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Hi!
Today I updated my Nexus 6 to 5.1 and something is went wrong...
When i try to boot my device into android, i Can't because its shows a dead android with a red triangle
(this is the screen where i can go into the recovery menu by pressing power on+ vol up)
i tried to flash the rom again, but the bootloader is locked because i relocked it after the 5.1 rom flash..
and i cant unlock it again because i cant boot into android to check the OEM unlock box.
i also tried wipe data, factory reset option in the recovery menu... thanks a lot for any suggestions
(sorry for my english)
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necroside007 said:
Hi!
Today I updated my Nexus 6 to 5.1 and something is went wrong...
When i try to boot my device into android, i Can't because its shows a dead android with a red triangle
(this is the screen where i can go into the recovery menu by pressing power on+ vol up)
i tried to flash the rom again, but the bootloader is locked because i relocked it after the 5.1 rom flash..
and i cant unlock it again because i cant boot into android to check the OEM unlock box.
i also tried wipe data, factory reset option in the recovery menu... thanks a lot for any suggestions
(sorry for my english)
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Why in the world would you relock the bootloader? Against commonsense it would seem. Also, there are threads on here dealing with the update and warning against relocking the boot loader. Those threads also describe efforts to recover from the situation.
wtherrell said:
Why in the world would you relock the bootloader? Against commonsense it would seem. Also, there are threads on here dealing with the update and warning against relocking the boot loader. Those threads also describe efforts to recover from the situation.
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I haven't seen anyone warning against relocking the bootloader - in fact, I see many instruction sets where relocking the bootloader is the final step, before the first reboot. Most are for returning to stock. Go ahead and use your hindsight though, you sound so smart.
And yeah, there are plenty of efforts to recover from the situation, but I'm yet to see anyone do so successfully.
necroside007 said:
Hi!
Today I updated my Nexus 6 to 5.1 and something is went wrong...
When i try to boot my device into android, i Can't because its shows a dead android with a red triangle
(this is the screen where i can go into the recovery menu by pressing power on+ vol up)
i tried to flash the rom again, but the bootloader is locked because i relocked it after the 5.1 rom flash..
and i cant unlock it again because i cant boot into android to check the OEM unlock box.
i also tried wipe data, factory reset option in the recovery menu... thanks a lot for any suggestions
(sorry for my english)
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freeman_g said:
Welcome to the club!
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AndrewZorn said:
I haven't seen anyone warning against relocking the bootloader - in fact, I see many instruction sets where relocking the bootloader is the final step, before the first reboot. Most are for returning to stock. Go ahead and use your hindsight though, you sound so smart.
And yeah, there are plenty of efforts to recover from the situation, but I'm yet to see anyone do so successfully.
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If you want to update to the newest OTA you dont need to lock the bootloader back up. The bootloader can remained unlocked when doing this. Its been posted all over XDA about not having to do this. The only time you may want to relock the bootloader is when selling it to someone or trading it in. Thats it.
AndrewZorn said:
I haven't seen anyone warning against relocking the bootloader - in fact, I see many instruction sets where relocking the bootloader is the final step, before the first reboot. Most are for returning to stock. Go ahead and use your hindsight though, you sound so smart.
And yeah, there are plenty of efforts to recover from the situation, but I'm yet to see anyone do so successfully.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3053497.
Well...I'm not browsing the XDA every day, i only come here for solutions for my problems....
wtherrell said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3053497.
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Yeah, posted this morning. What a warning to everyone who did this before.
And saying not to do something that plenty of people want to do (like, returning to stock) isn't very significant.
necroside007 said:
Well...I'm not browsing the XDA every day, i only come here for solutions for my problems....
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well not to come off rude but number one rule for xda before u post is search, and as you can tell there are multiple threads on this exact same topic.
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AndrewZorn said:
Yeah, posted this morning. What a warning to everyone who did this before.
And saying not to do something that plenty of people want to do (like, returning to stock) isn't very significant.
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returning to stock and relocking the bootloader dont go together. You can return to stock and not lock the bootloader. Locking the bootloader has nothing to do with returning a device back to stock. It returns the device back to factory state if u lock it back up. Locking the device back up only should be used for selling the device, or returning the device for repairs. not for taking a ota.
