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I haven't received my Galaxy S yet but everytime I use my friend's I think the screen is just too blueish. Mostly the white parts. And I also think a "square field" is visible all over the screen. Is this because the resolution is too low compared to the size?
The phone itself is great so I still want it, but I'm afraid the screen will make me disapointed, especially since I've read so much about the Super AMOLED is so great.
Are all Galaxy S' screens like this?
What is the "square field"? please explain better.
And let's start from clearing the point of resolution/size-
800X480 is more than enough to go up to 7". If anything, it might be the pentile matrix that the screen uses.
I guess it's these "squares" I see: http://www.engadget.com/photos/iphone-4-vs-samsung-galaxy-s-display-face-off/#3115591
You're probably right that it's more the pentile matrix I notice more than lack of resolution.
I cant understand why many reviews says this screen is very good when it's very noticable.
I've seen mentions of different Galaxy S phones having different colour temperatures, though mine seems fairly cool.
PenTile does, unfortunately, make text less sharp, and there is a bit of a screen-door effect (I think that's the term you're looking for). It's a tradeoff for having a Super AMOLED screen - excellent contrast and very bright, but not as good as a TFT for text. I've become accustomed to it though, despite my misgivings (but a non-PenTile SAMOLED really would be the best screen without question).
Mithent said:
I've seen mentions of different Galaxy S phones having different colour temperatures, though mine seems fairly cool.
PenTile does, unfortunately, make text less sharp, and there is a bit of a screen-door effect (I think that's the term you're looking for). It's a tradeoff for having a Super AMOLED screen - excellent contrast and very bright, but not as good as a TFT for text. I've become accustomed to it though, despite my misgivings (but a non-PenTile SAMOLED really would be the best screen without question).
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What's the good side with PenTile? And yes, I've searched for "screen-door effect" and it seems as if that is what I'm seeing.
Yes, Galaxy S display seems to have quite high colour temperature. You can sort of calibrate it using the calibration app that was developed for Nexus One a while ago and is now part of CM6, but you have to run Froyo, install it manually and lose video overlay, so it's not really usable right now. Nevertheless I've managed to calibrate my SGS to more or less 6500K using it.
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Yes, Galaxy S display seems to have quite high colour temperature. You can sort of calibrate it using the calibration app that was developed for Nexus One a while ago and is now part of CM6, but you have to run Froyo, install it manually and lose video overlay, so it's not really usable right now. Nevertheless I've managed to calibrate my SGS to more or less 6500K using it.
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What is the downside of losing video overlay?
Not being able to play back videos and shoot pictures and videos Or, to be precise - you can do all of that, but all you see is white screen
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Not being able to play back videos and shoot pictures and videos Or, to be precise - you can do all of that, but all you see is white screen
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Oh. Well, guess I'm not going with that solution then
But since it can be done through software, does it mean that Samsung could make an update and fix this?
I had this on my old galaxy S and coming from the x10's tft it was painfully obvious the white colour had a blue/green tint to it. I then got it replaced and the tint was still there but not so obvious. Now after a while the white colour looks perfect white. I think my eyes have adjusted or something.
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I had this on my old galaxy S and coming from the x10's tft it was painfully obvious the white colour had a blue/green tint to it. I then got it replaced and the tint was still there but not so obvious now after a while the white colour looks perfect white. I think my eyes have adjusted or something.
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Ok, guess I'll have to wait until I get my before I know how bad it is.
My friend got a blueish Galaxy S I9000. Mine isnt that much!! Next to his looks like mine is Redish, but mine next to my Monitor looks blueish! I believe some Screens have more blue tint than others
Mine is very white. Put the phone on a white screen (using a screen torch app) and the screen looks whiter than a piece of white paper.
Hey all, keep us updated if there's any application that can change the color temperature without affecting the functionality.
I got the phone a few days ago and my friend's is defenitly more blueish than mine. I dont notice the screen-door effect anymore so I'm very very happy with it.
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I´ve read something on a German Mobile Phone Review Site (don´t know the which one it was now) and they said, that this is normal, because of the AMOLED Tecnology. They said that the Colors will loose the intensity over the years and as blue is the most energetic Color in the spectrum it looses faster the intensity. That is why it looks now maybe a little bit diferent. After a while it should normalise, because it was planned by the manufactures.
