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This may sound like a noob question, so forgive me if it is. I'm currently on Verizon with a dev edition, and the possibility of an OTA in the near future seems pretty bleak. So I was wondering, would it be possible to take the camera update from another carrier and turn it into a flashable zip for us users here on Verizon?
From what I read and understand, it't not just a matter of the APK, so no unfortunately i dont think so. I am in the same boat you are, VZW DE Moto X.
I'm sure someone is trying... so I'm keeping my fingers crossed. But some of the changes are probably at the kernel level (I'm guessing), making it difficult I'm sure.
If anyone has something they want to test, send it my way, I'll gladly test it out on my dev edition
I've ordered a Moto X Developer's Edition. I'm a TMobile customer. While I expect I'll be using the pure Android OS that presumably is installed on the Dev Ed phone, I'm thinking I may want to add a few TMo features (wifi calling, visual voice mail) and maybe even at some point try the TMobile OS in its entirety (Sense 5? I dunno).
WIth my trusty HTC Sensation, which is a TMobile-issued phone, I've enjoyed being able to switch back and forth between pure Android and full-fledged TMobile Sense 4.x (and now even a preview of Sense 5), depending on my mood. I've also used a number of hybrid ROMs that incorporate some features of TMobile's custom OS. All have their advantages and disavantages, and I like to ROM-hop.
So, my question: Are there people out there who are stripping off desirable TMobile applets or are otherwise modding ROMs for use on a Moto X DevEd? I know nobody does this for the money, but I'm someone who likes to donate to these talented folks, btw.
Thanks.
This post is cute. T-Mobile doesn't make sense. HTC makes sense ui on all their android phones whether Verizon at&t or any other android phone carrier.
Moto is stock and that's all. Check android development section if there are any custom ROMs.
As far as their apps Google for them. I have visual voicemail on my nexus and the other T-Mobile app to make plan changes on the fly
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Visual Voicemail is available on Play. WiFi Calling is not available on any phones not officially sold by T-Mobile, so there's no WiFi calling on the X.
SymbioticGenius said:
This post is cute. T-Mobile doesn't make sense. HTC makes sense ui on all their android phones whether Verizon at&t or any other android phone carrier.
Moto is stock and that's all. Check android development section if there are any custom ROMs.
As far as their apps Google for them. I have visual voicemail on my nexus and the other T-Mobile app to make plan changes on the fly
Sent from my Nexus 5
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Oh, yeah. I use ROMs with Sense so seldom that I forgot that it was HTC and not TMo.
(I might as well come clean here: I'm an old geezer. Just don't ask me who the president of the US is or what day it is.)
Thanks for the clarification.
freak4dell said:
Visual Voicemail is available on Play. WiFi Calling is not available on any phones not officially sold by T-Mobile, so there's no WiFi calling on the X.
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Thank you for the clarification. If anybody figures out a way to get wifi calling on a DevEd phone, please holler.
It's easy to do WiFi calling, just not with the T-Mobile app on the Moto X. I use an app named GrooveIP and a Google Voice number. It is a different phone number but that could be an advantage or a disadvantage.
Any one know how Tmobile plans on implementing wifi calling for the nexus 6 been an stock android rom? you guys think all AOSP roms would be able to get wifi calling once this patch goes live?
traicer said:
Any one know how Tmobile plans on implementing wifi calling for the nexus 6 been an stock android rom? you guys think all AOSP roms would be able to get wifi calling once this patch goes live?
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Honestly, I expect Google to implement it just like Apple does. Develop the feature directly into the device and firmware and then allow minor updates to work with other carriers such as US Cellular and Sprint. If they don't bake it into "AOSP" then I doubt third party AOSP built devices would support it.
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Honestly, I expect Google to implement it just like Apple does. Develop the feature directly into the device and firmware and then allow minor updates to work with other carriers such as US Cellular and Sprint. If they don't bake it into "AOSP" then I doubt third party AOSP built devices would support it.
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yes, i'm hoping its an android thing and not a T-Mobile thing.
Here is the reasoning behind my request.
I am on Tmob and have a N6. I was fine stock rooted on 5.0 then 5.0.1. Then I decided to try a few roms. One that said it was for ALL carriers, didn't allow me to get calls unless I was only in 3g.
T-mobile is the ONLY one using a 47m ROM. All others are at 47i, why is there a difference? The radios most likely. I am 95r and 98r doesn't work on TMobile very well.
Can we get a Thread for EACH Carrier? They aren't all the same, at least from my experience. Sprint, VZW are different and have problems. I hear VZW users need to use 98r for "best results"
Go ahead, blast away. Just waiting for the "senior ops" to go to town on this one!
I'm on vzw and every ROM I've tried is fine. Have you updated to the latest image from google. Or are you still on 5.0.1
navyvet420 said:
Here is the reasoning behind my request.
I am on Tmob and have a N6. I was fine stock rooted on 5.0 then 5.0.1. Then I decided to try a few roms. One that said it was for ALL carriers, didn't allow me to get calls unless I was only in 3g.
