threads over at howards, you seem to be well versed in this subject. Perhaps you know why i cant seem to stay connected for more than a few minutes.??:confused

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I managed to get a couple speedtests in before the network disappeared. These were taken near Pearland, which is just south of Houston, Tx with a N4.
@Milan I've been lurking in the threads over at howards, you seem to be well versed in this subject. Perhaps you know why i cant seem to stay connected for more than a few minutes.??:confused
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Neither can I. The LTE network isn't commercially live and T-Mo simply doesn't want us on it. I have no other explanation. They've had the security system implemented for a while, and if your device isn't provisioned for internal testing, you shouldn't be on. There is too much information we can gather from it, the amount of bandwidth used, frequency, and what they care mostly is the speeds. The speeds are their selling point, money makers, and what we're seeing when we connect is nowhere near what T-Mobile would like to have talked about.
To prove my point, remember the GigaOm, TmoNews story that popped up about 10 days ago covering my speedtests from Astoria, NYC, with speeds up to about 18mbps?
http://gigaom.com/2013/03/15/t-mobiles-lte-network-spotted-hiding-in-the-urban-jungles-of-nyc/
http://www.tmonews.com/2013/03/t-mobile-2/
Well, the next day T-Mobile called in a Press Briefing with CNET, LaptopMag, Verge and Engadget writers and setup an internal 2x10Mhz LTE cell site in NYC to showcase their speeds that were 62mbps.. http://www.cnet.com/8301-17918_1-57574614-85/t-mobile-equips-galaxy-note-2-with-fast-4g-lte-powers/ They've embargoed the story until monday morning at 9AM when all four blitzed the media. Bravo! :good:
Bottom line, they extremely care about their image which has been hurting, as their CEO has been announcing the best network since sliced bread. My speed tests weren't very hot and they had to prove their point.

3oudreaux said:
I managed to get a couple speedtests in before the network disappeared. These were taken near Pearland, which is just south of Houston, Tx with a N4.
@Milan I've been lurking in the threads over at howards, you seem to be well versed in this subject. Perhaps you know why i cant seem to stay connected for more than a few minutes.??:confused
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I've seen the lte network visable on my nexus 4 for close to 2 weeks now. Yet to allow me on but once or twice for all of a few seconds before kicking me off.

Yea that gots to be Hspa+ speeds thats too low for Lte
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milan03 said:
Neither can I. The LTE network isn't commercially live and T-Mo simply doesn't want us on it. I have no other explanation. They've had the security system implemented for a while, and if your device isn't provisioned for internal testing, you shouldn't be on. There is too much information we can gather from it, the amount of bandwidth used, frequency, and what they care mostly is the speeds. The speeds are their selling point, money makers, and what we're seeing when we connect is nowhere near what T-Mobile would like to have talked about.
To prove my point, remember the GigaOm, TmoNews story that popped up about 10 days ago covering my speedtests from Astoria, NYC, with speeds up to about 18mbps?
http://gigaom.com/2013/03/15/t-mobiles-lte-network-spotted-hiding-in-the-urban-jungles-of-nyc/
http://www.tmonews.com/2013/03/t-mobile-2/
Well, the next day T-Mobile called in a Press Briefing with CNET, LaptopMag, Verge and Engadget writers and setup an internal 2x10Mhz LTE cell site in NYC to showcase their speeds that were 62mbps.. http://www.cnet.com/8301-17918_1-57574614-85/t-mobile-equips-galaxy-note-2-with-fast-4g-lte-powers/ They've embargoed the story until monday morning at 9AM when all four blitzed the media. Bravo! :good:
Bottom line, they extremely care about their image which has been hurting, as their CEO has been announcing the best network since sliced bread. My speed tests weren't very hot and they had to prove their point.
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If that's the case they better get working on southeast Wisconsin. T-Mobile is horrible here constant switching to edge.
Another month of this and I'm going back to sprint.
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kthejoker20 said:
If that's the case they better get working on southeast Wisconsin. T-Mobile is horrible here constant switching to edge.
Another month of this and I'm going back to sprint.
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Hmmmm... Where are you at? Im in Racine and get pretty consistent hspa, same in Kenosha where I work. Only time I drop to edge is when I go into stores and such.

