V20 worth it? - T-Mobile Note 7 Questions & Answers

Does anyone think that v20 is worth the trade? I'm 50/50 since both phones are almost identical. Any opinions of its worth it?

im in the same boat, v20 seems legit but man, after holding my note 7 I think I will have to keep it. Well exchange it for another note 7

I'm going to watch the forums here, two weeks after the V20 hits retail. Should be interesting.

Waiting is the key
Yeah I'm gonna wait as well. Once it comes out, which is the 26th of this month I believe, then I shall decide if it's worth keeping the note or not. I'm just glad the recall promotion runs all the way through the 30th so that's a relief

I had the V10 for 2 weeks and it scratched very easily, the V10 was great so I bet the V20 is even better. The better question is to have an S-Pen or to Not have an S-Pen?
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Yoshi1221 said:
I had the V10 for 2 weeks and it scratched very easily, the V10 was great so I bet the V20 is even better. The better question is to have an S-Pen or to Not have an S-Pen?
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I haven't researched on an S-Pen alternative for touchscreen devices. Are there any out there, without such an "eraser head tip?" Love the precision of the S-Pen tip. Just wanted to know what is out on the market, if I were to get an LG V20, and wanted to use a stylus with a small tip like the S-Pen.

Yoshi1221 said:
I had the V10 for 2 weeks and it scratched very easily, the V10 was great so I bet the V20 is even better. The better question is to have an S-Pen or to Not have an S-Pen?
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I honestly almost never use the S-pen. I take it out occasionally but just to play around. I don't see it's value for me personally.

Yea, I ALWAYS use it for hours after first getting the phone but I never seem to stick with it. Honestly, I would really love to try out the LG v20. It looks surprisingly really really good. However, I'm sure i will get tired of it quicker than the Note7.

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Does anyone think that v20 is worth the trade? I'm 50/50 since both phones are almost identical. Any opinions of its worth it?
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Yoshi1221 said:
I had the V10 for 2 weeks and it scratched very easily, the V10 was great so I bet the V20 is even better. The better question is to have an S-Pen or to Not have an S-Pen?
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The V20 is impressive and a worthy trade for the Note 7 IMO! You are getting everything minus the S-Pen but plus a removable battery! I'm not sure, but I think the bootloader is even unlocked. I'm not switching, but based on specs, it's a good trade!

RaymondPJR said:
The V20 is impressive and a worthy trade for the Note 7 IMO! You are getting everything minus the S-Pen but plus a removable battery! I'm not sure, but I think the bootloader is even unlocked. I'm not switching, but based on specs, it's a good trade!
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dont count on the bootloader being unlocked. when the v10 first came out it was locked but quickly unlocked. the same thing happened with the g5. i had both on tmobile which in the past usually came with unlocked bootloaders. unlocked bootloaders are becoming a thing of the past on tmobile.

Going from the Note 4 to the V10 was a disappointment screen wise. I have a feeling going from the Note 7 to the V20 IPS will be the same for me.

Have fun with the bootloops !

The V20 is impressive, I'm watching the forum section, and will try hand's on when in the stores....

Any word on the price? If its less than $700 (lol yeah i doubt it) then maybe I'd consider it

drum747 said:
Going from the Note 4 to the V10 was a disappointment screen wise. I have a feeling going from the Note 7 to the V20 IPS will be the same for me.
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This. The screen on the V10 felt like a step backwards. Plus, it started having some burn in/ghosting a month or so before getting the Note7.
The camera and sound were great though. The fact it supported micro SD is what really made me get it over the Note 5. Build quality was good IMO, as I was able to rock the phone naked for almost a year and it still looks great. Just a few scuffs on the rubberized back.Chipset was slightly on the weak side for a flagship, but that's just being over critical.
All in all, I feel the V20 is a solid phone and a good step up from the V10. I doubt the screen will be as good as the Note7 however, and considering how much I look at it when using the phone (~90%), I feel it is something that can't be overlooked.

I am really considering the V20 as well. The Note 7 is nice but at the same time, I wouldn't mind moving to something else. I have always been a Note guy too, Note 3,4,5, and now 7. All the real world reports of the scratching make it feel like you have to really baby this phone. It sounds like the screen will be better than the V10 but I am sure it won't equal the Samsung displays either. As long as it is "Good" on its own I think it may be a good trade off for the superior sound quality. If it really is that much better like they claim.

From the android central podcast lg expects low sales of this device, if it comes in at $600 that would be a killer of a deal.
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Any word on the price? If its less than $700 (lol yeah i doubt it) then maybe I'd consider it
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all the sites i have seen have it at $699. i am really considering getting a V20 to replace my note. i am really not a fan of the edge screen on the note. i really don't use the s pen at all. i also like the fact the v20 has the removable battery. sound quality is supposed to be amazing. i honestly think my note 4 is almost as good as my note 7. might have to jump ship from samsung.

