Double-tap to wake up is not working? - Sony Xperia X Performance Questions & Answers

I'm using Nova launcher on my X Performance, and I allowed the double-tap to wake up function. However, I am not able to wake my XP on with only 2 taps, I almost need to tap continuously to wake it up, for about 6 to 7 times. Even I use the original launcher Xperia Home, the tap to wake function is not working perfectly.
On the other hand, when I switch to the Xperia Home and use the double-tap to sleep function, it works every single time.
I didn't activate the Stamina mode so I believe the tap function is not restricted by the Stamina. I'm wondering this is due to the memory management of Android Marshmallow (The apps is more easily to restart on XP comparing with my old phone Z2 which is still using Android 5.X)?
Does anyone using X Performance also facing this problem? Any solution to this?

chrisyuhc said:
I'm using Nova launcher on my X Performance, and I allowed the double-tap to wake up function. However, I am not able to wake my XP on with only 2 taps, I almost need to tap continuously to wake it up, for about 6 to 7 times. Even I use the original launcher Xperia Home, the tap to wake function is not working perfectly.
On the other hand, when I switch to the Xperia Home and use the double-tap to sleep function, it works every single time.
I didn't activate the Stamina mode so I believe the tap function is not restricted by the Stamina. I'm wondering this is due to the memory management of Android Marshmallow (The apps is more easily to restart on XP comparing with my old phone Z2 which is still using Android 5.X)?
Does anyone using X Performance also facing this problem? Any solution to this?
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if you have a screen protector, it does not work well.

chrisyuhc said:
I'm using Nova launcher on my X Performance, and I allowed the double-tap to wake up function. However, I am not able to wake my XP on with only 2 taps, I almost need to tap continuously to wake it up, for about 6 to 7 times. Even I use the original launcher Xperia Home, the tap to wake function is not working perfectly.
On the other hand, when I switch to the Xperia Home and use the double-tap to sleep function, it works every single time.
I didn't activate the Stamina mode so I believe the tap function is not restricted by the Stamina. I'm wondering this is due to the memory management of Android Marshmallow (The apps is more easily to restart on XP comparing with my old phone Z2 which is still using Android 5.X)?
Does anyone using X Performance also facing this problem? Any solution to this?
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Hey Chrisy,
I didn't have any issues with it working, but I did notice the option for double-tap to sleep was ONLY available when Home Launcher was set as default. I too have used Nova FOR YEARS, but I like double-tap to sleep too much, so I am using Home Launcher as well. lol
I would maybe try a factory reset and if that doesn't work, I would return the phone and get a replacement. Unless you do use a screen protector (which I don't)? Then perhaps kms' statement does apply to you and you just need to remove it? If not, and factory reset doesn't fix it, I'd return it. Could be a sign of other issues to come.

RockStar2005 said:
Hey Chrisy,
I didn't have any issues with it working, but I did notice the option for double-tap to sleep was ONLY available when Home Launcher was set as default. I too have used Nova FOR YEARS, but I like double-tap to sleep too much, so I am using Home Launcher as well. lol
I would maybe try a factory reset and if that doesn't work, I would return the phone and get a replacement. Unless you do use a screen protector (which I don't)? Then perhaps kms' statement does apply to you and you just need to remove it? If not, and factory reset doesn't fix it, I'd return it. Could be a sign of other issues to come.
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kms108 said:
if you have a screen protector, it does not work well.
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Thanks for reply.
Yes, I'm using a glass screen protector. Maybe I will consider to remove it or change it in later time, since I don't want to waste it lol
I've bought and used Nova for a long time (I loves its backup function), but now I switch to the Home Launcher too lol At least the Home Launcher is customizable (though not as much as Nova does). Nova offers the tap-to-sleep function too, but it seems that on Marshmallow (or Sony device exclusively? I don't know), once the device is locked by third party apps, you cannot unlock it again with fingerprints (passcode/pin/pattern is needed to unlock in this situation). If I use Nova to tap-to-sleep, I need to use passcode to unlock it and the fingerprint sensor would do nothing. Sigh

chrisy,
YW.
Oh ok. Then that's most likely it then. Up to you when and/or if you want to remove it. lol
Yeah I used Nova's backup option too before. Yeah I'm glad Home lets you customize some things at least.
Yeah the lockscreen gets in the way and you have to enter PIN each time, which pretty much KILLS any enjoyment had with having the fingerprint scanner. lol I think the same issue happened on my S7, so I don't think it's just Sony (fortunately).
Nova is better but in this case it just makes more sense to stick with Home. I take screenshots of my apps that are on my desktop so on future phones I will know exactly which ones to put there w/o having to think about it. I recommend doing that too since Home doesn't have a backup feature like the one Nova does.

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Swipe to screenshot does not work with Nova Launcher, annoying IR remote on lock scr

