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Hello.
My T-Mobile G4 has had 6.0 Marshmallow since February. I've noticed since I've updated to Marshmallow that the performance is definitely worse than Lollipop, particularly in gaming. Games will seem to run fine for about 30 seconds or so, then the framerate just completely goes out of whack. These aren't little micro stutters, but jumpy, jittery, and wobbly graphics problems. I was able to run the FPS meter app to see what the games were running at. Sure enough, the game (I tested Hill Climb Racing with the fps app, but the issues exist in every game I've tried. 2D and 3D) would run at 59-60 fps for about 30 seconds, then when the jitters started, it went down to 51 fps according to the app.
Now, I've seen these same jittery scrolling issues on Dolphin Browser (other browsers too, but to a lesser degree), Gmail, QuickPic, YouTube, Google+, and even the freaking home screen. I've factory reset multiple times and ran the phone without installing any apps, tested the phone in safe mode, cleared the cache, removed the sd card, formatted the sd card, switched batteries, turned on airplane mode, toggled game optimizer, toggled some developer options, and even went through 3 different warranty exchanges (two manufactured in May 2015 and my current one from July 2015). The ONLY THING that seems to help is time. The longer I have the phone on (maybe about 5 days to a week), the better chance the phone has of smoothing out. I kept the phone on for 35 days straight recently because I knew it would get sluggish again if I restarted and I was right. I unfortunately had to restart due to a WiFi issue.
The main reason I'm posting here is because I haven't gotten an answer anywhere else. Apparently, either everyone else has a G4 that actually performs just fine on Marshmallow or they just don't seem to notice (not sure how they couldn't, considering how obvious the graphics problems are).
Is it a kernel/governor issue? Perhaps there's a developer that can tell me what's going on with the phone?
...Anyone?
Larry L said:
...Anyone?
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read this thread..:good:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/help/g4-unusable-gaming-extremely-low-fps-mm-t3405733
raptorddd said:
read this thread..:good:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/help/g4-unusable-gaming-extremely-low-fps-mm-t3405733
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Thanks for that link. Unfortunately, they don't seem to provide any solution (maybe root), but it at least shows that I'm not the only one with these performance irregularities.
Larry L said:
Thanks for that link. Unfortunately, they don't seem to provide any solution (maybe root), but it at least shows that I'm not the only one with these performance irregularities.
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i think its MM..
raptorddd said:
i think its MM..
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Are all MM phones having performance problems in some way? I've heard that phones like the Nexus 6P have pretty much flawless performance. I've heard that the Oneplus 3 is like butter too.
Is MM just crippling older SOC's like the 808?
Larry L said:
Are all MM phones having performance problems in some way? I've heard that phones like the Nexus 6P have pretty much flawless performance. I've heard that the Oneplus 3 is like butter too.
Is MM just crippling older SOC's like the 808?
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not sure never been on MM when i got my phone, i flash LP just for root. and cause i read that battery isnt good and performance.. it could be.. and that it isnt optimized... theres new 20o firmware not sure how it works... but be aware that once you flash 20o thers no going back to LP.. as long as you on 20i you can go back to LP 10N otherwise youll brick your phone 20i adn 10N are antirollback V2 the new 20o its V3.
Hi guys, now that I'm really desperate and gave up, I want to ask you all if you guys know a single ROM that can play vainglory without any issue, I literally have tried all ROMS in this forum, but nothing could satisfie me, maybe JDC 7.1 is an exception, its a perfect ROM for playing games, but in long term of use, it started to slowed down, and issues occurred, so any of you guys know which ROM, or maybe a best configuration to play vainglory without any issues like lags, thermal throttled, and high ping issue? Or is it just me? Or maybe I bought a wrong phone for gaming? The snapdragon 820 in this Mi 5 really gave me boner but now that its not sound so awesome anymore, even Redmi note 4x could play this game without any issue at all. Thank you in advance guys
did u tried Purefusion OS? or CRDROID ? Both are a great ROM, and i play all those game without any issue.
Fuzzyflazz said:
did u tried Purefusion OS? or CRDROID ? Both are a great ROM, and i play all those game without any issue.
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Could you give me the link to those ROM sir?
The361 said:
Could you give me the link to those ROM sir?
