Is there any disadvantages of unlocking the bootloader? I unlocked mine and seem to lost the ability to apply themes, I don't know what is the cause of that exactly.. Does any one know if there is anything more?
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Hey Guys
I have bought myself a stock unlocked AT&T version of the Nexus one
It has never been rooted and I am on FRF85 at the moment (that was upgraded from EPE54b to FRF85 using the manual update method
Questions:
1. Does unlocking the bootloader mean you basically sim-unlock your phone?
2. If I have a stock unlocked phone, do I need to unlock the bootloader to root?
3. If I dont need to unlock the bootloader, when/if I decide to root my N1, will I lose warranty?
I guess question 3 is dependent on 2 above
Thanks
Unlocking the bootloader has nothing to do with sim unlocking your phone, these are two complete separate things
1 no. but I think there is no locked n1 available, so it is unlocked quite sure
2 maybe, depends on your build number. I think you have to unlock your bootloader with the att version
3 no
watercool said:
Unlocking the bootloader has nothing to do with sim unlocking your phone, these are two complete separate things
1 no. but I think there is no locked n1 available, so it is unlocked quite sure
2 maybe, depends on your build number. I think you have to unlock your bootloader with the att version
3 no
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regarding rooting without unlocking bootloader, see the sticky in the nexus android development section
@flybyme - thanks for your reply - i had a look at the sticky thread you were talking about rooting without unlocking the bootloader.
1. what's easier? Rooting with unlocking the bootloader or without the bootloader?
2. What's more fool-proof so-to-speak?
3. What would you recommend?
Sorry for so many questions but thanks for reading
1. With unlocking the bootloader is alot simplet BUT you will loose your waranty.
2. Once either process is complete there's no real difference since you can use the custom recovery in exactly the same way to flash any further roms.
3. I would suggest _without_ unlocking the bootloader. At least give it a try, the worst that can happen is it doesnt work.
Hey everybody,
I am on official JB and want to root. Will there be a method at some point to root it without unlocking the bootloader? What do the experts think - I know you cant look into the future, but what are your experiences from other phones, is it very likely that there will be sth. or not?
The other method would be to unlock the bootloader. So do you expect that the bootloader logo can be exchanged again at some point?
Thanks
Thorsten
Hey guys/gals
i have a quick question.
what exactly is the difference (featurewise) when it comes to rooting with an unlocked bootloader and rooting with a locked one?
i'm pretty new to android (iOS user until last saturday), did some research today, but didn't really find much usefull information.
main reason i want to root (at least for now. i'm sure i would find more after spending more time with my xperia), is because i want to format my 64gb SD to exfat and move apps over to it.
thanks guys
edit: and no, i'm currently not thinking about getting a different theme/loader on it (this is one of the things you can only do with an unlocked one, right?)
edit2: and yes, my bootloader can be unlocked
dottore. said:
Hey guys/gals
i have a quick question.
what exactly is the difference (featurewise) when it comes to rooting with an unlocked bootloader and rooting with a locked one?
i'm pretty new to android (iOS user until last saturday), did some research today, but didn't really find much usefull information.
main reason i want to root (at least for now. i'm sure i would find more after spending more time with my xperia), is because i want to format my 64gb SD to exfat and move apps over to it.
thanks guys
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Ok unlocked bootloaders = you lose DRM keys forever and Bravia Engine doesn't work. Relocking won't get them back. You can also overclock/underclock CPU with unlocked bootloader. You can also flash custom ROMs/kernels with unlocked bootloader.
Now with locked bootloader you can still have root but you don't lose your DRM keys. You can't flash custom ROMs/kernels or do any overclocking/underclocking.