Can anyone confirm that motion sensors and motion guided commands do not work when you do NOT use Touch Wiz? I am using Nova Launcher and the hand swipe to screenshot does not work.
Also, I tested out the IR Remote control app which worked great but now even after i close the app, on my lock screen, the remote functions are still there.
http://i.imgur.com/L4f6dwp.png
It hasn't gone away since last night. I closed out, closed process etc, still just hangs around the lock screen. When i press the channel/volume buttons from the lock screen, the blue light shines showing that it is currently activated and on. I believe this is a possible bug. I'm worried it's draining my battery as well. Please help.
Bonus help: how do you change the background on the lock screen?
chillsen said:
Can anyone confirm that motion sensors and motion guided commands do not work when you do NOT use Touch Wiz? I am using Nova Launcher and the hand swipe to screenshot does not work.
Also, I tested out the IR Remote control app which worked great but now even after i close the app, on my lock screen, the remote functions are still there.
http://i.imgur.com/L4f6dwp.png
It hasn't gone away since last night. I closed out, closed process etc, still just hangs around the lock screen. When i press the channel/volume buttons from the lock screen, the blue light shines showing that it is currently activated and on. I believe this is a possible bug. I'm worried it's draining my battery as well. Please help.
Bonus help: how do you change the background on the lock screen?
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On the S4 there's a setting within the app where you can disable the lock screen and notification panel settings. You'd think that they should still be there on the S5. Open the app, go to the menu and check the settings there.
dwanhala said:
On the S4 there's a setting within the app where you can disable the lock screen and notification panel settings. You'd think that they should still be there on the S5. Open the app, go to the menu and check the settings there.
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I'm an idiot http://i.imgur.com/gkiDuqF.png
who woulda known it would be defaulted to always showing on lock screen even when app is closed. haha....
chillsen said:
I'm an idiot http://i.imgur.com/gkiDuqF.png
who woulda known it would be defaulted to always showing on lock screen even when app is closed. haha....
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Yeah, that drove me nuts too when I first used the feature on my S4.....Hopefully getting the S5 and Gear Neo this weekend.
Swipe to screenshot works fine for me with Next Launcher 3D.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900A using xda app-developers app
i figure swipe to capture out, your hand had to actually glide ON the screen. This whole time I thought it was an air motion that the sensors on the front caught. it isn't that at all but based on the hand touching the actual glass. I guess this is what happens for first time Samsung users... mods feel free to delete this thread.
SOLVED! I had the same issue (swipe screen grab not working) and tried everything with my Galaxy S6 after I installed Marshmallow and also Nova launcher for first time. Not sure which one caused it... Anyway, after going through a million "fixes" that didn't work, this one finally did!
- Go to your phone dialer and dial: *#2663#
- That will bring up a developer menu. Once you're in the menu press the button titled "TSP FW Update (General)". Let it got through the update (just a few seconds) and viola!!! You're swipe screen grab or any other touch screen weirdness work perfectly again!
Thanks . Solved even S pen problem on screen capture

