Does Xperia Z1 Support simultaneous screen mirroring and wifi internet connection? - Xperia Z1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello, I´ve acquired recently an used Xperia Z1, I know I can use MHL to output video to my TV but I want to do that wirelessly. So I want to know before I buy a miracast adapter if the phone supports simultaneous screen mirroring (over wifi direct or miracast) and mantain a wifi internet connection.
An example of what I want to do is to screen mirror the phone screen on my tv while I stream a movie over WiFi and have the phone near my couch so I can pause, skip, etc... and control the movie with the phone in my hands instead of having to walk over to the phone mhl connected to the TV.
I ask this because I´ve read that the xperia Z can´t do it and couldn´t find if the Z1 suffers the same issue.
No native english speaker so please forgive the bad grammar. Thanks in advance.

wolfnightmare said:
Hello, I´ve acquired recently an used Xperia Z1, I know I can use MHL to output video to my TV but I want to do that wirelessly. So I want to know before I buy a miracast adapter if the phone supports simultaneous screen mirroring (over wifi direct or miracast) and mantain a wifi internet connection.
An example of what I want to do is to screen mirror the phone screen on my tv while I stream a movie over WiFi and have the phone near my couch so I can pause, skip, etc... and control the movie with the phone in my hands instead of having to walk over to the phone mhl connected to the TV.
I ask this because I´ve read that the xperia Z can´t do it and couldn´t find if the Z1 suffers the same issue.
No native english speaker so please forgive the bad grammar. Thanks in advance.
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Yes, that's what called Miracast
I'm don't know about TV, but I test my Z1 to connect Lenovo projector, it's works really well with Miracast + streaming from Youtube :3
Just make sure, your TV support Z1 Miracast, since I need update Lenovo projector software, so I can connect it with my Z1.

Yenkazu said:
Yes, that's what called Miracast
I'm don't know about TV, but I test my Z1 to connect Lenovo projector, it's works really well with Miracast + streaming from Youtube :3
Just make sure, your TV support Z1 Miracast, since I need update Lenovo projector software, so I can connect it with my Z1.
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Thank you so much for your quick reply, I plan to use a EZcast adapter/dongle connected to my TV hdmi port, I would like to know if your Lenovo projector was connected to the internet too (maybe a Wi-Fi capable projector?) Or if you were using an adapter/dongle connected to the hdmi port in the projector. Thanks.

wolfnightmare said:
Thank you so much for your quick reply, I plan to use a EZcast adapter/dongle connected to my TV hdmi port, I would like to know if your Lenovo projector was connected to the internet too (maybe a Wi-Fi capable projector?) Or if you were using an adapter/dongle connected to the hdmi port in the projector. Thanks.
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My pleasure :3
Hmm, you can test that, since Google Cast use the same way :3
Eh, it didn't connect to wifi, because it's used by miracast, I'm afraid my projector didn't capable to do that ( I didn't test it ), but you can switch to connect to your router (if you need update the software or you can also use your router for streaming like phone> router> projector ).
I'm not using any adapter, since the projector used in built Miracast and wifi too.
You should test your adapter first, for compatible test :3

