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Will Nexus 6 get OTA updates if rooted and custom recovery is installed?

I'm new to the nexus line. Just wondering if OTA updates will work after rooting my device or do I have to return to stock to get the update? Currently I'm rooted stock , decrypted, and TWRP recovery installed. Should I return to full stock locked or what?

gwojo22 said:
I'm new to the nexus line. Just wondering if OTA updates will work after rooting my device or do I have to return to stock to get the update? Currently I'm rooted stock , decrypted, and TWRP recovery installed. Should I return to full stock locked or what?
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ive hear any alteration on the system files will stop the ota from installing. i assume that means recovery as well

gwojo22 said:
I'm new to the nexus line. Just wondering if OTA updates will work after rooting my device or do I have to return to stock to get the update? Currently I'm rooted stock , decrypted, and TWRP recovery installed. Should I return to full stock locked or what?
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shelooga said:
ive hear any alteration on the system files will stop the ota from installing. i assume that means recovery as well
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sheloga is correct. You'd have to revert back to full stock or wait for someone to make a flashable zip.

Can't you just flash the stock recovery and take the OTA? Or do you have to fully unroot and reflash the factory image?

I would like to pay close attention time to this thread because that is one is the main questions that I have. I hear so many different solutions towards this. I usually wait for a flashable zip but I would want to see someone either wrote a write up or make a video. Subscribed.

My understanding (from looking at the lollipop OTA updater-script) is it checks EVERY file for changes, including other partitions. You must be 100% stock with nothing extra in system (SuperSU apk or busybox etc).

gwojo22 said:
I'm new to the nexus line. Just wondering if OTA updates will work after rooting my device or do I have to return to stock to get the update? Currently I'm rooted stock , decrypted, and TWRP recovery installed. Should I return to full stock locked or what?
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get and being able to apply are two differing things. unless you make it so you cant receive, then you will get an ota. problem is, that you will not be able to apply the update. 1. you can flash the factory img. 2. you can wait for someone to upload a flashable zip. 3. or you can do what most noobs do, and waste your time. what most noobs do is unroot, and flash the stock recovery, then wait for the update.

BLUF: wait until OTA is made available in a recovery flash method. 90% of the time the OTA updates are patching security holes and other less important features.
Having been with a handful of different android devices in the past several years, I've always gone the route of flashing from recovery vs. OTA.
The LG G3 for example had an OTA just recently that broke rooting. It was fixed by a Dev, but that's the only update found in OTA.
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Once you root the phone you cannot receive OTA updates. However, you arent out of luck when updates are released. Because you have a custom recovery, its easy to just download the update file when its released and install it that way. Once the AOSP updates are uploaded from Google, its all yours. Most people who dont receive their OTA and dont have a custom recovery will typically install it on their own but using ADB.

simms22 said:
get and being able to apply are two differing things. unless you make it so you cant receive, then you will get an ota. problem is, that you will not be able to apply the update. 1. you can flash the factory img. 2. you can wait for someone to upload a flashable zip. 3. or you can do what most noobs do, and waste your time. what most noobs do is unroot, and flash the stock recovery, then wait for the update.
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I read in one of RootSU's threads (I think) that as of Lollipop, OTA via ADB sideload is the only option to apply an update. Any thoughts?

wvcadle said:
I read in one of RootSU's threads (I think) that as of Lollipop, OTA via ADB sideload is the only option to apply an update. Any thoughts?
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no thoughts.
i just flash aosp hours after it appears there. or just wait for @rascarlo to add it to his rom, then i flash

HyperM3 said:
Because you have a custom recovery, its easy to just download the update file when its released and install it that way. Once the AOSP updates are uploaded from Google, its all yours. Most people who dont receive their OTA and dont have a custom recovery will typically install it on their own but using ADB.
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wvcadle said:
I read in one of RootSU's threads (I think) that as of Lollipop, OTA via ADB sideload is the only option to apply an update. Any thoughts?
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After Android 5.0, you can't sideload the OTA file if you have made any changes to the system partition. You need to be completely stock to take OTA. You can just download the new factory images and extract the various img files from it and just flash those manually in ADB, thereby overwriting your modified system partition with the new factory system image (you can skip overwriting the userdata if you want to preserve your data). No need to revert back to stock (old image) and then take OTA - unnecessary step.

HyperM3 said:
Once you root the phone you cannot receive OTA updates. However, you arent out of luck when updates are released. Because you have a custom recovery, its easy to just download the update file when its released and install it that way. Once the AOSP updates are uploaded from Google, its all yours. Most people who dont receive their OTA and dont have a custom recovery will typically install it on their own but using ADB.
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I understand what your saying. Is there any difference between the OTA and AOSP? Like modem or kernel? I actually like the stock on this device. It seems like there are problems with the AOSP ROMS that are available now such as Netflix and Play Movies not working.
I'm coming from Samsung devices which were completely different as far as rooting and return to stock. I would go to SamMobile to get the stock firmware on my Galaxy S5. Where do I find stock firmware for the nexus?