Been trying to get excited about the V20 for audio reasons but that's gotta be one of the ugliest phones out there right now.

I don't find the V20 too ugly. I just hope I'm not disappointed by camera and software. But, I'm currently experiencing bad battery life and major lagging on my Note 7. I'd just like to try something different. Who knows, I might like it or I might hate it, lol.

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Opinion on this phone from an LG hater

I've absolutely bashed LG for every phone they made because in all honesty, theyre crap. They are horrible cell phone manufacturers and they should stick to TV's.
After seeing the Optimus4X I was pretty impressed, but it was an LG so I wouldnt buy it anyways.
Then I saw the Optimus G. Hmmmmm theyre getting somewhere, the specs are there and the phone actually looks nice. But its STILL an LG.
Then the Nexus 4....holy cow this thing is amazing. PRICE, specs, build quality (that i can tell from videos)
But its an LG...........
IDC
The fact that it doesnt have LTE or a removable battery or expandable storage was nothing new. They had already said that it was not going to happen. Except for the LTE I mean. Thats not that important. Only ATT is a GSM carrier with LTE right now and they hardly have any. So pretty much no one cares..
BUT ITS AN LG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I could just care less. Maybe they had to use them to keep the price down. Its ok Google. With that firepower, it could be a ZTE or something crappy like that and I would still buy it. Put a case over it and cover that branding LOL.
But all in all, how can you hate a phone this cheap with these specs from Google?
If you do, im sorry but go away. go buy an iphonecrap
I was literally about to pay full price for a galaxynote2. but then this was announced.
I can buy 2 of these if i want for the same money.
Enjoy the phones my friends. I will.
(if you dont go away)
uhh... WHAT!?
As long as its not a kyocera, I'm good with it
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Yeah....it looks nice but I'm going to hold off gushing praise until we know it can deliver all that s4 pro performance without overheating and choking down all the battery.
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LGs typically sucked because of the horrible software builds. This being a nexus pretty much eliminates that big issue.
The s4 pro has great battery. The optimus g gets 8 hours screen on. The issue is the prerelease software the reviewers got. Expect the final version to do similar if not better the optimus g.
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As long as its not a kyocera, I'm good with it
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Hahaha LmAO I have to agree ROFL
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I'm in the same boat, always bashed LG ever since I recommended the original LG Optimus (A budget phone when it came out) to two friends and never heard the end of it.. apps were crashing without reason, the whole phone would lag up randomly and it was just chaos, I ended up installing CM7 on them both and it stopped some but not all problems.
I didn't even pay attention to the LG market up until recently, I thought well if it's LG then it will have a childish UI and be built for idiots. Wow was I wrong with this one. I haven't been this impressed with the design of a phone since I got my iPhone 4 on launch day. The iPhone 4, if anyone remembers is the only iPhone that I actually appreciate because it was completely different and built to look good while remain more powerful than the competition at the time.
I am going to buy the Nexus 4 as soon as I can and hope that it's just as good as the hype makes it out to be, I've already found a buyer for my S3 i9300 (not LTE version) for a cool $400 which gives me enough money to get the 16GB for $399 here in Australia and only spend $20 on shipping. But if it's anything like the original Optimus, this phone will be finding a place in a drawer and I'll go back to Samsung, Exynos sources/documentation or not.
TL;DR This phone better be good or else my newly regained faith in LG will diminish as quickly as it came.
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Cool story bro
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DarkRyoushii said:
I'm in the same boat, always bashed LG ever since I recommended the original LG Optimus (A budget phone when it came out) to two friends and never heard the end of it.. apps were crashing without reason, the whole phone would lag up randomly and it was just chaos, I ended up installing CM7 on them both and it stopped some but not all problems.
I didn't even pay attention to the LG market up until recently, I thought well if it's LG then it will have a childish UI and be built for idiots. Wow was I wrong with this one. I haven't been this impressed with the design of a phone since I got my iPhone 4 on launch day. The iPhone 4, if anyone remembers is the only iPhone that I actually appreciate because it was completely different and built to look good while remain more powerful than the competition at the time.
I am going to buy the Nexus 4 as soon as I can and hope that it's just as good as the hype makes it out to be, I've already found a buyer for my S3 i9300 (not LTE version) for a cool $400 which gives me enough money to get the 16GB for $399 here in Australia and only spend $20 on shipping. But if it's anything like the original Optimus, this phone will be finding a place in a drawer and I'll go back to Samsung, Exynos sources/documentation or not.
TL;DR This phone better be good or else my newly regained faith in LG will diminish as quickly as it came.
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I'm still using my LG Optimus. It's been the most reliable phone I've had. I've thrown this thing, quite literally, across rooms before, and it's 2 years old and I've yet to put a single scratch on it. Development has been amazing, I'm currently running a completely stable CM9 on it, and there is MIUI, AOKP, CM10, CM7, CNA, you name it, that are all slightly less stable. It might not be the best phone in the world, but it's good. My phone before this was a non-android LG phone, and it was pretty solid too. Software sucked (it was a feature phone. All software sucked for them lol) but once again, the build quality was solid. So far, I've only had good experience with LG Phones, and I'm guessing this Nexus will be a fine addition.
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Thanks for your opinion on a phone you only saw pictures of. So comforting coming from a guy that admits to being biased easily.
Oh and BTW... just to help you with electronics... LG produces ****ty TVs...
does this phone support micro sd card?
No but I hear people are fine with that since it has 128gb internal memory, LTE and a reinforced aluminum back and dual removable battery
even i hate lg but the nexus 4 is amazing!! i hated lg for its late updates , ugly firmware...
This hardly needs a thread of its own mate, come on.
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Upgrade to the G Flex?

