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Buying a Z3C in May 16 , do it or not?

Hi guys ,
I'm using the Galaxy S3 for few years now and I'm thinking of changing my phone since I would be leaving my house at 5 and only returning at 7 now. The Galaxy S3 can only provide me with 3 to 4 hours of SOT and its not enough.
I'm currently looking at Galaxy J7 , Xperia Z3 , Xperia Z3C and Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 due to large battery capacities or great battery life as suggested by GSMArena.
My Sister has the Galaxy J7 and she can easily get around 6 hours SOT per charge.
I'm considering Z3 and Z3C because GSMArena is giving them a very good rating on battery life (Although its based on 4.4.4)
Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 has 4000mAh and users are reporting 6~10 hours SOT.
My friend has a Z2 and he really likes it (So am I). I've also used the Xperia Ray before changing to S3 and personally I would prefer Sony > Samsung > Xiaomi. I've used the Xiaomi redmi Note 2 for two months when I sent my S3 for volume button replacement and the 3000mAh battery can only give me 4hrs SOT which is really bad. The Android skin (MIUI) is also very buggy and RAM consuming. Sony's approach to make their UI similar to AOSP and still updating their old devices is one the reason I like Sony.
Dear community of Z3C , would you say that buying a Z3C now is worth it or not? I'm going to use my new phone for at least 2~3 years. Thanks in advance

conanDO98 said:
Hi guys ,
I'm using the Galaxy S3 for few years now and I'm thinking of changing my phone since I would be leaving my house at 5 and only returning at 7 now. The Galaxy S3 can only provide me with 3 to 4 hours of SOT and its not enough.
I'm currently looking at Galaxy J7 , Xperia Z3 , Xperia Z3C and Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 due to large battery capacities or great battery life as suggested by GSMArena.
My Sister has the Galaxy J7 and she can easily get around 6 hours SOT per charge.
I'm considering Z3 and Z3C because GSMArena is giving them a very good rating on battery life (Although its based on 4.4.4)
Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 has 4000mAh and users are reporting 6~10 hours SOT.
My friend has a Z2 and he really likes it (So am I). I've also used the Xperia Ray before changing to S3 and personally I would prefer Sony > Samsung > Xiaomi. I've used the Xiaomi redmi Note 2 for two months when I sent my S3 for volume button replacement and the 3000mAh battery can only give me 4hrs SOT which is really bad. The Android skin (MIUI) is also very buggy and RAM consuming. Sony's approach to make their UI similar to AOSP and still updating their old devices is one the reason I like Sony.
Dear community of Z3C , would you say that buying a Z3C now is worth it or not? I'm going to use my new phone for at least 2~3 years. Thanks in advance
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Ill say its worth it since its very cheap and has the best battery life, many reviewers claim it as the "king of battery life". I have been using it for almost a year and I am satisfy with it. I was gotta buy the Z5 compact but been hearing bad stuff about the SD810 and not much development.......so Z3 compact for the win, then again, its just my opinion

A phone is a very personal thing, it makes a statement about who you are and what your taste in gadgets is.
The Z3 compact is a pocket phone, it's small, discrete and stylish. For people who who don't want to look like idiots holding some massive screen to the side of their head, so big they can't see.
Asking people to help choose a phone is a bit weird. It's like asking someone you don't know to decide what you're going to wear. It's a personal thing.
The Z3c is completely waterproof. The camera is outstanding, but you do have to get it out of Auto and put the .iso down to 50 or 100
There is built in noise canceling, missing from most phones. You need to buy the headphones, but it works well and sounds good when you're on a train or in a crowd.
The screen is an IPS, meaning you can view it from many angles, not just directly in front of you.
People ***** about Sony screens cracking because unlike other phones, when they crack you can't use them any more, so you have to pay for repair.
I don't think Sony phones are any better or worse than other manufacturers, they all use the same Gorilla glass. They all break when you drop them or sit n them. I had a Z1c that had a cracked screen, six months after I bought it, Sony repaired or free of charge. Sony will repair it free if it's a genuine fault in manufacturing, they will also charge you to repair it if you drop it or sit on it, they know the difference.
Personally the Z3c is still a good option to buy. It has just as many features as the latest Z5c phone other than fingerprint recognition, the battery lasts longer and because it has been out longer there are loads of custom mods and roms that you can load onto your phone to make it cool.