gwojo22 said:
I understand what your saying. Is there any difference between the OTA and AOSP? Like modem or kernel? I actually like the stock on this device. It seems like there are problems with the AOSP ROMS that are available now such as Netflix and Play Movies not working.
I'm coming from Samsung devices which were completely different as far as rooting and return to stock. I would go to SamMobile to get the stock firmware on my Galaxy S5. Where do I find stock firmware for the nexus?
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From google
https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images

hlxanthus said:
From google
https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images
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How does one do this on a Mac? Could you perhaps link us? All I'm finding is guides for windows unfortunately

waqar.qu said:
How does one do this on a Mac? Could you perhaps link us? All I'm finding is guides for windows unfortunately
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You need to install ADB and fastboot. After that, you can use the 'fastboot' command directly from Terminal. I've found that the easiest way to update Lollipop on my Nexus 6 is to:
Download image from Google
Decompress the archive, AND the second archive which was contained within the first one. Note: The recovery, boot, and system images are in the second archive.
Open Terminal, change directory to the extracted folder, and run these commands (they skip overwriting the userdata partition):
fastboot flash bootloader <bootloader file name here>.img
fastboot flash radio <radio file name here>.img
fastboot reboot-bootloader (VERY IMPORTANT TO DO THIS STEP)
fastboot flash recovery recovery.img
fastboot flash boot boot.img
fastboot flash system system.img
fastboot reboot
You need to restore root at this point; you can use these instructions if you're unfamiliar with the procedure.

[Q] Returning to un-rooted 5.0 on XT1095?

I'm assuming that since I've rooted my Pure Edition that once the official 5.1 OTA comes it will fail to install just like 5.0-5.02 on my N7 did. I'm wondering how I can get back to unrooted without wiping the phone out (if that's possible). I can't seem to find the factory 5.0 image at the Motorola site so right now I'm assuming I'll have to install the 4.4..4 image and then let the OTA's roll in?
When I ran into this on my N7 other than rooting the only system installed app I had added in was better battery stats and removing root and getting rid of (at least I think I got rid of it) BBS the OTA failed still and I had to just flash the system.img from the factory image. On my XT1095 I only have SuperSU installed. I never installed BBS or any other new apps as system apps so maybe telling SuperSU to unroot and clean up will work?

Maybe I'm wrong, but I was under the impression you could still receive the OTA with root as long as you were on stock recovery, you would just lose root access in the process. I could be way off, though. I have always had TWRP on my rooted phones. I am pretty confident that you cannot switch back to stock recovery from TWRP without wiping. You can always use Helium Pro to back everything up. Unlike TiBu, it does not require root. Or you could just wait on someone to release a .zip of the OTA and flash it manually.

Paddington said:
Maybe I'm wrong, but I was under the impression you could still receive the OTA with root as long as you were on stock recovery, you would just lose root access in the process. I could be way off, though. I have always had TWRP on my rooted phones. I am pretty confident that you cannot switch back to stock recovery from TWRP without wiping. You can always use Helium Pro to back everything up. Unlike TiBu, it does not require root. Or you could just wait on someone to release a .zip of the OTA and flash it manually.
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It used to be that way before 5.0. Something changed in 5.0+ and now if certain parts of the file system are off at all from stock, OTA will fail. That's why I mentioned the example of my Nexus 7 failing the update from 5.0 to 5.02. I don't know if Motorola is keeping the same kinds of checks as Nexus OTA's though. I do still have the stock recovery. If I need TWRP for something I just temporarily boot it with fastboot instead.

Any luck with this? I too would like to unroot. Still stock recovery.

flyinion said:
I can't seem to find the factory 5.0 image at the Motorola site
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Here you go:
http://www.graffixnyc.com/motox.php
flyinion said:
so right now I'm assuming I'll have to install the 4.4..4 image and then let the OTA's roll in?:cyclops:
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No, 4.4.4 won't boot with the 5.0 boot.img. And NEVER attempt to downgrade the bootloader (motoboot.img) or partition table (gpt.bin) of a Motorola Moto X. These are NOT Nexus devices.

Thanks very much! So...in an abundance of caution, I should be able to flash boot.img and that will get rid of root? Or system.img too? And neither of those affect my data? Edit: I am rooted on 22.21.11 XT1095 with stock recovery
Hmm. Not available on that site anymore but found it at http://motofirmware.center/files/file/76-tmo_xt1095_50_lxe2246-11_cid9_cfcxmlzip/

Mnemoch said:
Thanks very much! So...in an abundance of caution, I should be able to flash boot.img and that will get rid of root? Or system.img too? And neither of those affect my data? Edit: I am rooted on 22.21.11 XT1095 with stock recovery
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Just flash 5.0 system.img that is all you need unless you flashed a custom kernel
Personally I would not take the OTA - I would use Motorola Device Manager to update. If you are rooted you can uninstall MotorolaOTA and then when people report the OTA is being pushed, flash system back to stock and then let MDM update you - you will have a copy of the 5.1 fxz on your computer then.