Recent Apps Menu & Lock Screen - AOSP Style

Hey guys,
considering the Mate S but don't really like the way recent apps menu looks and works. Did anyone replace it with something more stock like?
Does the app Fancy Switcher work with the Mate S, could somebody check this please?
And what about the lock screen - has anybody replaced that with an alternative lock screen app? Will the fingerprint scanner still unlock the device using an alternative lock screen?
Thx for your answers,
vercetti.
vercetti said:
Hey guys,
considering the Mate S but don't really like the way recent apps menu looks and works. Did anyone replace it with something more stock like?
Does the app Fancy Switcher work with the Mate S, could somebody check this please?
And what about the lock screen - has anybody replaced that with an alternative lock screen app? Will the fingerprint scanner still unlock the device using an alternative lock screen?
Thx for your answers,
vercetti.
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Hi, here in the UK on the latest build for Lollipop I was unable to install Fancy Switcher, as it said it wasn't compatible with my device.
I'm not very keen on the stock recents however I believe the marshmallow update change's this from 4 apps on a screen to a single app per screen
Lock screen, not very nice and ability to set apps as sensitive to stop them displaying the app sender or message (for example in WhatsApp) which is something I really miss from previous Lollipop and Marshmallow that I had on a HTC One M8 running Google Play Edition. I've tried 'Next' lock screen app from Microsoft but unable to unlock with fingerprint so its probably only a function that works with the stock lock screen. As Marshmallow has native support for fingerprint sensors maybe the update will bring additional functionality however we will have to wait and see.
I did register for Marshmallow beta testing but don't appear to have been selected unless rollout is slow.
I like the phone but almost wish I had waiting and tried a Mate 8. The extra battery size and already on Marshmallow may make it a better choice.
I've always been a stock android or custom ROM person however I quite like some features of the EMUI skin...just wish there were a few more customisations and built in features that were enabled as standard...like the ability to change the cycle date of your mobile data plan.
Gavin
hey gavin,
thx for the nice reply.
the recent apps menu in marshmallow makes it even worse if only 1 app is available per screen. to get to the 5th app you'd have to swipe 5 times (compared to now with just one swipe)! that really sucks - 1 app per screen?!?
too bad about fancy switcher, that would look nice if it worked. i found switcher so far but it doesn't work 100% on my note 2. would you try that one out for me?
lock screen - how are notifactions presented? would you have a screenshot? and they can be swiped away right from the lockscreen?
thx for your help,
vercetti.
hey,
i just saw a video on youtube of emui 4 and the recent apps menu could be seen for short time.
it's improved a lot for my taste: yes, you can only see one app but you flick it to the left and all the others appear. so you only need one swipe to make the other apps slide into appearance and you can swipe them away if they're not wanted anymore.
so yes, you only see one app once the menu is opened but it's seemless once you start swiping.
here's the link to the video. there are probably much better videos, i just came across this one.
the recent apps menu appears on 00:10 seconds.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPgATGXaFcA
greetz,
v.
p.s. in the 5 seconds you see the person using the recent apps menu it looks very laggy/unresponsive but i suppose it's a demo or prototype phone. i'm sure it works fine.
vercetti said:
hey,
i just saw a video on youtube of emui 4 and the recent apps menu could be seen for short time.
it's improved a lot for my taste: yes, you can only see one app but you flick it to the left and all the others appear. so you only need one swipe to make the other apps slide into appearance and you can swipe them away if they're not wanted anymore.
so yes, you only see one app once the menu is opened but it's seemless once you start swiping.
here's the link to the video. there are probably much better videos, i just came across this one.
the recent apps menu appears on 00:10 seconds.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPgATGXaFcA
greetz,
v.
p.s. in the 5 seconds you see the person using the recent apps menu it looks very laggy/unresponsive but i suppose it's a demo or prototype phone. i'm sure it works fine.
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I had just tried Switchr, not sure if I was using it correctly but when I swiped in from the side it said "No Recent Apps" although I had just opened WhatsApp and Clock.
With regards to Lock Screen, I have't got a screenshot at the moment, but what I can say is you can swipe left to remove the lock screen notification or swipe right to open the app that the notification has come from, this presents the numeric pad for you to enter your unlock pin, but just touch the fingerprint reader and the phone unlocks.
Regards
Gavin
brumgav said:
I had just tried Switchr, not sure if I was using it correctly but when I swiped in from the side it said "No Recent Apps" although I had just opened WhatsApp and Clock.
With regards to Lock Screen, I have't got a screenshot at the moment, but what I can say is you can swipe left to remove the lock screen notification or swipe right to open the app that the notification has come from, this presents the numeric pad for you to enter your unlock pin, but just touch the fingerprint reader and the phone unlocks.
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Gavin
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Thx Gavin,
that's exactly what happens with my note 2 when i install Switcher. The only thing that worked is to set up favorite apps within the Switcher app. Then it will always show you the icons of those apps. But without a preview of the app, just the icon.
I found a few more videos on youtube with Emui 4.0 and i'd be fine with their latest version of the recent apps menu. And it's just a matter of time til the Mate S gets the marshmallow update.
About the lockscreen: so even if i don't activate a pin code, sliding a notification to the right to open the app will still bring me to a numberpad where i should enter a pin? and then i'd have unlock that with the fingerprint ID? sounds very weird. i can't just slide the notifation to the right and it opens the app diectly?
thx,
v.
vercetti said:
Thx Gavin,
that's exactly what happens with my note 2 when i install Switcher. The only thing that worked is to set up favorite apps within the Switcher app. Then it will always show you the icons of those apps. But without a preview of the app, just the icon.
I found a few more videos on youtube with Emui 4.0 and i'd be fine with their latest version of the recent apps menu. And it's just a matter of time til the Mate S gets the marshmallow update.
About the lockscreen: so even if i don't activate a pin code, sliding a notification to the right to open the app will still bring me to a numberpad where i should enter a pin? and then i'd have unlock that with the fingerprint ID? sounds very weird. i can't just slide the notifation to the right and it opens the app diectly?
thx,
v.
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I think I got that slightly wrong...it appears you can not dismiss a notification from the lockscreen by sliding left, however once unlocked you can dissmiss all notification by double tap on fingerprint reader
If you are using the fingerprint ID you have to set a PIN....but what I meant was if you slide the notification to the right...it brings up the screen to unlock so you can either enter the PIN or you can press the finger print reader....you dont have to do both of them.
I guess if you dont set a PIN or fingerprint then it will just open the app but i prefer the security of having my phone locked securely with fingerprint.
brumgav said:
I think I got that slightly wrong...it appears you can not dismiss a notification from the lockscreen by sliding left, however once unlocked you can dissmiss all notification by double tap on fingerprint reader.
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too bad you cannot get rid of the notifications right off the lockscreen.
instead unlock -> pull down status bar -> double tap fingerprint
If you are using the fingerprint ID you have to set a PIN....but what I meant was if you slide the notification to the right...it brings up the screen to unlock so you can either enter the PIN or you can press the finger print reader....you dont have to do both of them.
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and this will get me to the app? in whatsapp for example, will it jump into the conversation where the new message has been posted or it will simply open whatsapp and present the conversation list?
thx,
v.
vercetti said:
too bad you cannot get rid of the notifications right off the lockscreen.
instead unlock -> pull down status bar -> double tap fingerprint
and this will get me to the app? in whatsapp for example, will it jump into the conversation where the new message has been posted or it will simply open whatsapp and present the conversation list?
thx,
v.
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When on the lock screen - you can't pull down the status bar or the quick settings tiles at all.....(now that is dissappointing) as I would like to be able to quickly disable mobile data something without unlocking or turn off GPS without unlocking.
With WhatsApp it takes you straight to the conversation that the message was posted in.
brumgav said:
When on the lock screen - you can't pull down the status bar or the quick settings tiles at all.....(now that is dissappointing) as I would like to be able to quickly disable mobile data something without unlocking or turn off GPS without unlocking.
