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Hello Xda-ians,does anyone know the difference between the processors of MI5 variants.As the processor of the 32gb variant is clocked at 1.8 ghz and rest of the two variants are clocked at 2.1 ghz i want to know that whether the 32gb variant processor is only underclocked or is there any difference in architecture also
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Hello Xda-ians,does anyone know the difference between the processors of MI5 variants.As the processor of the 32gb variant is clocked at 1.8 ghz and rest of the two variants are clocked at 2.1 ghz i want to know that whether the 32gb variant processor is only underclocked or is there any difference in architecture also
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They are technically the same chip, just lower quality and as such they are underclocked. (someone please correct me if that's wrong)
I've got the 32GB 1.8GHz variant and have found it to be extremely fast. With a custom kernel we might be able to squeeze a little more juice out of too. Really looking forward to that.
Pretty sure they're the exact same chip just underclocked. Correct ME if I'm wrong.
if they are lower-binned chips, besides being underclocked, they could have higher voltages to maintain stable work on each of frequency steps.
Sorry for pushing this old thread.
I searched the Internet but didnt found any information to this subject. Anyone knows more about it meanwhile?
I dont want to buy the 32gb version if it means worse battery life.
I can't tell you much in a very scientific manner. However, I bought this phone following a recommendation from a friend. He has the 32gb underclocked version whereas I got the 128gb on sale . We compare numbers often and with similar usage, at the end of the day I have maybe 10% more battery left.
Again, this is very unscientific - for example, I don't have the Facebook app installed, whereas he does, and the battery menu points that app as a heavy battery drain.
We do have similar soc and data/Wi-Fi usage, if that helps.
Thanks for your answer, there doesnt seem to be a large difference in sot between the two variants, im getting around 10 hours sot.
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Thanks for your answer, there doesnt seem to be a large difference in sot between the two variants, im getting around 10 hours sot.
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10h sot ?? which rom and which kernel ?? I usually get around 5-6h sot.
so im thinking of buying the mi 8 SE 4gb variant to save some money, but first i have some questions.
what are the benefits of 6gb Ram variant over 4gb? i read its to keep several apps on the background running, but i don't open more than 4 apps, i think i just need one game that keeps running on the background. so.. is 4 ram more than enough for me? or does 6 ram improve something like gaming performance? i actually looking for a phone that can run the new heavy game: black desert mobile and i need it to keep running on background while i browse on youtube
second: is the snapdragon 710 can run heavy games like black desert mobile on max graphics settings without heating problems, lags, and framedrops? do you advice to max the graphics settings, does it drain lots of battery on max settings or only a bit?
and finally how big the gap between SD 710 and 845? i only need a phone that can perform very smoothly on heavy graphical games like black desert. is the SD 710 enough? is there big difference in performance? thank you for helping me decide which one to buy!
I have the same plan to purchase a Mi 8 SE but I'm worried that there will be no community for Mi 8 SE, because it used a different kind of chip.
Don't buy the 8SE. It's really nice for pricing but it will be the new Mi Note 3, bad bad support, a lot don:t care about it, because no FDD-LTE B20 (800MHz).
The 710 is good, really good, better than 820 but thats not the key. The RAM is not that fast and the ROM also not, so no UFS 2.0 or 2.1, just EMMC and this is much slower than UFS. I think for the normal user it's ok but you can not.compare 845 with UFS 2.1, it's much faster.
More RAM is better but 6GB are way too much! With my 6GB device I got 3,3GB free but like I sad, you never have too much.
If you looking for a good device, than wait a lil bit. Maybe Nokia will drop some good device but on the other way ~240€ for SP710 is more than good.
Actually, it has the same LPDDR4x RAM (I think at the same clocks too). Also, it features UFS 2.1. Performance-wise it is a fast device.
In my opinion, the 710 (6xA55+2A75) will be used in many devices in the future. I think it offers the best performance/efficiency/value ratio.
If you don't mind the lack of B20 and the slightly downgraded camera without OIS, go for it.