Thanks for the advice, I will check out MDM and yes, waiting for the OTA to be published officially.
That other link I posted for the full image file was corrupt, but I found http://graffixnyc.com/development/motox2014/lollipop/22.21.11/ which has system.img available. But this is huge! Does it seem correct to you by any chance? Should be able to flash without losing my data?
JulesJam said:
Just flash 5.0 system.img that is all you need unless you flashed a custom kernel
Personally I would not take the OTA - I would use Motorola Device Manager to update. If you are rooted you can uninstall MotorolaOTA and then when people report the OTA is being pushed, flash system back to stock and then let MDM update you - you will have a copy of the 5.1 fxz on your computer then.
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Thanks guys, I did find the image and had downloaded it from that link a while back. I also picked up the mfastboot tool, but I'm not sure how to use it to flash a system.img. That download has a bunch of system.img_sparsechunk.n files where .n is a number from 0-7 but there's no "base" system.img file. Do I just tell it to flash file 0 and it will pick up the rest of them automatically?

flyinion said:
Thanks guys, I did find the image and had downloaded it from that link a while back. I also picked up the mfastboot tool, but I'm not sure how to use it to flash a system.img. That download has a bunch of system.img_sparsechunk.n files where .n is a number from 0-7 but there's no "base" system.img file. Do I just tell it to flash file 0 and it will pick up the rest of them automatically?
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No you have to do each 1 at a time. Regular fastboot can flash the sparsechunks - you only need mfastboot if the image is a single file.
fastboot flash system sparsechunk0
then when it is done
fastboot flash system sparsechunk1
until you have flashed them all

JulesJam said:
No you have to do each 1 at a time. Regular fastboot can flash the sparsechunks - you only need mfastboot if the image is a single file.
fastboot flash system sparsechunk0
then when it is done
fastboot flash system sparsechunk1
until you have flashed them all
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Ah ok, I thought I needed mfastboot from what I was able to read around here. So the standard fastboot that comes with the android sdk can be used on the chunks?

Actually I think maybe I understand now. I read something a little bit ago about the difference between fastboot and mfastboot (Motorola Fastboot) and that the latter was created due to a file size limitation with the original fastboot. It didn't go into more detail than that. My assumption instantly was motorola was splitting the system image up into chunks and created that new fastboot to handle that. Seems it's the other way around? Google's fastboot can handle chunks and Moto's can handle a single image that is larger than what the standard fastboot can so they don't have to split it up in the first place?

Which download has chunks, the zip that we can't download any more or the system.img that I found? Should I try to extract it?
flyinion said:
Actually I think maybe I understand now. I read something a little bit ago about the difference between fastboot and mfastboot (Motorola Fastboot) and that the latter was created due to a file size limitation with the original fastboot. It didn't go into more detail than that. My assumption instantly was motorola was splitting the system image up into chunks and created that new fastboot to handle that. Seems it's the other way around? Google's fastboot can handle chunks and Moto's can handle a single image that is larger than what the standard fastboot can so they don't have to split it up in the first place?
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Mnemoch said:
Which download has chunks, the zip that we can't download any more or the system.img that I found? Should I try to extract it?
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Oh, the one that doesn't work anymore. I downloaded it a few weeks ago. Not sure when it got taken offline since the link is there, but yeah I see the download doesn't work any longer. If you have just a single system.img and not a bunch of system.img_sparsechunk.n files then you have a different image.

Anyone unrooted since the OTA came out?

JulesJam said:
No you have to do each 1 at a time. Regular fastboot can flash the sparsechunks - you only need mfastboot if the image is a single file.
fastboot flash system sparsechunk0
then when it is done
fastboot flash system sparsechunk1
until you have flashed them all
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Anyone use this process to unroot stock 22.21.11?
And if so, did you get and take the 5.1 OTA or did you sideload it?
Thanks

eKeith said:
Anyone use this process to unroot stock 22.21.11?
And if so, did you get and take the 5.1 OTA or did you sideload it?
Thanks
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Unrooting using this method does work!

Maybe unrelated, but in my confusion as to what's going on, is it at all possible to flash the 5.1 ota update over a custom rom? I'm currently on resurrection remix that's running on 5.1.1, but I really want to go back to stock. Thanks in advance.

dcdrew713 said:
Maybe unrelated, but in my confusion as to what's going on, is it at all possible to flash the 5.1 ota update over a custom rom? I'm currently on resurrection remix that's running on 5.1.1, but I really want to go back to stock. Thanks in advance.
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Not possible. You have to flash the stock rom first, then take the ota.
Sent from my XT1095 using Tapatalk

Any idea what stock rom to use? 5.0? Sorry, I'm not the best with this stuff anymore, haha.

[Q] OTA 5.1 Update file location?

So I received a notification to download the 5.1 update this morning on my rooted Nexus 6. I proceeded to click download and then install.
However, due to that I had TeamWin recovery installed the update failed on reboot. (didn't even try to install)
Now when I click on "Check for updates" in About in System Settings menu. It says that there are no new updates??? Even though it failed to install.
Does anyone know where the update is stored on the device before installation? Maybe i need to remove it before it will try and update again? (now that i have flashed stock recovery)
Any help would be very appreciated.