I just returned back to the Z3C after owning the Z5C and selling it last week. Z5 on LP and then MM was a disaster. Too many problems that I couldn't take it anymore. So I say go for it. It's cheap right now and I'm not experiencing any problems on MM with it.

What will be your next smartphone?

I am exploring options for my next phone. What will be your future pick?
I was looking forward to a new sony device, but I am not blown away with the xperia x. But I guess it is still top of my list.

Guids said:
I am exploring options for my next phone. What will be your future pick?
I was looking forward to a new sony device, but I am not blown away with the xperia x. But I guess it is still top of my list.
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Probably a Z5 compact. The Z5 is cheaper but has the same spec as the X.
Sony have the market on small top spec phones. I like a small phone in my hand, not some massive phablet.
Plus it's waterproof and has all the features. Top audio, noise reduction technologies built in. IPS screen, there aren't any other manufacturers that come close.
But it won't be for another year, hopefully by then there will be some development on it and things like rooting will be easy.

Didgesteve said:
Probably a Z5 compact. The Z5 is cheaper but has the same spec as the X.
Sony have the market on small top spec phones. I like a small phone in my hand, not some massive phablet.
Plus it's waterproof and has all the features. Top audio, noise reduction technologies built in. IPS screen, there aren't any other manufacturers that come close.
But it won't be for another year, hopefully by then there will be some development on it and things like rooting will be easy.
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Yeah unfortunately support on xda is virtually non existent for the z5 (compact). And I do not think it will surge eventually, then it would have happened already. It is also the main reason why I didn't switch earlier. But yeah.. Xda support is really important for me since I like to tweak certain aspects

I am going with the Huawei P9 Plus. It will be a step up from the z3c in a few areas. First off, the P9 has 4gb of ram, so multitasking is easier, and the chipset is a solid foundation as well. The z3c has a higher megapixel camera 20mp vs the 12mp P9 Plus. The P9 Plus is almost an inch bigger in size 4.6 vs 5.5 but I still think that it does not qualify as ( as Didgesteve called it ) a phablet.

Nokia's (the Finnish company) non compete clause expires next month, so in 8 days I believe, I'm waiting to see what they bring to market - I bet it'll be good - they've had years to prepare.

A Galaxy Note 6/7 or a Nexus phone. My biggest priorities are vanilla, lag free, good battery and waterproof. If google makes a nice Nexus that's waterproof and has good battery, lag and vanilla are given. For the Note, I'm not so sure about the UI. But my Z3C has become laggy as of late, even with a factory reset. Constantly at 1.6-1.9 gb memory usage.

Xiaomi Mi 5 is cheap and really rocks!!! :good:

istux said:
Xiaomi Mi 5 is cheap and really rocks!!! :good:
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Definitely not Z5 Compact, I'd rather wait for the Xperia X to have a compact version than buy a phone with barely any support from the community and not to mention Snapdragon 810 Problems

istux said:
Xiaomi Mi 5 is cheap and really rocks!!! :good:
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I ways also looking forward to this. But that video showing that it breaks easily scared me off. The camera is also underwhelming.
I like specs from oneplus 3, but it is just too damn big.

Much as i like the z3c for it's size and specs, my next phone will most likely be a nexus.
While Sony's firmware isn't bad i do miss the variety of 3rd party, AOSP based roms, something that a nexus won't lack thanks to the open bootloader and abundance of developers.
For now, until we know anything about the next Nexus devices, i just hope the PA team will manage to resolve some of the more pressing bugs, a daily-driver aosp MM rom might just keep me around for a bit longer.

Definitely not a Xperia!!

i switched from z3 compact to iphone SE

I went from a HTC Desire to a HTC Sensation, then a Xperia ZR and I have enjoyed my Z3 Compact since October, 2014. I wanted a new Xperia for the summer of 2016, something like the Z6 Compact but the new Xperia X series is not what I wanted.
The only Xperia X I wanted is the X Performance but it has failed to pique my interest. Battery tests look underwhelming compared to the Z3C, the camera isn't up to the other flagships and the price is too high for a smartphone that wont' be released in Europe until July.
So I have jumped ship and went to buy an S7 Edge that features great battery, screen, camera, waterproofing and Material themes so TouchWiz isn't annoying. Maybe the screen is too big at 5.5", but the AMOLED readability in summer is top-notch and the pictures and videos taken are miles better than any other phone camera I tried.
The S7 Edge was 570 euro including the Samsung VR glasses (thanks to Vodafone). The Xperia X Performance hasn't been released yet, but I expect it to cost around 630-650 euro.
Sony has failed me first choosing the SD 810 for the Z5 line and now leaving the Z series aside (Z6 Compact, Z6 and Z6 Premium was what I wanted).
I may return to Sony when they offer something that fills the void of the Z series, not right now with overpriced phones that are released too late.