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Crdroid : https://sourceforge.net/projects/cc0705/files/CRDROID/
For purefusion, you can found it on mi 5 section on xda
The361 said:
Hi guys, now that I'm really desperate and gave up, I want to ask you all if you guys know a single ROM that can play vainglory without any issue, I literally have tried all ROMS in this forum, but nothing could satisfie me, maybe JDC 7.1 is an exception, its a perfect ROM for playing games, but in long term of use, it started to slowed down, and issues occurred, so any of you guys know which ROM, or maybe a best configuration to play vainglory without any issues like lags, thermal throttled, and high ping issue? Or is it just me? Or maybe I bought a wrong phone for gaming? The snapdragon 820 in this Mi 5 really gave me boner but now that its not sound so awesome anymore, even Redmi note 4x could play this game without any issue at all. Thank you in advance guys
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Saying Issues u mean FPS drop? Im playing similiar game Mobile Legends and I had same problem.. after 10min cpu throttled like sh*t with gpu.. both went down gpu from 624mhz to 410 and cpu from 2.1 to 1.6. I found solution here - https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-5/how-to/how-to-disable-thermal-throttling-t3636574
On every rom I just delete these 2 files and everything is fine - phone is not even HOT when playin. Im using it for like 3 months or more and its awesome.. 60fps without lags even if im playin 2/3hours from 100% to 0% battery. u should try if u want to play mobas on mi5 ))))
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Fuzzyflazz said:
Crdroid : https://sourceforge.net/projects/cc0705/files/CRDROID/
For purefusion, you can found it on mi 5 section on xda
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Okay, tried crdroid 7.1 and its fast, true, but not fast enough, and purefusion 7.1 is at the same speed compared to JDC 7.1, i think it's because "EAS" similarity, i dont know for a long time usage, soon i will find out if this rom is really the rom that i looking for or not, thank you so much sir, oh btw i read in the purefusion thread that using bb kernel is recomended, i mean, how bis is the difference with using it?
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Saying Issues u mean FPS drop? Im playing similiar game Mobile Legends and I had same problem.. after 10min cpu throttled like sh*t with gpu.. both went down gpu from 624mhz to 410 and cpu from 2.1 to 1.6. I found solution here - https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-5/how-to/how-to-disable-thermal-throttling-t3636574
On every rom I just delete these 2 files and everything is fine - phone is not even HOT when playin. Im using it for like 3 months or more and its awesome.. 60fps without lags even if im playin 2/3hours from 100% to 0% battery. u should try if u want to play mobas on mi5 ))))
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Yeah, i already knew about that sir, but i dont know, my phone seem stuttering for a long term usage, i tried with JDC 7.1 and Viver OS, on both ROMs i deleted those files, but still, after a while the lags came back., but thank you for answering
I am also searching for this one, but for another game haha, I bought it for playing Rules of survival but while playing fps drops, i tried on several roms but still didnt find solution, i would be glad if you tell me if you find any solution?
richard el renthlei said:
I am also searching for this one, but for another game haha, I bought it for playing Rules of survival but while playing fps drops, i tried on several roms but still didnt find solution, i would be glad if you tell me if you find any solution?
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I can't say for sure for now my friend, now im using purefusion os 7.1 and deleted thermal files, its on day 2 now i think, and the only issue i got is the force close apps sometimes like 9 gag, youtube and i cant delete a system app like google camera, i want to change it to the updated version, tried to delete it with link2sd, didnt work, and the gesture setting is force close when i open it, but regarding to gaming performance, its great, at least for now even tho its warm , but acceptable, will report here about 1 or two weeks my friend
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I can't say for sure for now my friend, now im using purefusion os 7.1 and deleted thermal files, its on day 2 now i think, and the only issue i got is the force close apps sometimes like 9 gag, youtube and i cant delete a system app like google camera, i want to change it to the updated version, tried to delete it with link2sd, didnt work, and the gesture setting is force close when i open it, but regarding to gaming performance, its great, at least for now even tho its warm , but acceptable, will report here about 1 or two weeks my friend
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Ok ill wait for your update, i usually play with charging my battery, will it be alright if i remove thermal for that?
Adreno 330 latest drivers for Android 6.0+
The latest driver in custom ROMs causes system reboot after playing any type of video. I removed the files that caused the problem. It seems to be all right.
I ported this drivers from Qualcomm latest adreno drivers June/2016 and may/2016.
Work only in 6.0+ custom roms.
Don't try in official Rom or custom 5.0 or 5.1 roms It Will Brick Your Device.
According to reports, the drive may also work on other devices that use adreno 330 gpu.
Can increase the benchmark score, improves the fluidity of the animations, 3D performance. say what else has improved
Make backup for your system partition so you can get safe.
Download:
1.1
https://mega.nz/#!ZgtFxJQK!O4fk55gVFYEdRyBGvtEz0N-aDEFkqwxnUq1nBckEJ6A
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ehzGVr4c3n7hYXw62zdbYAwQoxwopp5K/view?usp=drivesdk
1.3
https://mega.nz/#!881wFabR!kJ0pH-68Wry0-HiyXbVh9OVIvHYtDjPx6dNdf2VfpIc
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1sAsCsaGTzjRKC8HrVQ8AwIjQJ8IglNL6/view?usp=drivesdk
14v3
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1mqZbiRLNiBJbvEFzIf1XtbRI9WW-bDwu/view?usp=drivesdk
14v4
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1uUQN7cvr5wSbuNr6-lQxqRIzVm6ihNRV/view?usp=drivesdk
Flash via custom recovery.