T-mobile is the ONLY one using a 47m ROM. All others are at 47i, why is there a difference? The radios most likely. I am 95r and 98r doesn't work on TMobile very well.
Can we get a Thread for EACH Carrier? They aren't all the same, at least from my experience. Sprint, VZW are different and have problems. I hear VZW users need to use 98r for "best results"
Go ahead, blast away. Just waiting for the "senior ops" to go to town on this one!
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With many phones, Samsung in particular - there are massive hardware differences that require several separate forums to manage.
With the nexus 6, the hardware is identical on all of them.
There are 2 specific builds that are slightly different and as you mentioned, they are M and I.
What we think is (but unproven) that M is for T-Mobile USA and I is for Australia. We have no concrete proof of that. Nor am I sure what the differences are. If you're using stock-based ROMs, try to stick to M builds.
As for AOSP, I'm not sure anyone knows what the difference is for T-mo. Maybe one day we'll find out.
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With many phones, Samsung in particular - there are massive hardware differences that require several separate forums to manage.
With the nexus 6, the hardware is identical on all of them.
There are 2 specific builds that are slightly different and as you mentioned, they are M and I.
What we think is (but unproven) that M is for T-Mobile USA and I is for Australia. We have no concrete proof of that. Nor am I sure what the differences are. If you're using stock-based ROMs, try to stick to M builds.
As for AOSP, I'm not sure anyone knows what the difference is for T-mo. Maybe one day we'll find out.
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Thank You for the Reply.. I would agree with the thinking about M. Like I stated a non-M build killed the incoming calls unless my phone was on 3g with Enhanced 4g unchecked.
I was just asking for a Carrier Specific Rom thread thats all.
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I'm on vzw and every ROM I've tried is fine. Have you updated to the latest image from google. Or are you still on 5.0.1
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Im on a 5.1 with 95r and 47M is my Build (nocturnal rom) its a Tmobile N6.. All other roms killed incoming calls unless I was stock rooted. CleanRom 2.0 and 2.1 with either 98r or 95r had same results. I like @scrosler roms, but can't live without getting business calls.
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Thank You for the Reply.. I would agree with the thinking about M. Like I stated a non-M build killed the incoming calls unless my phone was on 3g with Enhanced 4g unchecked.
I was just asking for a Carrier Specific Rom thread thats all.
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Yeah. I think its a good idea to have a thread that lists all t-mo compatible ROMs, but first we need to learn what the actual difference is. Perhaps its just a RIL or something. In which case, there may just be a flashable zip required.
I just think we need to know more at this stage.
@efrant, do you know the differences? @simms22?
the aosp roms were missing code that made the tmobile devices not receive calls on lte, that has been fixed and should be in all roms that have been recently updated. i use terminus, which includes the code, so tmobile users get calls on lte, and volte is working. besides that issue that has been fixed, all carriers will work on any aosp rom. theres no such thing as a carrier specific nexus rom.
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the aosp roms were missing code that made the tmobile devices not receive calls on lte, that has been fixed and should be in all roms that have been recently updated. i use terminus, which includes the code, so tmobile users get calls on lte, and volte is working. besides that issue that has been fixed, all carriers will work on any aosp rom. theres no such thing as a carrier specific nexus rom.
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Was the code added to aosp by Google? Or is it a community commit?
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Was the code added to aosp by Google? Or is it a community commit?
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AOSP contains only Android OS nothing proprietary (proprietaries are included as a standalone) but when Google provided the binaries--proprietary libraries, applications were missing which caused VoLTE not to work properly. Myself and Sykopompos worked on the blobs and having VoLTE working, they were pulled from the factory image / deodexed OTA.
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AOSP contains only Android OS nothing proprietary (proprietaries are included as a standalone) but when Google provided the binaries--proprietary libraries, applications were missing which caused VoLTE not to work properly. Myself and Sykopompos worked on the blobs and having VoLTE working, they were pulled from the factory image / deodexed OTA.
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this device has amazing specs but lack of software support. it would be amazing some custom pie or 10 roms
i don't need asus own features
i really like a pixel experience,los or omnirom the most stock android feeling rom( +120hz you will get a more buttery smooth experience)
please somebody create one
sources are available
even zenfone 6 has custom roms
Yes please !
Alessandro999 said:
this device has amazing specs but lack of software support. it would be amazing some custom pie or 10 roms
i don't need asus own features
i really like a pixel experience,los or omnirom the most stock android feeling rom( +120hz you will get a more buttery smooth experience)
please somebody create one
sources are available
even zenfone 6 has custom roms
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one problem is TWRP hasn't even been created... Yet. And yes there really is no software support... Yet
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one problem is TWRP hasn't even been created... Yet. And yes there really is no software support... Yet
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yes exactly i really hope somebody create a tpwr and rom because sources are out
It will be nice if this phone receives TWRP and custom roms.
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Didn't it JUST launch globally today?