I get my Nexus 5X tomorrow! YAY! Not the newest device, but almost anything seems to be better to me than any Xperia. I really like the Nexus line. If I hadn't been that misinformed by Sony about being open blabla I would have bought a Nexus instead of an Xperia. Actually using a Z3C, going to sell it as soon as I was finally able to recover DRM with Windows 10 or Linux (Arch). So my Nexus 5X will cost me about 100 Euro. Nice price for a quite decent upgrade of camera and processor (Snapdragon 801 --> Snapdragon 808) and for a device I can fully customize and which got amazing support in FOSS community / XDA.
I think smartphones today are really fast (more than 200 (!!) times faster than my first PC., an Intel 80386. Imagine 200 PCs in your room, haha) and it's not top priority for me to have the fastest device in the whole universe. What counts for me is that the device is fast enough to be ready for daily usage, that I can modify my device to my needs without losing any feature (camera quality, sound quality), not the needs a company wants me to have... and to have a good camera (battery of the Nexus 5X is not the best but acceptable). At first I was quite satisfied with my Z3C but that slowly turned into frustration and anger. It took months to root this unholy device without losing DRM forever (thank God for the dev that finally got it!). Afterwards it was a pain in the ass to do such simple things like rooting it, install recovery (compared to my S3 and Nexus 7; atm trying to recover my DRM for selling this crappy device but ADB won't call SuperSU - wtf?!)... then saw how "good" the open-source output of the so-called developer-friendly company was and I was massively disappointed, to say it in very kind words. Still there is no fully working (--> fisheye) AOSP for Z3 series. Lollipop got fisheye, CM13 for MM is not available yet (LOL?! The only manufacturer left... what a shame) because Sony released first MM working stuff (RIL, camera) in May 2016 afaik) - more than half a year after release of MM. That's what I call developer-friendly... lol. I never gonna buy any Xperia anymore, never in a million years, that's for sure, and try to avoid buying anything made by Sony in general.
Now I'm very glad to get a Nexus (I'm still very satisfied with my Nexus 7 2013 already) because the needs of the user and customizability are top priority and it has a very good cam, which won't produce (reverse) fisheye-pictures when unlocked. I won't need to use stock ROM for this device to be fully working, nor a locked BL and a thousand hacks for stock to be comfortable with (still no dark settings for MM stock, only eye-killing whiteness). Feels like not being in bonds any more...
My brother and my sister-in-law both got the same device (Z3C stock, not rooted) and are very satisfied (for whatever reason... camera on stock with DRM is even worse than on my old Galaxy S3)... so, well. For everyone who still likes Xperia, I wish you the best with that, honestly.
Good riddance, Sony...

is there any phone out there with similar dimensions to the z3 compact? i would like waterproofing as well, but not sure what's out there these days. i have to admit i love the concept rom

tronjojo said:
is there any phone out there with similar dimensions to the z3 compact? i would like waterproofing as well, but not sure what's out there these days. i have to admit i love the concept rom
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Z5 Compact

deniz2694 said:
i switched from z3 compact to iphone SE
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I know a lot of ppl that had made that switch and was satisfied about it

I'm looking for the best smartphone that does not tells itself that the system was been tampered if i root and modify something (Like KNOX or HTC do tell it), because if i want to bring my warranty back, i simply re-flash the firmware and it become unrooted.

No idea. I will be sticking with my Z3c for the foreseeable future.
I recently purchased a Galaxy s6 and was missing my Z3c within a few days. I have also recently used the LG G4 and Nexus 5x. All of these feel like a step down. The Z3c with the MM Slim rom is so fast and fluid and the battery life is ridiculous. The galaxy S6 could kill itself in 12 hours with almost no interaction. Also, it is hard to go back to a phone as large as those. Once you put a case on them, you may as well be using a tablet.