With WhatsApp it takes you straight to the conversation that the message was posted in.
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Thx on the Whatsapp-notification-clarification
Yeah, i heard that you can't pull down status bar on lockscreen. That is really a pity.
But the doubletap to wake and/or the fast fingerprint scanner can perhaps compensate this issue. Double tap and then pull down the status bar. Oh wait, double tap probably only wakes the device up again, right? That'll just take you to the unlock screen which, then again, has to be unlocked...
Lots of little "problems". Maybe i could get used to them. I'm sure there are more than just the lock screen, right?
How are you getting along coming from AOSP?
Have you rooted? That would be my top priority. Changing DPI is a must to me.
greetz,
v.
vercetti said:
Thx on the Whatsapp-notification-clarification
Yeah, i heard that you can't pull down status bar on lockscreen. That is really a pity.
But the doubletap to wake and/or the fast fingerprint scanner can perhaps compensate this issue. Double tap and then pull down the status bar. Oh wait, double tap probably only wakes the device up again, right? That'll just take you to the unlock screen which, then again, has to be unlocked...
Lots of little "problems". Maybe i could get used to them. I'm sure there are more than just the lock screen, right?
How are you getting along coming from AOSP?
Have you rooted? That would be my top priority. Changing DPI is a must to me.
greetz,
v.
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The double tap on the fingerprint scanner only works when the phone is unlocked. Once unlocked u can swipe down on the fingerprint scanner to bring down notification bar and then double tap fingerprint scanner to clear all the notification, this is really nice feature.
I really miss some of the AOSP things but its outweighed by some the fact of having a fingerprint scanner...The guest mode is great, either set a different PIN (or for a family member register one of their fingerprints) and if they want to use your phone they can use it in guest mode so they can only see, Apps that you allow them to see, and galleries that you allow them to see), plus you can also lock Apps so that they require a fingerprint to open which is good too, perhaps for your banking app or something like that.
I did root, but unrooted in order to allow an OTA update to be installed.
I also wiped the phone and converted it to a chinese variant which brings lots of chinese bloatware (uninstalled) but some extra features like permissions manager, virus scanner, mobile data plan cycle date manager..
I'm back converted to a european variant now though becuase I registered to be MM beta tester although I dont seem to have been accepted yet, unless they havent released to the UK yet. I'm still waiting for it to come OTA.
I'm really hoping that the MM update and EMUI 4.0 update bring lots of new features.
I brought an iPhone 6 Plus a month ago to have a look at it, as I had the opportunity to buy one, have a play and sell it without making a loss and I admit I really quite liked some of its features...considering the CPU the iPhones are so fast but I hated the notification centre, Android really have a great notification system and I prefered being able to customise lots of features, particulary with ROMs like Cyanogen. I sold it and after seeing the Mate S online thought it looked great and thought performance would be better....for example graphics performance isn't very good at all...but I only play things like Clash of Clans, Boom Beach, Sim City not nothign that requires heavy frame rates. I'm sure it would handle games liek Asphalt okay but have't tried.
I have seen youtube videos comparing Galaxy S6 and Mate 8 (yes the bigger Mate S with better CPU) however the S6 still wsa very powerful on graphics.
Like I said, hopeing the MM and EMUI update brings some improvement however, for jsut a normal phone user that uses phone on train during morning commute for 40 minutes I'm more than happy with it. Finger print sensor on the rear is perfect, I've barely opened the front cover of my phone case and just natural position of my hand and first finger is perfect so the phone is unlocked ready for me. I think my thumb was at risk of being strained on my HTC One M8 which I had pattern unlock....when I look back I don't know how I managed to keep doing that pattern so many times, and also the risk that a pick pocket could learn my pattern over time.
Hope this is helping you.
brumgav said:
The double tap on the fingerprint scanner only works when the phone is unlocked. Once unlocked u can swipe down on the fingerprint scanner to bring down notification bar and then double tap fingerprint scanner to clear all the notification, this is really nice feature.
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hey, sorry for the mixup: i didn't mean the double tap on the fingerprint scanner but the feature "double tap to wake" which is somewhere in the emui settings. with that you simply doubletap the screen to wake it from standby but i'm guessing this won't unlock it, it will just activate the lockscreen.
I really miss some of the AOSP things but its outweighed by some the fact of having a fingerprint scanner...The guest mode is great, either set a different PIN (or for a family member register one of their fingerprints) and if they want to use your phone they can use it in guest mode so they can only see, Apps that you allow them to see, and galleries that you allow them to see), plus you can also lock Apps so that they require a fingerprint to open which is good too, perhaps for your banking app or something like that.
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those are all very nice features, yes. and the fingerprint scanner is also one of my reasons why i'm looking to upgrade.
i also think the camera results are good enough and that especially the camera app itself is nice (pro mode too).
i'm looking for a 5,5" screen with fingerprint scanner on the back (one reason why the oneplus2 doesn't match my interest even though otherwise it seems to be a nice phone too - its fingerprint sensor is on the home button like with the samsung models).
build quality is also great.
i usually would never go for a phone that doesn't have lots of custom roms available by the time i buy it. but somehow i think i'll be making an exception here. with an AOSP custom rom i would lose all the fingerprint sensor features, the camera app (its features and resulting images) and other EMUI features that i feel might come in handy (like you summed it up in your last post). so having this phone with an AOSP rom would make it sort of pointless in a way. the features we both miss from AOSP is the price we need to pay in order of getting all the mate s features. we just can't have it both i'm afraid
I did root, but unrooted in order to allow an OTA update to be installed.
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that's my plan. root it as soon as i get it. and once the marshmallow update is available i'd set it back, go stock, update to marshmallow and then root it again (hope it won't take long for someone to figure out how to root on marshmallow).
I also wiped the phone and converted it to a chinese variant which brings lots of chinese bloatware (uninstalled) but some extra features like permissions manager, virus scanner, mobile data plan cycle date manager..
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perhaps there are certain apps (root) that provide these features, instead of using the chinese mate s rom?
I'm back converted to a european variant now though becuase I registered to be MM beta tester although I dont seem to have been accepted yet, unless they havent released to the UK yet. I'm still waiting for it to come OTA.
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probably not out yet...
thought performance would be better....for example graphics performance isn't very good at all...but I only play things like Clash of Clans, Boom Beach, Sim City not nothign that requires heavy frame rates. I'm sure it would handle games liek Asphalt okay but have't tried.
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not really a gamer, so i don't worry too much about the limiting graphics performance.
Hope this is helping you.
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yes indeed, thanx a whole lot, i appreciate it very much.
greetz,
v.
vercetti said:
hey, sorry for the mixup: i didn't mean the double tap on the fingerprint scanner but the feature "double tap to wake" which is somewhere in the emui settings. with that you simply doubletap the screen to wake it from standby but i'm guessing this won't unlock it, it will just activate the lockscreen.
those are all very nice features, yes. and the fingerprint scanner is also one of my reasons why i'm looking to upgrade.
i also think the camera results are good enough and that especially the camera app itself is nice (pro mode too).
i'm looking for a 5,5" screen with fingerprint scanner on the back (one reason why the oneplus2 doesn't match my interest even though otherwise it seems to be a nice phone too - its fingerprint sensor is on the home button like with the samsung models).
build quality is also great.
i usually would never go for a phone that doesn't have lots of custom roms available by the time i buy it. but somehow i think i'll be making an exception here. with an AOSP custom rom i would lose all the fingerprint sensor features, the camera app (its features and resulting images) and other EMUI features that i feel might come in handy (like you summed it up in your last post). so having this phone with an AOSP rom would make it sort of pointless in a way. the features we both miss from AOSP is the price we need to pay in order of getting all the mate s features. we just can't have it both i'm afraid
