When you sleep, does your phone sleep, or does it stay up all night and crunch 1s and 0s? Rate this thread to express how you deem the speed at which the Moto Z Force's battery drains under standby conditions. A higher rating indicates that when the phone is not in use, the battery drains minimally.
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Drained like crazy
Got my Z Force yesterday and decided to test standby over night. What I got was 25% drain from 100 in 8 hours. The standby drain was cell standby. I'm hoping it will settle down but that's not good.
sonofevil77 said:
Got my Z Force yesterday and decided to test standby over night. What I got was 25% drain from 100 in 8 hours. The standby drain was cell standby. I'm hoping it will settle down but that's not good.
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My cell standby is very low. Hopefully yours settles down.
Mine is very low as well. Even with low signal, I'm only dropping 30% or so throughout the course of a day with mild use.
Im getting around 5% drain while sleeping. Typically 5 hours a night so roughly 1% an hour
Be sure to turn wifi scanning off in "Location" - it appears to really drain and can end up keeping your phone awake. My first few days I had really bad drain but turning that off and some days with and without the mod and it has really settled.
Also be sure to close all your apps...that does make a difference as well.
5% drain here too. Approx 7 hours sleep. WiFi and cell active, with nothing deactivated.
Set your phone to disable WiFi when sleeping:
Settings -> WiFi -> Advanced "Keep Wi-Fi on during sleep" = "Only When Plugged In"
I was experiencing similar drain overnight (approx 20%) and this brought it down to about 3%
You can also selectively disable mobile data usage for apps in the background using the application manager. Recommend doing this for anything that might be a data hog or that you really don't want updating when your phone is asleep (e.g. twitter or other social media apps, if you don't care about notifications):
App Info -> App Data Usage -> Restrict App Background Data ON
These settings made a huge difference for me. Most apps are conservative about mobile data use by default (e.g. spotify isn't going to sync huge things over mobile while your phone is sleeping) -- I haven't noticed any particular increase in data use since doing this, but the battery savings is remarkable. Wifi is a big power drain.
Something causes the phone to not go to sleep sometimes. I have Greenify set up with Doze on the Go turned on. After a while, the sleep function just stops working and the phone has to be rebooted to get it to go back into the sleep mode. Haven't been able to figure this one out. Root would help us here.
Periodic rebooting does seem to help with standby drain.
Coming from an S7e, this phone is tops in this regard. Overnight I lose 10% at most. Almost always at 50%+ after work (7a-5p). Lenovo/Moto did it again! Just as happy as I was with the Turbo. Plus the chop chop works so much better, only ~5% fail rate. Fingerprint reader is much more useful than I ever imagined.
jamtre said:
Set your phone to disable WiFi when sleeping:
Settings -> WiFi -> Advanced "Keep Wi-Fi on during sleep" = "Only When Plugged In"
I was experiencing similar drain overnight (approx 20%) and this brought it down to about 3%
You can also selectively disable mobile data usage for apps in the background using the application manager. Recommend doing this for anything that might be a data hog or that you really don't want updating when your phone is asleep (e.g. twitter or other social media apps, if you don't care about notifications):
App Info -> App Data Usage -> Restrict App Background Data ON
These settings made a huge difference for me. Most apps are conservative about mobile data use by default (e.g. spotify isn't going to sync huge things over mobile while your phone is sleeping) -- I haven't noticed any particular increase in data use since doing this, but the battery savings is remarkable. Wifi is a big power drain.
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Omg I always wondered why the heck my phone always said WiFi battery usage was high even when I was on Airplane mode with my S5!
Thanks bro! ✌?
Smithfolk4 said:
Something causes the phone to not go to sleep sometimes. I have Greenify set up with Doze on the Go turned on. After a while, the sleep function just stops working and the phone has to be rebooted to get it to go back into the sleep mode. Haven't been able to figure this one out. Root would help us here.
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I had this problem too until I realized that I was using the fingerprint sensor to turn the device off. Greenify has an option for this, but it doesn't seem to work with the Z Force. Greenify does work properly for me if I use the power button to turn the screen off. But it doesn't if I use the fingerprint sensor.
It's normal to Motorola. This is a fresh factory reset.