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Locking the bootloader has nothing to do with returning a device back to stock. It returns the device back to factory state if u lock it back up. Locking the device back up only should be used for selling the device, or returning the device for repairs. not for taking a ota.
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Unless I want a secure device.
Unless I worry about warranty/resale in case my device is no longer operable (ie, broken screen, port, or buttons).
Unless I want my device to be stock - actually stock - as sold - which is LOCKED. You're telling me and others there's no downside to an unlocked bootloader. Well, that's wrong, and some people want a locked bootloader.
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Unless I want a secure device.
Unless I worry about warranty/resale in case my device is no longer operable (ie, broken screen, port, or buttons).
Unless I want my device to be stock - actually stock - as sold - which is LOCKED. You're telling me and others there's no downside to an unlocked bootloader. Well, that's wrong, and some people want a locked bootloader.
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There is no downside to a unlocked bootloader. If i remember correctly a locked bootloader is only for oem to protect for warranty issues nothing to do with security that your describing. A locked bootloader or unlocked bootloader tells the oem that this device was unlocked or locked and will tell the consumer (us) that the warranty was void. Number one rule when taking a device back to OEM for repair is return to stock and lock device like I stated above. Security issues has nothing to do with the bootloader. From my understanding its just for the OEM warranty purposes Only!
Edit: what u described above is the same thing I described. Only need to lock device back up for warranty purposes or reselling. Thats it.
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Unless I want a secure device.
Unless I worry about warranty/resale in case my device is no longer operable (ie, broken screen, port, or buttons).
Unless I want my device to be stock - actually stock - as sold - which is LOCKED. You're telling me and others there's no downside to an unlocked bootloader. Well, that's wrong, and some people want a locked bootloader.
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I posted the warning because people are not being careful. They are locking the bootloader without even checking it works. I've edited the post to say that. But if you're the sort of person that will be flashiogn a lot, a locked bootloader is not a good thing to have now because if you break recovery and cannot boot your device, you are at present - completely screwed. If you want to be stock, that shouldn't be an issue. Just be careful is all we're saying. ...and I cannot help it if my warning comes after some people have made this mistake. If no one made the mistake, I wouldn't have needed to post a warning. Can of peanuts "May contain nuts"... You know, because you know someone somewhere who was allergic to nuts, ate the nuts.
rootSU said:
I posted the warning because people are not being careful. They are locking the bootloader without even checking it works. I've edited the post to say that. But if you're the sort of person that will be flashiogn a lot, a locked bootloader is not a good thing to have now because if you break recovery and cannot boot your device, you are at present - completely screwed. If you want to be stock, that shouldn't be an issue. Just be careful is all we're saying. ...and I cannot help it if my warning comes after some people have made this mistake. If no one made the mistake, I wouldn't have needed to post a warning. Can of peanuts "May contain nuts"... You know, because you know someone somewhere who was allergic to nuts, ate the nuts.
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I have nothing against your warning - I'm glad it's there. I was replying to the other guy, saying your the existence of your warning doesn't make everyone with this problem an idiot.
Locking the bootloader without even checking it works - again - I don't often see the "reboot to make sure it works!" step before the final fastboot oem lock. Maybe I've only been reading the lousy guides.
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There is no downside to a unlocked bootloader. If i remember correctly a locked bootloader is only for oem to protect for warranty issues nothing to do with security that your describing. A locked bootloader or unlocked bootloader tells the oem that this device was unlocked or locked and will tell the consumer (us) that the warranty was void. Number one rule when taking a device back to OEM for repair is return to stock and lock device like I stated above. Security issues has nothing to do with the bootloader. From my understanding its just for the OEM warranty purposes Only!
Edit: what u described above is the same thing I described. Only need to lock device back up for warranty purposes or reselling. Thats it.
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I thought that an unlocked bootloader allowed someone without 'normal' access to the files on your phone. That's why the bootloader lock/unlock wipes the device.
You're still completely missing my point with the warranty thing. Suppose my phone's unlocked and my screen breaks. Or my USB port stops working. That big unlocked logo under the Google is going to make getting a replacement really difficult.