that's my plan. root it as soon as i get it. and once the marshmallow update is available i'd set it back, go stock, update to marshmallow and then root it again (hope it won't take long for someone to figure out how to root on marshmallow).
perhaps there are certain apps (root) that provide these features, instead of using the chinese mate s rom?
probably not out yet...
not really a gamer, so i don't worry too much about the limiting graphics performance.
yes indeed, thanx a whole lot, i appreciate it very much.
greetz,
v.
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No problem, your welcome.
I just wish there was more stuff going on for this device, ROMs, support, chat etc...its very quiet hardly anyone replies to things in this forum.
brumgav said:
No problem, your welcome.
I just wish there was more stuff going on for this device, ROMs, support, chat etc...its very quiet hardly anyone replies to things in this forum.
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Yeah, no development...
But it's understable: most developers are proabably located in USA and hardly anyone owns a mate s there. also the processor is kirin and not qualcomm. not much info coming from huawei about their kirin processors (which the developers would need).
i have another question about looks:
i saw that there are many themes available from huawei and that they change many parts of the user interface. what happens with these themes if i use an alternative launcher, say nova launcher?
will nova launcher override the background pic of the lockscreen or generally the way the lockscreen looks or does the lockscreen stay untouched by nova? same goes for the notifications that appear once you pull down the status bar. will the background of the notification "curtain" stay unchanged or does nova change different things here? colors and icons in settings also are changed when using different huawei themes - do they stay intact when using an alternative launcher?
All my questions short: does Nova (or any other alternative launcher for what it matters) only change what it is known for - leaving everything else the way you set it up with one of the hundred huawei themes? hope yoou know what i mean.
ok, for better demonstration: take the attached pic here for example. from left to right will only screen #2 and #3 be changed and the lockscreen #1, quick toggles #4 and whatsapp #5 remain unaltered with the chosen huawei theme still intact?
thx,
v.
vercetti said:
Yeah, no development...
But it's understable: most developers are proabably located in USA and hardly anyone owns a mate s there. also the processor is kirin and not qualcomm. not much info coming from huawei about their kirin processors (which the developers would need).
i have another question about looks:
i saw that there are many themes available from huawei and that they change many parts of the user interface. what happens with these themes if i use an alternative launcher, say nova launcher?
will nova launcher override the background pic of the lockscreen or generally the way the lockscreen looks or does the lockscreen stay untouched by nova? same goes for the notifications that appear once you pull down the status bar. will the background of the notification "curtain" stay unchanged or does nova change different things here? colors and icons in settings also are changed when using different huawei themes - do they stay intact when using an alternative launcher?
All my questions short: does Nova (or any other alternative launcher for what it matters) only change what it is known for - leaving everything else the way you set it up with one of the hundred huawei themes? hope yoou know what i mean.
ok, for better demonstration: take the attached pic here for example. from left to right will only screen #2 and #3 be changed and the lockscreen #1, quick toggles #4 and whatsapp #5 remain unaltered with the chosen huawei theme still intact?
thx,
v.
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I'll try and take a look at a different launcher and the themes thing later tonight when home from work.
Just a quick point though, the lockscreen notifications only work with a particular lockscreen type called Magazine Unlock... This is a type of lockscreen that cycles through a gallery of images....not sure if the images are customisable.
Here is a snapshot of a normal lockscreen with limited notification details compared with the magazine lockscreen. You can see one has the message details and the other is very basic with just an icon.
hey, now that sucks! only magazine lockscreen gives you more info on notifications? all the others simply show the icon?!? wow, that is really disappointing...
thx for trying later today, can't wait!
from a quick internet search I think it's possible to stop the switching pix in the magazine lockscreen. also which pix should be used. so you can actually control which and also how many (or only 1) are used.
The Magazine lockscreen doesn’t necessarily cycle background images. You can set whatever single image you want. I have it set to the same as my normal wallpaper, so it looks like it just changes icons when you unlock.
Sadly the lockscreen is one of the worst features of EMUI. You can't pull down the notification bar, you can't dismiss notifications by side swiping, and you can't touch to open the notifications. The notifications also doesn't quit fit the EMUI theme, they are more material design. Some notifications won't show at all (yes, I turned it on), like Soundcloud. You do however get music control for Spotify, but this is a completely different lockscreen (which can't be changed). And then your notifications won't show up. I don't know how Huawei managed to scrap the stock lockscreen, which works very well and looks nice, and replace it with something far worse. You can install lockscreen apps, but you can't use them with the fingerprint scanner, so it's not really an option imho.
The app switcher, which was mentioned in the OP, I actually prefer to the stock android one. The most useful feature is that you can long press the app switcher icon to return to the last app (like Alt+Tab). As far as I understand, this not a stock feature, but from Cyanogen.
vercetti said:
i have another question about looks:
i saw that there are many themes available from huawei and that they change many parts of the user interface. what happens with these themes if i use an alternative launcher, say nova launcher?
will nova launcher override the background pic of the lockscreen or generally the way the lockscreen looks or does the lockscreen stay untouched by nova? same goes for the notifications that appear once you pull down the status bar. will the background of the notification "curtain" stay unchanged or does nova change different things here? colors and icons in settings also are changed when using different huawei themes - do they stay intact when using an alternative launcher?
All my questions short: does Nova (or any other alternative launcher for what it matters) only change what it is known for - leaving everything else the way you set it up with one of the hundred huawei themes? hope yoou know what i mean.
ok, for better demonstration: take the attached pic here for example. from left to right will only screen #2 and #3 be changed and the lockscreen #1, quick toggles #4 and whatsapp #5 remain unaltered with the chosen huawei theme still intact?
thx,
v.
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I use Nova launcher. It will override the icons from the EMUI themes. Nova does however not influence the lockscreen at all, nor the pulldown meny, settings menues or other apps. So yes to your last question.
Thx for clarifying this suprman.
Lockscreen doesn't sound very good unfortunately...
which theme and lockscreen do you use?
I read in older Huawei threads that one can change the lockscreen style. "halo" style got rid of the 4 standard shortcuts on the bottom (which to my knowledge are also not modifiable...) and instead let's you set up 4 custom shortcuts. but maybe huawei did away with this feature nowadays.
which design (theme) do you use?
thx,
vercetti.
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The Magazine lockscreen doesn’t necessarily cycle background images. You can set whatever single image you want. I have it set to the same as my normal wallpaper, so it looks like it just changes icons when you unlock.
Sadly the lockscreen is one of the worst features of EMUI. You can't pull down the notification bar, you can't dismiss notifications by side swiping, and you can't touch to open the notifications. The notifications also doesn't quit fit the EMUI theme, they are more material design. Some notifications won't show at all (yes, I turned it on), like Soundcloud. You do however get music control for Spotify, but this is a completely different lockscreen (which can't be changed). And then your notifications won't show up. I don't know how Huawei managed to scrap the stock lockscreen, which works very well and looks nice, and replace it with something far worse. You can install lockscreen apps, but you can't use them with the fingerprint scanner, so it's not really an option imho.
The app switcher, which was mentioned in the OP, I actually prefer to the stock android one. The most useful feature is that you can long press the app switcher icon to return to the last app (like Alt+Tab). As far as I understand, this not a stock feature, but from Cyanogen.
I use Nova launcher. It will override the icons from the EMUI themes. Nova does however not influence the lockscreen at all, nor the pulldown meny, settings menues or other apps. So yes to your last question.
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Thanks for the comments, that summarised what I was going to so with the themes later.
Did you know you can open the app from the lockscreen by swiping it to the right...and then touching fingerprint sensor?