I would go for OnePlus 3 right now, but it's huge, i just don't get the hype for 5.5" screen, that requires your device body to have more than 15cm in size. All of a sudden 5" was not enough so they all had to go for more, not to mention big bezels on top and bottom of the screen even on those 5-5.2" devices.

Is nokia 8 still worth buying in September 2018 ?

Nokia 8 is available for INR 28k. So is it worth buying considering SD835 and camera quality or is there any better option ?

pawankkumar said:
Nokia 8 is available for INR 28k. So is it worth buying considering SD835 and camera quality or is there any better option ?
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As of the locked bootloader, issues with obtaining root and maintaining updates from OTA at the same time and lack of custom roms I would rather choose Pocophone F1 nowdays. The battery is also smaller on this one and ONLY advantage of N8 over F1 is the camera from Carl Zeiss.

KonikoO said:
. The battery is also smaller on this one and ONLY advantage of N8 over F1 is the camera from Carl Zeiss.
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And at Amazon, the Nokia 8 is £100 cheaper than the Pocophone, I'd say that was a good advantage

I'm guessing you can get the Pocophone F1 or Honor Play for similar or less money in India? I'd seriously consider those (I own a Nokia 8 but if I was buying today I'd probably look elsewhere)

I haven't got any issue on OTA updates so I would always recommend Nokia 8. It hasn't give me any problem issue either, not even with Bluetooth as some people had wrote. I'm pleased with the camera quality, stock Nokia camera is decent enough, but if you want better post processing image to obtain better picture quality and really good HDR+ option you can install Google camera posted here in some thread. Another good option is installing open camera app from playstore, with it I can set up 4k at 60fps and it does record video without any crush. I haven't check on PC about if it's really recording at those parameters though.
Another plus that I believe is build quality. Nokia has been always outstanding in that department. I don't know about pocophone's build quality, nor endurance durability. So I can't say if it is good or bad. But I can surely say Nokia is better, no doubt. Lol
But of course, if you want better performance in paper I would recommend you pocophone, as it has the latest snapdragon processor and RAM I think (?).

I picked mine up at the beginning of August and don't regret the purchase at all. The camera issues are exaggerated - isn't great in low light, but it's pretty decent in normal light. To be honest if you want a really good camera you still need to buy a proper camera, but as phones go it's not terrible. The processor is more than up to most jobs. It's really nicely built - solid and with a decent metal back. At current prices you're getting a near top-end phone at mid-level prices.

don't go
, i bought Nokia 8 on very first day launch in india. it has image retention and heating issues.
only advantage is camera 2 api enabled by default.
so it can able to run gcam mode.
rather i would suggest go with mi a2 for overall all same stock experience with great camera and large aperture 1.75 with sony sensor. it would be joy to use gcam mode with this setup.
don't go with poco f1, display issues and camera is just worst and not even comparable to 2 year old mi5.

I have dual sim Nokia 8 and screen, looks like, shape of metal, plastics and screen is better than any Xiami phone ever. Nokia 8 is a top model of fashion for almost all mobile phones made it until now. It is really worth to buy in October too!
For me no heating problems, or any other. Camera with google or other aps are ok.
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Just bought one so I hope so...
For the price nothing seems to compare now spec wise, I've got a 950xl that has some kind of weird power draw issue which has forced my hand to finally ditch windows phone.
Sadly instore the Nakia 7.1 instantly took a better picture but I found I hard to spend more money on a 'lesser' phone, hoping the updates and different camera make it better!
I personally really like the style on the Nokia, I was considering the oneplus but then for the difference in price for what you get, is it really worth spending over double? I was set on buying a P20 Pro, but photos didn't seem to compare to the 950xl (tried them side by side instore) and I learnt very quickly that I really hate the 'notch' at the top, figured if I'm settling might as well get a pretty phone, considering what else you can get with the same specs seems to be double the price at least in the UK so far i'm happy. and I've saved a fortune by not buying the P20 Pro

Don't buy any Nokia device if you want install custom ROM and or flash custom recovery.
HMD isn't Nokia!

pawankkumar said:
Nokia 8 is available for INR 28k. So is it worth buying considering SD835 and camera quality or is there any better option ?
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I've just bought the missus one, £250 with a 2 year warranty is a no brainer, you could pay more for a Moto G6 Plus and get Pie and the odd security update in about 18 months if you are lucky.
The camera isn't as bad as people seem to get rather heated about, it is a bit crap in low light but for most situations it is fine.
I have had mine 11 months and it has been nothing other than great.