By saying there's NO downside to unlocking the bootloader for daily use is absurd. I wanted to go back to as-shipped state for daily use, and locked bootloader is part of that. That's a reasonable goal. I don't care if there's something about the bootloader unlocked that you find valuable. I got tired of the tinkering and decided I just wanted my Nexus 6 to be back the way it was - completely.
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I have nothing against your warning - I'm glad it's there. I was replying to the other guy, saying your the existence of your warning doesn't make everyone with this problem an idiot.
Locking the bootloader without even checking it works - again - I don't often see the "reboot to make sure it works!" step before the final fastboot oem lock. Maybe I've only been reading the lousy guides.
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If guides don't say that at the moment, they definitely should now. I'll look at ours here and ask the OP's to update.
AndrewZorn said:
I have nothing against your warning - I'm glad it's there. I was replying to the other guy, saying your the existence of your warning doesn't make everyone with this problem an idiot.
Locking the bootloader without even checking it works - again - I don't often see the "reboot to make sure it works!" step before the final fastboot oem lock. Maybe I've only been reading the lousy guides.
I thought that an unlocked bootloader allowed someone without 'normal' access to the files on your phone. That's why the bootloader lock/unlock wipes the device.
You're still completely missing my point with the warranty thing. Suppose my phone's unlocked and my screen breaks. Or my USB port stops working. That big unlocked logo under the Google is going to make getting a replacement really difficult.
By saying there's NO downside to unlocking the bootloader for daily use is absurd. I wanted to go back to as-shipped state for daily use, and locked bootloader is part of that. That's a reasonable goal.
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Root access is for the special files. and also i had the same issues u mentioned above and i always found a way to return a device to stock.
1) broken screen- repaired myself
2) broken usb port - repaired myself
I only take in for warranties if it has to do with something that I cant fix myself. This is a risk that all users take in this hobby.
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Root access is for the special files. and also i had the same issues u mentioned above and i always found a way to return a device to stock.
1) broken screen- repaired myself
2) broken usb port - repaired myself
I only take in for warranties if it has to do with something that I cant fix myself. This is a risk that all users take in this hobby.
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Alright, so how do I return mine to stock?
Your self-repair solutions are laughable. You're completely missing the point. I'm done arguing this.
AndrewZorn said:
Alright, so how do I return mine to stock?
Your self-repair solutions are laughable. You're completely missing the point. I'm done arguing this.
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its not laughable. unless u buy an extended warranty the warranty is up after a year so you would have to figure the work yourself. If you are in the boat where u locked it back up and took the ota and bootlooping or whatever. your stuck till there is a solution. if u want to return to stock . Just return to stock but dont lock the bootloader back up, and flash. its that simple.
Edit: we are not arguing. Its just i have my way on repairs and you have yours. its a debate i guess
Edit: this issue has been brought up and is being researched. i was talking about the returning to stock for repairs dont try and put words in my mouth saying i know a fix.
Hello! I just got a nexus 6 a few days ago, and I love this phone! However, I just read on here that relocking your bootloader is a bad idea? Well, I rooted my device and installed PAC ROM on it, then reflashed a stock image back to my nexus and relocked the bootloader, my phone is fine, no bootloops and no issues, does this pose a problem with OTA updates? Thanks! I really need to know because i would NOT wanna brick this thing! Thanks!
H4X0R46 said:
Hello! I just got a nexus 6 a few days ago, and I love this phone! However, I just read on here that relocking your bootloader is a bad idea? Well, I rooted my device and installed PAC ROM on it, then reflashed a stock image back to my nexus and relocked the bootloader, my phone is fine, no bootloops and no issues, does this pose a problem with OTA updates? Thanks! I really need to know because i would NOT wanna brick this thing! Thanks!
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Thing is, when your bootloader is unlocked, the device is almost unbrickable. Also, you can be unlocked, 100% stock and still get OTA's if you want. If you have a locked bootloader, mess something up and end up in a bootloop, and can't boot to android, you're stuck.
Are you saying that OTA updates work even if your boot loader is open? Does it just check your system files and recovery? In theory, if I did an OTA update right now, and my bootloader was unlocked, it would install without problems?
H4X0R46 said:
Are you saying that OTA updates work even if your boot loader is open? Does it just check your system files and recovery? In theory, if I did an OTA update right now, and my bootloader was unlocked, it would install without problems?