You need to unroot too.
Ota can be downloaded online.

d1wepn said:
So I received a notification to download the 5.1 update this morning on my rooted Nexus 6. I proceeded to click download and then install.
However, due to that I had TeamWin recovery installed the update failed on reboot. (didn't even try to install)
Now when I click on "Check for updates" in About in System Settings menu. It says that there are no new updates??? Even though it failed to install.
Does anyone know where the update is stored on the device before installation? Maybe i need to remove it before it will try and update again? (now that i have flashed stock recovery)
Any help would be very appreciated.
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Once you remove root, try pulling your Sim and rebooting. Let the phone sit, without Sim, and see if update reappears.

rootSU said:
You need to unroot too.
Ota can be downloaded online.
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I was hoping to use the factory OTA update method for a change. (Always manually update) But might just be easier.
Downloading OTA now. Thanks for the advice rootSU

Evolution_Freak said:
Once you remove root, try pulling your Sim and rebooting. Let the phone sit, without Sim, and see if update reappears.
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Might give this a try first. Worth a shot. Cheers mate.

OTA update downloads to system/cache folder ... It may get deleted soon after you try installing and restart the phone. You need rooted phone and a file explorer like es file explorer for accessing system folder.
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Check first whether you have it in your phone already. Rooted phone go to /cache folder you'll find something.Zip there.

Ok so i managed to get the phone to download the OTA again and attempted to install it again. This time with stock recovery.
Everything was looking good but it fails with "error" below the android logo.
Any ideas?

Sorry I can't help you. I don't want that AT&T 5.1 update. So I did what you did and hit install. It of course didn't. I use TWRP also. But the damn 5.1 update is back!
Tappin from my Nexus 6

Any reason you want the OTA? you can install the factory image from here and get the same result without mucking around...
https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images

Gage_Hero said:
Any reason you want the OTA? you can install the factory image from here and get the same result without mucking around...
https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images
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Using a stock image will wipe the device each time. The posters question is even more valid now since Google's doing security patches every month.
I have the same issue & I wasn't able to find the .zip in /cache

Rocky1988 said:
Using a stock image will wipe the device each time. The posters question is even more valid now since Google's doing security patches every month.
I have the same issue & I wasn't able to find the .zip in /cache
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You only need to flash the system.img file within the Google image using fastboot.
After that, boot into TWRP and reflash SuperSU, XPosed, and anything else you've flashed that resides in /system.
Wipe caches and reboot. Easy, and no app or data loss.

Rocky1988 said:
Using a stock image will wipe the device each time. The posters question is even more valid now since Google's doing security patches every month.
I have the same issue & I wasn't able to find the .zip in /cache
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um.. you are quite a bit late. this is an old thread, look at the dates. you responded to a question thats 6 month old.

liquidzoo said:
You only need to flash the system.img file within the Google image using fastboot.
After that, boot into TWRP and reflash SuperSU, XPosed, and anything else you've flashed that resides in /system.
Wipe caches and reboot. Easy, and no app or data loss.
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Except, to be more complete, it might be a good idea to flash everything except data and boot - that is, in case changes are made to radio or anything else, but if changes are done to boot and are required for system or kernel and you don't put stock boot, you're kinda screwed (you'd need a different version of twrp in this case and it probably won't be out).
My point, there really is no complete way to know if flashing just system is enough to get all the security updates unless you look at what the update replaces. That's why I'm looking for the ota.zip

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Except, to be more complete, it might be a good idea to flash everything except data and boot - that is, in case changes are made to radio or anything else, but if changes are done to boot and are required for system or kernel and you don't put stock boot, you're kinda screwed (you'd need a different version of twrp in this case and it probably won't be out).
My point, there really is no complete way to know if flashing just system is enough to get all the security updates unless you look at what the update replaces. That's why I'm looking for the ota.zip
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And thankfully Google put version numbers to the other files so takes about 15 seconds to realise you only need to flash system. If a change was made to radio you can still flash in exactly the same way as the system and not lose data...

Amos91 said:
And thankfully Google put version numbers to the other files so takes about 15 seconds to realise you only need to flash system. If a change was made to radio you can still flash in exactly the same way as the system and not lose data...
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How do you check version numbers for the other files? This may be what I'm after!

Rocky1988 said:
Using a stock image will wipe the device each time. The posters question is even more valid now since Google's doing security patches every month.
I have the same issue & I wasn't able to find the .zip in /cache
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I'm unable to find the latest update in the /system folder (/system/cache doesn't exist on my device) or the /cache folder either.

/data/data/com.google.android.gms/app_download/update.zip

d1wepn said:
Ok so i managed to get the phone to download the OTA again and attempted to install it again. This time with stock recovery.
Everything was looking good but it fails with "error" below the android logo.
Any ideas?
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Use Flashify to install OTA updates instead.