Ok found the Site. Heres the translation:
Higher blue components of the display of the Galaxy S may have been deliberately created by Samsung with the idea that the blue OLEDs are aging much faster than green or red. After months of use should mitigate this effect and color balance to be balanced.
djr83 said:
But since it can be done through software, does it mean that Samsung could make an update and fix this?
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They could do that if they wanted to, yes. But don't expect them to do so, I don't think colour temperature is of any importance to them if it stays within usable range.
zeusalmighty said:
Hey all, keep us updated if there's any application that can change the color temperature without affecting the functionality.
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Got this tip a while ago on some other thread - you can start Video player, play some video, go to Settings and change the Colour tone to Warm. It stays changed even when you leave the player. It's not perfect, but it helps a bit.
rocketpaul said:
I had this on my old galaxy S and coming from the x10's tft it was painfully obvious the white colour had a blue/green tint to it. I then got it replaced and the tint was still there but not so obvious. Now after a while the white colour looks perfect white. I think my eyes have adjusted or something.
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Actually, YES! Your eye do adjust to the white that you are looking at.
You've been doing this all of your life and haven't noticed it. The light in the morning is a very different color than the light at noon. In the morning, it is likely very red if the weather is good, and very white at noon... yet everything looks normal to you... because your eyes adapt to the color.
Adjusting to your screen is the same way. But compare it side by side with another screen and one or the other is going to look "wrong", usually the one you haven't been staring at all day!
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I got the phone a few days ago and my friend's is defenitly more blueish than mine. I dont notice the screen-door effect anymore so I'm very very happy with it.
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Congratulations, your brain has created a special filter, using a process called "adaption", by the human vision scientists, that blocks the screen-door effect. You didn't know it, but your brain created one years ago that blocked out the 'striped-lawn' effect caused by the columns of RGB subpixels on conventional color displays. That 'striped-lawn' effect was just as visible the first time you saw one, but that was likely many years ago.
Okay so this blue tint thing is somewhat strange, still no clear answers.
Some people are saying "this is normal for super amoleds." I have to disagree. If this was normal, then every single Super Amoled would have this blue tint. I've put my samsung galaxy s vibrant side by side next to the samsung galaxy s epic, fascinate, captivate and other vibrants. Some have a blue tint, and others don't. Others have nice rich whites, while some like mine have a blue tint.
Makes no sense, so I'm not buying the "all super amoleds have this blue tint" statement. They don't all have them!
I've used my phone for over 2 months now, and the blue tint is not fading at all. Something else people said. I don't plan to keep this phone for 10 years, waiting for the blue to fade, I want nice white now, not blue whites.
Anyone have any updates on this blue tint some galaxy s phones show?
Hi
i have two Samsung galaxy s i9000
One screen looks a bit dull and slightly pink and the other looks really clear.
The dull one is old.
Both have been flashed with the same Rom and are both set us the same
They should be all the same. Are both phones the same origin-carrier?
Sounds like a problem with the pinkish one. Is your kernel voodoo color enabled ?
(But if the phone is old, it may be that the screen is getting, well, used.)
we sell phones, we have brand new and second hand units, regarding the lcd... sometimes if we change lcd screen theres a different resolution between the china-made lcd which is cheaper than the original lcd we sell. did you.change the kcd before? is it second hand unit
Neither phone has had a screen replaced. I've had both from new.
The pink on is 14 months old and the other is two months old.
Only noticed the old one looks poor when i got the new one.
Ill try take a pic.
Will have to use each phone to do it no camera.
A video of quadrant would really show you. Ill see if i can use my mates phone later
Im sure i read somewhere ages ago that the screen can get burnt like with the really old big back monitors do you think it could be that.
There are no marks like battery or the signal bars like you would expect.