I agree. Camera is not bad. Also, it is not awesome but successful enough. I see the reality of colours is definitely good. I don't like to see fake and stupid colors in my pictures. It still worths to buy at the moment.
MrBelter said:
I've just bought the missus one, £250 with a 2 year warranty is a no brainer, you could pay more for a Moto G6 Plus and get Pie and the odd security update in about 18 months if you are lucky.
The camera isn't as bad as people seem to get rather heated about, it is a bit crap in low light but for most situations it is fine.
I have had mine 11 months and it has been nothing other than great.
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Now with unlocked bootloader you have a masterpiece in nokia 8. Good camera imo, very good radios - bluetooth connects to anything... Go for it

IMO the best Device in Years. Even w/o Root/BLU Android One is damn cool, I won't buy any Phone without One anymore. And having a 1/8" Jack which doens't suck (Compared to Sony's is Great), the SD Card Slot I can't live without having Hundreds of Gigabtes of Lossless Music, 16:9 but with Hardware Button seems more sensefull than 18:9 bc Videos still are 16:9 anyway, I still prefer IPS over OLED due to Burn-Ins... I haven't been Disappointed yet!

DO NOT BUY POCO F1. Im actually poco user and want to switch to this. Tons of bugs and problem that they still not fix after 1 months of release. there also screen bleeding issue, multitouch issue, weird audio issue while using headset while playing game and ugly notch. Stay away from poco
Edit : also MIUI is very bad OS. Tons of bloatware and they even put ads on anything like file manager or the weather widget. Its just soo annoying.
One more thing worth noted custom rom isnt really friendly now on xiaomi devices because they are putting anti rollback which will hard brick your device.
Just buy nokia because android one is far better.

LoaderFabi said:
IMO the best Device in Years. Even w/o Root/BLU Android One is damn cool, I won't buy any Phone without One anymore. And having a 1/8" Jack which doens't suck (Compared to Sony's is Great), the SD Card Slot I can't live without having Hundreds of Gigabtes of Lossless Music, 16:9 but with Hardware Button seems more sensefull than 18:9 bc Videos still are 16:9 anyway, I still prefer IPS over OLED due to Burn-Ins... I haven't been Disappointed yet!
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zengraviz said:
Just buy nokia because android one is far better.
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Nokia 8 is not part of the android one program.

Kerri007 said:
Nokia 8 is not part of the android one program.
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Damn. Just looked it up, ur right.
But still, stock is clean as ****.

With the Bootloader officially unlockable there's another reason to go Nokia 8...

LoaderFabi said:
Damn. Just looked it up, ur right.
But still, stock is clean as ****.
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Atleast it close to stock google and so it almost identically same nonetheless except the late pie update

MrBelter said:
I've just bought the missus one, £250 with a 2 year warranty is a no brainer, you could pay more for a Moto G6 Plus and get Pie and the odd security update in about 18 months if you are lucky.
The camera isn't as bad as people seem to get rather heated about, it is a bit crap in low light but for most situations it is fine.
I have had mine 11 months and it has been nothing other than great.
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I've just bought one of these too, £259 John Lewis and I think it's a bargain. I bought it as my Moto G LTE needed to be retired and I was going to go for a Moto G6 but when I saw this it was too good a bargain to refuse. I agree with you about Moto's not so good update policy. So far so good with the Nokia 8 and it ticks all my boxes, never use a phone cam for anything other than the odd snap or car bump, I've a DSLR for proper photography so a phone cam never really enters the equation.

is it best buy under 300$(

I need a long lasting mobile with good specs already tried honor play got screen burn issue in bright white color and flickering display don't know that peice was defective or its model fault.
Anyways need suggestion on what to buy for 3yrs use and need good specs and camera good enough to take notes picture, mi A2, redmi note 6 pro, honor 8x, honor play or asus m2 pro?
Which one should i go for? Poco f1 is not an option cux of cheap built and screen bleeding issue and soft bugs.