At last i found it
I have clock work recovery installed on my phone. It refuses to update my OTA factory software update, i searched for it and installed it manually. It was in /data/data/com.tinno.systemupdate/files/googleota/0/update.zip

Update Available 2.19.401.2

Here you can download OTA, fresh firmware or system image to update your device.
OTA_M8_MINI_UL_K44_SENSE60_HTC_Europe_2.19.401.2-2.18.401.3_release_448048.zip [41.2 MB]
firmware.zip only [19.6 MB]
2.19.401.2_boot_system_2015-09-21--20-48-04_KOT49H.zip [TWRP] [1.15 GB]
Downloads: mega
​Let's see what's underneath
Main difference, I believe, is a security fix (libStageFright). I assume, that's it:
/system/framework/android.policy.jar
/system/framework/conscrypt.jar
/system/framework/framework3.jar
/system/lib/modules/moc_crypto.ko.sig.3.4.10
Zip also contains lots of *.p files (odexes, apk, jars mainly). Viewable through windows explorer. Don't know, what's that. Looks like a hash or a signature.
OTA includes firmware.zip containing {boot, hboot, recovery}, which can be opened through WinRAR (7Zip 15β failed). If you want just firmware, take it. Should be fastboot flashable.
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Next lines describe my experience before I returned the device state to nearly stock.
Hello there. )
Want to share my experience. I have 2.18.401.3 and got promt to upgrade to 2.19.401.2.
Basically, as I get it, you need original recovery and that's it. (Pushed original kernel just in case. Also device is unlocked (tampered))
But under updating process the script mechanism checks some files to be original. Many system odexes, framework stuff and some libs.
My update failed on checking Books.odex (meanwhile, this app was deleted and redownloaded as user-app)
So, I might try to edit updater-script later or just copy files from update to folders they belong. The ota got a simple and obvious updater script for people who used to deal with them before. I'm considering delete parsing part or just push on screen what gives fail, but let updating happen. Need to be tested with system backup.

city2026 said:
OTA_M8_MINI_UL_K44_SENSE60_HTC_Europe_2.19.401.2-2.18.401.3_release_448048.zip [41.2 MB]
Download: mega
Let's see what's underneath
Main difference, I believe, is a security fix (libStageFright). I assume, that's it:
/system/framework/android.policy.jar
/system/framework/conscrypt.jar
/system/framework/framework3.jar
/system/lib/modules/moc_crypto.ko.sig.3.4.10
Zip also contains lots of *.p files (odexes, apk, jars mainly). Viewable through windows explorer.
OTA includes firmware.zip containing {boot, hboot, recovery}, which can be opened through WinRAR (7Zip 15β failed).
*Additional notes*
Hello there. )
Want to share my experience. I have 2.18.401.3 and got promt to upgrade to 2.19.401.2.
Basically, as I get it, you need original recovery and that's it. (Pushed original kernel just in case. Also device is unlocked (tampered))
But under updating process the script mechanism checks some files to be original. Many system odexes, framework stuff and some libs.
My update failed on checking Books.odex (meanwhile, this app was deleted and redownloaded as user-app)
So, I might try to edit updater-script later or just copy files from update to folders they belong. The ota got a simple and obvious updater script for people who used to deal with them before. I'm considering delete parsing part or just push on screen what gives fail, but let updating happen. Need to be tested with system backup.
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My update stopped for "basicdreams.odex". If you are able to get the update flashed do let the community know

TWRP system backup added
csoulr666 said:
My update stopped for "basicdreams.odex". If you are able to get the update flashed do let the community know
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I tried to update from recent backup (the one before I changed kernel and deleted system apps), but facebook.odex didn't let me.
Finally, the very first backup did it. I took only system and boot, switched twrp recovery to htc, skipped all setup and installed OTA over fresh system.
Here you go. Now you have TWRP image of this update.
BTW, kernel version is different. CL build number is the same.

Hi,
can't I just flash it somehow with TWRP?
The standard update way does not work for me, because of changed *.odex files.
Already tried to flash original recovery etc.
Thanks

ash0r said:
Hi,
can't I just flash it somehow with TWRP?
The standard update way does not work for me, because of changed *.odex files.
Already tried to flash original recovery etc.
Thanks
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Unfortunately you cannot flash this with TWRP.

Is there a possibility to install this update (or any OTA updates) without having a "not-touched" system?
I could of course flash the TWRP recovery (what I've already done - it worked) but in that case I lose all my modifications. Is it possible to restore the TWRP recovery from that post and afterwards restore my own recovery without overwriting the system files which are needed to be up to date?
Thanks

ash0r said:
Is there a possibility to install this update (or any OTA updates) without having a "not-touched" system?
I could of course flash the TWRP recovery (what I've already done - it worked) but in that case I lose all my modifications. Is it possible to restore the TWRP recovery from that post and afterwards restore my own recovery without overwriting the system files which are needed to be up to date?
Thanks
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You can try to restore the TWRP backup in the post. And yes, you will lose every mod since it is a backup of the stock, unrooted firmware.
The main problem of flashing the OTA zip would be that you will have to relock the bootloader before installing . So if you unlock it again, the internal storage will be wiped. The best way is to backup everything(Including the internal storage) and then proceed.