Let's give it some time.
i really hope somebody create a stable tpwr since sources are available and the most stable rom out there like omnirom or pixel experience
preferred omnirom
IMO I don't believe it will receive support anytime soon. Unless ROG was able to convince your standard Android enthusiast that this isn't just a gaming device. People that purchase this phone are mainly interested in one thing, gaming, not development. So, ROG has to convince those types that this device is just as good as those others.
It will be interesting to have custom roms for rog. waiting also
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IMO I don't believe it will receive support anytime soon. Unless ROG was able to convince your standard Android enthusiast that this isn't just a gaming device. People that purchase this phone are mainly interested in one thing, gaming, not development. So, ROG has to convince those types that this device is just as good as those others.
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My thoughts exactly. Custom roms are awesome but they are generally made or ported to be used by a majority of the phones out there. If we got a custom rom ie. AOSP, who would code in the air triggers from scratch?
Having said that, the stock rom is quite good. I don't have the need to root it like I did with my Mate 20X to shrink down the gigantic icons/screen because by default Asus allows a lot of customization.
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My thoughts exactly. Custom roms are awesome but they are generally made or ported to be used by a majority of the phones out there. If we got a custom rom ie. AOSP, who would code in the air triggers from scratch?
Having said that, the stock rom is quite good. I don't have the need to root it like I did with my Mate 20X to shrink down the gigantic icons/screen because by default Asus allows a lot of customization.
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Apparently the American version doesn't have volte or voWi-Fi as well.. that, along with the fact that it doesn't support band 71, are big reasons why your normal or typical Android enthusiast/ developer is not going to purchase this device
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Apparently the American version doesn't have volte or voWi-Fi as well.. that, along with the fact that it doesn't support band 71, are big reasons why your normal or typical Android enthusiast/ developer is not going to purchase this device
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So does this apply to the Tengent games (CN) version too? I am getting the cheaper CN version and then going to flash the WW (Global) Rom, so essentially I guess I am asking is this a hardware omission, or is it ROM (software) based?
And how does this typically affect say a normal phone user?
It might get an update. As for band 71, I personally don't care because I won't use it all.
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So does this apply to the Tengent games (CN) version too? I am getting the cheaper CN version and then going to flash the WW (Global) Rom, so essentially I guess I am asking is this a hardware omission, or is it ROM (software) based?
And how does this typically affect say a normal phone user?
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As I understand it, it doesn't have to do with software or hardware, they just simply don't support volte of vowifi. In China, they do. So, it's not the device, but the companies choice. May be some restrictions that we aren't aware of, otherwise it doesn't seem like a very smart decision. I was all in until I heard this. 3G is going to be removed from our networks in the next few years, so voLTE is kind of mandatory. Even now, if I don't have voLTE, I can't make or receive calls. VoWiFi, that's beneficial if you're cell signal is low for whatever reason. Maybe you work below ground or in Faraday cage style buildings. Plenty of uses for it. As far as band 71, no, I probably don't need it. But that doesn't mean I wouldn't want it just in case. Always better to have and not need, than to need and not have.
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As I understand it, it doesn't have to do with software or hardware, they just simply don't support volte of vowifi. In China, they do. So, it's not the device, but the companies choice. May be some restrictions that we aren't aware of, otherwise it doesn't seem like a very smart decision. I was all in until I heard this. 3G is going to be removed from our networks in the next few years, so voLTE is kind of mandatory. Even now, if I don't have voLTE, I can't make or receive calls. VoWiFi, that's beneficial if you're cell signal is low for whatever reason. Maybe you work below ground or in Faraday cage style buildings. Plenty of uses for it. As far as band 71, no, I probably don't need it. But that doesn't mean I wouldn't want it just in case. Always better to have and not need, than to need and not have.
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This is wrong for TMO. It's in the SW. There's an option for volte carrier check on xiaomis phones. A simple dialer code disables this check, and volte works on TMO. I'm hoping there's a way we can do this on the rog 2. That, or a build.prop edit to enable it. There has to be a setting hidden that disables volte in us.
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This is wrong for TMO. It's in the SW. There's an option for volte carrier check on xiaomis phones. A simple dialer code disables this check, and volte works on TMO. I'm hoping there's a way we can do this on the rog 2. That, or a build.prop edit to enable it. There has to be a setting hidden that disables volte in us.
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I've just been reading a little bit more up on it, and apparently, ASUS didn't pay the cell carriers in North America for provisioning costs. That's why it won't work. So, regardless of software, hardware or any other type of hackery, it won't work in North America.
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I've just been reading a little bit more up on it, and apparently, ASUS didn't pay the cell carriers in North America for provisioning costs. That's why it won't work. So, regardless of software, hardware or any other type of hackery, it won't work in North America.
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So is this just a bad/dumb move by Asus or what? I mean I honestly don't know if these omissions will affect me, all I know is I still own a Samsung until I get the Asus and was always able to use my Samsung phone how I wanted to use it