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Yes to all your questions.
Unlock it, its free insurance and wont change or harm a thing.
you can lock/unlock your bootloader anytime you want actually, you just have to make sure that you relock your bootloader sfter making sure that you can boot properly first. because if you can't boot, and your bootloader is locked, then you are just as good as bricked. because now, to unlock your bootloader, you have to enable allow oem unlock. and if you cant boot, you cant do that.
simms22 said:
you can lock/unlock your bootloader anytime you want actually, you just have to make sure that you relock your bootloader sfter making sure that you can boot properly first. because if you can't boot, and your bootloader is locked, then you are just as good as bricked. because now, to unlock your bootloader, you have to enable allow oem unlock. and if you cant boot, you cant do that.
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That said, since 5.1.1, doesn't "allow oem unlock" remain ticked / selected after a reboot now? If so, it's fine to relock it, even if it doesn't boot if that is ticked.
danarama said:
That said, since 5.1.1, doesn't "allow oem unlock" remain ticked / selected after a reboot now? If so, it's fine to relock it, even if it doesn't boot if that is ticked.
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Yes, but in the case of an "accidentally" wiped OS, well, you know.
Alright guys, so I won't ever run into a problem with an OTA update with the bootloader unlocked? Thanks! You guys are awesome!
Sent from my Nexus 6
Evolution_Tech said:
Yes, but in the case of an "accidentally" wiped OS, well, you know.
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Well it shouldn't matter. When you tick that box, it writes the change to mmcblk0p18, which is OS independent. Now that booting the rom doesn't revert that partition, if it is ticked once, it shouldn't matter if there is an OS at all.
H4X0R46 said:
Alright guys, so I won't ever run into a problem with an OTA update with the bootloader unlocked? Thanks! You guys are awesome!
Sent from my Nexus 6
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Correct. Bootloader status has no effect on OTA. Updated script checks boot.img (kernel), system.img, and recovery. All have to be unmodified. No root, no unencrypted kernel, stock 100%.
cam30era said:
Correct. Bootloader status has no effect on OTA. Updated script checks boot.img (kernel), system.img, and recovery. All have to be unmodified. No root, no unencrypted kernel, stock 100%.
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Scripts don't check recovery. It's just the OTA zip won't work without it.
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here you go!
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Correct. Just taking this shortcut.
Great! Thanks guys! Appreciate all the help and support on this! I would HATE to brick a $700 device! Haha
Sent from my Nexus 6
Real quick easy noob question, no point in making a thread just for this so I'm asking here, is the Nexus 6 CPU an arm or arm64?
H4X0R46 said:
Real quick easy noob question, no point in making a thread just for this so I'm asking here, is the Nexus 6 CPU an arm or arm64?
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N6 is ARM. Arm 64 is for 64 bit devices such as the N9.
Clarification question
A question for clarification, as long as the bootloader is already unlocked, the "OEM Unlocking - Allow the bootloader to be unlocked" setting under Developer options doesn't affect anything?
alryder said:
A question for clarification, as long as the bootloader is already unlocked, the "OEM Unlocking - Allow the bootloader to be unlocked" setting under Developer options doesn't affect anything?
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Correct.
I looked on Cyanogenmod's website below:
https://download.cyanogenmod.org/?device=shamu
and it just has 1 ROM for Nexus 6. I have Nexus 6 for Sprint. Is there only 1 version of the ROM that works for all carriers ?
My old Galaxy S4 has many different builds for Sprint, ATT, Verizon, etc.... wasn't sure if Nexus has the same set up.
Yes, applies to all N6 variants.
thats because every sgs4 has a different setup for different carriers. we only have one nexus 6, and its the same for every carrier.
simms22 said:
thats because every sgs4 has a different setup for different carriers. we only have one nexus 6, and its the same for every carrier.
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I didn't have a locked bootloader with Sprint Galaxy S4. If I were to restore the Nexus 6 back to stock to do an OTA update to update everything, then re-root and put a new custom ROM does the bootloader need to be re-locked, or can the factory .img be suffice to do an OTA ?
