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I'm playing with my new Xperia T since 4 days and I noticed right away that it's got one of the worst WiFi reception quality of any phone I've ever owned.
Either that or there are problems with WiFi signals from 802.11n routers.
Result is, it struggles to keep connected to my network, and I have to hold the phone in an awkward way, while previously I didn't care about that.
Anyone with the same issue?
No sorry, in my case I it has one of the best reception I've ever had on a phone.
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I don't have problems keeping the connection up, but it is indeed lacking in wifi sensibility.
Performing a scan, my old HTC Desire shows more wifi access points, and with better signal, than this phone.
I have no problems connecting, but signal seems quite weak. With my old x10 I could retain connection in my back garden, but with T it won't go past the back door!!
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I measured the signal intensity with the network monitor app and the levels seem quite similar to other phones (i was testing with a galaxy note), but the Xperia gives out much earlier at -85 dbm, the Samsung phone holds on instead at the same level.
Maybe it's software related?
Short version:
Before you bought the Xperia SP, which other mobiles were you taking into consideration and what made you choose (or not) the SP?
Long version:
Here's the thing: today I was ready - I finally went to a shop and proudly said "I want to buy the Xperia SP". Unfortunately they only had the white version so I'll have to wait one more week. This was quite disappointing because I really, really wanted it so badly and since I now have another week to decide maybe there are other/better alternatives among midrange smartphones?
Thanks!
Tons of others phones.
Optimus G, but no card slot. Nexus 4, same problem.
Galaxy S4, unfortunately far too expensive.
MI2-A, no SD slot, again.
Motorola Razr HD, CPU sucks. Same with the HTC One X+.
HTC One? No way to get a 64gb here in ****ty Europe.
So, well, the SP is the only 720p phone with a microSD slot, and a good built quality that I can afford.
Only big problem: devs support. We have DoomLord, but no one else. I'm afraid we will never get CyanogenMod.
Some time ago I've spoken with fxp. They said they need to buy phone to start development.
This device is fresh so don't expect development will start from day of release.
BTW. XSP is middle range device... This is next reason to start development later then e.g. XZ relatively.
I was considering buy N4 or XSP or wait for some time and collect more money and buy SGN2 or XZ.
C5303 is great device, powerfull, supported LTE, nice looking, with 'big' screen, made from good quality materials, with usefull transparent iluminated bar, with good quality camera and other hardware and released with 4.1.2 (Google said that phones need to be upgraded for 18 mounths from release so we can expect something above then 4.2.2 with this specs).
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Fealakwen said:
Tons of others phones.
Optimus G, but no card slot. Nexus 4, same problem.
Galaxy S4, unfortunately far too expensive.
MI2-A, no SD slot, again.
Motorola Razr HD, CPU sucks. Same with the HTC One X+.
HTC One? No way to get a 64gb here in ****ty Europe.
So, well, the SP is the only 720p phone with a microSD slot, and a good built quality that I can afford.
Only big problem: devs support. We have DoomLord, but no one else. I'm afraid we will never get CyanogenMod.
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reaper61616 said:
Some time ago I've spoken with fxp. They said they need to buy phone to start development.
This device is fresh so don't expect development will start from day of release.
BTW. XSP is middle range device... This is next reason to start development later then e.g. XZ relatively.
I was considering buy N4 or XSP or wait for some time and collect more money and buy SGN2 or XZ.
C5303 is great device, powerfull, supported LTE, nice looking, with 'big' screen, made from good quality materials, with usefull transparent iluminated bar, with good quality camera and other hardware and released with 4.1.2 (Google said that phones need to be upgraded for 18 mounths from release so we can expect something above then 4.2.2 with this specs).
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Well I am thinking of getting this one. And I see no existing PA or CM support. But I used to compile my own ROMs for my Nexus (which is dead and the reason why I am getting this one) so I think I can compile for this ROM too, the only difficulty being the illumination bar API, on which I have never wrked till date.
Plus its a relatively new phone, so we will see more action once other devs buy the device too!
Cheers mates!
charliebigpot said:
Short version:
Before you bought the Xperia SP, which other mobiles were you taking into consideration and what made you choose (or not) the SP?