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[Q] DLNA Mirroring to PC

- Idea: Want to play Mobile Games on my big HD TV (has no DLNA), only solution so far: MHL Cable, but this is a pain in the a s s you need a MHL Adapter, a Charging Cable and a 5 meter HDMI Cable. b*tch please. that's no fun.
- Problem: TV has no DLNA function where i could mirror the Mobile Phone screen, else it would be solved.
Is there a Solution?
my PC is connected with DVI-HDMI to the HD TV, so if i could make my PC work like a DLNA Receiver with VLC Player or something, maybe i could get the Xperia Z find my PC in the LAN as DLNA device and stream the Xperia Screen (Games, Videos) to the PC VLC Player and watch it on my TV then like i play games on my PC.
Is this possible and how ?
DLNA will not enable you to play games on your tv. It will allow the playback of media.
You need something to mirror the phone image. Like MirrorLink. Which isn't available yet.
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ok, that's what i thought in the first place.
i contacted the sony support today and they told me that i can not play games from my phone on my older sony bravia tv without a MHL Adapter Cable (Micro USB to HDMI), but with a newer DLAN TV (yes DLAN, he thought it is correct like this, in the end i told him it's called DLNA).
that's where my thoughts came from, that a pc may also be able to view the screen picture and act as a DLNA Receiver like the newer DLNA TVs.
It's not DLNA, it's Miracast. Currently no solution to have your computer act as receiver exists, but it is theoretically possible on any device with WiFi and WiFi Direct.
Remember though that wireless mirroring doesn't work simultaneously with regular WiFi and has over a second delay.
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Ambroos said:
It's not DLNA, it's Miracast. Currently no solution to have your computer act as receiver exists, but it is theoretically possible on any device with WiFi and WiFi Direct.
Remember though that wireless mirroring doesn't work simultaneously with regular WiFi and has over a second delay.
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You could play limited media through your laptops DLNA server from the phone, just select your computer from the throw settings. But of course you will have to have the computer connected to the TV.
One scond delay over wifi, dude you need a new router or network config, there is a delay, but I would suggest it shouldn't be one second, this would be due to the connected device rendering the image for display not WIFI lag.
Yes as for using your tv for what you are asking MHL is really your only option
danw_oz said:
You could play limited media through your laptops DLNA server from the phone, just select your computer from the throw settings. But of course you will have to have the computer connected to the TV.
One scond delay over wifi, dude you need a new router or network config, there is a delay, but I would suggest it shouldn't be one second, this would be due to the connected device rendering the image for display not WIFI lag.
Yes as for using your tv for what you are asking MHL is really your only option
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He asked about mirroring, not streaming. Streaming music or movies to your pc is easy, I just use foobar for that (music only).
Miracast doesn't use your router at all, it's WiFi Direct which means it goes directly from your phone to the receiving device. You obviously haven't tried it because there really is quite some delay. Your phone has to compress the display data on the fly, transmit it and then the receiver needs to decode it. Don't expect that too be to fast. Check some YouTube videos and you'll see there is a delay.
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Ambroos said:
He asked about mirroring, not streaming. Streaming music or movies to your pc is easy, I just use foobar for that (music only).
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Yep and what do you think DLNA is??? Only streaming of various media types. So the answer is clearly NO. That was his question. And that is what I told him
Ambroos said:
Miracast doesn't use your router at all, it's WiFi Direct which means it goes directly from your phone to the receiving device. You obviously haven't tried it because there really is quite some delay. Your phone has to compress the display data on the fly, transmit it and then the receiver needs to decode it. Don't expect that too be to fast. Check some YouTube videos and you'll see there is a delay.
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Yes I wasn't referring to WIFI direct nor miracast, and neither were you in your quote stating about the over one second delay, well at least you didn't make that clear. I was referring to using wifi to mirror my screen on my Sony TV, and I state that quite clearly.
You ovbiously got out of the wrong side of the bed

htc media link vs chromecast?