I'm still trying to learn how to do this as it is much different than the Samsung GS4. I saw there is a Nexus Toolkit by wug fresh. Is there any benefit to doing these processes by adb vs just using this progra which seems easier ?
mikeprius said:
I didn't have a locked bootloader with Sprint Galaxy S4. If I were to restore the Nexus 6 back to stock to do an OTA update to update everything, then re-root and put a new custom ROM does the bootloader need to be re-locked, or can the factory .img be suffice to do an OTA ?
I'm still trying to learn how to do this as it is much different than the Samsung GS4. I saw there is a Nexus Toolkit by wug fresh. Is there any benefit to doing these processes by adb vs just using this progra which seems easier ?
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you dont use adb for it, you use fastboot. and doung it right vs a toolkit.. toolkits dont teach you anything, and can mess things up.
simms22 said:
you dont use adb for it, you use fastboot. and doung it right vs a toolkit.. toolkits dont teach you anything, and can mess things up.
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Does the bootloader need to be locked to do OTAs or does the stock ROM with leaving the bootloader unlock suffice for an OTA ?
mikeprius said:
Does the bootloader need to be locked to do OTAs or does the stock ROM with leaving the bootloader unlock suffice for an OTA ?
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bootloader can be locked or unlocked, it doesnt matter. but i recommend that you keep it unlocked forever, as it can save your phone in certain situations. and having it locked can be the end of your device, in the same situations.
simms22 said:
bootloader can be locked or unlocked, it doesnt matter. but i recommend that you keep it unlocked forever, as it can save your phone in certain situations. and having it locked can be the end of your device, in the same situations.
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Ok. That's what I was planning on doing once it becomes unlocked. I was going to have it set like my previous GS4 and just toggle custom ROMs from there. When you mention having it locked, are you referring to when people have re-locked the bootloader then had an error flashing the stock custom ROM thus bricking the phone ? That's what worries me. Looks like the security is more stringent on the new Nexus vs. older versions.
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Ok. That's what I was planning on doing once it becomes unlocked. I was going to have it set like my previous GS4 and just toggle custom ROMs from there. When you mention having it locked, are you referring to when people have re-locked the bootloader then had an error flashing the stock custom ROM thus bricking the phone ? That's what worries me. Looks like the security is more stringent on the new Nexus vs. older versions.
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i was actually refering to it because of the unlock setting that has to be ticked to unlock. some stock users got caught in a bootloop, then cant boot up to tick the setting, to fix their bootloop. since it cant get unlocked, their phones are a "brick".
simms22 said:
i was actually refering to it because of the unlock setting that has to be ticked to unlock. some stock users got caught in a bootloop, then cant boot up to tick the setting, to fix their bootloop. since it cant get unlocked, their phones are a "brick".
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Is this what happened to this person below ?:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/help/help-nexus-6-brick-t3227126
Since the stock rom did not have developer options "checked" then the bootloader can't be unlocked ? How can you tick the OEM unlock if it is in a bootloop ?
mikeprius said:
Is this what happened to this person below ?:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/help/help-nexus-6-brick-t3227126
Since the stock rom did not have developer options "checked" then the bootloader can't be unlocked ? How can you tick the OEM unlock if it is in a bootloop ?
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you cant, thats why i said that you should keep it unlocked.
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you cant, thats why i said that you should keep it unlocked.
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Ok that makes sense. What is the purpose of having the bootloader come locked in a stock phone then ? What does it actually do ? Prevents root ? I probably took it for granted mine was always unlocked before so all I had to do was worry about flashing the proper carrier ROM
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Ok that makes sense. What is the purpose of having the bootloader come locked in a stock phone then ? What does it actually do ? Prevents root ? I probably took it for granted mine was always unlocked before so all I had to do was worry about flashing the proper carrier ROM
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Security.
Security in that if stolen your phone cannot be made to work for someone else...
Someone can (and likely will [emoji14]) correct me if I am wrong... But does little to secure your data...ESPECIALLY if you stay encrypted.
scryan said:
Security in that if stolen your phone cannot be made to work for someone else...
Someone can (and likely will [emoji14]) correct me if I am wrong... But does little to secure your data...ESPECIALLY if you stay encrypted.