Long version:
Here's the thing: today I was ready - I finally went to a shop and proudly said "I want to buy the Xperia SP". Unfortunately they only had the white version so I'll have to wait one more week. This was quite disappointing because I really, really wanted it so badly and since I now have another week to decide maybe there are other/better alternatives among midrange smartphones?
Thanks!
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Are you really going to recant about buying an XPERIA™ SP just for waiting a week to get the color you want? Really? I must wait another half year to get mine and it isn't available here in Mexico still. I don't want to be mean but don't be like that. I'd wish to have your luck, about being in your situation.
There aren't better options for a midrange smartphone with the potential of this XSP, really, it'll be very worthy to wait for it.
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Well I am thinking of getting this one. And I see no existing PA or CM support. But I used to compile my own ROMs for my Nexus (which is dead and the reason why I am getting this one) so I think I can compile for this ROM too, the only difficulty being the illumination bar API, on which I have never wrked till date.
Plus its a relatively new phone, so we will see more action once other devs buy the device too!
Cheers mates!
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... But there is no need to implement illumination api in apps/system in begin stage. First we need fully working cm then we can think about transparent bar and it's lights Think this is not so hard to implement it. Sony release api and documentation also great will be see floating touch working like in stock rom (gloves mode).
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As of now, Best mid range phone is still SP. S3 is a bit more expensive, but SP is better than it (except for camera and if you like amoled). If you want you can wait for HTC one mini, although its only 4.3 inches and price is not yet revealed.
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cidane said:
As of now, Best mid range phone is still SP. S3 is a bit more expensive, but SP is better than it (except for camera and if you like amoled). If you want you can wait for HTC one mini, although its only 4.3 inches and price is not yet revealed.
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I believe the HTC to be far more expensive, without any expansion port, and with a huge bezel.
S3 is a good choice, yea. But the S4 mini is a complete joke. No HD, and the worst pricing ever.
Maybe, for someone that is not in a hurry, waiting for the X Phone could be a good idea. But for now, SP (and S3) rules.
Hmmm, I 1st look at N4, but it cost as much as a XZL, not worth it I guess, but getting either one will blow my budget. so I then get an XV, after three weeks a member of my local Facebook group is interested to swap his SP with My V.. He is a mobile seller who get the SP for free, but he need a waterproof phone as he ride a bike. So that how I get the SP.
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well, today I bought the SP - I like it a lot, the only downsides are:
- WIFI signal
- Camera is quite weak
- can't connect it to my Mac?! the option to access the storage in order to transfer files isn't there.. (tg there's airdroid)
I'll try it over the weekend but if the wifi is still an issue (intermittent signal 5m from the router with no walls in between!) I'll give it back and will look for an alternative.. we'll see
charliebigpot said:
well, today I bought the SP - I like it a lot, the only downsides are:
- WIFI signal
- Camera is quite weak
- can't connect it to my Mac?! the option to access the storage in order to transfer files isn't there.. (tg there's airdroid)
I'll try it over the weekend but if the wifi is still an issue (intermittent signal 5m from the router with no walls in between!) I'll give it back and will look for an alternative.. we'll see
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... Wait for update.
Battery: ok, I installed plenty of apps and had exactly 70% left. Oddly enough this morning I had 71% left so there's a calibration issue. Now after 5 hours of occasional 3g, 20 min of offline music and some messaging it's at 29%.
Photos : not impressed
Wifi and 3g: connectivity is very poor.. my old Desire was a lot better and reliable
Screen: it's on auto brightness and honestly note while typing this message the luminosity changed about 10 times, pretty annoying.
Audio: excellent!
Overheating: no
(While writing this message the battery dropped to 26%)
I am seriously considering to give it back, I like the phone but the connectivity issue seems to be h hardware related.. I'm a moment of madness I even thought about buying an iPhone5 instead..
charliebigpot said:
Battery: ok, I installed plenty of apps and had exactly 70% left. Oddly enough this morning I had 71% left so there's a calibration issue. Now after 5 hours of occasional 3g, 20 min of offline music and some messaging it's at 29%.