If it was helpful to you, be sure to thank and credit the author if you wanted to use it in your project.
Contributors
DavidRN
Source Code:https://developer.qualcomm.com/softw...-gpu-sdk/tools
Version Information
Status:beta
Some games can have a very significant frame increase. This does not happen with all games, not everyone gets such a high boost, but you can feel the touch a bit more responsive in most games and apps.
This game on the ultra before was not playable. See the frame rate before and after the driver:
I flashed it and i can confirm now my phone feels better specially on games
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Mcha01 said:
I flashed it and i can confirm now my phone feels better specially on games
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I tested on mokee rom 7.1 and 8.1, stable so far.
Just flashed on ResurrectionRemix 6.0.0 everything is way smoother especially on games thanks!
Will this work with Android 8.1
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Will this work with Android 8.1
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by the sounds of it, yes.
I flashed the driver a couple of hours ago, for now seems to be fine, not known obvious improvements maybe I have to look a little better, in any case it crashed once WhatsApp and while playing a game an hour ago the phone was frozen for a few seconds. ( Rom los 14.1 )
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Henki98 said:
I flashed the driver a couple of hours ago, for now seems to be fine, not known obvious improvements maybe I have to look a little better, in any case it crashed once WhatsApp and while playing a game an hour ago the phone was frozen for a few seconds. ( Rom los 14.1 )
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I think it will be more noticeable if you go back to the old driver, maybe you will notice more of lag input. About the freeze, I have not had it yet, I'll try to repeat the error. Are you using custom kernel, CPU voltage settings? which applications were you using?
What am I doing wrong? The performance is even slightly worse with this mod. Only on AnTuTu GPU is a little bit better...
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I think it will be more noticeable if you go back to the old driver, maybe you will notice more of lag input. About the freeze, I have not had it yet, I'll try to repeat the error. Are you using custom kernel, CPU voltage settings? which applications were you using?
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I've been using the same rom and the same custom kernel (Tuned kernel) for an entire month with intense undervolting, but I've never had any problems with these settings that I've been using for more or less a year. Only yesterday this happened to me, and this morning the playstore crashed. These crashes have been 3 for now, but I have never had them before, but they are not continuous crashes, only once and then everything goes perfectly. The game I was playing was this: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.disney.wheresmywater2_goo
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audianer said:
What am I doing wrong? The performance is even slightly worse with this mod. Only on AnTuTu GPU is a little bit better...
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I still can not say exactly where it will increase or lose fps. I did some benchmarks and realized that in some cases there may be a decrease or increase in the frame rate. I am testing the driver for a few months and whenever I return to the previous drive I can see delay in the games, I will continue testing.
Henki98 said:
I've been using the same rom and the same custom kernel (Tuned kernel) for an entire month with intense undervolting, but I've never had any problems with these settings that I've been using for more or less a year. Only yesterday this happened to me, and this morning the playstore crashed. These crashes have been 3 for now, but I have never had them before, but they are not continuous crashes, only once and then everything goes perfectly. The game I was playing was this: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.disney.wheresmywater2_goo
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In Mokee so far I have not had any problems 7.1 and 8.1, I will check in Los14.1.
Try this:
https://mega.nz/#!01NlDQTB!O4fk55gVFYEdRyBGvtEz0N-aDEFkqwxnUq1nBckEJ6A
audianer said:
What am I doing wrong? The performance is even slightly worse with this mod. Only on AnTuTu GPU is a little bit better...
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I think you're better now. A new version will be posted shortly.
New version:
Fixed low performance in some apps
Fixed the instability in roms LOS-14.1 (I hope).
Cm15.1 crash watch video crash playing game
@DavidRN : What ROM are you using?
limalvin1203 said:
Cm15.1 crash watch video crash playing game
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Wait a moment, I believe I have uploaded the wrong file.
Thanks
audianer said:
@DavidRN : What ROM are you using?
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Mokee 7.1 + Tuned Kernel
Hello community,i had my nexus 6 for 3 years now,been through much Rom/kernel combos,and i never had this kind of lag that i have with all pie roms.Thing is i dont have much apps,maybe two non google apps and probably stock gapps package,so no bloat.With this kind of apps i never get a single hint of lag at lets say purenexus 7.1.2 and franco.Not a single stutter.And ui looks kinda same because i have pixel launchers.Dont get me wrong i know this device is old now,but if it can run 7.1.2 without lag i didnt expect it to lag this much in all pie roms,and i tryed them all,did all i could,even franco cant help eliminate lag,and i dont have encryption.And lag is serious,it happens when scrolling,i know nexus 6 is not oneplus 6t kind of device,and i know games do lag more now,but lagging in ui is just weird,my redmi 5 dont lag at all on android p custom rom,and redmi 5 is just lame compared to nexus.So my question is,do anyone else get lag?My friend also gets lag only on pie roms on his nexus 6.Is there something they did with pie to older devices,i really wish to find answer.I tryed lineage 16 and its really good,it gives new look to nexus,and thank developers from depth of my heart,but it would be soo good to eliminate this weird lag,just because i know this device is way more capable of running pie than most device that have it now.Weird thing is its sometimes very smooth and next moment it lags like hell,it seems like its running at 15 fps.