Actually, you can save your data while upgrading from non-worthy stock.
So, you may do this
Full backup, you never know what can go wrong.
Save or make a note of what you changed by yourself in system (from busybox to xposed & various modes.). You may use TB for sys-apps and simple file copying for modes. *
Restore updated system image from 1st post, so you have updated system.
See if it worked out and restore/reinstall your other system stuff.
* Remember, you still may access files of your twrp backup images through some archiver. Like I do using 7-Zip.
It's very important to save backup somewhere, cause it might be that my image can be not absolutely clean or can be not absolute right for your phone (like sell location difference). So it'll be easy to return back to working machine.
For this purposes I also setted up my TB for daily auto-backup of texts and settings and weekly backup of apps.
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Don't sure about relock for upgrading. It seems to be launching, but it needs pure system and original boot & recovery. Some fastboot-magic helps here. That's how I did it after restoring to the very first backup.

So I have build number 2.18.161.3 rooted software on Vodafone, and received an OTA update build number 2.18.161.5-2.18.161.3. Obviously when I come to update it it goes to my custom recovery and can't go any further.
A couple of queries though I wanted to delete all the bloatware from my stock rom, after rooting I found I needed to S-Off as the bloatware keeps coming back on reboot so here are my queries.
Can I delete the APK files from the new OTA update and will this remove them if I install the OTA as a zip through custom recovery. Or can I use this update to wipe the bloatware from it all advice would be helpful

The Watergod said:
So I have build number 2.18.161.3 rooted software on Vodafone, and received an OTA update build number 2.18.161.5-2.18.161.3. Obviously when I come to update it it goes to my custom recovery and can't go any further.
A couple of queries though I wanted to delete all the bloatware from my stock rom, after rooting I found I needed to S-Off as the bloatware keeps coming back on reboot so here are my queries.
Can I delete the APK files from the new OTA update and will this remove them if I install the OTA as a zip through custom recovery. Or can I use this update to wipe the bloatware from it all advice would be helpful
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For bloatware removal just push a custom boot.img. Liberty kernel or dt2w presented here works fine, you may try them at least with making a backup of original kernel at first. (Custom made kernel might give you permission to write to /system without being s-off.)
I used liberty one, recently flashed the one with double tap to wake, works perfectly fine. Even sd is fine.
I'm not into kernels, perhaps as long as they suit your device they are fine.
OTA have its script, if it has such strings or if you write it into the script, you may delete some apps. Maybe, didn't try nothing with ota scripting. It easier to find working universal bloatware removal script as flashable zip package.
Otherwise, ota just adds some stuff or replaces current stuff.

My htc one mini 2 is all stock. Software number is 1.16.61.2 and my fon cant to update software. Please help. Sory for my english.

keninzeg said:
My htc one mini 2 is all stock. Software number is 1.16.61.2 and my fon cant to update software. Please help. Sory for my english.
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Did you buy your phone from a carrier? Carrier phones get different software updates

csoulr666 said:
Did you buy your phone from a carrier? Carrier phones get different software updates
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I bought it used, it has installed EE application from the UK. So is there a way to update. Thanks a lot...
I tried to install OTA_M8_MINI_UL_K44_SENSE60_HTC_Europe_2.16.401.1-1.16.401.2_release from stock recovery and failed.

keninzeg said:
I bought it used, it has installed EE application from the UK. So is there a way to update. Thanks a lot...
I tried to install OTA_M8_MINI_UL_K44_SENSE60_HTC_Europe_2.16.401.1-1.16.401.2_release from stock recovery and failed.
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If it has EE applications then it is an EE branded phone. Your updates will arrive differently and will have a different software number. So using the Europe zip will not help.

city2026 said:
For bloatware removal just push a custom boot.img. Liberty kernel or dt2w presented here works fine, you may try them at least with making a backup of original kernel at first. (Custom made kernel might give you permission to write to /system without being s-off.)
I used liberty one, recently flashed the one with double tap to wake, works perfectly fine. Even sd is fine.
I'm not into kernels, perhaps as long as they suit your device they are fine.
OTA have its script, if it has such strings or if you write it into the script, you may delete some apps. Maybe, didn't try nothing with ota scripting. It easier to find working universal bloatware removal script as flashable zip package.
Otherwise, ota just adds some stuff or replaces current stuff.
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Excellent thanks for the reply so in short,
Grab the downloads from above (4 in total?)
Push and override existing TWRP recovery back to stock recovery (Dumbass Details would be helpful as I have not done this in ages)
copy the ADB the new rom to the phone (Again please forgive me as I have not done this in a few years need a memory jog)
Again thanks in advance