Where in Houston are you guys getting LTE and how? I live in Clear Lake/League City and can't seem to connect. Help please?

kthejoker20 said:
If that's the case they better get working on southeast Wisconsin. T-Mobile is horrible here constant switching to edge.
Another month of this and I'm going back to sprint.
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Wait, you're the one that said that lte.tmobile.com APN works and you're getting 7Mbps Up/Down. Were you joking?

i've noticed that some people have H+ what does it mean? mine always says H and average speed is around 12mbps which i find pretty fast for my needs although i wish i had better ping :laugh::laugh::laugh:
and btw i mostly spend my worthless life in Manhattan

probably on a stock rom possibly?

kthejoker20 said:
If that's the case they better get working on southeast Wisconsin. T-Mobile is horrible here constant switching to edge.
Another month of this and I'm going back to sprint.
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I have friends up in Grafton, WI i visit and I've noticed they expanded the 4g a LOT but now it appears grafton is just one big 2g dead zone. (Literally! on https://maps.eng.t-mobile.com/pcc-retail-default.php ) Just odd that they would take away a LOT of 2g coverage that's always been there!

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i've noticed that some people have H+ what does it mean?
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HSPA+ implemented on TMOUS as HSPA-42mbit. People call it HSPA-DC(Dual Channel)as well. Normally means faster speeds although the best I've seen on H+ is 14mbit.

This is in San Francisco I did have my LTE on but as you can see it's not getting LTE it's on hspa your 1900mhz band has probably been upgraded that's all, if you get LTE you should be seeing higher speeds
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dislplin01 said:
This is in San Francisco I did have my LTE on but as you can see it's not getting LTE it's on hspa your 1900mhz band has probably been upgraded that's all, if you get LTE you should be seeing higher speeds
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SJ is going to be a launch market in three days so it makes sense SF has it too.
From what I've been reading over on HowardForums, yeah when they install the 1900mhz HSPA gear it's probably LTE ready as well. From what my 3GS is showing me, I have 1900mhz HSPA here in LA but I doubt it's getting LTE for a long time...I remember it took almost a year until I got H+.

Project FI SIM roam to VZW/ATT/US Cellular when not in Sprint or T-Mobile coverge?

Has anyone noticed their FI SIM roam when off of sprint and t-mobile coverage?
I have a Nexus 6, 6p and 5x. When my FI SIM is in the 6P and N6 and I'm in sprint mode/CDMA mode and there is no sprint coverage I have noticed that talk/text and 3g data work just fine on both the VZW and the US Cellular networks.
Also when in T-Mobile mode/ GSM mode and there is no T-Mobile coverage, both talk/text and LTE/HSPA/Edge data work just fine on AT&T. Also if on AT&T I actually have mobile data while on a phone call!!!??
But on my 5x I have no roaming at all doesn't matter what I do. It will not work at all on any network except Sprint and T-mobile.
All 3 of the phones have been tried on various ROMS and kernels and that don't seem to make a difference. Currently on Chroma/Franco on all 3.
I use FI Switch by @dwithereIl and Signal Check PRO to switch between CDMA and GSM mode and to know what provider I am currently on.
What has been you experience?
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Interesting! What are the roaming data speeds?

oOflyeyesOo said:
Interesting! What are the roaming data speeds?
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3g and HSPA on VZW, US Cellular and AT&T are all quite bad. less then 1 meg generally. But usable. AT&T LTE however seems to be comparable to actual AT&T speeds. Only did one speed test on AT&T LTE and it was Band 4 and was about 10meg which was exactly what my actual AT&T phone was.

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Interesting! What are the roaming data speeds?
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Just now on HSPA. Real AT&T phone gets 8meg. FI, not so much lol

Damn, well at least it would be good in emergencies, in places with not good service. So do you usually roam on h+ on at&t, or LTE often?
Can you do a speed test on verizon roaming?

oOflyeyesOo said:
Damn, well at least it would be good in emergencies, in places with not good service.
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Yeah exactly! Something cool about paying 20$ +data and tax and having a single Sim that works with the 5 major providers in the USA. Talk and text works perfectly. Data works, just slow.

oOflyeyesOo said:
Damn, well at least it would be good in emergencies, in places with not good service. So do you usually roam on h+ on at&t, or LTE often?
Can you do a speed test on verizon roaming?
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Sorry, didn't read the rest of your question.. It doesn't seem to go to AT&T very well at all if there is either T-Mobile or Sprint coverage. But when there is neither of those it goes to AT&T LTE and HSPA no problems. Here is a speed test on VZW 3g... Now it says alltel, but that's actually VZW.. Used to be alltel up here in MI.