First thoughts on X4 Pie

So I was curious what people thought after they got their Pie updates? (I'm still waiting)
-Is it faster/slower?
-Any change in battery life?
-Thoughts on Google gestures?
-Any other thoughts?
sleze said:
So I was curious what people thought after they got their Pie updates? (I'm still waiting)
-Is it faster/slower?
-Any change in battery life?
-Thoughts on Google gestures?
-Any other thoughts?
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Same speed for me.
Battery seems the same.
Gestures are worthless.
sleze said:
So I was curious what people thought after they got their Pie updates? (I'm still waiting)
-Is it faster/slower?
-Any change in battery life?
-Thoughts on Google gestures?
-Any other thoughts?
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Seems about the same speed/battery life for me.
The recent apps view is a big step backwards to me, the side scrolling cards is not as easy nor helpful as the vertical view was. I still think Samsung's multiwindow mode is better than Google's and I do not think 9.0 improved it.
Adding a dark theme is nice, but implementation is inconsistent. I am surprised basic things like the settings pages do not use it. But it is nice for the keyboard, messages, and phone.
I'd agree the new pill gesture setup isn't great. The motorola fingerprint gestures is nicer.
The tiny settings icon in the notification drop-down is annoying enough I've given up on it.
Other than some other gui changes (icons and the like), it isn't that different from 8.1.
That's kind of the impression I have been getting for a while. Our phones already have great battery life and moto actions.
I am losing excitement for this update...
It was faster, the battery runs faster than 8.1, I do not like gestures, even though I feel that applications still need to be polished for Pie.
Return to 8.1 for these last two dimensions.
Just installed the update tonight. Performance-wise, it feels the same. Don't know yet about the battery life, since I just got it about an hour ago.
I also found that the pill gesture setup was not up to par. It doesn't add anything extra to the original setup. It still occupies the same bottom screen space.
Dark mode is nice, but I wish it was implemented system wide instead of just by individual app. But probably this depends more on the app developers. But even system apps such as settings don't always have the dark mode.
Lastly, to access the gear settings icon, now you have to pull the notifications bar twice. Correct me if I'm wrong, wasn't it used to be just once?
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Lastly, to access the gear settings icon, now you have to pull the notifications bar twice. Correct me if I'm wrong, wasn't it used to be just once?
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Yes. I noticed this too. The gear was accessible from the notification bar.
I pretty much agree with what others have said so far. Based either on actual speed improvements, tweaks to the animations, or the update placebo effect, 9.0 does feel a bit snappier switching between apps than 8.1.
The only thing I don't like is that the update seems to have made SwiftKey fonts bigger which is mildly annoying.
Pretty disappointed with this version of Android. The recent apps is now destroyed. It's a worse way to interact with your recent apps. Don't even bother with the gestures. Totally half baked. One button nav is superior in every way. The notification pull down is just hideous. The clock is on the wrong side and no way to change it. Why there's no way to change it is beyond stupid. The dark theme option is extremely inconsistent. Won't even darken the settings window for instance. You now have to pull the notification share down twice to access settings versus only one with Oreo. Seems that we've lost a lot of functionality and are being told it's a feature. Perfect example are the volume controls. What a joke.
The whole thing just looks like an iPhone rip off. And the general graphic style sucks. Material design is dead.
Performance and battery seem to stay the same. Overall a poor effort from Google on this. Going to have to root this thing so I can deal with some of the idiotic things they decided to go with. Worst Android update since I can remember. Can't wait to go back to Oreo.
A couple more observations. The volume bar is now on the right side of the screen, next to the volume buttons. It also allows direct access to sound settings. I don't mind this as it feels more intuitive to me. If you long press the power button, now there's an option to take screenshot. I like this since I don't have to fumble again with two hands to take screenshot.
A big change is split screen. Previously, you can just long press the overview button to use split screen. Now you have to tap the overview button (or swipe up from the pill, if you use that), then long press on the icon on top of the app, then select split screen. If you use split screen a lot, this change is annoying to say the least.
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The clock is on the wrong side and no way to change it.
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That change throws me off. I keep looking for the clock on the right side. And I agree with you; Google copied some of iOS UI while kept some of their own, making it an inconsistent experience.
Fingerprint Lock
I can no longer lock my phone using the fingerprint sensor. I think this is a bug because it is selected in the "Lock Screen Preferences" settings but it does not lock the phone. This may seem like a small thing but it completely disrupts how I'm used to using the phone. I'm using the Google Fi Android One version.
mandarip said:
I can no longer lock my phone using the fingerprint sensor. I think this is a bug because it is selected in the "Lock Screen Preferences" settings but it does not lock the phone. This may seem like a small thing but it completely disrupts how I'm used to using the phone. I'm using the Google Fi Android One version.
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I am on the same version, and it works ok for me.
Edit: I am using One Button Nav
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I am on the same version, and it works ok for me.
Edit: I am using One Button Nav
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I don't seem to have the one button nav option. Unless I'm not looking in the right place - Moto Actions?
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I don't seem to have the one button nav option. Unless I'm not looking in the right place - Moto Actions?
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If you have the Android One variant, one button nav is disabled on it.
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If you have the Android One variant, one button nav is disabled on it.
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Yes, that's what I suspected and I suppose that could be the reason the fingerprint lock does not work after the update as well.
mandarip said:
I don't seem to have the one button nav option. Unless I'm not looking in the right place - Moto Actions?
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It is disabled in A1 version. You can get the option enabled by removing the following prop:
ro.mot.android_one
If you are using Magisk, there is a module that you can use for this:
MagiskHide Props Config
Confirmed that this works on Oreo and Pie.
Edit: updated 12/27
mandarip said:
Yes, that's what I suspected and I suppose that could be the reason the fingerprint lock does not work after the update as well.
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Fingerprint lock works on my Android One model without one button nav. Have you tried removing and adding your fingerprints again?
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Yes, that's what I suspected and I suppose that could be the reason the fingerprint lock does not work after the update as well.
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Fingerprint lock still works for me though. I also have A1 variant.
This update is underwhelming for me little changes that are just seemingly random and pointless. I'm especially disappointed that the update broke Google pay , prior to pie I've been taking ota's fine with no impact on gpay.
Jizzylax said:
Fingerprint lock works on my Android One model without one button nav. Have you tried removing and adding your fingerprints again?
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Yep tried that. It's weird because I can unlock the phone with my fingerprint but I can't lock it again. It's obviously recognizing the fingerprint but not for locking purposes.
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It is disabled in A1 version. You can get the option by removing the following prop:
ro.mot.android_one
I toggled it off and the fingerprint lock works. I would be curious to hear from others...
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I haven't rooted this phone yet, but this will be the first thing I do if I go that route.