The Watergod said:
Excellent thanks for the reply so in short,
Grab the downloads from above (4 in total?)
Push and override existing TWRP recovery back to stock recovery (Dumbass Details would be helpful as I have not done this in ages)
copy the ADB the new rom to the phone (Again please forgive me as I have not done this in a few years need a memory jog)
Again thanks in advance
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If you'll ask more specificly, I'll provide even shorter reply. )
As I get it, you ask for some short check-list / instruction
You need one of three files I uploaded, based on what do you want. )
You can flash big 1 gb system image v2.19.401.2 through twrp.
You can grab small upgrade package and update your 2.18.401.3 by yourself to have 2.19.401.2. Original firmware and fresh rom state might be needed.
You have other needs, you need just freshest kernel or etc., you grab firmware package and try hook it with bootloader or unzip and get the thing you need.
Pick the option and I'll write simple instruction.
I forget to read your previous post. ) So, you have 2.18.161.3 Vodafone. With root privileges (half-root, I assume)
So, yes, you need to restore original recovery of yours. Then it could handle the ota. If you can get it somewhere, you can update. You can get it in vodafone firmware (big package with everything) or if someone made recovery backup earlier.
My upload contains files for non-locked (operator's) devices.
As long as your phone has operator's rom, I can't give you proper advice. I assume, other recoveries/kernels/etc. might not be ok with your device due to hardware lock or difference.
But you can try always, if you sure you can handle it and revert or if you read on your situation enough. I can't advice you here on 100%.
But. If device is just a device, and roms are just roms (and some operator's special version is just a rom), you can flash other system and kernel and see what happens.
You may do a complete backup and save it somewhere and do one of the following:
Flash firmware.zip* contents, then go to TWRP and format all partitions except sdcard, then flash system image from above.
Just flash some custom 5.1.1 release. I use NostromoPop. It much smoother and it's lollipop.
*Firmware.zip contains boot, hboot, recovery. All that was for 2.19.401.2 but presumably can work separate. So you can get what you want and flash through adb. Like boot and hboot for proper device work on 2.19.401.2, or just recovery to try your vodafone ota w/o dramatic changes.
For futher safeness, you can backup hboot and boot or what you want.
I can recommend you to try custom sense-kernel for system write privileges.

city2026 said:
If you'll ask more specificly, I'll provide even shorter reply. )
As I get it, you ask for some short check-list / instruction
You need one of three files I uploaded, based on what do you want. )
You can flash big 1 gb system image v2.19.401.2 through twrp.
You can grab small upgrade package and update your 2.18.401.3 by yourself to have 2.19.401.2. Original firmware and fresh rom state might be needed.
You have other needs, you need just freshest kernel or etc., you grab firmware package and try hook it with bootloader or unzip and get the thing you need.
Pick the option and I'll write simple instruction.
I forget to read your previous post. ) So, you have 2.18.161.3 Vodafone. With root privileges (half-root, I assume)
So, yes, you need to restore original recovery of yours. Then it could handle the ota. If you can get it somewhere, you can update. You can get it in vodafone firmware (big package with everything) or if someone made recovery backup earlier.
My upload contains files for non-locked (operator's) devices.
As long as your phone has operator's rom, I can't give you proper advice. I assume, other recoveries/kernels/etc. might not be ok with your device due to hardware lock or difference.
But you can try always, if you sure you can handle it and revert or if you read on your situation enough. I can't advice you here on 100%.
But. If device is just a device, and roms are just roms (and some operator's special version is just a rom), you can flash other system and kernel and see what happens.
You may do a complete backup and save it somewhere and do one of the following:
Flash firmware.zip* contents, then go to TWRP and format all partitions except sdcard, then flash system image from above.
Just flash some custom 5.1.1 release. I use NostromoPop. It much smoother and it's lollipop.
*Firmware.zip contains boot, hboot, recovery. All that was for 2.19.401.2 but presumably can work separate. So you can get what you want and flash through adb. Like boot and hboot for proper device work on 2.19.401.2, or just recovery to try your vodafone ota w/o dramatic changes.
For futher safeness, you can backup hboot and boot or what you want.
I can recommend you to try custom sense-kernel for system write privileges.
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Sorry to be a pain and your help is invaluable but just trying not to screw this up, My phone has been unlocked to all networks, and I would like either a stock rom bloatware free or a custom sense rom.
The phone is still S-On but I have unlocked the bootloader (Obviously). I Kept the stock rom hoping to use titanium backup to remove the bloat however I quickly found out the phone needed to be S-Off to remove it completely because as soon as the phone rebooted the bloatware re-installed it's self.
This is how I have the OTA update sat on my phone, I only Rooted for SU privs and put on TWRP everything else was stock. I did as a question in another post "Could I remove the APK from the OTA Zip on my phone then install it using TWRP and would that remove the bloat" but no response to that one.
Any help would be greatly recieved

The Watergod said:
Sorry to be a pain and your help is invaluable but just trying not to screw this up, My phone has been unlocked to all networks, and I would like either a stock rom bloatware free or a custom sense rom.
The phone is still S-On but I have unlocked the bootloader (Obviously). I Kept the stock rom hoping to use titanium backup to remove the bloat however I quickly found out the phone needed to be S-Off to remove it completely because as soon as the phone rebooted the bloatware re-installed it's self.
This is how I have the OTA update sat on my phone, I only Rooted for SU privs and put on TWRP everything else was stock. I did as a question in another post "Could I remove the APK from the OTA Zip on my phone then install it using TWRP and would that remove the bloat" but no response to that one.
Any help would be greatly recieved
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Simply flash custom kernel: like liberty sense or stock sense w/ dt2w.
It will unlock the opportunity to write on every partition. I mean system, cache, etc.