I have roamed with my Nexus 6 on GSM/ CDMA carriers.
-I have had no speed issues roaming on Verizon.
-On AT&T it said 3G however it was more like HSPA+

Harry44 said:
I have roamed with my Nexus 6 on GSM/ CDMA carriers.
-I have had no speed issues roaming on Verizon.
-On AT&T it said 3G however it was more like HSPA+
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With Google Project Fi or with an other provider?

crowsnestitsupport said:
With Google Project Fi or with an other provider?
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I am on Project Fi, sorry for not addressing that.

Harry44 said:
I am on Project Fi, sorry for not addressing that.
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No worries that's awesome! Glad it works for others too! Wish I could get it to work on my wife's 5x... Its really nice having 1 Sim that works on all carriers lol

crowsnestitsupport said:
No worries that's awesome! Glad it works for others too! Wish I could get it to work on my wife's 5x... Its really nice having 1 Sim that works on all carriers lol
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Oh absolutely. Project Fi and their SIM, and technology is amazing. On their own Sprint and T-Mobile service can be a bit dodgy. Combining the two has given me excellent service. I have only not had service in one area in the middle of nowhere. I was a dubious early early adopter. Two months later I dropped Verizon and went full time with Fi.

Harry44 said:
Oh absolutely. Project Fi and their SIM, and technology is amazing. On their own Sprint and T-Mobile service can be a bit dodgy. Combining the two has given me excellent service. I have only not had service in one area in the middle of nowhere. I was a dubious early early adopter. Two months later I dropped Verizon and went full time with Fi.
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For sure!! My wife and I both have FI and I've been impressed. No brainer if your not a heavy data user. I work in IT and am often in basements with no cell coverage an the WiFi talk and text is very very handy!!

crowsnestitsupport said:
For sure!! My wife and I both have FI and I've been impressed. No brainer if your not a heavy data user. I work in IT and am often in basements with no cell coverage an the WiFi talk and text is very very handy!!
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I'm pursuing a degree in IT at the moment!
Anyways, Right Wifi calling and texting is a godsend. I used to be a data hog but I have learned to download and pre-cache stuff and connect to Wifi more religiously. Sometimes my bills are as low as 25$

Harry44 said:
I'm pursuing a degree in IT at the moment!
Anyways, Right Wifi calling and texting is a godsend. I used to be a data hog but I have learned to download and pre-cache stuff and connect to Wifi more religiously. Sometimes my bills are as low as 25$
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Hey, best of luck to you!! Its an excellent industry to be in!! Growing like leaps and bounds!!
Can't beat that compared to the $60 - $80 you'd be giving to VZW

So just to be clear... when this roaming happens, is there any additional charge or is it billed at the same rate?

demarcmj said:
So just to be clear... when this roaming happens, is there any additional charge or is it billed at the same rate?
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I have been using Fi for several months now and have roamed to various providers numerous times and have not incurred any extra charges.

Very interesting. Thanks.

I havent had good luck with my N6 to get it to carrier jump... Any tips?

No VoLTE or VoWiFi for USA ROG Phone II

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Well, that stinks. It's a great device marred with a very silly decision. Guess mine is going back.

Yes it's a shame, so we have one t-mobile user with no luck, anyone with att try it yet? Or possibly another person with t mobile, just to repeat the experiment for consistency?

I am willing to switch to AT&T - in fact, would prefer to have my iPhone on one carrier, and my Android on another - but the support response doesn't make me hopeful.

Cellendril said:
I am willing to switch to AT&T - in fact, would prefer to have my iPhone on one carrier, and my Android on another - but the support response doesn't make me hopeful.
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You could bring it to att store, ask them to put a sim in see if it works with their store account, if it works gget the prepaid and switch over. They got a 65 plan that is 50 after u get auto pay. 22 gig high speed unlimited.
Maybe try, if they say no or doesn't work return it. I figure the phone specs are worth the attempt
Screnshot from u tube vid rog 2 with att

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Yes it's a shame, so we have one t-mobile user with no luck, anyone with att try it yet? Or possibly another person with t mobile, just to repeat the experiment for consistency?
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VoLTE works on the Chinese rom. I'm guessing next update will fix it in global rom (especially because a lot of folks are complaining about this). Wifi calling doesn't require any special hardware, so I'm guessing that's a possibility down the line if enough folks complain.
Phone nails all the basics (camera, screen, battery, performance), hopefully they add volte and wifi calling in the near future. Very close to perfection!