Its like someone messed with the colour and contrast or something
they are both amoled screens, right?
usually it shoult last longer than one year, but amoled has a really short lifetime, compaired to all anorganic screens (e. g. LCD)
expecially the blue subpixels (physicaly more energetic than read light) gets weard out a lot faster
and organic screens get weard faster if they get hot or warmer than they should (cooling the screen extends lifetime (in a bag <-> close to the body)
but this are just some background informations, i cant really imagine that a amoled screen is used up in around a year
try to flash a new and a same ROM
then tell us
this may reset all reselutıon parameter on both of them
Maybe the new one is Galaxy SL. Samsung stopped production on i9000 and started making i9003 with super clear LCD displays. Maybe the new one is that.
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But amoled has better quality than sc-lcd
But Super amoled screen display a pinkish white when viewed from the side. This was eleminated when Samsung put sclcd displays. So, the old one may be amoled and new one sclcd
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But amoled has better quality than sc-lcd
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AMOLED has better black and bright colors, but it's less clear and has problems with some colors. Mine, for example, has problems with gray: it looks terrible and it turns to red on lower brightness. AMOLEDs are also very different, one producted batch of screens can be pinkish, other one - blueish, third one - yellowish.
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AMOLED has better black and bright colors, but it's less clear and has problems with some colors. Mine, for example, has problems with gray: it looks terrible and it turns to red on lower brightness. AMOLEDs are also very different, one producted batch of screens can be pinkish, other one - blueish, third one - yellowish.
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Thats right, middle brightness is not so clear.
Anyone having the same issue as me? Cause it seems that My set that I just gotten today (Green color) has the usual yellow tint that is slightly visible, but not as serious as the z2. Can be seen when placed side by side the retail demos of z3 and z3c, it seemed like there may be different manufacturers for the display as well. It's not cool white anymore.
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Anyone having the same issue as me? Cause it seems that My set that I just gotten today (Green color) has the usual yellow tint that is slightly visible, but not as serious as the z2. Can be seen when placed side by side the retail demos of z3 and z3c, it seemed like there may be different manufacturers for the display as well. It's not cool white anymore.
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Yes there are different manufacturer, mine also has less white whites than another unit. But overall mine has better contrast so... As for the yellow screen it is not necessarily a bad calibration as displays whites are usually too blue in comparison to daylight "real white".
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Yes there are different manufacturer, mine also has less white whites than another unit. But overall mine has better contrast so... As for the yellow screen it is not necessarily a bad calibration as displays whites are usually too blue in comparison to daylight "real white".
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Ahhh I know right. The color actually looks decent, due to it being slightly yellow, but mine has slightly more yellow, nearing the z2 one. So I'm going to go down service center to check tomorrow.
Anyone having issues with their screens?
I have a red tint near the top right corner.. the bottom left is more bright than the top... it appears like a gradient accross the screen... noticable on dark greys... What should I do? is it a defect or are all devices like this?
Help please. any inputs will be appreciated.
How low is your brightness and is it set to adaptive?
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How low is your brightness and is it set to adaptive?
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The brightness is set to full, adaptive is off. When set to full, the tint is low but noticable.. when set to 50% the tint becomes more prominent.. and I do not have a problem with the tint.. it is just that it is not uniform.. the top right is tinted while the rest of the display is not.. it is really disturbing when reading an email or typing in landscape.
I think color uniformity issues are quite common on this device. You see some threads on reddit and also here on xda about this issue, most people have some sort of yellow or red tint on parts of their displays. The display of my Nexus 6 is a bit more yellow to the lower right of the screen, however I really only notice it on higher brightness with darker colors in apps like Google Camera or the Material Dark keyboard theme. It used to bug me in the beginning, but I somehow got used to it. I don't see the need for an RMA and get a potentially worse device with other defects as mine is perfect otherwise.
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I think color uniformity issues are quite common on this device. You see some threads on reddit and also here on xda about this issue, most people have some sort of yellow or red tint on parts of their displays. The display of my Nexus 6 is a bit more yellow to the lower right of the screen, however I really only notice it on higher brightness with darker colors in apps like Google Camera or the Material Dark keyboard theme. It used to bug me in the beginning, but I somehow got used to it. I don't see the need for an RMA and get a potentially worse device with other defects as mine is perfect otherwise.