Photos : not impressed
Wifi and 3g: connectivity is very poor.. my old Desire was a lot better and reliable
Screen: it's on auto brightness and honestly note while typing this message the luminosity changed about 10 times, pretty annoying.
Audio: excellent!
Overheating: no
(While writing this message the battery dropped to 26%)
I am seriously considering to give it back, I like the phone but the connectivity issue seems to be h hardware related.. I'm a moment of madness I even thought about buying an iPhone5 instead..
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About battery... Battery live is good - 2+ days standard usage: sms, calling, 3g always on, about 50 minutes wifi activity, stamina on, some photos and movies.
And when I got my phone first 2 days was waring... Battery was very week. I have charged my phone about 3-4 times. And on third day battery is ok strange but I'm happy it now working correctly.
Mobile signal is ok. Like in my previous Xperia S.
Wifi is week - waiting for SW update.
Autobrightness must be improved, this is not working properly.
Camera is not so good, waiting for SW update.
Usefull transparent illumination bar. VERY VERY GOOD IDEA TO PLACE IT IN THIS PHONE!!!!
Umm. XPERIA ZR would be a perfect alternative
Phillip Wu said:
Umm. XPERIA ZR would be a perfect alternative
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Yep, indeed. Only that it's slightly bigger, heavier and more expensive. But apart from that it looks like the waterproof twin of the SP Actually, if the wifi problems still hold on I might go back to the store and try to get the ZR instead.
Well, today I gave my SP back and fetched a S4 Mini instead.
I'm not saying all SPs have the same issues as mine had, but the ones that I had (below) were pretty severe and after talking twice to the Xperia customer service and 2 factory resets they were like "just return it". I guess I was unlucky but here's what went wrong and what I really liked:
What I liked:
- Battery: after 2 full days I still had 12% left
- Screen: it's simply wonderful
- Call quality: The sound was really really good
What went wrong:
- WiFI was just horrible as I often lost signal even with the router being 3 meters away. I tried changing the router's channel/frequency but that didn't help, even my old HTC Desire has much better WiFI signal.
- Multitasking: Couldn't use 3g with Chrome (2-3 tabs open) and listen to Google Music (playing music from the SD card) at the same time as it always closed Google Music. I guess I should have seen that one coming with 1gb RAM only.
- Call issues: today all of a sudden I could only hear the other person speaking when using headphones or by activating the speaker
Hello!tomorrow is my mom birthday so I want to give her a present.I think xperia sp is the best phone that suit her the most but I search on Google I see that xperia sp have a display and touch screen problem.So what xperia sp user should I buy it or not. ....my mom only use it for call message facebook map. ...no need to root or anything.Please reply it fast I only got 10 hour left.sorry for my bad English
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One-week Review
I myself bought this phone a week back, and I must say, I am happy with the phone.
Fortunately, I didn't have the touch problem in my device. When connected to USB though,
the voltage levels are screwed somehow and the touch behaves abnormally. But still,
files can be transferred with ease. The processor is kick-ass! And also the notification LED!
The battery drain is there, which stems from the various junk-ware installed, but mainly due to
Media Storage and the Google Location Sync. Camera is pretty good for me. However, one downside
I found is the Wi-Fi reception. Sucks big-time! Keeps dropping signals frequently, however does not
affect speed when connected.
Taking both downsides and advantages of this phone, I am in love with my device! Rest is up to you
to decide whether the downsides are grave enough for you to change your choice to another model!
All the best! :good:
Shuvodip said:
I myself bought this phone a week back, and I must say, I am happy with the phone.
Fortunately, I didn't have the touch problem in my device. When connected to USB though,
the voltage levels are screwed somehow and the touch behaves abnormally. But still,
files can be transferred with ease. The processor is kick-ass! And also the notification LED!
The battery drain is there, which stems from the various junk-ware installed, but mainly due to
Media Storage and the Google Location Sync. Camera is pretty good for me. However, one downside
I found is the Wi-Fi reception. Sucks big-time! Keeps dropping signals frequently, however does not
affect speed when connected.
Taking both downsides and advantages of this phone, I am in love with my device! Rest is up to you
to decide whether the downsides are grave enough for you to change your choice to another model!