That's all I can think of.
yeah, i read about that whole DRM thing. i don't care so much about the Bravia Engine and DRM, but i wouldn't mind it staying (first time i said that about DRM), so thats one of the main reason i didn't just went on with unlocking.
is flashing a custom kernel something more or less common when using a rooted android? could i get the things mentioned done without doing it? (i think i read moving apps only needs root, but then again: the xperia z seems to be a bit special when it comes to extSD)
thanks for the fast reply
shadowboy23 said:
Ok unlocked bootloaders = you lose DRM keys forever and Bravia Engine doesn't work. Relocking won't get them back. You can also overclock/underclock CPU with unlocked bootloader. You can also flash custom ROMs/kernels with unlocked bootloader.
Now with locked bootloader you can still have root but you don't lose your DRM keys. You can't flash custom ROMs/kernels or do any overclocking/underclocking.
That's all I can think of.
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is flashing a custom kernel something more or less common when using a rooted android? could i get the things mentioned done without doing it?
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Well it's up to you. You can either flash custom ROMs/kernels if you want but you will need to unlock the bootloader to do that. Locked bootloader you can only have root and that's it sad to say. But you don't have to flash a custom ROM or kernel if you have root. because you can't anyway with a locked bootloader. Having root just means you can use apps that need root access.
shadowboy23 said:
Well it's up to you. You can either flash custom ROMs/kernels if you want but you will need to unlock the bootloader to do that. Locked bootloader you can only have root and that's it sad to say.
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ok, thanks. i think i'll stay with the locked one for now...let's see for how long
why peoples don't unlocking bootloader, and asking "is this rom have locked bootloader version, or can you do this?"
and why developers making locked bootloader roms? unlocking bootloader is very easy operation and everyone can unlock bootloader easily, and everyone can relock bootloader.
Kutukcu said:
why peoples don't unlocking bootloader, and asking "is this rom have locked bootloader version, or can you do this?"
and why developers making locked bootloader roms? unlocking bootloader is very easy operation and everyone can unlock bootloader easily, and everyone can relock bootloader.
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A far as i know there are Xperia devices that are factory set to not allow bootloader unlocking and there in no way to unlock it safely.
Kutukcu said:
why peoples don't unlocking bootloader, and asking "is this rom have locked bootloader version, or can you do this?"
and why developers making locked bootloader roms? unlocking bootloader is very easy operation and everyone can unlock bootloader easily, and everyone can relock bootloader.
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1. Some people simply don't want to void their warranty.
2. Unlocking makes it possible to hard brick your device, if used wrongly. And new members might not want to have this risk.
3. Custom kernels are often more unstable than stock ones.
4. Some bootloaders simply cannot be unlocked. ;D
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Whats Huawei/Honor's policy on rooting the phone? Will it void the warranty (like Xperia's) or is it more like relaxed like Xiaomi? Does the bootloader come unlocked?
And whats the level of bloatware/spyware like on Honor phones and the 9 lite in particular? Is it possible to uninstall all the pre-installed apps or just some it?
barrack1 said:
Whats Huawei/Honor's policy on rooting the phone? Will it void the warranty... Does the bootloader come unlocked?
...Is it possible to uninstall all the pre-installed apps or just some it?
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AFAIK you lose your warranty when you unlock the bootloader. No bootloader is locked when bought.
You can uninstall most of this bloatware, some are protected because they are system related. But no prblem for me.
BTW, already unlocked mine, just waiting for some TWRP and then I will try this LOS thing...
Dio-Genes said:
AFAIK you lose your warranty when you unlock the bootloader. No bootloader is locked when bought.
You can uninstall most of this bloatware, some are protected because they are system related. But no prblem for me.
BTW, already unlocked mine, just waiting for some TWRP and then I will try this LOS thing...
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Do you mean to say new phones do not have a locked bootloader? So why do you have to unlock yours?
barrack1 said:
Do you mean to say new phones do not have a locked bootloader? So why do you have to unlock yours?
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Sorry, forgot a comma: No, bootloader is locked when bought. Never heard of an Android with unlocked bootloader when it's new.
So: Yes, bootloader is locked, you have to unlock it first before you can do anything else...