Email from Asus about Verizon just for fun
Thank you for contacting ASUS Customer Service. My name is Zavion S. I hope all is well. I am seeing here that you have an inquiry about the ROG Phone II supporting the Verizon network. I am more than happy to assist you in resolving this matter. The speculation of the ROG Phone II supporting the Verizon network is regrettably false as the final product will be unable to support it. It is compatible with GSM Networks including AT&T, T-Mobile, Straight Talk, Walmart Family Mobile, MetroPCS, Simple Mobile, Brightspot, Net10, h20 Wireless, and Cricket Wireless. I do apologize for any inconveniences cause and hope you have a wonderful day!

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Email from Asus about Verizon just for fun
Thank you for contacting ASUS Customer Service. My name is Zavion S. I hope all is well. I am seeing here that you have an inquiry about the ROG Phone II supporting the Verizon network. I am more than happy to assist you in resolving this matter. The speculation of the ROG Phone II supporting the Verizon network is regrettably false as the final product will be unable to support it. It is compatible with GSM Networks including AT&T, T-Mobile, Straight Talk, Walmart Family Mobile, MetroPCS, Simple Mobile, Brightspot, Net10, h20 Wireless, and Cricket Wireless. I do apologize for any inconveniences cause and hope you have a wonderful day!
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So barring any miracles or super secret work arounds, I'm out and back to square one. The Razer 2 has also been on my mind, but mostly because of the price ($350 at Best Buy) and it's still an LCD screen. If only LG would release something like the V20, but with updated specs. I'd take that even over the ROG II.

Mr_Mooncatt said:
So barring any miracles or super secret work arounds, I'm out and back to square one. The Razer 2 has also been on my mind, but mostly because of the price ($350 at Best Buy) and it's still an LCD screen. If only LG would release something like the V20, but with updated specs. I'd take that even over the ROG II.
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I would avoid the Razer cause only 845 processor and no aptx Bluetooth codex and camera is just so so. U less ur phone is like 6 years old better to wait for something with 855 plus processor with Android 10 and 11 proofing it

Mr_Mooncatt said:
So barring any miracles or super secret work arounds, I'm out and back to square one. The Razer 2 has also been on my mind, but mostly because of the price ($350 at Best Buy) and it's still an LCD screen. If only LG would release something like the V20, but with updated specs. I'd take that even over the ROG II.
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The LCD on the Razer is pretty darned good. I the phone overall is pretty solid. The drawbacks for me are mic when using speakerphone is wonky (introduced with MR0 update) and no aptX or LDAC. I use speakerphone a lot and most of my audio stuff is aptX HD or LDAC so gonna sell the Razer Phone 2 and evidently keep looking.

One plus 7t released, maybe you should get that loos pretty awesome no crappy pop up camera,, 855 plus t mobile will be selling it, 90hz display little less battery but slimmer I'm gonna prob get the McLaren edition the one that is still rumored lol

Just talked to support again. They reiterated no go for VoLTE and VoWifi on American carriers. Zip. Shame, as the phone is so good otherwise. What a helluva thing for them to disable.

Cellendril said:
Just talked to support again. They reiterated no go for VoLTE and VoWifi on American carriers. Zip. Shame, as the phone is so good otherwise. What a helluva thing for them to disable.
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It's like having a Ferrari, opening the gas tank for a fill up and finding a straw coming out. You pump gas and 2 percent goes in the rest falls to your feet,
. Yeah it will work but how many attempts, how far will you get how many disconnects. Tell them to remove the f ing straw haha

Cellendril said:
Just talked to support again. They reiterated no go for VoLTE and VoWifi on American carriers. Zip. Shame, as the phone is so good otherwise. What a helluva thing for them to disable.
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It's technically the carriers that disable it. It works fine on carriers in other countries using the same exact ROM image. The US carriers require payment to enable/test/certify those features and North American sales volume likely doesn't justify it for Asus' North American division.