All the best! :good:
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Thx for the reply bro but is the wifi suck like the ipad 2 cus I have ipad 2 Ios6.1 and the internet connection is very bad so I guess it ok if I have this problem cus my WiFi router is in my mom room
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Biggest negative point of Xperia SP is its camera. Daytime photography is ok but nighttime pictures are crap. As u mentioned that the wifi router is in your mom's room so the wifi signal strength would be fine. Few people have reported the touch problem but that is when the phone is connected to USB cable or wall charger. Other times the touch response is great. The display is sharp and colours are good, but it is a bit reflective. This issue is when outdoors, but one can always increase the screen brightness.
Best part is the performance for its cost & that LED notification bar, makes the phone look sexy.
So if camera is not the most important requirement, go for it bro.
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Biggest negative point of Xperia SP is its camera. Daytime photography is ok but nighttime pictures are crap. As u mentioned that the wifi router is in your mom's room so the wifi signal strength would be fine. Few people have reported the touch problem but that is when the phone is connected to USB cable or wall charger. Other times the touch response is great. The display is sharp and colours are good, but it is a bit reflective. This issue is when outdoors, but one can always increase the screen brightness.
Best part is the performance for its cost & that LED notification bar, makes the phone look sexy.
So if camera is not the most important requirement, go for it bro.
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Ok bro I understand my big problem is the screen do you know what version of the SP that cause this problem C5302 or C5303 or C5306 I think I live in south east asia maybe my phone version is C5302.another problem is auto restart some people said their phone restart every day.Anyway thx for the reply bro
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dara007_168 said:
Ok bro I understand my big problem is the screen do you know what version of the SP that cause this problem C5302 or C5303 or C5306 I think I live in south east asia maybe my phone version is C5302.another problem is auto restart some people said their phone restart every day.Anyway thx for the reply bro
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This issue is with almost all the Sony phones & not only the Xperia SPs. That is because the display used by Sony in their phones is not as good as the display used by some other manufactures like Samsung, HTC etc. However the problem is not severe. You can still use it outdoors if you manually increase the screen brightness a bit. I am from India & even my model is C5302. I have not faced any phone restart issue with my SP till now.
Good luck with your purchase & wish your mom a happy birthday.
P.S. Try to use the "thanks" button (on left side, below the profile picture) for saying thanks. It reduces the number of unnecessary posts written just for saying thanks.
the_helix said:
This issue is with almost all the Sony phones & not only the Xperia SPs. That is because the display used by Sony in their phones is not as good as the display used by some other manufactures like Samsung, HTC etc. However the problem is not severe. You can still use it outdoors if you manually increase the screen brightness a bit. I am from India & even my model is C5302. I have not faced any phone restart issue with my SP till now.
Good luck with your purchase & wish your mom a happy birthday.
P.S. Try to use the "thanks" button (on left side, below the profile picture) for saying thanks. It reduces the number of unnecessary posts written just for saying thanks.
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Yeah bro all SP user have this problem it's like 95/100 I think I'm gonna change my mind maybe Galaxy win or Alcatel one touch scribe HD what do you think?or any sony phone around 300$ but all xperia 2013 some are cheap and some are expensive and the price around 300$ is only xperia SP
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dara007_168 said:
Yeah bro all SP user have this problem it's like 95/100 I think I'm gonna change my mind maybe Galaxy win or Alcatel one touch scribe HD what do you think?or any sony phone around 300$ but all xperia 2013 some are cheap and some are expensive and the price around 300$ is only xperia SP
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You can have a look at Glaxy S4 mini, Nexus 4 or Glaxy S3. These cost about same as Xperia SP or slightly more. Xperia L is also an option.
But as far as value for money is concerned I feel Xperia SP & Xperia L are better.
Hello Everyone, So, i was about to buy 2 moto g's (1 for me and 1 for gf) But since she saw xperia sp led's she's in love with it and she really likes it, But i have some doubts if i should get it for us or not...
My question is: i did read alot that there is a serious touchscreen problem that plagues most Xperia sp, ghost touches, touch not responding.. problems like that
weak wifi signal, randomly rebooting, overheating for no causa..