As the title says, would anyone upgrade to the G Flex? I'm curious as I just finished watching MKBHD's video on how it heals from scratches and was really surprised. I knew it was good against scratches but a knife scratch? Really? I also did some googling and found that it will be coming to Sprint, AT&T, and T-Mobile So the hype train has officially started. In my opinion I think its some really cool tech and i have always been a fan boy of the curved screens (ex: GNex) but i'm still not sure its worth the money :good:
Link to MKBHD's video: http://gizmodo.com/watch-lgs-g-flex-kinda-self-heal-after-a-knife-attac-1468100430
Link to Sprint confirmation: https://twitter.com/evleaks/status/400495015454978048
I was actually pretty impressed with that video and had no clue this was coming to Sprint until now. The screen size alone makes it very intriguing! I was very close to pulling the trigger on the G2, but I figured I would wait until the HTC One 2 was officially announced. However...this phone definitely has my attention.
I'm seriously considering it.
Having a note 3 I may miss s-pen, but will be cool to have a phone I can use without a case.
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saw the commercial, very cool, the self healing and the flex screen. if it's more flexible, it'll be better. fit curve in pocket.
It's rather impressive, but I think i'd wait a bit to see how it handles more real life scenarios. And to be honest, I'm probably not going to upgrade until the next generation of processors.
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It's rather impressive, but I think i'd wait a bit to see how it handles more real life scenarios. And to be honest, I'm probably not going to upgrade until the next generation of processors.
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Makes sense.. I really am interested to see how this technology will evolve. Maybe they can make a self healing screen :silly:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axgklLCjTcE&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Not flexible enough...
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haha true enough! in my experience I don't care what circumstances are, u drop a phone on the edges and its breaking the glass. minus of course a quality case.
http://www.engadget.com/2013/11/26/lg-g-flex-hands-on/
As for the present, the improvements that curved phones have over their flat counterparts are rather minimal right now -- the extra value is certainly not significant enough for us to recommend that you spend $1,000 or more to get one
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Yeah I think I'll pass on this.
I'm considering the LG Flex as an upgrade to my Note 2. Especially since we're starting to see FCC clearance as this being a tri-band sprint device. The O-LED kinda worries me, but that isn't going to be a deal breaker.
lreillyi said:
It's rather impressive, but I think i'd wait a bit to see how it handles more real life scenarios. And to be honest, I'm probably not going to upgrade until the next generation of processors.
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Pocketnow made a "Real-World Torture Test" video for the G Flex: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxmbPDe0h-I
If it gets released with LTE support in north america i will pick one up for sure, looks awesome.
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For that price? Hell no I'll pass
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For that price? Hell no I'll pass
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G Flex if the BEST device on the market.
Make yours
wolfgart said:
G Flex if the BEST device on the market.
Make yours
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How does the screen look? It's the only thing holding me back as it's 720p.
My upgrade with Sprint is February 1st so right on time for the launch of this phone. I am pretty much torn between this and the Note 3. It's going to be a pretty tough choice, I've been debating a lot since it was announced when Sprint was going to release the G Flex.
Alot of early review say not worth it because of the price. Now that it comming to US I see price is going to be around same as Note 3. Im also considering the Note 3 or the G Flex. A big factor for me is if tmobile model can easily be rooted. If it's bootloader is locked the the choice is mede for me and choosing Note 3. I have the Note 2 and 720HD is fine when watching 1080p movies. Also camera picture quality is a big factor. Sadly G Flex does not have optical stabilization like the sibling G2.
just waiting to hold in my hand to deside and price also.
It's a fantastic phone to say the last. Has to be the most comfortable big phone.
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Alot of early review say not worth it because of the price. Now that it comming to US I see price is going to be around same as Note 3. Im also considering the Note 3 or the G Flex. A big factor for me is if tmobile model can easily be rooted. If it's bootloader is locked the the choice is mede for me and choosing Note 3. I have the Note 2 and 720HD is fine when watching 1080p movies. Also camera picture quality is a big factor. Sadly G Flex does not have optical stabilization like the sibling G2.
just waiting to hold in my hand to deside and price also.
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Upgrade from Note 3