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It's technically the carriers that disable it. It works fine on carriers in other countries using the same exact ROM image. The US carriers require payment to enable/test/certify those features and North American sales volume likely doesn't justify it for Asus' North American division.
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I used to work with carriers more than a decade ago. I had hoped this attitude would change. It's easy enough to isolate and block a rogue device - the concern back then. Also still baffling why Asus would disable - why not enable, and if the carrier lets it by, that's on the carrier, not Asus.

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I used to work with carriers more than a decade ago. I had hoped this attitude would change. It's easy enough to isolate and block a rogue device - the concern back then. Also still baffling why Asus would disable - why not enable, and if the carrier lets it by, that's on the carrier, not Asus.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/tmobile/co...one_2_does_support_volte_wifi_calling/e9pgamd

What about Google Voice? It would use data, but wouldn't it stay on LTE instead of dropping to 3g?

HiHungryImDad said:
What about Google Voice? It would use data, but wouldn't it stay on LTE instead of dropping to 3g?
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I tried this. Google Voice let's you choose between using your phone app to make calls or using a data connection. The data connection option sounds better.

This is incorrect !!! ATT is also going to HD Audio dio & VoLTE within the year - got f' email saying my ROG II (only 3 months old) will no longer be supported. I now have a "$1000 paperweight" - ASUS doesn't care, I have tried and now trying to get straight answer out of ATT.

Question 5G performance

This Pixel 7 is the first 5G capable phone I have owned. The 5G is so slow as to be unusable. I am in middle Tennessee and RedPocket is my provider, using the AT&T network. I have disabled 5G and my speed/connection is very good.
When 5G is enabled I do have a strong signal according to the signal meter icon. But pages load in "spurts". The browser will take several seconds to make the initial connection and then as the page loads it will pause while more data is downloaded. Using 4G pages load very quickly.
Is this because I'm using a MVNO (RedPocket) or is something else going on?

terry274 said:
Is this because I'm using a MVNO (RedPocket) or is something else going on?
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It could be either or both. MVNOs are de-prioritized which, depending on the network traffic where you are, could mean terrible speeds or speeds just as good as the provider's tier one post-pay accounts.
I, too, am new to 5G and using Boost (an AT&T MVNO) until the trial period runs out and I move to Mint (TMO). My 5G performance is fine; it's not faster or slower than the exact same 4G service from my Pixel 3.

I'm going to give Tello Mobile a try. They use the Tmobile network. I will report back.

I got activated with Tello using an esim. I've only used them a few minutes but everything looks good so far.

The issue with AT&T is that they don't use all of their brands for 5G so LTE can be much faster than 5G. T-Mobile has crazy good 5G speeds if you live where they have midband. I have Tello as well as SafeLink on AT&T and I have found that AT&T has better latency, T-Mobile has much better speeds, and AT&T tends to have the stronger signal in the Denver area as well.
I use my SafeLink pSIM for data and the Tello eSIM for everything else usually.

This was on my drive home over the weekend, going through Joplin, MO. Not too bad in a larger city. My P6 didn't hit 100 down just 2 weeks ago at the same spot.
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No problems here, with Cosmote carrier in Greece.
I would raise the issue of low speeds with my carrier

Apparently there was an update needed, my speed on the AT&T network is now as expected. I did not change anything (that I know of). I'm going to stick with RedPocket rather than Tello due to better coverage in my area with AT&T.

phoinix_gr said:
No problems here, with Cosmote carrier in Greece.
I would raise the issue of low speeds with my carrier
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This is a very low speed for a 5G network!

Elijah256 said:
This is a very low speed for a 5G network!
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Indeed. But 1Gbit in the air, is fine for me.

Just got the pixel 7 and my 5G is all over the place. I get 1 bar 5G UC, indicating poor signal but will go to full bars from time to time. Whats weird is that if i make a call or receive a call it will jump to full bars. If i switch from wifi to mobile or restart the phone it will give me full bars and drop to 1 bar soon after.
I've called tmobile and they had me upgrade to a new 5G sim but it didnt fix anything. My previous phone was OnePlus 8t 5G and had no issues with 5G. All other 5g phones at home get full bars, the tmobile tower is about 50 yards from my home.
Thinking about returning the phone and keeping the One Plus until Pixel 8 or until Pixel 7 issues are sorted out. I might try to get another Pixel 7 sent to me try out. This P7 has a August build date, maybe a more recent build will not have this issue.