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Hi, i have an issue about battery drain here in froyo with official rom and speedmod kernel.
I notice a 4% per hour in stand-by drain.
If i check with *#*#4636#*#*, under "battery cronology", watching network usage i find something strange...
the most used application , more than email and everything else, is called "0".
When i try to click on it, watching details, i have a force close.
Is there something i can do ? i wouldn't wipe all data to check if i resolve...
Thank you
The same for me.
I have a big battery draining when the phone is on stand-by. For example this last night, i fully charged it, and in 12 hours the battery drained a 10% without using it, with juicedefender installed and configured to auto on 1 minute every 15.
I think that i dont have the gallery sensor issue, but my battery drains more than i think is normal, and i have the "0" under network usage, and get force close when clicking it.
It's the same for me as well..anyone knows what the '0' is??
I'm on JPA build.
same thing happen to me.........try to off your data plan and it will save lots of your battery juice.........unless u are really checking email on your phone of course this doesnt help!!
is it normal to lose 20% charge in standby within 4 hours? i have almost everything off and it still drain my battery like crazy. Sync is off, data is off, wifi policy is sleep when screen is off, gps off, bluetooth off. Anything you name it i have it off. I have "spare part" installed and looking a the stats i don't see anything else eating the battery life. Only thing i see under other usage. is "Running (33.9%)", "Screen on (9.3%), "Wifi on (100%)" "wifi running (61%). Could it be the wifi on at 100% eating my battery?
same problem here
if data is ON overnight, battery drain is very high, like 20% in a few hours (5-6h).
if data is OFF, battery drain is almost 0 (zero)
in iphone 4 when my data was ON overnight with 3G and PUSH turned ON, battery drain was somelike like 3 or 4%.
Something is terribly wrong.
I'm getting a regular wakelock labeled msm_hsic_host. I thought this was related to the phone's radio, but I turned on airplane mode and the wakelock continues. Anyone know why?
Stockmoose16 said:
I'm getting a regular wakelock labeled msm_hsic_host. I thought this was related to the phone's radio, but I turned on airplane mode and the wakelock continues. Anyone know why?
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You probably have a rogue app polling for a radio signal and putting it in airplane mode is making it worse.
The same wakelock doubled my battery drain last night. I had it in airplane mode overnight. Going to leave the signal on tonight and see what happens. I was getting between 3-7% but it was 15% last night.
Tested it again last night. Unplugged at 4pm yesterday and used 5% battery overnight. I just hit 24 hours with light/medium use today and battery is at 75%. I know others have shared this but battery life has certainly improved with time. The wakelock is certainly reduced leaving data connected overnight. Hope this helps.
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How are you able to see wakelocks without root?
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How are you able to see wakelocks without root?
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GSam battery monitor has an option at the bottom that looks like a vacuum. Its called app sucker. Once that screen opens there is a drop down menu at the top that allows you to see the kernel wakelocks. Then you can select each wakelock and the next screen has a button there to google it. Hope this helps.
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GSam battery monitor has an option at the bottom that looks like a vacuum. Its called app sucker. Once that screen opens there is a drop down menu at the top that allows you to see the kernel wakelocks. Then you can select each wakelock and the next screen has a button there to google it. Hope this helps.
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It does! I'm used to better battery stats, and still learning gsam. Thanks!
Looks like it's a big problem for alot more phones. I have the same wake lock also. I get about 1% per hour by leaving it overnight. Is that normal?
dluxx06 said:
Looks like it's a big problem for alot more phones. I have the same wake lock also. I get about 1% per hour by leaving it overnight. Is that normal?
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I think it is. But alot depends on your settings and the strength of the cell connection. Actually the cell connection is about the biggest battery drain that I have. I use Tasker on my phone. It disconnects my cell connection when the screen times out and limits anything running in the background. Calls and texts still come through. When the screen wakes up everything reconnects. Some would say the settings I use are extreme but I get good battery life from it. Tasker can be difficult to start at first but there are some good youtube how-to videos. Im hoping the new battery saving feature in lollipop will make it unnecessary to regulate any settings. I guess we will see.