Gestures

Hi, first of all, sorry my eng. I have a problem with the gestures of MIUI 10, I come from OP 5T, and I used the gestures, that was from 3 positions from bottom (bottom left, center and right) on MI 9, the gestures (as u maybe know) are botton center, and the 2 sides from the screen, and I can't get use of it because I dont like. So here go the question
Is possible to change the gestures on the phone? Like a setting or sort of, without third apps?
I have the bootloader unlocked and rooted with last magisk, so im open to modules and rooted things.
Thanks.
Edit: I buy and installed Vivid N.G. but sometimes the app fail and I lose the gestures and have to reset the device because dont have navigation buttons enabled.
I bought the same app(Vivid N.G.) and have been using it for a month.
The problem you're talking about is that the app has been forced to close.
The solution is...
First,
Make background settings unlimited in the setup app.
The default setting will be MIUI Battery Saver.
Second,
on the multitasking screen, press the navigation app on the lock icon to prevent it being forced to close.
I've been writing it for a month, just like I said.
I've never had a problem unless I intentionally shut down the app.
coey0814 said:
I bought the same app(Vivid N.G.) and have been using it for a month.
The problem you're talking about is that the app has been forced to close.
The solution is...
First,
Make background settings unlimited in the setup app.
The default setting will be MIUI Battery Saver.
Second,
on the multitasking screen, press the navigation app on the lock icon to prevent it being forced to close.
I've been writing it for a month, just like I said.
I've never had a problem unless I intentionally shut down the app.
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Nice! I'll try, thanks for your help

Question Bug with 3rd party launchers on OneUI 3.1 (default version)