Looking for something to stream my content wirelessly. I know htc has their own media link device but the chrome cast is way cheaper. Would I be missing out on anything if I went with the chrome cast vs the media link?
Really I just want to show off videos and photos. I could care less about streaming games.
Does anyone have experience with either device? Thank you
chivamex10 said:
Looking for something to stream my content wirelessly. I know htc has their own media link device but the chrome cast is way cheaper. Would I be missing out on anything if I went with the chrome cast vs the media link?
Really I just want to show off videos and photos. I could care less about streaming games.
Does anyone have experience with either device? Thank you
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They appear to be basically the same other than physical appearance. I don't know how much the HTC Media Link costs but unless it's $35 or less I doubt it makes sense to buy it over chrome cast. Plus the chromecast is just a stick you plug in. No extra wires or nonsense. Just plug and play. Whereas the Media Link has more of an Apple TV feel to it in the way it connects to the tv and requires a power cable.
All that being said, it is a device made by htc for htc devices while the chromecast has to cater to all android, or at least majority of them.
At the end of the I don't think you can go wring with either choice. But are sub $100 and won't break the bank. Both of them do the job they say they'll do. Just your preference as to which to get I suppose.
pretty sure the chromecast, even though it would probably be lower speced, it will be much more sold and therefore, more support with apps and stuff...
Get the chromecast, I've got one and is pretty slick. There will be a ton more compatible apps soon. It does need a hdmi port and a 5v micro usb supply. But your t.v.should have a usb spare. I use it in the bedroom to stream movies etc via plex app.
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if your tv is a smart tv and has dlna you wont need either. The m8 will broadcast to dlna enabled tv's on the same wifi network. I have the media link hd i used for my m7 and my m8. i honestly dont use it anymore because all my tv's have dlna.
It would depend on what you are trying to watch. I don't remember if the medialink does full mirroring by default (it did on my evo 4g lte), but if you don't need to mirror due to a non-chromecast supported streaming app like crunchyroll or xfinityTV, I would recommend the chromecast over the medialink, which in my personal experience had tons of compression and didn't look very good on even a 32 inch 1080 screen. The chromecast, on the other hand, when paired with the Allcast app, can steam pretty much anything you can play locally on your phone to the TV flawlessly. If you're gonna watch netflix/youtube/hulu or any of the officially supported apps, then its a no brainer. I wish i had cancelled my order on my original medialink HD when they told me it was on backorder and asked me what i wanted to do. I used it for a week and then went straight back to MHL because of the compression. When the chromecast came and Allcast was released, I forgot i even had the medialink.
wranglerray said:
if your tv is a smart tv and has dlna you wont need either. The m8 will broadcast to dlna enabled tv's on the same wifi network. I have the media link hd i used for my m7 and my m8. i honestly dont use it anymore because all my tv's have dlna.
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I want to buy the HTC Media link for my M8
wanna install it on my car to stream videos and music. curious on what model your media link is?
I want to buy this one is this the correct one?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Genuine-HTC..._Internet_Media_Streamers&hash=item43c59cff0b
Z51 said:
I want to buy the HTC Media link for my M8
wanna install it on my car to stream videos and music. curious on what model your media link is?
I want to buy this one is this the correct one?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Genuine-HTC..._Internet_Media_Streamers&hash=item43c59cff0b
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Media Link & Chromecast are NOT the same. They use different protocols. Media Link uses WiFi Direct. It is what used to be called WiFi p2p networking. It is great for certain things, HD video is not really one of them. The CVhromecast makes its own connection to the internet via WiFi & is only controlled by the device for most uses right now. Wifi Direct is supported in a rudimentary fashion, which will likely improve, but they are most definitely not the same thing.
Media link is better suited for presentations. Chromecast is better suited for entertainment.
Also, if all you want to do is get content to a TV, MHL may work better. It handles 1080p & audio flawlessly & if you are patient, as soon as a real MHL 3.0 device is available, it will support 4K video & 8 audio channels.
GSLEON3 said:
Media Link & Chromecast are NOT the same. They use different protocols. Media Link uses WiFi Direct. It is what used to be called WiFi p2p networking. It is great for certain things, HD video is not really one of them. The CVhromecast makes its own connection to the internet via WiFi & is only controlled by the device for most uses right now. Wifi Direct is supported in a rudimentary fashion, which will likely improve, but they are most definitely not the same thing.
Media link is better suited for presentations. Chromecast is better suited for entertainment.
Also, if all you want to do is get content to a TV, MHL may work better. It handles 1080p & audio flawlessly & if you are patient, as soon as a real MHL 3.0 device is available, it will support 4K video & 8 audio channels.
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I dont need it for my home TV
I need it for my car. I wanna be able to stream music (spotify) to my car. it has the RCA connectors and I have a RCA to HDMI cable so I would use it like so. would it work?
Z51 said:
I dont need it for my home TV
I need it for my car. I wanna be able to stream music (spotify) to my car. it has the RCA connectors and I have a RCA to HDMI cable so I would use it like so. would it work?
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there has to be a wifi network for the media link to work. HTC does have a Bluetooth stereo adapter you can use to stream music wireless to anything with a aux input jack.
http://www.htc.com/us/accessories/htc-bluetooth-stereoclip/
you can find a rca to aux input cable for 3$ at any Walmart or radio shack
wranglerray said:
there has to be a wifi network for the media link to work. HTC does have a Bluetooth stereo adapter you can use to stream music wireless to anything with a aux input jack.
http://www.htc.com/us/accessories/htc-bluetooth-stereoclip/
you can find a rca to aux input cable for 3$ at any Walmart or radio shack
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THERE DOES NOT have to be WiFi for Media Link to work. It is the same thing as the Push2TV from Netgear. It uses WIFi Direct, aka WiFi p2p, it creates it's own network between two devices. Chromecast on the other hand communicates via WiFi, needing a wireless network to get content, the handset acting only as a controller.
MHL will play video, or audio, but I don't know about HDMI to RCA conversion. It does have the least amount of lag, aside from Chromecast, which doesn't really count because it is using it's own seperate Wifi & app interface. With MHL or WiFi Direct, you are literally streaming, screen casting, from your device to your 2nd display. With chromecast, the CC device actually connects to the network & content is played directly on it.
The downside to CC is you need to have a wifi AP. The downside to MHL or WiFi Direct is that you have to have you phone screen on or content will not play.
connect to car's head unit?
Hi,
i am trying to find a solution to get my M8 content mirrorlink to my Honda City 2014.
i don't really intend to stream video on it but all i want is to display the GPS on the 7" screen.
had tried the MHL to HDMI cable but somehow it will just connect audio and nothing else.
would it be better for me to just get a media link or chromecast in this case?
p/s: Honda Malaysia (where i'm from) doesn't supply GPS integrated HU in their vehicles..
p/s: i had also done wire bypass so i'm able to use the HU visuals even when driving.
please help
I love my ChromeCast. If you have the power on a separate source, it turns on your tv automatically with whatever you're casting.
Chromecast takes care of just about every bit of media streaming I do. Definitely recommended.
HTC Media link feature to chromecast
I apologize if I should post this elsewhere, new member, I'm trying to find out if I could use the HTC One M7 three finger swipe feature, which automatically goes to dual screen mode to duplicate screen via a HTC media link HD on TV, with the chromecast instead? I know I can use chromecast with it normally, just would be nice to have three finger swipe feature, cheers in advance

