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Well I believe that we all want to free our Bionics from moto's lockdown. The knowledge and talent to bypass the bootloader is here and now. There are many that have signed petitions, started threads, and took there voice to the top of Verizon and motorola. Hopefully we can keep all that enthusiasm, and focus that energy to Kholk with Eternityproject. So why no love for the Bionic, the "red headed step child"? Why does the Razr already have a bootloader bypass?
I just talked to Kholk.....The issue is that these talented individuals behind developing the bypass for other moto phones simply don't have a Bionic to develop it on which makes things very difficult. So the question is....what can we do about it? How bad do you want this? If you have a Bionic to spare or some extra$ send me a PM for a direct link. You can also go to Eternityprojects website and give there. Just make sure you state that it's for the Bionic. I hope the moderators of this forum can understand the importance of this developement and NOT kill this thread. This is a great leap in development.

Here's the donate page for EternityProject:
http://www.eternityproject.eu/donate

As much as I wish this was true look at the past. There are far and few who have been with and only with Motorola for a reason, and ashamed I am one. Other than the device that was no longer supported by Motorola there is only one that got lucky due to an internal source. If any one truly wants to donate money it might as well be in another manufacturer. I'm not hating on any external developers I'm just saying we all should learn the lesson that rings true. Motorola wants us all to blame the service provider but the truth is they just don't have the balls to stand up to them like other manufacturers do (Samsung). We all paid and own this device yet we are still told what we can and cannot do with it. To me this sounds like a lawsuit and yes we have heard arguing view points from both sides for for years now need not it be now. Long story short, you have lost one more customer Motorola....
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I think we should just look into the future of the moto bypass.
This isn't about moto...it's about us!

[mbm] started the work on the kexec bypass on the Bionic and gave his code base to kholk, who then adapted it for his GSM RAZR with success. He then sent that back to [mbm] to try to make it work on the CDMA/LTE Razr. That has not worked unfortunately and they are both still working on it. It does not work as is on the D4 or Bionic either.
My point is that this exploit originated on the Bionic as an extent ion of the Milestone kexec project and the principal dev who did it already has the device. I am not against donating to devs for devices but I also don't think throwing money at a problem is always the best route to a solution either.
Just an FYI about some of the history here.

Maybe Motorola will wake up due to their slumping sales. I still prefer Motorola to Samsung though. But I will seriously look into going back to HTC this winter.
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Moto X by Ashton Kutcher?

So Ashton Kutcher will be working with Lenovo designing devices. What do you guys think, would you get a moto x "two and a half men edition" ?
http://mobile.theverge.com/2014/2/2...s-designed-by-ashton-kutcher-coming-this-year
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Anything Ashton Kutcher gets involved with seems to succeed, I think it's a good thing.
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Glad I got my X before he became associated with it. I really can't stand him.

I'd rather see Frank Sinatra's bloated corpse
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I saw that article too, at least Lenovo is putting some marketing $$$ into their upcoming phones. The MotoX never really got out there as the premium device it is. I only know two others with the X and both bought because I recommended. Never see anyone with an X when I'm out and about.

Ashton Kutcher is only going to be "working" on Lenovo phones. Moto is going to remain independent and work on their own Droid and X lines. The only influence Lenovo is going to have on Moto is international relations and production capacity. Expect what we've seen from Moto for the past 8 months to continue.

Lenovo can do whatever it wants, so long as they let Motorola operate on their own and simply invest in their potential. The Moto X is proof that good ideas still exist. Moto X with Utter! Tasker and the Xposed Modules is what the Moto X should've been and if Lenovo can tap into this potential: they'll have a real game-changer.