As seen here, this is the most annoying bug on the phone now...
https://www.reddit.com/r/GalaxyTab/comments/l3wnhr
This is for people on One UI 3.1 using third party launchers. You might come across a bug where:
1.The launcher keeps stopping/force closing or
2. Exiting an app causes the screen to flash and does nothing if you touch the screen immediately after.
Any fixes or workarounds?
I've had this issue with Nova Launcher and my S21 Ultra. Haven't found a permanent fix for it as yet.
thats weird I have had my s21 ultra since 5 pm yesterday, thats the first thing I did was download Nova, that's all i use, and have not had any issues with what you guys are having.
2003vstrom said:
thats weird I have had my s21 ultra since 5 pm yesterday, thats the first thing I did was download Nova, that's all i use, and have not had any issues with what you guys are having.
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I believe we (AUS) owners are one firmware release behind (I'm on AUA4 with a build date of early Jan where the latest is AUAC with a build date later in Jan) so perhaps it's been fixed in the latest release?
If I use the Samsung gestures (swipe up from the bottom), Fluid Navigation gestures doesn't actually prevent those gestures from working for some reason (even after running the ADB command needed)
Devhux said:
If I use the Samsung gestures (swipe up from the bottom), Fluid Navigation gestures doesn't actually prevent those gestures from working for some reason (even after running the ADB command needed)
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Yes these bugs are unacceptable
I have this issue as well where swiping up to go home causes the screen to flash and become unresponsive for a second or so. It only happens with gesture navigation and a 3rd party launcher.
I'm on the update release January the 1st. Is there a chance this is fixed in an update already available in part of the world?
Never mind I already have AUAC. that does not fix it. We may need to report this bug to Samsung. Has anyone done that? Chances are a fix is coming since they did fix the rest of the issues that were on earlier oneui versions for gestures in 3rd party launchers.
Did anyone confirm this happens in all 3rd party launchers and not just Nova?
2003vstrom said:
thats weird I have had my s21 ultra since 5 pm yesterday, thats the first thing I did was download Nova, that's all i use, and have not had any issues with what you guys are having.
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Are you using gesture navigation? AFAIK it only affects the home gesture. Use Nova, launch an app. Swipe up from the bottom of the screen to go home and immediately after, try tapping an icon on the launcher screen to launch another app. You notice no unresponsive issue here?
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Are you using gesture navigation? AFAIK it only affects the home gesture. Use Nova, launch an app. Swipe up from the bottom of the screen to go home and immediately after, try tapping an icon on the launcher screen to launch another app. You notice no unresponsive issue here?
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I'm on UAC since yesterday evening but this issue only happened when I first got the phone on Monday. I went into Nova settings and set it as default launcher. Since then no issues at all.
I Infact replicated the steps you just mentioned and was not able to reproduce the issue. Using the Samsung swipe up navigation gestures for clarification
twisted_mind said:
I'm on UAC since yesterday evening but this issue only happened when I first got the phone on Monday. I went into Nova settings and set it as default launcher. Since then no issues at all.
I Infact replicated the steps you just mentioned and was not able to reproduce the issue. Using the Samsung swipe up navigation gestures for clarification
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That's interesting. Exynos version? I wonder what causes some of us (most?) to experience it but not you. I've set Nova as default in the system settings, not in Nova, but that should produce the same effect. Did you do anything else between the non working and the working state?
By Samsung swipe up, do you mean swipe up from the bottom in 3 different places rather than swiping screen left and right edges to go back? I use the version where you swipe left and right edges for back. Is that it perhaps?
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That's interesting. Exynos version? I wonder what causes some of us (most?) to experience it but not you. I've set Nova as default in the system settings, not in Nova, but that should produce the same effect. Did you do anything else between the non working and the working state?
By Samsung swipe up, do you mean swipe up from the bottom in 3 different places rather than swiping screen left and right edges to go back? I use the version where you swipe left and right edges for back. Is that it perhaps?
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Yes exynos. India variant. And yes for your last question too. I prefer the swipe up gestures because using the side swipe with a case I couldn't get it to work reliably.
I'm sorry I couldn't find the setting for this in the settings menu so when I first experienced this issue I simply set nova as default through its own settings.
Also I had used smartswitch cable transfer to migrate all data apps and settings over from the S20+
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Yes exynos. India variant. And yes for your last question too. I prefer the swipe up gestures because using the side swipe with a case I couldn't get it to work reliably.
I'm sorry I couldn't find the setting for this in the settings menu so when I first experienced this issue I simply set nova as default through its own settings.
Also I had used smartswitch cable transfer to migrate all data apps and settings over from the S20+
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Oh I saw just now that this is already stated in the top post. I couldn't see the quoted area on my mobile, now I see it. The bug is only present with google gestures and there's a hint on how to bypass the problem with one hand +, I'll try that now.
TigerSoul925 said:
Are you using gesture navigation? AFAIK it only affects the home gesture. Use Nova, launch an app. Swipe up from the bottom of the screen to go home and immediately after, try tapping an icon on the launcher screen to launch another app. You notice no unresponsive issue here?
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yeah I`m old school and just use the buttons at the bottom, I don`t care for navigation gestures, that would explain why I don`t have the issues, lol
2003vstrom said:
yeah I`m old school and just use the buttons at the bottom, I don`t care for navigation gestures, that would explain why I don`t have the issues, lol
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Yeah saw just now that it does not affect the Samsung style gestures.
Thanks for this thread, this was driving me crazy, i tried Action Launcher, Niagra, Smart Launcher and they all have the stutter when you return to then home screen when using android 11 gestures. Samsung gestures fixes but my muscle memory is to swipe from the sides for back so i'm struggling with it. Currently back to the One UI launcher to be able to use android gestures seamlessly. Hoping for a fix to this in future updates to OneUI but doubtful!
orbital247 said:
Thanks for this thread, this was driving me crazy, i tried Action Launcher, Niagra, Smart Launcher and they all have the stutter when you return to then home screen when using android 11 gestures. Samsung gestures fixes but my muscle memory is to swipe from the sides for back so i'm struggling with it. Currently back to the One UI launcher to be able to use android gestures seamlessly. Hoping for a fix to this in future updates to OneUI but doubtful!
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Use one handed operations+ from play/galaxy store. I hated android 11 swipe from left to go back, because I'm used to open menu in many apps from the left side and now it was going back, with oho+ i have swipe back from right and normal left side without any commands, also that app is OP so you can customise it even more
Wrong alert, still not solving the gesture when you swipe from south to north (down to u
mankvl said:
Use one handed operations+ from play/galaxy store. I hated android 11 swipe from left to go back, because I'm used to open menu in many apps from the left side and now it was going back, with oho+ i have swipe back from right and normal left side without any commands, also that app is OP so you can customise it even more
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Fantastic, this does the job perfectly, if you were here I'd hug you right now
Does not solve the gesture usage on the bottom.
I have a different issue wherein even tough I have set Nova as the default launcher, after a reboot, One UI launcher is set as default again. This doesn't happen all the time though but just random.

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