Hi I have a Note 3 with me and I got a Note 4 during Cyber monday and I also have a T-Mobile gc for 100 off. Also T-Mobile is buying back my Note 3 for 325. So my cost for the Note 4 is 325 (650-325 Trade in credit) I am confused now as is it worth it to spend the extra money now. Can people who have upgraded from Note 3 to Note 4 comment on this.
A couple of things about me.
Wife has a iphone 6 plus and we take pics with the 6 plus so I can live without a not so gr8 camers.
I dont game at all.
I love the Spen and take notes also browse the web a lot o my phone.
I went from the 3 to 4. The s pen on the 4 is better. I draw etc and it works so much nicer. I also like the upgraded software for the pen.
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That's good to know, I don't draw but I like to write with the pen. other than that how is the rest. The writing is really nice on the Note 3 also. Overall how is tue performance of Note 4 805 processor?
Another thing is we are also going to get 64 bit processor Soon- And the Note 5 next year will definitely have 64 bit processor. So I am really confused is it worth while to wait or upgrade and more over my Note 3 is in good condition.
Well all I can say is everything I do feels faster. Chromecast video play better. I do a mix of reading, watching videos, games, drawing, writing and replaced my PC with the note line. The Note 4 only has 2 things I don't like. I don't need QHD, it makes on screen elements a little to small in Ingress. The other is they didn't keep the temperature sensor. Other then those two minor issues I can't find issue with it.
I can't wait to see some custom ROMs over the next few months. I have owned a lot of phones and tablets and by far the Note 4 is my favorite. I do use Nova launcher since I can't stand the limits in TW.
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Well I know the s6 was supposed to cone with new chip set but they stopped that. Nobody knows what note 5 will come with. 32 works great so is 64 gonna be better. Who knows. Samsung don't even know yet. They still have no real idea till they fix issues with s6 and then maybe focus on 5.0 for note 4 then get back to building note 5
BAD ASS NOTE 4
It's probably an unpopular opinion to have in this forum, but i'm a little disappointed I spent the money to upgrade. It's not to say the Note 4 isn't a great phone, out of anything out there right now it's an easy pick for me, but it is in no way a significant upgrade from the 3. There are some very slight improvements, the screen for one. The screen on the 3 was already stellar, so it's hard to achieve a major upgrade here. The camera gets slightly more detail, although the photos are noisier and have more sharpening added to them (possibly the reason for the added noise?). The battery life is worse, not by a significant amount, but it is still worse for me. I notice no speed difference at all, if one exists it's too slight for my level of perception. The speaker is worse, maybe not in quality, but in placement. The build is nicer, definitely feels higher quality, but this is perception too, the Note 3 was already proven to be quite tough. I keep my phone in a case, so that's ultimately not much of a benefit to me either. The fingerprint scanner I don't use, tried it and it often required multiple swipes, seems easier to just enter a code. The new white/cyan color scheme is atrocious, and I don't know what the hell they were thinking doing this on a phone with an AMOLED screen. Black backgrounds make MUCH more sense, not just to take advantage of high AMOLED contrast, but to conserve battery power also.
All in all, I regret spending $400 to upgrade, but the Note 4 is still an awesome phone. If I had been upgrading from an S4 or a Note 2, something along those lines, I think I would have a lot less regret about the money spent. Ultimately it depends on how much you want the slight improvements.
I came from an s4. Not a note 3.
But, I can tell you this phone is awesome. It's the "it" phone. And, will be for a long time.
Take the money for the note 3 and take the plunge.
My path has been g1and a wing, g2, s2, s3, s4, note 4.
I wouldn't have considered a note up until now because of the lack of development.
But, now. It's awesome. And, we are so lucky it's not locked down like the other carriers.
PS
We won't hate you because you admitted you have an iPhone.
Android_Monsters said:
I came from an s4. Not a note 3.
But, I can tell you this phone is awesome. It's the "it" phone. And, will be for a long time.
Take the money for the note 3 and take the plunge.
My path has been g1and a wing, g2, s2, s3, s4, note 4.
I wouldn't have considered a note up until now because of the lack of development.
But, now. It's awesome. And, we are so lucky it's not locked down like the other carriers.
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We won't hate you because you admitted you have an iPhone.
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We have the iPhone and there are some things which the iPhone is better, but again per me it all depends on what you do with the phone..
T mobile offered you 325 for your note 3? Last time I checked it was 190.
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T mobile offered you 325 for your note 3? Last time I checked it was 190.
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Yes I believe it is still there and also sprint offers the same you may match the trade in value with them.
kgbeezr1 said:
It's probably an unpopular opinion to have in this forum, but i'm a little disappointed I spent the money to upgrade. It's not to say the Note 4 isn't a great phone, out of anything out there right now it's an easy pick for me, but it is in no way a significant upgrade from the 3. There are some very slight improvements, the screen for one. The screen on the 3 was already stellar, so it's hard to achieve a major upgrade here. The camera gets slightly more detail, although the photos are noisier and have more sharpening added to them (possibly the reason for the added noise?). The battery life is worse, not by a significant amount, but it is still worse for me. I notice no speed difference at all, if one exists it's too slight for my level of perception. The speaker is worse, maybe not in quality, but in placement. The build is nicer, definitely feels higher quality, but this is perception too, the Note 3 was already proven to be quite tough. I keep my phone in a case, so that's ultimately not much of a benefit to me either. The fingerprint scanner I don't use, tried it and it often required multiple swipes, seems easier to just enter a code. The new white/cyan color scheme is atrocious, and I don't know what the hell they were thinking doing this on a phone with an AMOLED screen. Black backgrounds make MUCH more sense, not just to take advantage of high AMOLED contrast, but to conserve battery power also.
All in all, I regret spending $400 to upgrade, but the Note 4 is still an awesome phone. If I had been upgrading from an S4 or a Note 2, something along those lines, I think I would have a lot less regret about the money spent. Ultimately it depends on how much you want the slight improvements.
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Thanks for taking time to explain it. I do feel same but I also think by upgrading we will have a newer device and also the warranty is now extended to one more year. Look at this this way say if we were to sell our note 3 end of 2015 we would hardly get anything out of it but by selling note 4 at least we get 300 so our upgrade might be only 25..... That is where I have the whole confusion.
My Note 3 battery barely makes it to the end of the day. I am not rooted and don't want to as I use a lot of soft card for cash back. I definitely don't want to loose that.
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Yes I believe it is still there and also sprint offers the same you may match the trade in value with them.
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Oh right this must be for folks that are not existing t mobile customers .
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Oh right this must be for folks that are not existing t mobile customers .
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Nope I am an existing customer. Did you check online.. What device do you have.
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Nope I am an existing customer. Did you check online.. What device do you have.
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I had checked. I upgraded from a note 3 to a note 4 a few weeks back actually. That's why I sold mine on craigs list for funnily enough $325 as T Mobile were offering peanuts.
By the way well worth the upgrade. Think of it a refinement at its best.
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I had checked. I upgraded from a note 3 to a note 4 a few weeks back actually. That's why I sold mine on craigs list for funnily enough $325 as T Mobile were offering peanuts.
By the way well worth the upgrade. Think of it a refinement at its best.
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How much did you pay and how many days has it been.
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How much did you pay and how many days has it been.
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11/13 I beleive it was bought usual price whatever it was. I think 750 plus tax.
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T mobile offered you 325 for your note 3? Last time I checked it was 190.
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Yeah my friend just got a good deal I think is was a little bit less but I guessing phone still sells
BAD ASS NOTE 4
steve_togo said:
Thanks for taking time to explain it. I do feel same but I also think by upgrading we will have a newer device and also the warranty is now extended to one more year. Look at this this way say if we were to sell our note 3 end of 2015 we would hardly get anything out of it but by selling note 4 at least we get 300 so our upgrade might be only 25..... That is where I have the whole confusion.
My Note 3 battery barely makes it to the end of the day. I am not rooted and don't want to as I use a lot of soft card for cash back. I definitely don't want to loose that.
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Good points, resale and warranty are valid reasons to trade up. My comments really focused on the complaints that I have with the phone as most other people have covered the high points, and of course there are many. It's subjective, obviously, but I don't think anything else out there at the moment surpasses it as a complete package.
I never owned a note 3 before. But I do own a 2012 Note 10.1 which I love very much. This Note 4 is even faster than my tablet and it really is impressive with everything I can do with it.
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I've made my decision....