vishal uchiha said:
I need a long lasting mobile with good specs already tried honor play got screen burn issue in bright white color and flickering display don't know that peice was defective or its model fault.
Anyways need suggestion on what to buy for 3yrs use and need good specs and camera good enough to take notes picture, mi A2, redmi note 6 pro, honor 8x, honor play or asus m2 pro?
Which one should i go for? Poco f1 is not an option cux of cheap built and screen bleeding issue and soft bugs.
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I recommend the most obvious then ...well actually if you want more customizablilty and a strong sturdy phone with exceptional performance for day to day tasks then mi a2 is good...if you want no customized and on disgusting emui but with a siginificantly faster 710 go for it

To be honest...
Read some topic about mi A2 issue before you buy it...
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-a2/help/rom-issue-mi-a2-t3842664

Quantumkk123 said:
I recommend the most obvious then ...well actually if you want more customizablilty and a strong sturdy phone with exceptional performance for day to day tasks then mi a2 is good...if you want no customized and on disgusting emui but with a siginificantly faster 710 go for it
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Well i have heard battery problems in MI A2, how is redmi note 6 pro for daily drind use, is it durable for at least 3yrs? I have tried honor play but i don't think it's display or hardware is durable.

vishal uchiha said:
Well i have heard battery problems in MI A2, how is redmi note 6 pro for daily drind use, is it durable for at least 3yrs? I have tried honor play but i don't think it's display or hardware is durable.
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Well I haven't got any seriously because unless if 6 hr and 2 min of sot is battery issues you have a problem however redmi note 6 pro is not bad either apaart from annoying notch, lack of rom support and also slower chipset

pureexe said:
To be honest...
Read some topic about mi A2 issue before you buy it...
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-a2/help/rom-issue-mi-a2-t3842664
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Is redmi note 6 pro durable like for 3 yrs? And what about honor play

Quantumkk123 said:
Well I haven't got any seriously because unless if 6 hr and 2 min of sot is battery issues you have a problem however redmi note 6 pro is not bad either apaart from annoying notch, lack of rom support and also slower chipset
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Well snap636 should be fast enough for normal day use and medium size games and i am talking about battery issue that when battery get to like 4% it take hrs in charging it and i don't think that everytime 4g net + google or games will work up for 6hrs.
The only thing i want is a durable phone with medicore specs to run smoothly

vishal uchiha said:
Well snap636 should be fast enough for normal day use and medium size games and i am talking about battery issue that when battery get to like 4% it take hrs in charging it and i don't think that everytime 4g net + google or games will work up for 6hrs.
The only thing i want is a durable phone with medicore specs to run smoothly
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Well why you asking us clearly you have your mind set on the redmi note 6 pro

Quantumkk123 said:
Well why you asking us clearly you have your mind set on the redmi note 6 pro
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You ppl are experts this is the first time i am trying xiaomi phone the prob is if this one got problems within a yr the my father will make me spend my 3 yrs without mobile. cuz he wants me to buy sam but i don't like sam aside s series.

Quantumkk123 said:
Well why you asking us clearly you have your mind set on the redmi note 6 pro
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My luck is quite bad with mobiles, zenfone got bricked even after repair some it got bricked again and then purchased honor play then it had screen burn issue so got refund and today honor play price is decreased by 60$ but i don't know to trust honor anymore and all mobiles seems to be concentrating on specs instead of hardware durability.

This phone has NO issues with battery life. The media and the journalists feed us bull**** all the time, they see a number and make an assumption. My phone lasts easily a full day with normal day of use with a lot of calls, a lot of searching on the net and some video watching in the car with some audio book listening. This phone lasts more than my old Samsung s8, than my newer Samsung s9 and on par with my last year mi a1.
Many people already said battery life is good if not greqt., But are afraid to say it is excellent because the tech YouTubers said it's "meh" for some reason, even though many of their phones that they own last less than this one.
This is one of the best phones under 300 and dare I say it comes close to even the bigger budget phones.
The only thing I can't comment on is gaming as I do not play games on my phone. I listed all my activities above you can make your educated guess. I have two phones left right now that I use that is my older Samsung s8 as one of my all time favorite phones, and this one, and I am thinking of getting rid of the s8 as well. The s8 as originally more expensive phone is fluid in terms of UI, better looking to me, better camera hands down, and more powerfull, but to be fair I could not care less about most of the things except I really enjoy the fluid UI Samsung has build in the past years with the S7 s8 and s9, but I am happy with the stock to so whatever.
Go for this phone dude, you won't be sorry in the next 3 years unless you play heavy games (for those I have no clue, you will have to ask some one else).
The only thing I would suggest if you have the budget is go for the 6GB ram version, that will help you last longer with your phone for sure, it's a future proof more than anything else.