If you can help me any sort of way id be very grateful.Viva la nexus 6,my friends,lovers of shamu,best phone ever.:fingers-crossed:
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Hello community,i had my nexus 6 for 3 years now,been through much Rom/kernel combos,and i never had this kind of lag that i have with all pie roms.Thing is i dont have much apps,maybe two non google apps and probably stock gapps package,so no bloat.With this kind of apps i never get a single hint of lag at lets say purenexus 7.1.2 and franco.Not a single stutter.And ui looks kinda same because i have pixel launchers.Dont get me wrong i know this device is old now,but if it can run 7.1.2 without lag i didnt expect it to lag this much in all pie roms,and i tryed them all,did all i could,even franco cant help eliminate lag,and i dont have encryption.And lag is serious,it happens when scrolling,i know nexus 6 is not oneplus 6t kind of device,and i know games do lag more now,but lagging in ui is just weird,my redmi 5 dont lag at all on android p custom rom,and redmi 5 is just lame compared to nexus.So my question is,do anyone else get lag?My friend also gets lag only on pie roms on his nexus 6.Is there something they did with pie to older devices,i really wish to find answer.I tryed lineage 16 and its really good,it gives new look to nexus,and thank developers from depth of my heart,but it would be soo good to eliminate this weird lag,just because i know this device is way more capable of running pie than most device that have it now.Weird thing is its sometimes very smooth and next moment it lags like hell,it seems like its running at 15 fps.
If you can help me any sort of way id be very grateful.Viva la nexus 6,my friends,lovers of shamu,best phone ever.:fingers-crossed:
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I dont experience lag on Pie personally, buttery smooth for me. If you havent tried it yet, try rebooting your phone in safe mode and once its fully booted, do a boot into normal mode. I have had times with severe lag and this cleared it all up.
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I dont experience lag on Pie personally, buttery smooth for me. If you havent tried it yet, try rebooting your phone in safe mode and once its fully booted, do a boot into normal mode. I have had times with severe lag and this cleared it all up.
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May i ask what rom/kernel combo do you run?My nexus lags and gets hot on all pie roms,and that dont happen at nougat or oreo roms.I tend to run phone as lean as podsible,so i dont have apps that i dont need,and i think that shouldnt be a problem,and i see when using phone that sometimes its smooth,and next second it lags when i scroll.I restored to purenexus 7.1.2 and i doesnt have a single hickup on it,battery lasts long,and it doesnt overheat at all.Problem is i like pie more,than nougat or oreo.
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May i ask what rom/kernel combo do you run?My nexus lags and gets hot on all pie roms,and that dont happen at nougat or oreo roms.I tend to run phone as lean as podsible,so i dont have apps that i dont need,and i think that shouldnt be a problem,and i see when using phone that sometimes its smooth,and next second it lags when i scroll.I restored to purenexus 7.1.2 and i doesnt have a single hickup on it,battery lasts long,and it doesnt overheat at all.Problem is i like pie more,than nougat or oreo.
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I was running Nitrogen for a couple months till 2 days ago and I was using its stock kernel most of that time. I am now running Revolution Remix Pie with Popcorn kernel. No lag at all. I use Apex Launcher and Brave Browser. Mostly use phone for calls , texts , and youtube. No issues at all. I dont use any backups that came from Nougat or Oreo. Try what I suggested.
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I was running Nitrogen for a couple months till 2 days ago and I was using its stock kernel most of that time. I am now running Revolution Remix Pie with Popcorn kernel. No lag at all. I use Apex Launcher and Brave Browser. Mostly use phone for calls , texts , and youtube. No issues at all. I dont use any backups that came from Nougat or Oreo. Try what I suggested.
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Ok will try nitrogen,with its stock kernel,to see how it goes,hopefully it will be better than lineage or carbon. Ty,and i will try rr later if nitro lags .
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Ok will try nitrogen,with its stock kernel,to see how it goes,hopefully it will be better than lineage or carbon. Ty,and i will try rr later if nitro lags .