I've seen that on techradar, I found out Kutcher used to be an engineer before he modeled and I my mind was blown! funny things you find out on the web

Thread Closed
Ok, seen enough.
Folks, OT Posts should go in the XDA Off Topic Forums. Sorry, but this thread serves absolutely no purpose but to invite trolling, which it seems it already has.
Thank You and thread closed.
MD

Physical Keyboard Mod For Moto Z

Not strictly Motorola Droid 4 related, but for those of us in this section of the forums, I would imagine there is some level of interest in a phone made within the last 4 years that has a physical keyboard.
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/physical-keyboard-mod-for-moto-z#/
This campaign is a "fixed goal," which means that they will only receive the funds if they reach their $100,000 goal.
As skeptical as I am, I've put in on this. I'll gladly pay $60 for hope.
It should also be noted that they also stated on Reddit that they are probably not going to be able to have a secondary battery component as part of the keyboard.

joefuf said:
Not strictly Motorola Droid 4 related, but for those of us in this section of the forums, I would imagine there is some level of interest in a phone made within the last 4 years that has a physical keyboard.
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/physical-keyboard-mod-for-moto-z#/
This campaign is a "fixed goal," which means that they will only receive the funds if they reach their $100,000 goal.
As skeptical as I am, I've put in on this. I'll gladly pay $60 for hope.
It should also be noted that they also stated on Reddit that they are probably not going to be able to have a secondary battery component as part of the keyboard.
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I saw that, thanks for spreading the word. What's the scene for the Moto Z look like? Not going to consider jumping ship unless I can root and install Xposed.

hockeymikey said:
I saw that, thanks for spreading the word. What's the scene for the Moto Z look like? Not going to consider jumping ship unless I can root and install Xposed.
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Looks as though there is an active development community.

When upgrading from Sony Xperia Pro, the bigger and heavier Droid 4 felt like a brick in my hands, but I got used to it.
Moto Z+Slider - I'm tempted because it features a real wire connection instead of bluetooth+additional battery, but unsure if it's size will still feel comfortable in my pocket...
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=3779&idPhone2=4418&idPhone3=8094

Does anyone know how to contact the people who started the Indiegogo campaign for the physical Moto Z keyboardc These modern websites are too confusing for someone like me. I can't even figure out how to contact them. Or should I say that I tried and got no reply. I could REALLY use a physical keyboard on my next phone.

An update on this. The campaign finished successfully and they went to production with two different keyboards, one with no battery and one with an additional battery. But that's where it turns ugly, showing all the hallmarks of a major product-development fustercluck. First, a problem was uncovered that the keyboard isn't recognized by the Z without a major firmware update. Then, a large chunk of the team at Motorola in Chicago that developed the Moto Z phones and does software and hardware interfaces were laid off. And now, the update they pushed out via OTA from Moto has been problematic. Thanks to broader financial problems at Lenovo, the entire future of the Mods ecosystem is in doubt.
I have not received a reply to my request to purchase one of these post-campaign. All production has been placed on hold pending resolution of the software update.
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Oh, and there's also this:
Liangchen Chen - Campaigner - 9 days ago
When we solve the OTA issue of K1L and resume shipping, I will open for pre-order. I want to get everything 100% confirmed before taking more orders, and avoid future delays.
As for support with 3rd-party OSes, there's this:
Sean McCreary - 5 days ago @liangchen Chen Yes, I maintain the addison build for LineageOS, and we have been working on the requirements for Mod support for over a year. Unfortunately Motorola’s closed source approach makes it unlikely full Mod support will ever be possible in builds distributed by us, but I am hopeful we can add support for the keyboard Mod.

Phew.... so I'm lucky having acquired a new Blackberry Priv a couple of months ago - for the same price as the sole slider mod. It doesn't get any updates anymore but at least it is running stable... Smartphone mods are a niche market. Just as phones with hardware keyboards

Device being capable of latest update but Motorola forgot it's best flagship ever

Dear Motorola,
Being you die hard fan, I would like to remind you that your device named moto x first generation, the only device you developed using your own computing system ie x8 computing system is probably the most durable flagship yet but you people forgot to provide update to his device (xt1052). I request all the users of this forum to provide their valuable feedback on this topic( not as to gain publicity) but because I want feedback from around the globe.
Thank you:good:
:good:

Ahahah normal support is 2 years, our device is 4 year old you waste your words and times as Moto X fan and user

Ask Moto to help the keyboard mod, possibly the last chance for indie mods to produce

Moto ran the Transform the Smartphone Challenge on Indiegogo more than a year ago. 50 mods entered, only 2 or 3 ever got anywhere near a product. Moto wierdly chose 2 'winners' from the contest to receive financial and other support which were never heard from again, leaving the keyboard mod that had demonstrated demand and ability to produce on its own, scrounging for support wherever they could. Perhaps moto thought livermorium had proven they didn't need help, but moto should have known better, manufacturing is hard and tiny organizations with no cash reserves could always use support.
With the drop out of edge some months ago, only the keyboard mod remains within spitting distance of shipping. They actually did begin manufacturing and shipping units, but had to start over and recall them thanks to Motorola's issues with oreo OTAs. Now after all the delays, with some caused by moto, perhaps including their recent executive shakeups, Livermorium (the company making the keyboard mod) is struggling. I'm confident they'll pull through because they've got serious will to survive, but they shouldn't be left twisting in the wind alone. Moto needs to step and prove that an indie mod is possible, even as a slate of new mods gets listed on Indiegogo that few are willing to take seriously because of last year. Moto started this, they asked 3rd parties to invest in the ecosystem, they promised support, they made users believe their own pledges mattered and encouraged us to put up out money to help the ecosystem. They have the resources, and they need help livermorium over the finish line.
We have limited means to contact, and this is a long shot, but it's the best I've got. If Moto is worth its salt, they'll have a director of social media capable of elevating a popular request to more important eyes, but to reach even that person, we need to amplify the request. The tweet below doesn't need to be the only means of reaching out, but it has started to get some traction and a few seconds retweeting or liking it may be the best bang for the buck in reaching them. Please reach out to moto anyway you please, whether you are pro-keyboard or not, because if this mod fails, the best run, closest, most in demand of the indies (it raised more funds than all the other Transform challenge mods combined), why would anyone actually put money down on another crowdfunded mod?
I think we all know that the Moto Z line itself is resting on the edge of a bubble. It might last or it might not. All that will depend on the health of its mod ecosystem. Moto mods are the most interesting thing to hit smartphones in ages, I'd hate to see this disappear. Not just this one indie mod, but others that could follow it if it can prove that indie mods can be trusted would contribute greatly to saving the Moto Z line.
TL;DR: Your likes, retweets and replies will help elevate this request and make it more likely that Motorola will see and care about making indie mods credible for users to back and enriching motomods ecosphere at large: https://twitter.com/fortunzfavor/status/986714582659018754 If you prefer to send your own tweet, please post it and I will happily retweet and like to help elevate polite, on point requests.

While lenovo ( moto ) does have some blame in this situation , i think it's fair to also state that livermorium at least "overshot" things a bit here..
Backers have been promised at least a couple of things and the product has gone thru a ton of re-thinks and rebuilds.
Time and time again the backers had to accept that there was another change and another 'update' made to the product...
Livermorium was more then happy to go to CES and make quite a splash about the keyboard , even go as far as hinting to a retail release of the product.
While it is a logical move to take a piss on lenovo , we have to consider that a lot of the issues could have been prevented if the seemingly endless list of changes
and updates was cut out to get the product to the backers at least.
Livermorium is a little bit too eager to 'whine' about the fact that they are out of funds and that a lot of 'new problems' have come up out of nowhere.
I backed the product and i have been very patient but with a long list of shifted deadlines i must be honest and state that i have lost allmost all hope
in this project.
Lets all hope that this idea finally comes to a product very soon , the wait has been too long...

I was unaware of the issues with the mod, but I was looking forward for it as well. I'm a serious typer and I still use the T9 compact because I think it's faster and could think of a couple of situations where the mod would be dope
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