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I think it is. But alot depends on your settings and the strength of the cell connection. Actually the cell connection is about the biggest battery drain that I have. I use Tasker on my phone. It disconnects my cell connection when the screen times out and limits anything running in the background. Calls and texts still come through. When the screen wakes up everything reconnects. Some would say the settings I use are extreme but I get good battery life from it. Tasker can be difficult to start at first but there are some good youtube how-to videos. Im hoping the new battery saving feature in lollipop will make it unnecessary to regulate any settings. I guess we will see.
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This. I use tasker to turn off data and auto sync when I go to sleep (because its literally a waste of battery) and I got 0% to 2% drainage overnight (total, not hourly) but that was with a custom rom. I expect 0.5% to less than 1% per hour with this phone because at idle with 4g on I drain about 1%/hr
I'm fed up a bit for my Z3 C battery life. This is my second query regarding battery life.
Does keeping Mobile data and Whatsapp running ON even in standby mode drains the battery??
I usually get just 1 or 2 whatsapp messages in an hour or two.
My phone settings-
Always turned off my wifi/ bt/ nfc/ gps/ location tracking/ autoupdates etc. & everything you can think and suggest.
Use only stock custom wallpaper and no live stuff. No widgets. No sd card inserted. With only two hoemscreen wih just 2 shortcuts on each screen.
Have disabled apps which I dont use.
Stopped services of apps which are no longer needed.
No auto sync enabled for any app.
Display brightness is at 30% all times.
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I use only these 3rd party apps-
Status bar mini
Network monitor mini
Whatsapp
Greenify
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My daily Z3 routine-
At night while going to sleep I turn off mobile data, turn on airplane mode and turn on stamina mode. (12:30am - 9:30am)
When I wake up the next day battery is down by 4-5%.
During day, phone runs in normal mode without any stamina activated. (10am - 12:30am)
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The Low-battery mode seems useless as it does literally nothing.
Also, as soon as the battery is 100% charged and if I use phone for even 5 mins the battery immediately drops to 99%, so is this normal??
Even if I capture 5 photos in stock auto mode the battery drops by 1% or 2.
I reboot my phone once a week or in 10 days or when need arises.
Ram utilised is always 1gb. But I dont feel any slowness for any app or my phone usage.
But again I dont watch any movies or play games fearing my battery will deplete in no time.
I use 2G/edge network as 3G isnt available for my operator in the city I reside.
Charging the phone to 100% from 14% takes 3 to 3.5 hours.
I have already repaired my phone using Sony pc companion and also did a factory reset as well but this issue has been haunting me every now and then.
Sony center says the battery doesnt need any replacement as its still healthy and so is my device.
The phones service menu also reports battery status as Good.
I dont know when is Lollipop gonna be out for Z3 but I fear updating to Lollipop as it may pose more issues than doing any good apart from usual gui tweaks & updates.
But just wish that lollipop brings in more relief to Z3 batteries.
It would be better if you also posted some screenshots with your battery usage.
Does keeping Mobile data and Whatsapp running ON even in standby mode drains the battery??
I usually get just 1 or 2 whatsapp messages in an hour or two.
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EVERYTHING drains battery, literally everything. If your volume is on max it also drains more then when your volume is very low. (Just an example)
There is a controversy when it comes to WiFi vs 3G which drains more.
In the end I think that it depends on the coverage. For me 3G/4G drains my battery less then my WiFi due to the poor WiFi reception.
That your phone loses about 5% over night really isn't THAT bad, what I do before I go to bed is "Close all" to close all the aps running in the background (It won't terminate WhatsApp's service) and I let Greenify hibernate all programs that I selected.
There was also a talk about charging your phone to 100% vs 99% the first percentage drains fast for everyone so that's why it's maybe better to only charge it till 99%.
With screenshots of your battery usage we could help you more, but as far as I can see there is nothing wrong with your battery.
If you're rooted, try BetterBatteryStats to pinpoint the drain.
Dsteppa said:
It would be better if you also posted some screenshots with your battery usage.
EVERYTHING drains battery, literally everything. If your volume is on max it also drains more then when your volume is very low. (Just an example)
There is a controversy when it comes to WiFi vs 3G which drains more.
In the end I think that it depends on the coverage. For me 3G/4G drains my battery less then my WiFi due to the poor WiFi reception.