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It does nothing to secure data from remote access, but it will protect data (if set with a password) from physical access, providing they do not know the password. The bootloader being unlocked, with no password on encryption would allow them to flash a custom recovery and pull the data off. This will be decrypted on the fly. So it works in conjunction with Encryption. To secure data from physical access, you need both.
IF your bootloader is unlocked and you have no password, you may aswell not be encrypted
Hey guys,
Not sure if I am going to be able to do anything about this. I signed up for the OTA beta program, device downloaded the OTA. When I got to the flashing stage it went to recovery and failed for some reason. Now I am unable to boot the device just gets stuck at Google splash screen. Cannot OEM unlock in fastboot because it was not enabled in developer options prior so flashing any images is out of the question. Is there any hope for me past this point or is the device bricked?
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Hey guys,
Not sure if I am going to be able to do anything about this. I signed up for the OTA beta program, device downloaded the OTA. When I got to the flashing stage it went to recovery and failed for some reason. Now I am unable to boot the device just gets stuck at Google splash screen. Cannot OEM unlock in fastboot because it was not enabled in developer options prior so flashing any images is out of the question. Is there any hope for me past this point or is the device bricked?
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reboot into bootloader mode and flash that way. OTA is the worst way to update, IMO.
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reboot into bootloader mode and flash that way. OTA is the worst way to update, IMO.
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I can't flash images with a locked bootloader or is there a way around that?
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I can't flash images with a locked bootloader or is there a way around that?
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the OTA wiped your custom recovery and didn't load the ROM properly !??!?!?! Yikes....................if your phone has stock recovery and the bootloader is locked then it is bricked and you need to send it in.
Device was completely stock, including recovery no custom recovery or root or anything.
That's strange....
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That's strange....
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Lol I know tell me about it.... I am going to see if motorola will send me a replacement but not to confident they will.
did you have root before taking the ota? anyways, sounds like you have the first N brick.
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Lol I know tell me about it.... I am going to see if motorola will send me a replacement but not to confident they will.
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They may....I think the big question is if they still have any in stock......anyways, let us know what happens....that's a very unfortunate situation. The first thing I did when I got my phone was unlock the bootloader and I have not re-locked it since.
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did you have root before taking the ota? anyways, sounds like you have the first N brick.
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No did not have root, was completely stock.
mikeprius said:
They may....I think the big question is if they still have any in stock......anyways, let us know what happens....that's a very unfortunate situation. The first thing I did when I got my phone was unlock the bootloader and I have not re-locked it since.
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Yea sucks, device is out of warranty so I am SOL it seems. Lol I don't unlock because it breaks android pay and other security features which I did not want to disable.
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No did not have root, was completely stock.
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yea, read. i was going to post when no one else posted, but had a customer walk in. by the time i posted it was too late :angel:
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Yea sucks, device is out of warranty so I am SOL it seems. Lol I don't unlock because it breaks android pay and other security features which I did not want to disable.
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This is even more unfortunate. You can use Android Pay with an unlocked bootloader. I've flashed my phone back to stock images with the bootloader unlocked and Android Pay works. It's not contingent on a locked bootloader, only factory stock images.
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This is even more unfortunate. You can use Android Pay with an unlocked bootloader. I've flashed my phone back to stock images with the bootloader unlocked and Android Pay works. It's not contingent on a locked bootloader, only factory stock images.
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Oh weird, when you check off the allow oem unlock it says disabled security features, I wonder what that means then... yes it sucks, now a very nice looking paperweight lol
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Oh weird, when you check off the allow oem unlock it says disabled security features, I wonder what that means then... yes it sucks, now a very nice looking paperweight lol
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That's just a general warning. No bearing on AP.......well you may be able to sell the phone as some people may buy it. I'm sure someone out there has a way to get it back, but I'm not sure how. I recall seeing a thread where someone in Cambodia did the same thing and he took it to a shop that was able to reverse it.....
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That's just a general warning. No bearing on AP.......well you may be able to sell the phone as some people may buy it. I'm sure someone out there has a way to get it back, but I'm not sure how. I recall seeing a thread where someone in Cambodia did the same thing and he took it to a shop that was able to reverse it.....
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Lol really? Recall where?
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Lol really? Recall where?