The Watergod said:
Sorry to be a pain and your help is invaluable but just trying not to screw this up, My phone has been unlocked to all networks, and I would like either a stock rom bloatware free or a custom sense rom.
The phone is still S-On but I have unlocked the bootloader (Obviously). I Kept the stock rom hoping to use titanium backup to remove the bloat however I quickly found out the phone needed to be S-Off to remove it completely because as soon as the phone rebooted the bloatware re-installed it's self.
This is how I have the OTA update sat on my phone, I only Rooted for SU privs and put on TWRP everything else was stock. I did as a question in another post "Could I remove the APK from the OTA Zip on my phone then install it using TWRP and would that remove the bloat" but no response to that one.
Any help would be greatly recieved
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Hi
I will assume you have the virus I have been seeing lately that wouldn't allow you to reset the phone, where in reset option the automatic restore option remains checked and you can't uncheck it.
The only solution is through TWRP, you need to enter TWRP, erase Cache, Data, System then flash the Lollipop ROM again or stock from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/one...one-mini-2-t3250020/post63859743#post63859743

So there is no Rom available that's pretty much stock without bloatware that I can install with twrp? If not is there some idiots guide to putting my stock recovery back on thank you all again

Security Update OPSS27.104-92-2

I am getting a nag screen to update to opss27.104-92-2 but I can't because I have rooted the phone. I noticed a similar question about the last update and there was a way to manually do the update. Does anyone know where to get the files for this security update so that I can do a manual install.
Alternative, does anyone know where the file is stored on the phone once it is downloaded? If I can find the file then I can probably unzip it and do a manual install.
Thanks

atomclock said:
I am getting a nag screen to update to opss27.104-92-2 but I can't because I have rooted the phone. I noticed a similar question about the last update and there was a way to manually do the update. Does anyone know where to get the files for this security update so that I can do a manual install.
Alternative, does anyone know where the file is stored on the phone once it is downloaded? If I can find the file then I can probably unzip it and do a manual install.
Thanks
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You can't unzip it and try to apply it. It doesn't work that way. You either have to wait until a full firmware package with this update in it is released or reflash a stock system that matches the one you're on. You would need to flash the entire stock firmware. Then you can boot back to the system and take the update normally.

madbat99 said:
You can't unzip it and try to apply it. It doesn't work that way. You either have to wait until a full firmware package with this update in it is released or reflash a stock system that matches the one you're on. You would need to flash the entire stock firmware. Then you can boot back to the system and take the update normally.
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I guess I will have to wait until some is kind enough to post a manual install version.
Thanks

atomclock said:
I guess I will have to wait until some is kind enough to post a manual install version.
Thanks
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There won't likely be a way to install an update on rooted stock. You have to fastboot flash the firmware you're currently on (to remove modifications to system, boot.img, etc), then take the update. That IS the manual method. It should be stored in /cache. The /cache that's in the root directory of the phone. Which G6 do you have?

madbat99 said:
There won't likely be a way to install an update on rooted stock. You have to fastboot flash the firmware you're currently on (to remove modifications to system, boot.img, etc), then take the update. That IS the manual method. It should be stored in /cache. The /cache that's in the root directory of the phone. Which G6 do you have?
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When I talked about doing the update the manual way, I was talking about doing it the way it is described in this thread.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g6/help/security-update-to-opws27-113-45-4-wont-t3818421
Hopefully, someone will extract the relevant files from the update and give instructions on manually doing the update. I really wouldn't call restoring the device to stalk and taking the automated update and then re-rooting the manual way. I would call that the hard way.

atomclock said:
When I talked about doing the update the manual way, I was talking about doing it the way it is described in this thread.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g6/help/security-update-to-opws27-113-45-4-wont-t3818421
Hopefully, someone will extract the relevant files from the update and give instructions on manually doing the update. I really wouldn't call restoring the device to stalk and taking the automated update and then re-rooting the manual way. I would call that the hard way.
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That thread literally says install the stock firmware. You have to wait for the entire firmware for the new build to be released. no one is extracting anything from any update package. They are just using the full firmware package in that thread. You just have to wait for the full firmware to be posted on mirrors.lollinet.com the November patch for my G6 play was just posted there yesterday. that's why I asked which version of the G6 you have I will link you to the full firmware.
Or, You just fastboot flash stock, take the update, fastboot TWRP, use TWRP to flash magisk. No data loss, easy peasy.
the only difference in those two ways is taking the update after you flash stock or flashing stock firmware including the update. Either way you have to root your device again.
You can even flash stock with RSDlite using service file.xml instead of flashfile.xml
the file they are flashing with fastboot in that thread is the stock firmware. Just the newer one.

I was browsing for firmware today, the newest build/security patch is available on the lollinet Moto under Ali fw

GotHeart said:
I was browsing for firmware today, the newest build/security patch is available on the lollinet Moto under Ali fw
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The question is can i use different software channel for my G6? Example 1925-6 to 1925-7 to gain particular service carrier signal