That your phone loses about 5% over night really isn't THAT bad, what I do before I go to bed is "Close all" to close all the aps running in the background (It won't terminate WhatsApp's service) and I let Greenify hibernate all programs that I selected.
There was also a talk about charging your phone to 100% vs 99% the first percentage drains fast for everyone so that's why it's maybe better to only charge it till 99%.
With screenshots of your battery usage we could help you more, but as far as I can see there is nothing wrong with your battery.
If you're rooted, try BetterBatteryStats to pinpoint the drain.
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Well my device isnt rooted nor I use any wifi.
And also I use Greenify to shutdown all apps before sleeping and also I do manual force stop for many other apps as well.
Hello, I'm new here. Coming from a Galaxy Nexus, and I'm impressed with this device already.
My question is if it's normal that battery drains around 4 or 5 % over night. I always turn off data, wifi, put it on airplane mode. I also disabled active display, the camera gesture thing and the voice commands.
I think it should be 0% drain :/
Kustaa said:
Hello, I'm new here. Coming from a Galaxy Nexus, and I'm impressed with this device already.
My question is if it's normal that battery drains around 4 or 5 % over night. I always turn off data, wifi, put it on airplane mode. I also disabled active display, the camera gesture thing and the voice commands.
I think it should be 0% drain :/
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Zero drain is pretty much impossible unless you turn it off or own an old school Nokia
Kustaa said:
Hello, I'm new here. Coming from a Galaxy Nexus, and I'm impressed with this device already.
My question is if it's normal that battery drains around 4 or 5 % over night. I always turn off data, wifi, put it on airplane mode. I also disabled active display, the camera gesture thing and the voice commands.
I think it should be 0% drain :/
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(Guessing 8 hours of sleep.) .5-.6 % per hour is great for this phone.
With data (not wifi), active display, gestures and voice commands turned on, plus a few root level changes like greenify, xposed amplify and freezing apps, I achieve around 1 % per hour at idle on stock 4.4.4. This usually equates to around 3 days standby and 1.5 hours of screen time for me.
(I am now testing lollipop... I'm at 1.5 days with 1.5 hours screen time, longer than normal talk time and 30% battery remaining.)
I don't even make it to a day lol. Usually I've to charge at night and then around 7 pm
Here is my sleep running r12 kernel. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=59527748&postcount=811 And I don't turn on airplane mode or anything. That is just screen off.
Same problem here (Android 4.4.4, rooted).
Battery drain in flight mode (additionally also tried Moto Voice off, Active Display off, Data off, GPS off without any positive effects) is nearly the same as over the day when using the phone.
The fact that "Stand by" has 25% of all battery usage is a little bit perverted
I'm really happy with Moto X' battery consumption over the day. Normally I have to charge it every second night. But putting to flight mode at 56% when going to sleep and not charging it and finding it at 40% the next morning is kind of frustrating
Install Bettery Guru from Qualcomm, from play store if you run 4.4.x or download the apk from somewhere if you run 5.1+. It will help you reduce the standby drain.
liveroy said:
Install Bettery Guru from Quallcom, from play store if you run 4.4.x or download the apk from somewhere if you run 5.1+. It will help you reduce the standby drain.
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Hmm...doesn't seem to do anything more that I and Tasker do: Deactivate WLAN, Data & Co.
But okay...I'll try that out
From my experience the Motorola SoC has a abnormal high Standby battery drain. You can try whatever you want but you will not get below a certain level like on other phones. Perhaps the contextual cores are never turned off no matter if you use the feature or not, i don't know. At least it gets me trough a day...
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From my experience the Motorola SoC has a abnormal high Standby battery drain. You can try whatever you want but you will not get below a certain level like on other phones. Perhaps the contextual cores are never turned off no matter if you use the feature or not, i don't know. At least it gets me trough a day...
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Not really, check the screenshot below. For 10hrs ide, it drained 2-3% witch is perfectly normal.