I have both the G4 and the S6, as you may or may not know the S6 is unlockable and has had root for a while now. Despite that, I have decided to keep my G4, the potential locked in this phone is way too much to give up on. Odd thing is, the G4
doesnt seem to have had its radios tweaked or optimized, the S6 is a touch faster both on WiFi and LTE. The downside is
the bloat ball called touchwiz. It's choppy and eats a TON of ram. UX 4.0 is far and away better. As far as the cameras go, the
camera on the G4 is faster at getting locked in on what i'm shooting, but when zoomed in, the picture almost looks like an
oil painting. Once we do eventually get the G4 unlocked, I hope we get a camera mod much like the one I had for the G3.
I'm also looking forward to viper4android, that's definitely a must have for Google music imo. Anyway, hopefully we'll get
our beasts unlocked soon.
I agree totally. I had the s6 for a while. It has some awesome features and the camera is great, but it always was buggy and the ram issue was horrible. The G4 may not be perfect but I am enjoying it a lot more than my s6.
painedglass said:
I have both the G4 and the S6, as you may or may not know the S6 is unlockable and has had root for a while now. Despite that, I have decided to keep my G4, the potential locked in this phone is way too much to give up on. Odd thing is, the G4
doesnt seem to have had its radios tweaked or optimized, the S6 is a touch faster both on WiFi and LTE. The downside is
the bloat ball called touchwiz. It's choppy and eats a TON of ram. UX 4.0 is far and away better. As far as the cameras go, the
camera on the G4 is faster at getting locked in on what i'm shooting, but when zoomed in, the picture almost looks like an
oil painting. Once we do eventually get the G4 unlocked, I hope we get a camera mod much like the one I had for the G3.
I'm also looking forward to viper4android, that's definitely a must have for Google music imo. Anyway, hopefully we'll get
our beasts unlocked soon.
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I concur with both of you. I had the S6 Edge and sold it for the G4. I'm just surprised we not only don't have root yet, but that there hasn't really been any direct talk of if anyone is close. That is a big concern to me. From my experience, there are usually folks chatting about their progress (or lack thereof). Anyway, love the device so far....
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I concur with both of you. I had the S6 Edge and sold it for the G4. I'm just surprised we not only don't have root yet, but that there hasn't really been any direct talk of if anyone is close. That is a big concern to me. From my experience, there are usually folks chatting about their progress (or lack thereof). Anyway, love the device so far....
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i agree too on going with the G4, i sold my nexus 5 and got the G4 before i even checked in here to see if it was rootable/unlockable yet
and the reason no one is talking about it is that so many people come in here complaining about no root or not being able to unlock their phone yet, but it is being worked on and in fact the devs doing it have unlocked carrier phones (from what i have seen), they are just working on a way to make it easy for the general public to do it and to make sure there is a way back or at least a way to not brick your phone. plus LG is on here too so there isnt much chatter here so that LG doesnt patch what they are working on before they can even get it out to us
it will come i am sure of it
Me too, i find this to be this first device i could use without root, i would still rather have it than not, but i could own this phone long term without it. Glad to see a positive note and people having the same experience i am with the phone. I also was a former S6 owner, my wife has it now so i can really check them out side by side and its no contest, and thats with my wife on a custom rom.
I was thinking how far phones have come since I got my first Android phone back in 2012 (Mytouch 4G Slide) Some great ROMS on that old thing. I moved on up to a Nexus 4 from that. The so called professional review sites claim that the differences between the S6 and G4 cameras are so small that it's hard to pick a clear cut winner, but I tell you, the only flaw in the G4's camera is the over sharpening. The S6's camera software kinda sucks, the viewfinder looks grainy and the pictures aren't any better. The ram issue sealed it for me, the darn thing has 3gb of ram available, how does T/W use that much?
Wow, so sad to see no progress on root and twrp. I bought this device thinking I was getting the "full" flagship experience.
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Wow, so sad to see no progress on root and twrp. I bought this device thinking I was getting the "full" flagship experience.
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Me tooooooooo. Im for one thought this will be where i will end up building some roms and custom kernels but man im so frustrated it with this phone is not even funny.
My flashaholic coaster is over. Is so sad.....
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Wow, so sad to see no progress on root and twrp. I bought this device thinking I was getting the "full" flagship experience.
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define full flagship experience?
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and just because no one is posting about it doesnt mean no one is working on it. give it time, dang, the phones only been out for 2 and a half months. thats the problem with xda these days, we are so hellbent on having root and being unlocked so we can void our warranty and flash firmware to our expensive devices for what? so we can say "hey look i unlocked my phone and flashed CM on it, take that LG, now my phone is not near as good as it was when i bought it"
LMAO
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define full flagship experience?
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and just because no one is posting about it doesnt mean no one is working on it. give it time, dang, the phones only been out for 2 and a half months. thats the problem with xda these days, we are so hellbent on having root and being unlocked so we can void our warranty and flash firmware to our expensive devices for what? so we can say "hey look i unlocked my phone and flashed CM on it, take that LG, now my phone is not near as good as it was when i bought it"
LMAO
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It was a figure of speech. Lol. In reality, I'm good without root for a while.
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I just want ad blocking... Custom ROM's aren't my thing anymore.
Love the phone but the jank is really starting to get to me. Picked up my N5 today and was shocked at how much smoother it was than my G4
Hi all, jumped the Sammy ship after some 3.5 years using Galaxy devices (latest was a S4). It's actually the first time I get a flagship almost when it's been released, and so far this phone seems like a great device. I'm not looking for custom ROMs yet, root would be nice, but as it stands it's an awesome Android flagship.
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Love the phone but the jank is really starting to get to me. Picked up my N5 today and was shocked at how much smoother it was than my G4
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Glad to see some people are not afraid to state the truth. I have a g4 s6 nexus 5 and oneplus one now and the g4 is the slowest. Just sits on my desk. Is funny how oneplus one and nexus 5 feel way faster than the s6 and g4.
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Biggest issue I'm having is with WiFi. I'm not sure if it just slows itself down or becomes unresponsive but there's something that's making my internet hang.
I had the same issue. I installed DNSet and my WiFi started working better
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Glad to see some people are not afraid to state the truth. I have a g4 s6 nexus 5 and oneplus one now and the g4 is the slowest. Just sits on my desk. Is funny how oneplus one and nexus 5 feel way faster than the s6 and g4.
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Same here. My One Plus is smoother and faster . Rooted Zmax is faster . Love the form factor of the G4 ,but text and mms issues are starting to annoy me to no end....
Because the N5 use stock android, the biggest advantage of the G4 is much longer battery life. For me it's matter because the battery on Nexus is non-swapable and battery life is not good.
ambervals6 said:
Glad to see some people are not afraid to state the truth. I have a g4 s6 nexus 5 and oneplus one now and the g4 is the slowest. Just sits on my desk. Is funny how oneplus one and nexus 5 feel way faster than the s6 and g4.
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Left the note 4 because of the crap camera taking forever to focus and the gps that never could find a signal. At first i thought i made a mistake because of the lag i was getting before updating to the new N update and i am not looking back. The g4, at its 479 price point is a monster
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Left the note 4 because of the crap camera taking forever to focus and the gps that never could find a signal. At first i thought i made a mistake because of the lag i was getting before updating to the new N update and i am not looking back. The g4, at its 479 price point is a monster
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So you do have camera focusing problem with note 4..I thought it was just me..