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I was thinking the same.. it doesnt bug me that much. but when it comes to keyboard on landscape and specially the google camera dark grey background.. i can clearly see it... otherwise my device is perfect. I read a lot of articles too.. the device is expensive and at such a price getting a flawed display is unacceptable. My main question is are all amoleds like this.. because I had a galaxy s3 and it had a perfect display with no tint. Are all nexus 6's suffering from this problem or is it just a defective batch that is affecting some people. ? My device is just 2-3 day old so I can get a replacement.... although I am hesitant to do so..
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I was thinking the same.. it doesnt bug me that much. but when it comes to keyboard on landscape and specially the google camera dark grey background.. i can clearly see it... otherwise my device is perfect. I read a lot of articles too.. the device is expensive and at such a price getting a flawed display is unacceptable. My main question is are all amoleds like this.. because I had a galaxy s3 and it had a perfect display with no tint. Are all nexus 6's suffering from this problem or is it just a defective batch that is affecting some people. ? My device is just 2-3 day old so I can get a replacement.... although I am hesitant to do so..
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I know the feeling, when my device was just a few days old I freaked out like this too. It's hard to justify at this price point but the truth is, no device is perfect. I went through several N5's back in the day and none of them were perfect, most of them had a few dead pixels, creaking body or even dust particles in the camera.
If you say your device is perfect otherwise, won't you rather live with such a small and hard to notice defect than going through a cycle of potentially worse devices? If you ask me, don't go for a replacement. But in the end it's up to you.
Getting a replacement.
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I know the feeling, when my device was just a few days old I freaked out like this too. It's hard to justify at this price point but the truth is, no device is perfect. I went through several N5's back in the day and none of them were perfect, most of them had a few dead pixels, creaking body or even dust particles in the camera.
If you say your device is perfect otherwise, won't you rather live with such a small and hard to notice defect than going through a cycle of potentially worse devices? If you ask me, don't go for a replacement. But in the end it's up to you.
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Here my vendor is sending me a new device. A box packed one. It should arrive in 2-3 days. The tint on mine isn't noticable when the brightness is above 70% , but I cant use the phone continously at night at such high brightness. Besides the tint is so bugging me when reading anything.. browser, play books.. the uneven color temperature from top to bottom.. it is really annoying and considering that I have paid so much for this I wont settle for this. Lets see how the replacement is, I'll post when it arrives.
Got my replacement.
I got my replacement yesterday. THERE IS NO TINT. BUT. the display has a vertical band that is noticable at time. Well, I can put up with this atleast there is no uneven color anymore. I cannot describe how awesome it feels to use a flawless / near flawless display.
So, today at night I noticed that when I'm in the camera in dark areas, or in Spotify with a dark background. I noticed that the screen in the middle from the notch till the chin has a lighter colour than the edges. The width of it is about half the screen centred in the middle. It's kinda like how Zack (jerryrigeverything) puts a lighter to the screen and the pixels turn white, but it's not that extreme. It's only noticeable in low brightness, and dark backgrounds, not black. The most noticeable was in video on the front camera. The "stain" has a lighter blueish tone to it.
I'll leave some pictures for you to test them. I know that when I checked on my phone again with light, the stain wasn't there. Test them in a low lit area, and lower the brightness almost to the lowest setting.
The second pic is the front camera (the most noticeable in person). On xda, I find Spotify to the most noticeable.
Maybe I'm blind but for me everything is ok. Maybe you have DC dimming on. Sometimes screen may look weird in dark areas with that option turned on.
Yes this must be due to DC dimming, called anti-flicker in the settings, shut that off and see if it gets better. If you want to show us how it looks you will have to take a photo of the screen with another camera since it doesn't show in a screenshot. That picture is captured before it is sent to the display. The "anti-flicker" setting is known to produce distortion at low light conditions.
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Yes this must be due to DC dimming, called anti-flicker in the settings, shut that off and see if it gets better. If you want to show us how it looks you will have to take a photo of the screen with another camera since it doesn't show in a screenshot. That picture is captured before it is sent to the display. The "anti-flicker" setting is known to produce distortion at low light conditions.
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Ok. I'll test it tonight. If I use another camera, it'll just blow the image or just won't show up.