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Probably not as Nitrogen uses LineagOS's kernel and device repository
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Probably not as Nitrogen uses LineagOS's kernel and device repository
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You were right,it was even worse,lagging even on 100% battery,with no additional apps installed other than some basic gapps,this is becoming frustrating for me,maybe its only my device,but it makes me sad that it cant work well with pie.Can it be because its 32bit cpu?I really cant beleive that my nexus 5 on pie works like 200% better,doesnt have a hint of lag.Its kinda unbeleivable.I did all i could time to go back to my old purenexus and franco,at least it was solid and not laggy.Maybe this phone just isnt strong enough .Thank you all,if anyone has any more ideas ill gladly listen to them.And thank you elektroshmock for caring about our device,keep the good work :fingers-crossed:
For how long have you tried each pie rom? I believe that the rom runs some background optimization after install, so I wouldn't judge speed until a few days have passed.
Does it run faster when connected to power?
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You were right,it was even worse,lagging even on 100% battery,with no additional apps installed other than some basic gapps,this is becoming frustrating for me,maybe its only my device,but it makes me sad that it cant work well with pie.Can it be because its 32bit cpu?I really cant beleive that my nexus 5 on pie works like 200% better,doesnt have a hint of lag.Its kinda unbeleivable.I did all i could time to go back to my old purenexus and franco,at least it was solid and not laggy.Maybe this phone just isnt strong enough .Thank you all,if anyone has any more ideas ill gladly listen to them.And thank you elektroshmock for caring about our device,keep the good work :fingers-crossed:
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The lags have to be from your personal phone or setup. Like I said, I dont experience lag because if I did and I thought the Nexus 6 in general was uncapable of running PIE smoothly, I would have replaced it by now. Did you reboot your phone in safe mode and then back in normal mode while using a PIE rom?
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For how long have you tried each pie rom? I believe that the rom runs some background optimization after install, so I wouldn't judge speed until a few days have passed.
Does it run faster when connected to power?
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Well i cant allow myself to use laggy phone for more than few hours,lets say all nougat roms i tryed ever smoothed out in few minutes,and never had lag or stutter or overheating,it seems to be the last os that worked without any problem on my phone,as oreo did work ok,but not like nougat,nor did i ever get battery life like i get on nougat.But id say oreo was acceptable.On all pie roms except maybe carbon that i used for 3 months,id get all sort of problems,cracking top speaker on 40% battery,shuting off at 35%(battery is not bad as this never happens except on pie),and as i saw pie roms with different kernels,do have strange cpu behavior,shutting of cores,settings not sticking when applied in kernel manager apps,i disabled mpdecision,still same,i lock cpu on max,set governor to performance,gpu governor also performance,i did everything i knew(not to brag but i think i know a lot about this device)but i think my unit which was first batch even tho i bought it later as new,it has some weird electricity,power delivery issuses,it seems like it needs more power(voltage?)then the battery can provide.And this speaker electricity crackle annoys me.When it makes that sound i think its gonna burn or something,because that sort of sound is same like when you hear electrical sparkles and it starts to lag heavily,never ever i got this strange sound on any phone i had.And when using on my turbo charger it gets so hot i think i would be able to fry egg on it without any problem.
@Derrick
I did all you told me,started in safe mode on pie nitrogen,but even in safe mode it lagged heavily,i dont really know what happens with my shamu and on pie i think i got 58 celsius on battery and 87 celsius on cpu i thought thing is gonna burn to ashes.Same second i revert to pure nexus and franco it becames ultra smooth,and ultra cold now i have 23 celsius on battery,and 35 on cpu.Just very weird,because performance on nougat tells me my device is more then acceptable of running everything smoothly,but for some reason pie roms breaks it into half.I think i heard something about opengl(skia)render on pie making it lag.If someone knows how to force old opengl to use it on pie tell me,i think ill try that if i get any information on how to do it.
Thank you for trying to help me guys .
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Well i cant allow myself to use laggy phone for more than few hours,lets say all nougat roms i tryed ever smoothed out in few minutes,and never had lag or stutter or overheating,it seems to be the last os that worked without any problem on my phone,as oreo did work ok,but not like nougat,nor did i ever get battery life like i get on nougat.But id say oreo was acceptable.On all pie roms except maybe carbon that i used for 3 months,id get all sort of problems,cracking top speaker on 40% battery,shuting off at 35%(battery is not bad as this never happens except on pie),and as i saw pie roms with different kernels,do have strange cpu behavior,shutting of cores,settings not sticking when applied in kernel manager apps,i disabled mpdecision,still same,i lock cpu on max,set governor to performance,gpu governor also performance,i did everything i knew(not to brag but i think i know a lot about this device)but i think my unit which was first batch even tho i bought it later as new,it has some weird electricity,power delivery issuses,it seems like it needs more power(voltage?)then the battery can provide.And this speaker electricity crackle annoys me.When it makes that sound i think its gonna burn or something,because that sort of sound is same like when you hear electrical sparkles and it starts to lag heavily,never ever i got this strange sound on any phone i had.And when using on my turbo charger it gets so hot i think i would be able to fry egg on it without any problem.