For me the 6gb ram variant is 300 euro and the 4Gb ram is 250 euro; I ordered the 6gb ram variant but I'm still thinking about whether I should cancel and get the 4GB instead. Is the 6Gb ram worth the price?
hello !
I went for the 4GB/32 model and am very happy with it. Upgraded from the Redmi 5 Plus and the A2 is fast as hell. In my country there is a 100 euro difference. I've looked around and saw that even the pixel 2 xl and samsung s9 have 4gb of ram and with stock android i'm sure that i won't have any bottlenecks. Also, I've made a habbit of changing phones after 12/18 months so I'm not worried.
It's my 3rd day using it, i have 0 complaints.
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I'm waiting for the 128/6 GB EU variant. Amazon germany only has the 4/32 variant (not enough storage space for me). Hopefully they will have it soon on their website. At the moment I'm not sure if I should buy the phone from a chinese site (e.g. Banggood) or from Amazon. At the chinese site I save ~50€, but I only have one year warranty. In the EU seller's are forced to give 2 years of warranty AFAIK (but I'n not entirely sure).
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i bought it from gearbest , 250 euro 4 gb /64 gb variant . In my experience warranty is useless
bartoloandre98 said:
i bought it from gearbest , 250 euro 4 gb /64 gb variant . In my experience warranty is useless
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Amazon returns broken devices without any troubles for me and you get your money back almost instantly
I got the 6/128GB version for £280 from a UK seller. Should be here in the next few days.
Edit: It's here....and I like it already. Very smooth, no bloat and feels nice in the hand. No tested camera or anything else as still at work.
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I got the 6/128GB version for £280 from a UK seller. Should be here in the next few days.
Edit: It's here....and I like it already. Very smooth, no bloat and feels nice in the hand. No tested camera or anything else as still at work.
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wow nice, still waiting, gearbest takes ages.
But is 6GB faster than 4GB?
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But is 6GB faster than 4GB?
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Why should it? You can leave more apps open. Depends a lot on how may apps you use at the same time and if those apps need to stay alive all the time.
All in all, more RAM means better multitasking but it will certainly not make the system faster. It may reduce app load times as they will be kept in memory longer but that's about it and only when you use a lot of apps at the same time.
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Why should it? You can leave more apps open. Depends a lot on how may apps you use at the same time and if those apps need to stay alive all the time.
All in all, more RAM means better multitasking but it will certainly not make the system faster. It may reduce app load times as they will be kept in memory longer but that's about it and only when you use a lot of apps at the same time.
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Okay thanks for your reply, 4GB. / 64GB will be ideal for me then
Cheers!
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But is 6GB faster than 4GB?
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It depends, more RAM help multi-tasking as reduces load times (at battery cost), but there are few apps memory hungry as Instagram and Facebook, those hardcore on Instagram would apretiate 6GB, also some web sites (web apps) are memory hungry, but in general 2GB extra wont make difference on common Android Apps even most games.
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It depends, more RAM help multi-tasking as reduces load times (at battery cost), but there are few apps memory hungry as Instagram and Facebook, those hardcore on Instagram would apretiate 6GB, also some web sites (web apps) are memory hungry, but in general 2GB extra wont make difference on common Android Apps even most games.
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Thank you!
hi guys, I'm thinking of buying a note 9 but I'm very undecided whether to take the model with 6 gb of ram or the one with 8gb, what do you recommend? battery consumption changes between the two models?
I have the 8 gb ram version. You can absolutely settle for the 6 gb. I have great battery life compared to my old Note 8
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babak said:
hi guys, I'm thinking of buying a note 9 but I'm very undecided whether to take the model with 6 gb of ram or the one with 8gb, what do you recommend? battery consumption changes between the two models?
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Man you don't even need 6gb.
Jammol said:
Man you don't even need 6gb.
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I always say "Get as much ram as you can get, computer, phone etc" Get as much as possible
oneandroidnut said:
I always say "Get as much ram as you can get, computer, phone etc" Get as much as possible
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I feel you. How long you planning on keep the Note 9?