Note 5, flip it or love it?

Hey XDA
Brief background, want to make this small post here.
Had the S4 for a year, actually enjoyed it for what it was worth, wanted out as soon as we knew for sure there was no root. Stock Touchwiz was just terrible on the 4.
I've never had the chance to own a Nexus device before, my carrier upgrades always came just before the Nexus devices were released, and I've been so ready to upgrade when it comes I jump on it.
This time around I stuck with my G3 for a while. I love this phone. I'm ready for new, and the phones coming out this year are not quite "notable"
I really have my eyes on the Nexus 6P - but US carriers not selling it means I have a decision to make. Got my dad the Note 4 earlier this year, he likes it. I like it the little bit I've played with it. I feel I could even use the Note 5 to replace my notebook in class for notes. ATT bootloader seems to be like the S4. Not much will come of bootloader unlocks with this phone.. It appears.
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So I will upgrade through ATT, probably to the Note 5. Question is - stay with the Note 5 and learn to love it, despite the experiences I've had with Samsung, or flip it unopened on CL and order up the N6P....??
I really do not want a subpar camera to the G3, nor do I want a dull screen. Both devices seem on par, both no SD, battery not removable on the Note... Cameras both good..
Anyone here want the Nexus 6P?! Willing to get rid of your Note 5 for it?
The 6P looks sweet (literally and figuratively) but I'll never buy a smartphone with the Snapdragon 810. I already have a stove.
If i had a real need for a second phone, Nexus 6P will be my choice
I like Note5 as my main phone, S pen is really helpful, and makes you smart ?
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I see. Can anyone here tell me if it's valid to think you could completely replace a notebook and take notes in an 8 hour class day with the n5?
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KarimSalloum said:
The 6P looks sweet (literally and figuratively) but I'll never buy a smartphone with the Snapdragon 810. I already have a stove.
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The phone hasn't even come out yet, wait until someone can review it. There are phones with the chip that heat up a lot, and some that don't heat at all.
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I've had the Note 5 for a few weeks now, it is an excellent all-around Android phone.
I think the Nexus 6p looks great too, has pros and cons like any phone.
I think the Note 5 is the better all-around device and is the premier flagship Android phone of 2015.
I don't think you could sit and take notes for 8 hours on this phone. Lol. Maybe you could, maybe not. I would never want to do that.
The Nexus 6p is using the SnapDragon 810 version 2.1 - heat issues have "supposedly" been resolved on that version.
Some things to consider with AT&T:
1) You can't root but you can use Samsung Pay
2) Resale value on AT&T branded Samsung phones (Android in general) are lower than other models like T-Mobile, due to the locked bootloader, they usually sell for less/resale for less.
So I don't think you want to take a risk and purchase the phone from them, only to sell it for less.
Worst come to worst, try it out, they should give you 14 days to try it and return it. Something like that.
HNIC215 said:
I've had the Note 5 for a few weeks now, it is an excellent all-around Android phone.
I think the Nexus 6p looks great too, has pros and cons like any phone.
I think the Note 5 is the better all-around device and is the premier flagship Android phone of 2015.
I don't think you could sit and take notes for 8 hours on this phone. Lol. Maybe you could, maybe not. I would never want to do that.
The Nexus 6p is using the SnapDragon 810 version 2.1 - heat issues have "supposedly" been resolved on that version.
Some things to consider with AT&T:
1) You can't root but you can use Samsung Pay
2) Resale value on AT&T branded Samsung phones (Android in general) are lower than other models like T-Mobile, due to the locked bootloader, they usually sell for less/resale for less.
So I don't think you want to take a risk and purchase the phone from them, only to sell it for less.
Worst come to worst, try it out, they should give you 14 days to try it and return it. Something like that.
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True and true. I may end up doing that. Will be end of this month or next, don't want to make a payment to pay off my G3, got 4 months left but they usually let you swap with 2 left.
I want to try the N5, the S6 edge has a brilliant screen but not for me.
I just really have my heart set on this N6P. If I don't like what I get with the Note5 I may return it for a iPhone6S and sell that on CL. Should get more $$$ for it. Overnight myself a N6P and I'll be good to go.
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It depends if you want stock Android or not. That's all it really comes down to cause the Note 5 has everything else the 6P has for the most part.
I personally can't stand stock Android, so I'm sticking with the Note 5. Stock Android is insanely boring and featureless compared to Touchwiz. And the Note 5 has the S-Pen.