@Derrick
I did all you told me,started in safe mode on pie nitrogen,but even in safe mode it lagged heavily,i dont really know what happens with my shamu and on pie i think i got 58 celsius on battery and 87 celsius on cpu i thought thing is gonna burn to ashes.Same second i revert to pure nexus and franco it becames ultra smooth,and ultra cold now i have 23 celsius on battery,and 35 on cpu.Just very weird,because performance on nougat tells me my device is more then acceptable of running everything smoothly,but for some reason pie roms breaks it into half.I think i heard something about opengl(skia)render on pie making it lag.If someone knows how to force old opengl to use it on pie tell me,i think ill try that if i get any information on how to do it.
Thank you for trying to help me guys .
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To me, it sounds like its a good time to buy another phone.
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To me, it sounds like its a good time to buy another phone.
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It probably would be good time if it was lagging on nougat,but i can keep it for some more time,i think i wont even sold it like i did with other phones i had(it will stay with me just like my nexus 5),it really is my favourite phone,even tho its not perfect by any means.I thought about possible new phone and i hate new trends of bezeless screens,and especially i hate 18+:9 screen ratios,it makes phone look like tv remote,and there isnt much phones that fall into these categories.And of all the good phones i think the one id get is probably pixel/pixel xl and pixel 2 but every one of them is plagued by its own set of hardware problems,and that makes me unsure about possible purchase.
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.On all pie roms except maybe carbon that i used for 3 months,id get all sort of problems,cracking top speaker on 40% battery,shuting off at 35%(battery is not bad as this never happens except on pie),and as i saw pie roms with different kernels,do have strange cpu behavior,shutting of cores,settings not sticking when applied in kernel manager apps,i disabled mpdecision,still same,i lock cpu on max,set governor to performance,gpu governor also performance,i did everything i knew(not to brag but i think i know a lot about this device).
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I wonder what makes Carbon so special, because it's using LineageOS's Kernel and devicetree for shamu.
I don't know which Pie ROM you're using now, but at least LineageOS for shamu doesn't want you to fiddle with kernel settings.
If you choose to do so there is a very high chance your cpu freqs get stuck at very high levels, which causes your devices temperature to rise, which causes thermal deamon to kick in and limit your maximum freqs.
In general no matter how much you think you know about your device before you fiddle with any setting you should ask yourself "why didn't the device maintainer set it in the first place"
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I wonder what makes Carbon so special, because it's using LineageOS's Kernel and devicetree for shamu.
I don't know which Pie ROM you're using now, but at least LineageOS for shamu doesn't want you to fiddle with kernel settings.
If you choose to do so there is a very high chance your cpu freqs get stuck at very high levels, which causes your devices temperature to rise, which causes thermal deamon to kick in and limit your maximum freqs.
In general no matter how much you think you know about your device before you fiddle with any setting you should ask yourself "why didn't the device maintainer set it in the first place"
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Truth be told,i surely know less than you do about this device,and i said it didnt cause me problems with mostly battery.At least thats how i remember it,it gave me less problems for some reason than all other pie roms.But after some time it started doing the same thing like all other roms and that made it unusable so i got back to nougat which im using today even tho i like pie more,design wise.Nougat has much better performance and much better battery life while also not overheating.Id really love that pie works like nougat,but if it isnt its not end of world for me,ill still happilly use shamu on nougat.Maybe lags are only on my device,but i cant find any reason that it happens,i tryed all i potentially know,and its not shame to accept that i dont know everything,thats why i asked people here that probably know way more than i do.I with my minimal knowledge suspect that shamus CPU is culprit here,being 32bit,and maybe new renderer in pie which cause system lag for me and some other guys.My friend lags on stock pie,stock kernel on his pixel 2 xl,thats just not acceptable.Google software+google phone(hardware) and it causes lag on snapdragon 835,its not weird that it lags on 6 year old,ancient 805 which is hardly any stronger that nexus 5 snap 800,but nexus 5 have 1080p and shamu 2k screen,and that probably causes problems for nex6.Being first batch of 2k screen devices i think system on chip that they put in it wasnt ready for what it needed to do.Just my thoughts.
Im still running miui 10 and beside sensor issues in the worst moments and batteryperformance decreased (8-10h sot), im pretty happy.
The release of miui 14 looks pretty interesting, same like miui 13. Unluckily xiaomi will never bring any of those and therefore might xiaomi.eu never aswell.
Meanwhile is there any miui13 port which is super stable and perfectly working (i heart of ghost, miui tn, aphixrog). Im looking for something to flash, forget and never regret (for the next full year).