If it's going to be a 2-3 year device then absolutely get the 8gb, I would get it anyway, but seeing as you asked.....:silly:
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hi guys, I'm thinking of buying a note 9 but I'm very undecided whether to take the model with 6 gb of ram or the one with 8gb, what do you recommend? battery consumption changes between the two models?
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I'd be less worried about the ram and more concerned with the storage. Do you pan on keeping the phone 1 year or 2? Capture a lot of video? If so, will a lot be 4k? Plan on using DEX?
If 128GB will serve you fine then save your money. If 512GB suits your needs better then by all means, get it. For the comments about RAM for a phone 6GB is plenty for this phone but would definitely see a tangible benefit if you use DEX. Also, if you have access to the expertise and resources, swapping out storage on a smartphone is much easier than swapping out RAM. It's not the hardest thing in the world to change your flash but it ain't easy and takes good eyesight and good hand eye coordination, not to mention the special hardware needed to get your phone flashed proper like from the factory.
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If it's going to be a 2-3 year device then absolutely get the 8gb, I would get it anyway, but seeing as you asked.....:silly:
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This ^^^^
In my case I always upgrade yearly, so wasn't worth it for me.
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babak said:
hi guys, I'm thinking of buying a note 9 but I'm very undecided whether to take the model with 6 gb of ram or the one with 8gb, what do you recommend? battery consumption changes between the two models?
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I went for the 8GB of RAM and waited 3 weeks past release day for it. The main reason I was set on the 8GB of RAM is because I had the S9+ which has 6GB of RAM and wanted to see if there was a difference and the only real reason to upgrade from the S9+ is the 8GB of RAM and larger battery, and I can tell you from personal experience I see NO DIFFERENCE in performance from the 6GB of RAM on the S9+ compared to the 8GB of RAM on the Note9 regarding how the phone performs. BUT I can tell you the battery life is superb on the Note9 compared to the S9+ and I love the larger screen. But your question was which RAM size, and I now I can without a shadow of doubt say 6GB of RAM and save yourself the extra $250.
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I feel you. How long you planning on keep the Note 9?
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year at the most probably. it has a lot to beat that the pixel 2 offers
I keep my devices till they die. I have one of the first Nexus 6p's and it is beyond dead so that's my only reason for upgrading. This is why i went 8gb in hopes to (somewhat/kinda) future proof myself.
Thanks guys, for me the storage volume of 512 GB does not make any sense and I prefer to use a micro sd that after every formatting does not delete everything copied the data stored.
If you say that between 6g of ram and 8gb there is not a substantial difference, then I take the 6gb and I hope that in view of future updates I do not regret.
You're not going to notice a performance difference unless you somehow figure out how to peg the RAM. RAM management in a smartphone and a computer are 2 totally different beasts. Where you might notice the difference though is the amount of apps you have open and how fast you can switch between apps instead of waiting for it to reload from storage. That is going to be the biggest benefit and probably not many of us will see it and that is a big difference, especially at how good Android is at multitasking. Plus two apps at once. And again, DEX probably has a noticeable difference with 2 extra GB handy.
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You're not going to notice a performance difference unless you somehow figure out how to peg the RAM. RAM management in a smartphone and a computer are 2 totally different beasts. Where you might notice the difference though is the amount of apps you have open and how fast you can switch between apps instead of waiting for it to reload from storage. That is going to be the biggest benefit and probably not many of us will see it and that is a big difference, especially at how good Android is at multitasking. Plus two apps at once. And again, DEX probably has a noticeable difference with 2 extra GB handy.
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for multitasking I find myself already very well with note8 (6gb ram), but the dilema is dex and check a pushed multitasking if it makes the difference, but I would like to be sure and not based only on the assumptions.
I have not tried myself as I don't have both versions. But on YouTube there are quite a few videos that show the 8GB version allows more apps to open. This has to be a huge plus especially if you end up using DEX a lot. I am still surprised at how useful Samsung made DEX. They turned Android into a very useful and friendly desktop experience. I don't have the itch yet, but am eager to see how well emulation works through DEX. That will be freaking awesome if no noticeable latency using a USB or Bluetooth controller.