Has this been fixed? what is the actual state about SP ? I don't care about it not beeing kit kat yet, i can just place a custom rom if needed
I just won't buy a phone for my girl knowing it'll probably give us more trouble than fun, thanks everyone.
The actual state for the Xperia SP in Android 4.3 Laggy, Buggy, por RAM Perfomanence , but in 4.1 .254 only have WiFi bug. i have cm11 oficial and have bugs in Led
I wish not bought my xperia SP. I wish buy moto g or iPhone 4s
Oh wow... Thanks alot, i guess this is a big no no, I'll just head to moto g along with my girl, thanks alot mate..
Moto G is a good phone but lacks of SD slot, and that makes the phone useless for me...
Now, Xperia SP NOT always is laggy and blablabla, mine have .201 (latest 4.3 update) stock, just instaled once when update was released and works perfect, no lag, no overheating, touch responding, good battery life, no RAM problem, just Wifi sometimes but that was always since 4.1...
Your or your GF has tried to repair or go to service center?
IF you don't upgrade to 4.3, you will have a decent phone. But you will need to root it to solve some issues.
I'm happy with my SP. wouldn't change it for nothing.
Root to solve issues like what?
And QBertoo, we don't have the phone yet, but since sp has so much problems we'll probably head to moto g despite it beeing weaker in terms of hardware but better in everything else.. sorry for double post
You can wait for the moto g LTE
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xAD3r1ty said:
My question is: i did read alot that there is a serious touchscreen problem that plagues most Xperia sp, ghost touches, touch not responding.. problems like that
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Usually cleaning the screen from time to time solves that for me.
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weak wifi signal, randomly rebooting, overheating for no causa..
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Wifi is good enough for me. Random reboots do happen every few weeks or so, but I'm using Xposed Framework and replaces lots of system apps so that may be the cause of it. Overheating hasn't been a problem for me, it gets hot when on mobile internet, but not very hot and all phones I have used do that.
The Xperia SP is a great phone, I think it is totally worth it and much better than the Moto G.
You could wait until Sony releases the next update this month to see if it fixes the problems.
I have a good deal on the Xperia Z1. But I've seen a very long thread here where people are complaining WiFi is weak and touch screen has a problem registering touches. I want to know are the issues fixed as of now or not. Don't want to get disappointed after buying the phone.
Sony Xperia Z1
For the touch issues, it was already fixed (as far as i know) last year. it was October 2014 since i bought this phone, and i didnt see any issues with touch, even with 4.4.4 kitkat update. with the Wifi, sometimes i need to restart the modem or phone itself to connect with the wifi, but it only occurs once a week or twice a month. maybe they will fix it on the lollipop update this March.
Oh thanks. Very much. How is the phone? Any other issues?
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if you'll stick to the stock rom and update it to kitkat, well for me there are no other issues aside from wifi drop..
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Phone is a solid device, that's for sure.
it's outdated and has a bad screen, go for z2.
bad screen? i guess yes, but i used a custom rom and the viewing sides re decent and actually readable.
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I don't love this device, but i like it.
Only problems for me:
1.Low and disorted speaker sound (because of waterproof covering)
2.Wifi distance performance is a bit weak, and drops from connection once a week.
3.Easily scratching screen. You should buy screen protect.
4.Screen touch issues, happens when your hands are moist. Also fixible with root access.
But I like it for:
1.Really good performance for gaming and daily usage.
2.Battery life is pretty good.
3.Lollipop update on the way with good UI.
4.Phone is really durable. I dropped it many times from a tall distance but anything happened to the phone.
5.Good camera performance (with manual settings).
If there's a good deal for this phone, and if you don't have much money, you can buy it without any fear.
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I have a good deal on the Xperia Z1. But I've seen a very long thread here where people are complaining WiFi is weak and touch screen has a problem registering touches. I want to know are the issues fixed as of now or not. Don't want to get disappointed after buying the phone.
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It depends on the price and the state of the phone, if used. I'd say that the xperia z1 is a great phone. Got this phone since september, bought mine with a broken screan and repaired it. The wi-fi bug happened to me only once since then, and didn't notice touch problems.