After my Tello experiment my AT&T started working reliably. I would say give it a day and see if it gets sorted out.

wendellc said:
Just got the pixel 7 and my 5G is all over the place. I get 1 bar 5G UC, indicating poor signal but will go to full bars from time to time. Whats weird is that if i make a call or receive a call it will jump to full bars. If i switch from wifi to mobile or restart the phone it will give me full bars and drop to 1 bar soon after.
I've called tmobile and they had me upgrade to a new 5G sim but it didnt fix anything. My previous phone was OnePlus 8t 5G and had no issues with 5G. All other 5g phones at home get full bars, the tmobile tower is about 50 yards from my home.
Thinking about returning the phone and keeping the One Plus until Pixel 8 or until Pixel 7 issues are sorted out. I might try to get another Pixel 7 sent to me try out. This P7 has a August build date, maybe a more recent build will not have this issue.
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Is your service usable? Are your speeds acceptable? Bars mean nothing. We really should get rid of them in favor of something that just shows whether you have a network connection or not because these days with multiple carrier aggregation, bars are never correct.

rczrider said:
It could be either or both. MVNOs are de-prioritized which, depending on the network traffic where you are, could mean terrible speeds or speeds just as good as the provider's tier one post-pay accounts.
I, too, am new to 5G and using Boost (an AT&T MVNO) until the trial period runs out and I move to Mint (TMO). My 5G performance is fine; it's not faster or slower than the exact same 4G service from my Pixel 3.
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rczrider said:
It could be either or both. MVNOs are de-prioritized which, depending on the network traffic where you are, could mean terrible speeds or speeds just as good as the provider's tier one post-pay accounts.
I, too, am new to 5G and using Boost (an AT&T MVNO) until the trial period runs out and I move to Mint (TMO). My 5G performance is fine; it's not faster or slower than the exact same 4G service from my Pixel 3.
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Boost was Sprint, which has been swallowed up by T-Mobile and that CDMA network shut down. At this point Boost is T-Mobile, not ATT. If the phone you purchased was factory unlocked then you have been using 5G since day one, unless it defaults to 4G. If the phone is ATT phone then you would be better served by Cricket which uses the ATT network. Since you have a Google device why not go with Google Fi their plans are nominally priced. Although when they first started offering service they were trying to be something for everyone by using all gsm services. Most coverage is by T-MOBILE today.

rmergist said:
Boost was Sprint, which has been swallowed up by T-Mobile and that CDMA network shut down. At this point Boost is T-Mobile, not ATT. If the phone you purchased was factory unlocked then you have been using 5G since day one, unless it defaults to 4G. If the phone is ATT phone then you would be better served by Cricket which uses the ATT network. Since you have a Google device why not go with Google Fi their plans are nominally priced. Although when they first started offering service they were trying to be something for everyone by using all gsm services. Most coverage is by T-MOBILE today.
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Boost offers AT&T as well...
If you order from www.boostmobile.com it is T-Mobile. If you order from my.boostmobile.com or deals.boostmobile.com, it is AT&T. You can also tell by your SIM card - if it's orange or white, it's T-Mobile. If it's black, it's AT&T.
Boost's AT&T SIM even has one of the best deals around right now - 30GB for $25 a month with no need to buy multiple months and unlimited at 512kbps after that (which is actually usable). They even have an app that lets you watch ads and spin the prize wheel each day towards free service plus third party offers like installing and playing games. I've already racked up $38 worth of bill credits since I signed up on the 27th.

EtherealRemnant said:
Is your service usable? Are your speeds acceptable? Bars mean nothing. We really should get rid of them in favor of something that just shows whether you have a network connection or not because these days with multiple carrier aggregation, bars are never correct.
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service us usable but I've had a few drop signals.

wendellc said:
service us usable but I've had a few drop signals.
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It's weird that so many have reported this while so many of us have reported we don't have that problem. I have tried the phone on three different networks and have been pleased with the modem. I have the Pro though, maybe there's something different with the reception although I've seen complaints about it too.

I'm pulling almost 1200 mbps on TMobile by my house on p7.

I turned off 5G altogether and just use LTE because I was having intermittent data connection issues. I haven't had any connection issues since turning 5G off. Sucks but it is what it is, I guess. I'm on T-Mobile in a high 5G area as well.

AT&T may throttle your provider speed during peak time...test the area at different time of the day and see...why own this phone and use 4G or LTE...it almost a sin