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Thanks guys, for me the storage volume of 512 GB does not make any sense and I prefer to use a micro sd that after every formatting does not delete everything copied the data stored.
If you say that between 6g of ram and 8gb there is not a substantial difference, then I take the 6gb and I hope that in view of future updates I do not regret.
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4K 60 is recorded on internal storage. In fact I think it stores all 4k on internal. Not 100% sure though. Personally, 128gb fills up in around 3 months for me, so if you install lots of apps and games, and take lots of video, then 512gb is the way to go. It's never a good idea to rely only on SD surely. I haven't used an SD card in .. well.... 3 or 4 years.
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4K 60 is recorded on internal storage. In fact I think it stores all 4k on internal. Not 100% sure though. Personally, 128gb fills up in around 3 months for me, so if you install lots of apps and games, and take lots of video, then 512gb is the way to go. It's never a good idea to rely only on SD surely. I haven't used an SD card in .. well.... 3 or 4 years.
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Ok, but tell me this, every time you wip the phone if you do not make a backup first, you lose everything, so you explain to me what sense does it have a large storage if you also need to have a copy somewhere else?
for me it is simply ridiculous.
videos in 4k 60 also have a time limit, so I do not think that some videos create big files so they need a storage of the genre.
The only thing that interests me at the end is the ram.
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Ok, but tell me this, every time you wip the phone if you do not make a backup first, you lose everything, so you explain to me what sense does it have a large storage if you also need to have a copy somewhere else?
for me it is simply ridiculous.
videos in 4k 60 also have a time limit, so I do not think that some videos create big files so they need a storage of the genre.
The only thing that interests me at the end is the ram.
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I back up to my laptop, plenty of room there for storage. I also only wipe maybe once a year at best, when a problem occurs.
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I back up to my laptop, plenty of room there for storage. I also only wipe maybe once a year at best, when a problem occurs.
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even with my note8 I backup the computer, so what changes? only longer periods? no thanks.
We talk about ram and if price diffrence is justified.
as for the ram I do not find any tests on dex on the web
At the end of the day it comes down to you...
I personally, if I can afford it, get the biggest memory and RAM, simply due to prefering to having and not needing vs. needing and not having...
If you want to spend the extra $$$ then great otherwise don't. It can't hurt to have extra ram or storage and on my 8gb version I find DEX runs fine... It's more about heat than RAM... As the phone heats up I've had a few lags, but I use a 3rd party USB-c hub... Haven't played around with the dock as yet though I do have it...
So looking at the note 10 designs it looks like its going to have the hole punch. ( which I dont like)
At the moment the note 9 8gb version is on sale at £649. Trade in of my 6gb version will get me £340.
Is it worth the £309 price difference to get the extra ram and storage and the hybrid sim version bearing in mind I'm going to stick with the note 9 until at least the note 11?
Not in my opinion, I doubt you'd notice the extra ram that much and you could buy an SD card for much cheaper if you really needed extra storage.
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So looking at the note 10 designs it looks like its going to have the hole punch. ( which I dont like)
At the moment the note 9 8gb version is on sale at £649. Trade in of my 6gb version will get me £340.
Is it worth the £309 price difference to get the extra ram and storage and the hybrid sim version bearing in mind I'm going to stick with the note 9 until at least the note 11?
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In my opinion, it depends on what you do with your phone...
Do you play heavy games or daily basis activities?
If only daily basis activities (Email, Gmail, Word, Excel, Facebook, Reddit, Telegram or others) then 6GB would be enough, my opinion only.
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No, 6gb is enough
Save your money. Your existing note will be good until it dies. Companies keep adding minute changes to their "next flagships" to play with our minds to buy their new phones. They want your money is all it is. Keep your note 9. But it you have the extra cash then have at it.
I've had both and you absolutely cant tell a difference
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In my opinion, it depends on what you do with your phone...