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Yes this must be due to DC dimming, called anti-flicker in the settings, shut that off and see if it gets better. If you want to show us how it looks you will have to take a photo of the screen with another camera since it doesn't show in a screenshot. That picture is captured before it is sent to the display. The "anti-flicker" setting is known to produce distortion at low light conditions.
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I just checked settings, and I have that I had it switched off. I'll see if it makes a difference.
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Maybe I'm blind but for me everything is ok. Maybe you have DC dimming on. Sometimes screen may look weird in dark areas with that option turned on.
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so ive tested it on and off. With dc on, it made worse. So i left it off. The picture ive taken (which was the best i could take) shows a green hue highlighted with the circle. I dont think its the screen protector as it only shows up on low brightness and dark colours, especially grey. Any ideas?
P.s. It looks a bit worse in person than in the pic.
Oh, now I see but I couldn't reproduce it on my Mi9, no matter what brightness or with DC dimming on/off. I'm afraid it may be some screen issue.
That's a dark gray uniformity issue, it's fairly standard on oleds, especially low end ones such as this one. On mine the green tint is most prominent on the top right corner and gradually lessens to the opposite corner. There might be more uniform ones out there but they're like what, 1 in 10 units? If you say yours actually looks worse than in the photo you might have one of the worse ones, but if you can exchange this unit don't expect to get one that's significantly better. To get one that's surely better you have to go for the more expensive ones because those use newer generation panels so the uniformity issues only show at the darkest of grays and and the brighter parts will actually be brighter white which is correct, not green as is the case with the mi 9 panel(pre 2017 panel, samsung stopped having this issue on the s8).
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That's a dark gray uniformity issue, it's fairly standard on oleds, especially low end ones such as this one. On mine the green tint is most prominent on the top right corner and gradually lessens to the opposite corner. There might be more uniform ones out there but they're like what, 1 in 10 units? If you say yours actually looks worse than in the photo you might have one of the worse ones, but if you can exchange this unit don't expect to get one that's significantly better. To get one that's surely better you have to go for the more expensive ones because those use newer generation panels so the uniformity issues only show at the darkest of grays and and the brighter parts will actually be brighter white which is correct, not green as is the case with the mi 9 panel(pre 2017 panel, samsung stopped having this issue on the s8).
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Thanks for the reply mate! Is there any way to tell what specific (display) model do I have?. My box says it was manufactured in July.
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That's a dark gray uniformity issue, it's fairly standard on oleds, especially low end ones such as this one. On mine the green tint is most prominent on the top right corner and gradually lessens to the opposite corner. There might be more uniform ones out there but they're like what, 1 in 10 units? If you say yours actually looks worse than in the photo you might have one of the worse ones, but if you can exchange this unit don't expect to get one that's significantly better. To get one that's surely better you have to go for the more expensive ones because those use newer generation panels so the uniformity issues only show at the darkest of grays and and the brighter parts will actually be brighter white which is correct, not green as is the case with the mi 9 panel(pre 2017 panel, samsung stopped having this issue on the s8).
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Since I never saw this on a Mi9, not mine or any other, I don't think this is true in the case of the Samsung display used by Xiaomi on the Mi9.
The topic starter should contact the seller and get a replacement.
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Since I never saw this on a Mi9, not mine or any other, I don't think this is true in the case of the Samsung display used by Xiaomi on the Mi9.
The topic starter should contact the seller and get a replacement.
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Will all the hassle be worthwhile though?
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Will all the hassle be worthwhile though?
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That’s entirely up to you! Can you disregard the distortion you will be ok, but if you find yourself constantly noticing it and being annoyed by it then it will be well worth the hassle I would guess. But only you know what’s right!
Have this on mine, ordered another one in hopes that I can get a better one but it was slightly worse, checked the one they had in a newly opened mi store, that one had it as well to a similar degree. Saying this doesn't happen on the mi 9 is bollocks, all of them have it to some extent, it's a question of how much you're willing to tolerate.
The best thing you can do IMO when you're in a pickle about returning something is do what I said I did: order another one but keep the first one around, compare and just keep the one you like more. That way you won't feel bad about returning the first one and being stuck with the 2nd or just being stuck with the 1st if you don't return at all. Obviously it all depends if you can fit all this into however much time you've got left to return, I was lucky to have 30 days.
Dind!t notice that