tixoo said:
This phone has NO issues with battery life. The media and the journalists feed us bull**** all the time, they see a number and make an assumption. My phone lasts easily a full day with normal day of use with a lot of calls, a lot of searching on the net and some video watching in the car with some audio book listening. This phone lasts more than my old Samsung s8, than my newer Samsung s9 and on par with my last year mi a1.
Many people already said battery life is good if not greqt., But are afraid to say it is excellent because the tech YouTubers said it's "meh" for some reason, even though many of their phones that they own last less than this one.
This is one of the best phones under 300 and dare I say it comes close to even the bigger budget phones.
The only thing I can't comment on is gaming as I do not play games on my phone. I listed all my activities above you can make your educated guess. I have two phones left right now that I use that is my older Samsung s8 as one of my all time favorite phones, and this one, and I am thinking of getting rid of the s8 as well. The s8 as originally more expensive phone is fluid in terms of UI, better looking to me, better camera hands down, and more powerfull, but to be fair I could not care less about most of the things except I really enjoy the fluid UI Samsung has build in the past years with the S7 s8 and s9, but I am happy with the stock to so whatever.
Go for this phone dude, you won't be sorry in the next 3 years unless you play heavy games (for those I have no clue, you will have to ask some one else).
The only thing I would suggest if you have the budget is go for the 6GB ram version, that will help you last longer with your phone for sure, it's a future proof more than anything else.
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Couldn't have said it better my friend

Haha, If you don't like poco for the reasons you've posted forget the a2. Screen is a nightmare (compared to other lcd not oled, before some "akhchually" carebear shows up). Bugs talk for themselves. Build quality ok for the price, but it's disgustingly copying the iphone x, or it's just me.

strapabiro said:
Haha, If you don't like poco for the reasons you've posted forget the a2. Screen is a nightmare (compared to other lcd not oled, before some "akhchually" carebear shows up). Bugs talk for themselves. Build quality ok for the price, but it's disgustingly copying the iphone x, or it's just me.
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I mean the only key feature that many people think of approaching the Poco is the chipset it has for it's price....that's it

strapabiro said:
Haha, If you don't like poco for the reasons you've posted forget the a2. Screen is a nightmare (compared to other lcd not oled, before some "akhchually" carebear shows up). Bugs talk for themselves. Build quality ok for the price, but it's disgustingly copying the iphone x, or it's just me.
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nightmare and disgusting are words that are usually used for phones of the 5-10 usd from china with shipping. I would not call any disadvantages or shortcomings that you think the phone has (obviously comparing to phones with higher price tag or with better individual parts but with other parts lacking) nightmares or disgusting.
but as you said its just you
ps: iphone copied samsung that copied iphone that copied samsung that copied apple that copied samsung that copied nokia that copied ericson that copied siemens that copied sagem that copied motorola.
point is bit invalid copying is the biggest form of flattery

Should I fix my P20 pro or sell it?

Hi all, I loved my p20 pro however i cracked both sides of my phone. It will cost me around $300 for fix it my self. Screen back and tools. Should i just sell it. I could not find any other better phone than mine:/

I would fix it. You can not buy anything better for that price.
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XxReApErxX said:
I would fix it. You can not buy anything better for that price.
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Thank you new one about $650 i am selling ebay

XxReApErxX said:
I would fix it. You can not buy anything better for that price.
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Hey you should check out sony xperia 1
It is dope