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I can't find the thread, but I did find this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/help/nexus-6-bricked-november-security-ota-t3242773
It looks like you are not the first to be bricked with an OTA update. There should be a sticky about this issue moving forward.
mikeprius said:
I can't find the thread, but I did find this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/help/nexus-6-bricked-november-security-ota-t3242773
It looks like you are not the first to be bricked with an OTA update. There should be a sticky about this issue moving forward.
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Lol so ****ty, looks like the phone is ****ed
wolfnumba1 said:
Hey guys,
Not sure if I am going to be able to do anything about this. I signed up for the OTA beta program, device downloaded the OTA. When I got to the flashing stage it went to recovery and failed for some reason. Now I am unable to boot the device just gets stuck at Google splash screen. Cannot OEM unlock in fastboot because it was not enabled in developer options prior so flashing any images is out of the question. Is there any hope for me past this point or is the device bricked?
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Count me in as one of the potentially many more that bricked his phone while trying out the Beta program via OTA...
sorry to tell you this , but with locked bootloader , your phone is hard bricked, no way to recover, only by sending it back to motorola or amazon if you bought from them. i sold about 100 pieces of nexus 6 to customers and my first advice to them is to check " Enable oem unlocking "
anyway email google and blame them for this and i am sure they will help
Hi,
Few hours ago I used Nexus toolkit to return to stock rom + unrooting.
I think everything went smoothly bc's it booted succsesfuly into the fist stage of the set the language of the device.
I heard that people bricked thier devices after OTA updating - That b'cs something with the Bootloader...("Somthing" is bc's I dont know if it happened due to leaved it Unlocked or proceed the
"Relock Bootloader"(OEM Lock).
So, What should I do?
Leave unlocked OR excute "Relock Bootloader"(OEM Lock)
???
Thank you!
I've seen many comments in these forums from experienced members saying that unless you're really paranoid about security you should leave it unlocked so that you have at least the possibility to recover from bricking.
Thanks for the quick replay @dahawthorne
So...you think it someting that happened to some particularly users and NOT a comprehensively issue that happaned to many android users that unlocked the device before?
P.S: am using the Nexus Toolkit by WugFresh.
For relock the BL - Just push on "OEM Lock", right?
Thank you!!
shabydog said:
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So, What should I do?!
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Read the post #2 again. Search XDA for 'unlock bootloader'.
Wonder why so many XDA members will keep root access and unlocked bootloader.
shabydog said:
P.S: am using the Nexus Toolkit by WugFresh.
For relock the BL - Just push on "OEM Lock", right?
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You do understand that I'm recommending leaving your device *unlocked*, right...?
@shabydog: For heaven's sake man, don't lock your bootloader as it's a lot easier to recover the device if the bootloader is unlocked. Google has made it easier to recover a bricked device by offering the full system in an OTA package, but despite that, you still shouldn't lock the bootloader.
@dahawthorne @Strephon Alkhalikoi @NLBeev
Conclusion: I must leave the bootloader LOCKED.
And as long I did not touched the "OEM Lock" under Relock bootloader ==> i'm safe, right?
Thank you all so much.
shabydog said:
@[email protected] [email protected]
Conclusion: I must leave the bootloader LOCKED.
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Obviously I need to brush up on my communications skills.
YOU MUST LEAVE THE BOOTLOADER ***UNLOCKED***.
dahawthorne said:
.../ brush up on my communications skills.....
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More power of a transmitter does not mean the receiver is fine tuned.
I love first world problems. So after another thread to ask about flashing a Nexus back to stock, he has to open a separate thread for locking the bootloader.
@shabydog If it gives you this much stress, don't do anything. You have it, as I understand, back to stock, it's working, just put it back in its box, and sell it, or keep it, I don't care, but you should really not touch it.
Sorryyyy...I messed up with all the info' and so on.
YOU MUST LEAVE THE BOOTLOADER ***UNLOCKED***.
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So Yes - I did not touched at all with "OEM Lock" under Relock.
Sory, it's just "T-M-I" for me - and not only here - with any "unkown" instructions./tut's.
Just confusing with learmimg something that I dont know.
But I just love it so much!!!!!!!!
I know you'r familiar with - deeply into that.
I want to learn...sometimes it's hard for me so it takes time.
Hope you can understand