How is the battery performance ?
I would prefer stock vendor & kernal, no custom "magic" from few days experience dev .
Or should i forget about the "upgrade", stay on miui10 and investigate the drain issues ?
I've tried Abhix.
Thread '[Q] Has anyone tried miui custom roms MIUI SR or AbhiX ROG Edition (both are ports of MIUI 13 on Android 12)' https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...h-are-ports-of-miui-13-on-android-12.4530039/
How is it possible that you have 8-10h SOT in 2+-year old phone? 5h SOT is pretty good, 6 is very good.
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How is it possible that you have 8-10h SOT in 2+-year old phone? 5h SOT is pretty good, 6 is very good.
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Depends on the usage, but everything on my phone is adjusted to consume as less as possible (but i havent done wild stuff like lower clockspeed, kernal, voltage... only debloat, disabled everything which could be battery intensive in settings, using leandroid + greenify), meanwhile i range between 7-9 hours i guess, when i fresh installed it i ranged between 8-11 hours.
My battery should still have efficiency around 85-90%, im trying to hold battery between 15-85%.
To answer your question. I personally think everything after miui 10 is bad.
I may gonna try MiuiTN, according telegram groups that seem to be the best miui 13 port.
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Depends on the usage, but everything on my phone is adjusted to consume as less as possible (but i havent done wild stuff like lower clockspeed, kernal, voltage... only debloat, disabled everything which could be battery intensive in settings, using leandroid + greenify), meanwhile i range between 7-9 hours i guess, when i fresh installed it i ranged between 8-11 hours.
My battery should still have efficiency around 85-90%, im trying to hold battery between 15-85%.
To answer your question. I personally think everything after miui 10 is bad.
I may gonna try MiuiTN, according telegram groups that seem to be the best miui 13 port.
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8-11h SOT? Picrel or didin't happen.
Which version are you going to test (https://miuitn.vercel.app/Rom_MiuiTN/Raphael/) and is there any info how to install (recovery version, filesystem, etc.)? And the most important - how safe is this?
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8-11h SOT? Picrel or didin't happen.
Which version are you going to test (https://miuitn.vercel.app/Rom_MiuiTN/Raphael/) and is there any info how to install (recovery version, filesystem, etc.)? And the most important - how safe is this?
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I dont have specific plans so far, because i didnt got enough time, maybe in christmas vacation.
Probably 1.8 and i read once that you need a specific recovery (unluckily cant tell you which).
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I dont have specific plans so far, because i didnt got enough time, maybe in christmas vacation.
Probably 1.8 and i read once that you need a specific recovery (unluckily cant tell you which).
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I checked miuitn 13 A12 but it doesn't have all languages (there is English and a few Asian ones only). Android security updates are from June, while RaphaelOS (also Miui 13 - 22.8.25, A12) are from August 1st. In general, I have the impression that all these roms are very similar. On stock kernel geekbench is 690 and 2675. On Steroid is 700 and 2747. But AbhiX feels more snappy.
Both roms (AbhiX as well) are without encription so you need standard recovery (I have latest official OrangeFox).
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I checked miuitn 13 A12 but it doesn't have all languages (there is English and a few Asian ones only). Android security updates are from June, while RaphaelOS (also Miui 13 - 22.8.25, A12) are from August 1st. In general, I have the impression that all these roms are very similar. On stock kernel geekbench is 690 and 2675. On Steroid is 700 and 2747. But AbhiX feels more snappy.
Both roms (AbhiX as well) are without encription so you need standard recovery (I have latest official OrangeFox).
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If there is a workaround to get native language in apps for me personally its not a big problem if i got english in os.
I havent tested a single miui 13 port so far, so i cant bring useful informations to this conversation unluckily.
According telegram groups MiuiTN seem to be the most stable, balanced rom and others are "kanged", but well yeah people talk on telegram...
I unluckily wont have time to test all of them myself so i might follow your experience ;D and maybe some other guys come along this thread and share their experience aswell.
Worst case i stay another year on miui 10 and get Rog Phone 6 after... Im just hell of annoyed my sensors do not work how they should on miui10 sometimes.
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If there is a workaround to get native language in apps for me personally its not a big problem if i got english in os.
I havent tested a single miui 13 port so far, so i cant bring useful informations to this conversation unluckily.
According telegram groups MiuiTN seem to be the most stable, balanced rom and others are "kanged", but well yeah people talk on telegram...
I unluckily wont have time to test all of them myself so i might follow your experience ;D and maybe some other guys come along this thread and share their experience aswell.
Worst case i stay another year on miui 10 and get Rog Phone 6 after... Im just hell of annoyed my sensors do not work how they should on miui10 sometimes.
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About Rog Phone 6 - it bends -
About native language - you can try https://github.com/BlueCat300/XposedAppSettings/releases
Dont go for RaphaelOs.