fix it first, then sell it, then buy something u desired

zurhuho said:
Hi all, I loved my p20 pro however i cracked both sides of my phone. It will cost me around $300 for fix it my self. Screen back and tools. Should i just sell it. I could not find any other better phone than mine:/
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I'd say it depends, if i loved this phone that much i would 100% get it fixed, probably add insurance and do it that way, but if i didn't like many of us don't, then i would check to see what price i would get, the 6T is a great alternative at the moment and it's coming down in price.
But it's up to you.
Check the sale price in current state, then fix cost vs for sale price after it's fixed. If it's worth your time and trouble then go for it.
Personally i'd explore the insurance side of things, may be a cost worthy alternative vs $300, I personally wouldn't do it and i'm pretty good at stripping phones, you have waterproofing and other stuff to consider, put it on the insurers toes instead.
Monthly premium and 1 excess fee will be less than $300.
Then i'd rationalise the money i've saved to be spent on a phone i actually want, personally i'd say the 6T unless you can wait for the 7 which will be around £499 - £550 for the 128GB variant.
Nothing else stands out to me these days that will have great development and a monster chipset / feature set.
Your call pal.
Let us know what you end up doing.
https://swappa.com/mobile/price/huawei-p20-pro
Swappa has the device at a solid resale price, so around $500 - $530
I'd sell it for $500 for a quick sale depending on it's current state / boxed / accessories etc.

Well i cancelled the listing i will Keep It I like my phone.
Thank you yall all comments i couldn't find better alternative than my phone. Only i see xperia x1 because new cinama futures however battery is 3300 amp i am barely surviving with huawei p20 pro battery life.

zurhuho said:
Well i cancelled the listing i will Keep It I like my phone.
Thank you yall all comments i couldn't find better alternative than my phone. Only i see xperia x1 because new cinama futures however battery is 3300 amp i am barely surviving with huawei p20 pro battery life.
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Take into account the processor too. I got much better battery life consistently on my 1+5 by someway.
10 hours daily no problem.. Vs 7-9 on the pro.
3300 Vs 4000
Believe me the battery size is not the only factor

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Take into account the processor too. I got much better battery life consistently on my 1+5 by someway.
10 hours daily no problem.. Vs 7-9 on the pro.
3300 Vs 4000
Believe me the battery size is not the only factor
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Yes you right i had xz premium sony battery saver work amazing but background process limit less than Huawei i am using more app than sony

zurhuho said:
Yes you right i had xz premium sony battery saver work amazing but background process limit less than Huawei i am using more app than sony
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Personally I'd never buy another Sony, Huawei, Samsung, LG or Nokia device.
For numerous reasons.
HTC (so long as they get back on track) best Devs and some truly superb phones albeit with faults, they just feel like they're unique and I like that.
OnePlus, owned the 1+5, it's hard not to love it, so fast, so efficient, it was just a lack of OIS which killed me, everything else was brilliant.
Pixel, Xiaomi, essential, never owned any of them but they look alright, so long as Google put more than 4g of ram in their phones.
Personally I think Motorola are going to make a comeback, their budget phones are incredible for the price.

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Personally I'd never buy another Sony, Huawei, Samsung, LG or Nokia device.
For numerous reasons.
HTC (so long as they get back on track) best Devs and some truly superb phones albeit with faults, they just feel like they're unique and I like that.
OnePlus, owned the 1+5, it's hard not to love it, so fast, so efficient, it was just a lack of OIS which killed me, everything else was brilliant.
Pixel, Xiaomi, essential, never owned any of them but they look alright, so long as Google put more than 4g of ram in their phones.
Personally I think Motorola are going to make a comeback, their budget phones are incredible for the price.
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I am thinking xperia x1

zurhuho said:
I am thinking xperia x1
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Good luck getting the camera working perfect on non Xperia ROMs.
DRM is nasty on Sony phones, not to mention the lack of development.

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Good luck getting the camera working perfect on non Xperia ROMs.
DRM is nasty on Sony phones, not to mention the lack of development.
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Every phone have cons and pros however end of day it your choice.
No matter what mercedes always mercedes. It can not be honda.

I had a P20 Pro, sold it for a OnePlus 6 which I didn't like. Sold the 1+6, got a Samsung S9 which had terrible battery life (charging it twice a day FFS).
Just picked up another P20 Pro today, used it hard the last 8 hours installing my apps and doing 4 system updates and it's still above 50% battery. It's very hard to beat the P20 Pro without spending a fortune.

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I had a P20 Pro, sold it for a OnePlus 6 which I didn't like. Sold the 1+6, got a Samsung S9 which had terrible battery life (charging it twice a day FFS).
Just picked up another P20 Pro today, used it hard the last 8 hours installing my apps and doing 4 system updates and it's still above 50% battery. It's very hard to beat the P20 Pro without spending a fortune.
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Yes i totally agree with you thats why i cancelled my ebay listing. I am going to stick with my p20 pro.
After my xZ premium thisn was only suitable upgrade based on my daily use