WizeGuyDezignz said:
It depends if you want stock Android or not. That's all it really comes down to cause the Note 5 has everything else the 6P has for the most part.
I personally can't stand stock Android, so I'm sticking with the Note 5. Stock Android is insanely boring and featureless compared to Touchwiz. And the Note 5 has the S-Pen.
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Indeed. That's true. I love vanilla Android. I wish the OnePlus 2 was a bit better... I'd sweep that in a heartbeat.
Touchwiz in my experience has been very Ram consuming and slow with the amazing hardware Samsung has brought to the table. It ruins the phone in my opinion. If course, the Note typically has better optimized software and useful features.
I lean more and more to the n6p every time I look at it. But again, ATT doesn't sell. Going to really suck
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WizeGuyDezignz said:
It depends if you want stock Android or not. That's all it really comes down to cause the Note 5 has everything else the 6P has for the most part.
I personally can't stand stock Android, so I'm sticking with the Note 5. Stock Android is insanely boring and featureless compared to Touchwiz. And the Note 5 has the S-Pen.
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I agree, I think somewhere along the line, maybe around lollipop, I started to enjoy the touchwiz version more because of all the useful features built in to the OS.
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CoNsPiRiSiZe said:
That's true. I love vanilla Android. I wish the OnePlus 2 was a bit better...
Touchwiz in my experience has been very Ram consuming and slow with the amazing hardware Samsung has brought to the table. It ruins the phone in my opinion.
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I've had the Note 3, 4 and now 5. In my opinion, each iteration is slowly getting refined to be a better version compared to the last. If they keep this up, all the old stereotypes about touchwiz will eventually be obsolete.
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I've had the Note 3, 4 and now 5. In my opinion, each iteration is slowly getting refined to be a better version compared to the last. If they keep this up, all the old stereotypes about touchwiz will eventually be obsolete.
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Old stereotypes are still there... yeah there's less bloatware but have you seen the RAM management on the Note5? Shameful.
Now that the V10 is out I would also consider that as an option. It looks fantastic.
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Now that the V10 is out I would also consider that as an option. It looks fantastic.
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What V10?
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What V10?
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LG.
KarimSalloum said:
Old stereotypes are still there... yeah there's less bloatware but have you seen the RAM management on the Note5? Shameful.
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I think RAM management can easily be fixed with a software update.
The Note 5 - even with this "RAM management" issue - is still the fastest, smoothest Note I've used. Hands down!
Software was never a strong suite for Samsung, however, they are learning. Fast enough for some people, slow for others.
It should only get better...
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LG.
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Saw it... Not interested in the front screen thing, seems a bit gimicky...
But... Could be neat. I don't think I will wait that long until I upgrade.
HNIC215 said:
I think RAM management can easily be fixed with a software update.
The Note 5 - even with this "RAM management" issue - is still the fastest, smoothest Note I've used. Hands down!
Software was never a strong suite for Samsung, however, they are learning. Fast enough for some people, slow for others.
It should only get better...
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Yeah, yet the track record shows Samsung will not upgrade the software's RAM consumption near as much as they could. They just don't have our interests at heart, rather the general public. After all we are a minority on XDA.
May settle for the Note5, will have to find time to go play with one in the store soon..
Otherwise I'll flip an iPhone 6S for the N6P... Ugh.
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I see. Can anyone here tell me if it's valid to think you could completely replace a notebook and take notes in an 8 hour class day with the n5?
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I say no. It may just be my writing, but I can only fit maybe 4-5 legible words across the screen in portrait mode, which makes for a lot of +New notes, or one lonnnnnnng one.
I've had my fun with it, but I am realizing it's just not convenient to try and pack a tablet into a phone, and use a phablet as a phone. I am now leaning more towards having a tablet for actual writing on, and a phone I can use easily in one hand for texting/emailing/calling.

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