Better go for Miui12 or MiuiTn.
Im on VoltageOs 2.1 which is awesome, i heard also good stuff from Los20.
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8-11h SOT? Picrel or didin't happen.
Which version are you going to test (https://miuitn.vercel.app/Rom_MiuiTN/Raphael/) and is there any info how to install (recovery version, filesystem, etc.)? And the most important - how safe is this?
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BTW I'm using Evolution X with stock settings at 72Hz with no battery saving tweaks. I bought the phone more than 3 years ago and use it daily. Afraid to replace this beast because I'm so used to this good SOT.
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BTW I'm using Evolution X with stock settings at 72Hz with no battery saving tweaks. I bought the phone more than 3 years ago and use it daily. Afraid to replace this beast because I'm so used to this good SOT.
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I easily reach 10 hours sot + on voltageOS. I shared some screenshots of 11-12 hours sot on my 3 year old battery in telegram group with light-medium usage. My idle is dope aswell, most of the time lower then 1% (ext4, voltage2.1, bitgapps, magisk delta).
I heard similar good from LOS20, Android 13 seem to be awesome in terms of background managment (im using 100+ apps).
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I easily reach 10 hours sot + on voltageOS. I shared some screenshots of 11-12 hours sot on my 3 year old battery in telegram group with light-medium usage. My idle is dope aswell, most of the time lower then 1% (ext4, voltage2.1, bitgapps, magisk delta).
I heard similar good from LOS20, Android 13 seem to be awesome in terms of background managment (im using 100+ apps).
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Did you perhaps have a chance to use EvoX as well? If so, how would you say it compares to VoltageOS?
I've heard only good things about VoltageOS. Are there any issues with it, stuff that does not work?
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Did you perhaps have a chance to use EvoX as well? If so, how would you say it compares to VoltageOS?
I've heard only good things about VoltageOS. Are there any issues with it, stuff that does not work?
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I have used EvoX 2 years back for a while, cant compare it unfortunatly and i wont flash another rom until i buy a new phone probably.
Well unluckily there are a few issues on Vos2.1:
- Udfps unlock sometimes does not work. (there seem to be the same issue on Los20 and according Los20 dev it seem to be a issue with android system)
- nightmode, reading mode, extra dim does not work together with dc dimming after unlock. (according Voltageos dev this is a common issue on most aosp roms)
- from time to time i notice scrolling laggs and rarely in games aswell. (could be related to kernel, but not sure)
- expandable screenshot ?long screenshot? slightly buggy ? (on miui it have been working better)
- on twitter i have noticed some issues like i couldnt go back to overview after reenter app, on discord after editing i have noticed scrolling does not work anymore. (but those issues can be caused by the app / restricted battery setting / android system idk)
Thats all i have noticed so far, more or less (if i have not missed anything). Anyway im very happy and think its a really great rom. The only thing which is bothering me the most is udfps unlock inconsistency and for night mode + dc dimming i am using twilight. (those things have been working better on miui, not gonna lie. )
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I have used EvoX 2 years back for a while, cant compare it unfortunatly and i wont flash another rom until i buy a new phone probably.
Well unluckily there are a few issues on Vos2.1:
- Udfps unlock sometimes does not work. (there seem to be the same issue on Los20 and according Los20 dev it seem to be a issue with android system)
- nightmode, reading mode, extra dim does not work together with dc dimming after unlock. (according Voltageos dev this is a common issue on most aosp roms)
- from time to time i notice scrolling laggs and rarely in games aswell.
- expandable screenshot ?long screenshot? slightly buggy ? (on miui it have been working better)
- on twitter i have noticed some issues like i couldnt go back to overview after reenter app, on discord after editing i have noticed scrolling does not work anymore. (but those issues can be caused by the app / restricted battery setting / android system)
Thats all i have noticed so far, more or less (if i have not missed anything). Anyway im very happy and think its a really great rom. The only thing which is bothering me the most is udfps unlock inconsistency and for night mode + dc dimming i am using twilight.
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Thanks for the thorough review, friend!
I might just give it a go one day. I must admit that MiuiTN also looks tempting since I like the classic Miui style, but I can't find much reliable information on that rom.
olat_dragneel said:
Thanks for the thorough review, friend!
I might just give it a go one day. I must admit that MiuiTN also looks tempting since I like the classic Miui style, but I can't find much reliable information on that rom.
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I have not been using miuitn for a long time, so i unluckily cant tell you more about that. Miui13 ports for sure arent as stable as official releases / xiaomi eu roms.
So it might depends on your personal usage, you might not get around trying it out at your own.
You can also join the telegram group, there you can follow discussions about miuitn releases. People this days most likely use telegram. (which i personally dislike over xda, but what ever.)