Do you play heavy games or daily basis activities?
If only daily basis activities (Email, Gmail, Word, Excel, Facebook, Reddit, Telegram or others) then 6GB would be enough, my opinion only.
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That worked on you? You know it's all a gimmick right?
Jammol said:
That worked on you? You know it's all a gimmick right?
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Not sure why someone thinks the ram would effect game performance.. especially when going from 6gb to 8gb lol. I don't think most people know what ram really is or does honestly.
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Not sure why someone thinks the ram would effect game performance.. especially when going from 6gb to 8gb lol. I don't think most people know what ram really is or does honestly.
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Hum Does not affect games... right... well smart guy... please clarify us... and tell us what RAM is and how does this not affect games...
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Hum Does not affect games... right... well smart guy... please clarify us... and tell us what RAM is and how does this not affect games...
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Ram is random access memory and effects how many applications stay open in the background. If you're planning on running ten resource heavy games open at once maybe. Game performance would be much more heavily impacted by the GPU and CPU performance than by the amount of ram (which from 6 to 8gb would have no effect whatsoever I would guess). Unless you're planning on switching back and forth between two very intensive games I can't see why this would benefit you.
How about you instead tell me how it benefits game performance? Smart guy lol
I have 8/512 note 9, only reason is i need 2 things.. huuge storage and 2 sim cards...if no need for 2 sims i would get 6/128 and stick sd card inside
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Ram is random access memory and effects how many applications stay open in the background. If you're planning on running ten resource heavy games open at once maybe. Game performance would be much more heavily impacted by the GPU and CPU performance than by the amount of ram (which from 6 to 8gb would have no effect whatsoever I would guess). Unless you're planning on switching back and forth between two very intensive games I can't see why this would benefit you.
How about you instead tell me how it benefits game performance? Smart guy lol
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The current industry of smartphone tech reminds me of the PC age. Not to mention, when ram levels started increasing and folks kept closing out their background apps to "get the device to be faster." I still chuckle at those days.?
Jammol said:
The current industry of smartphone tech reminds me of the PC age. Not to mention, when ram levels started increasing and folks kept closing out their background apps to "get the device to be faster." I still chuckle at those days.?
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Or when they kept putting out higher and higher megapixel cameras because people thought megapixels = quality lol
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Or when they kept putting out higher and higher megapixel cameras because people thought megapixels = quality lol
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Manufacturers are trying to get us back to wanting more megapixels yet again; they got us hating bezels because our phone started to be good enough to keep for more than a year; they got us obsessed with the amount of RAM there is in our phones and how the CPU benchmarks. I've got a Note 9 and a Mi Max 3 and I honestly could happily use either of them day-to-day. Manufacturers in all industries have a duty to make us want to crave things, and they do a good job of it. To answer the question though - no the OP should not upgrade unless they have money to burn as RAM will have absolutely no difference on gaming performance or day-to-day performance - it's just a psychological up-sell to get people to get the 512GB model. Also did you really say you'd be effectively selling your Note for £349??
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Manufacturers are trying to get us back to wanting more megapixels yet again; they got us hating bezels because our phone started to be good enough to keep for more than a year; they got us obsessed with the amount of RAM there is in our phones and how the CPU benchmarks. I've got a Note 9 and a Mi Max 3 and I honestly could happily use either of them day-to-day. Manufacturers in all industries have a duty to make us want to crave things, and they do a good job of it. To answer the question though - no the OP should not upgrade unless they have money to burn as RAM will have absolutely no difference on gaming performance or day-to-day performance - it's just a psychological up-sell to get people to get the 512GB model. Also did you really say you'd be effectively selling your Note for £349??
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Yes that is the trade in price.
After reading lots of posts (as well as this one) about the 2 different models I'm going to stick with what I've got. I have a 256 sd card so I have plenty of storage and as regards ram unless your doing a speed test side by side I dont think I'm going to notice. I'm probably going to stick a sim only sim in September when my contract ends and hold out with the 9 until i either break it or something revolutionary comes out. Which i doubt.