1 square = 1hr
When you sleep, does your phone sleep, or does it stay up all night and crunch 1s and 0s? Rate this thread to express how you deem the speed at which the Sony Xperia Z5's battery drains under standby conditions. A higher rating indicates that when the phone is not in use, the battery drains minimally.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Battery drain rating on Sony's Stock ROM is only average (0.7-1% per hour in Airplane Mode), no matter if (unrooted) Stock ROM or with Custom Kernel; 0.5% at best with gauge tweaks and other modifications;
AOSP/CM ROM appears to be excellent - 1% per several hours;
doesn't come close to my Note 3 (a few per cents per day) or even my Galaxy S1 with the original battery (2-3% per day), but that's no disadvantage of the Z5 per se
battery's technology simply wasn't allowed to catch up with progress yet
Something keeps my device awaken - not sure what this could be, as the Wakelock Detector and other apps that can show culprits require root to run on Android versions from KitKat and above. This causes battery drain when the phone is not in use overnight. Does anyone else have similiar issue?
jontr said:
Something keeps my device awaken - not sure what this could be, as the Wakelock Detector and other apps that can show culprits require root to run on Android versions from KitKat and above. This causes battery drain when the phone is not in use overnight. Does anyone else have similiar issue?
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it's most likely something else
or part of the kernel or deep within the system,
because blocking wakelocks does hardly have any effect
I find my standby drain to be terrible. I can leave my phone in my pocket, with all background app closed down and it still somehow looses 30% in about an hour.
You keep breathing while sleeping
I use GSAM Battery Monitor to keep an eye on things. After a few weeks I'm happy enough with battery drain levels.
It mostly depends on phone signal; if I'm at home the signal is very weak and this can drive the standby drain up to nearly 10% an hour, and the phone can get warm. But if it has better phone signal then the drain can be as low as 2% or 3% per hour.
I have my phone set to turn off wifi when screen is off. I also use a Notification area weather app, Messenger, WhatsApp, Facebook, Instagram, etc and I have a number of email accounts and calendars syncing regularly so I would say I'm not running things in a lean manner. I'm sure if I uninstalled most of these apps my standby time would be spectacular, but then I wouldn't be getting particularly good use out of my smartphone.
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I use GSAM Battery Monitor to keep an eye on things. After a few weeks I'm happy enough with battery drain levels.
It mostly depends on phone signal; if I'm at home the signal is very weak and this can drive the standby drain up to nearly 10% an hour, and the phone can get warm. But if it has better phone signal then the drain can be as low as 2% or 3% per hour.
I have my phone set to turn off wifi when screen is off. I also use a Notification area weather app, Messenger, WhatsApp, Facebook, Instagram, etc and I have a number of email accounts and calendars syncing regularly so I would say I'm not running things in a lean manner. I'm sure if I uninstalled most of these apps my standby time would be spectacular, but then I wouldn't be getting particularly good use out of my smartphone.
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Hey, how do you turn wifi or even data off? Using stamina but how exactly?
Much appreciated
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OfficialTEC said:
I find my standby drain to be terrible. I can leave my phone in my pocket, with all background app closed down and it still somehow looses 30% in about an hour.
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Have you tried with BREVENT APP together with an aggresive Doze app (Greenify, ForceDoze, NaptimeX)? I´ve now installed Brevent + Greenify and standby during night from 100% "only" takes me 0,5% per hour more or less.
Also inside Brevent you have possibility to access to AppOps (be careful with this option).
I found that Bluetooth was causing massive drain on my phone. The fix which worked for me without turning off bluetooth (I like it to auto connect when I get in the car) was Settings->Location, then click the 3 dots menu in the top right and then Scanning, turn off Bluetooth Scanning. There are a few other things you can do as well.
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I found that Bluetooth was causing massive drain on my phone. The fix which worked for me without turning off bluetooth (I like it to auto connect when I get in the car) was Settings->Location, then click the 3 dots menu in the top right and then Scanning, turn off Bluetooth Scanning. There are a few other things you can do as well.
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What else things do you mean?
After z5 becomes it can drain upto 30% per hour
standby drain is decent here, using mx rom
seilent said:
standby drain is decent here, using mx rom
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you have 96%, that prediction is BS, never the prediction come true.
I charge the phone 100%, tell me it going to last 12hours and go to sleep for ~7 hours and the battery is less than 30%.
the overheat over time killed the battery.