Another thing that i think the 9 has in its favour is the fact that it DOES have a forehead and chin as when watching videos you dont cover any of the screen where as with a real edge to edge like the s10 and most probably the note 10 i think it will be an issue let alone the pesky hole punch!
Thanks for all the replies
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Or when they kept putting out higher and higher megapixel cameras because people thought megapixels = quality lol
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Yes that is the trade in price.
After reading lots of posts (as well as this one) about the 2 different models I'm going to stick with what I've got. I have a 256 sd card so I have plenty of storage and as regards ram unless your doing a speed test side by side I dont think I'm going to notice. I'm probably going to stick a sim only sim in September when my contract ends and hold out with the 9 until i either break it or something revolutionary comes out. Which i doubt.
Another thing that i think the 9 has in its favour is the fact that it DOES have a forehead and chin as when watching videos you dont cover any of the screen where as with a real edge to edge like the s10 and most probably the note 10 i think it will be an issue let alone the pesky hole punch!
Thanks for all the replies
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I sometimes use an older iPhone and I really do love the bezels as far as usability goes. All the newer phones lead to me catching UI elements - for example I'm a big YouTube watcher and the only phone I've used recently where I never accidently skip videos when moving my phone around is the iPhone. The other downside to bezels being removed is that phones really do all look pretty much the same now.
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clax6 said:
Yes that is the trade in price.
After reading lots of posts (as well as this one) about the 2 different models I'm going to stick with what I've got. I have a 256 sd card so I have plenty of storage and as regards ram unless your doing a speed test side by side I dont think I'm going to notice. I'm probably going to stick a sim only sim in September when my contract ends and hold out with the 9 until i either break it or something revolutionary comes out. Which i doubt.
Another thing that i think the 9 has in its favour is the fact that it DOES have a forehead and chin as when watching videos you dont cover any of the screen where as with a real edge to edge like the s10 and most probably the note 10 i think it will be an issue let alone the pesky hole punch!
Thanks for all the replies
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As for RAM, whatever anyone says, it has no bearing on actual application speed - all RAM does is hold applications in memory. Apps are flushed from memory according to space and the particular memory setup the manufacturer implements. Some manufacturers throw loads of RAM at their devices but their battery management is so brutal that it's almost worthless.
Google themselves think 4GB is enough, and cynicism aside, they do actually write the OS, which the manufacturers don't. If anyone knows how much RAM is necessary it's Google IMO. I can't think what would motivate them to think otherwise. Unless you have applications hogging loads of RAM, the worst you can expect with less RAM is that an application you had open a while back has to re-open again. With 6GB of RAM this should rarely be an issue, and many apps freeze their state anyway
Tend to agree that you likely wouldn't see much benefit with extra RAM and I certainly don't think extra 2Gb at a cost of £300 is good value.
That said I can see the appeal of 512Gb internal storage versus 128Gb
If you really want an 8Gb / 512Gb Note 9 then wait until Note 10 is on sale, I guarantee Note 9 price will fall significantly and the difference to upgrade to 8Gb / 512Gb Note 9 will likely be less expensive.
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its a pickup right?
like the ones people like to have "in case they need to hull stuff" which happens 2 x every 5 years.
or like when constructions workers think they need a pickup because coming to work in a car is so unprofessional but unfortunately everyone knows ure not aloud to use your own personal machinery on construction sites.
or even: pollution on 4 wheels?
lol ok jokes over.
You won't notice any difference between the 6GB and the 8GB models
clax6 said:
So looking at the note 10 designs it looks like its going to have the hole punch. ( which I dont like)
At the moment the note 9 8gb version is on sale at £649. Trade in of my 6gb version will get me £340.
Is it worth the £309 price difference to get the extra ram and storage and the hybrid sim version bearing in mind I'm going to stick with the note 9 until at least the note 11?
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Monitor your memory usage. If you never approach 6GB utilization, then you'll never gain anything with an extra two GB. Have you filled 128 GB with content you couldn't put on a $50 SD card?