Chrome cast in car dvd

I have DVD in my cat (pioneer avh 2450bt)
I was wondering, if I will buy an usb to Hdmi adapter and connect
The chrome cast to my DVD with the adapter,
It will mirror my screen??
Tnx.
guy6136206 said:
I have DVD in my cat (pioneer avh 2450bt)
I was wondering, if I will buy an usb to Hdmi adapter and connect
The chrome cast to my DVD with the adapter,
It will mirror my screen??
Tnx.
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Not unless you have internet access in your car.
Asphyx said:
Not unless you have internet access in your car.
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It can use my phone Internet no?
Does it use much data??
And do you know any other way to mirror the screen?
Tnx.
I think the root problem here is that Chromecast and the phone both need to be connected to the same access point... of which you probably don't have running in your car. Maybe it would work with one of those wifi hotspots if the hotspot allows attached devices to see eachother.... likely wouldn't be fast though
guy6136206 said:
It can use my phone Internet no?
Does it use much data??
And do you know any other way to mirror the screen?
Tnx.
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well it won't use a lot of data (or shouldn't) because all it would be using the internet for is to load the receiver app.
Not sure Mirroring works on a phone in wireless hotspot mode. If you had two phones one for the Hotspot and another for the mirror it might work.
And Do a search here because some have had some luck using the CCast while in Hotspot mode but I'm not sure if Mirroring was possible with that.
Apk07 said:
I think the root problem here is that Chromecast and the phone both need to be connected to the same access point... of which you probably don't have running in your car. Maybe it would work with one of those wifi hotspots if the hotspot allows attached devices to see eachother.... likely wouldn't be fast though
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He could use one of those MiFi pucks as an AP and it should be fast enough for CCast use...even Mirroring.
Apk07 said:
I think the root problem here is that Chromecast and the phone both need to be connected to the same access point... of which you probably don't have running in your car. Maybe it would work with one of those wifi hotspots if the hotspot allows attached devices to see eachother.... likely wouldn't be fast though
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Do you know any other device that will do the job?
Asphyx said:
well it won't use a lot of data (or shouldn't) because all it would be using the internet for is to load the receiver app.
Not sure Mirroring works on a phone in wireless hotspot mode. If you had two phones one for the Hotspot and another for the mirror it might work.
And Do a search here because some have had some luck using the CCast while in Hotspot mode but I'm not sure if Mirroring was possible with that.
He could use one of those MiFi pucks as an AP and it should be fast enough for CCast use...even Mirroring.
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Yeah but this is to much devices in my car,
I just want some simple mirror cast without all this trouble.
guy6136206 said:
Yeah but this is to much devices in my car,
I just want some simple mirror cast without all this trouble.
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You could just plug the phone into the HDMI port of the DVD player if the phone has one...
Mirroring still requires WiFi access for CCast and the phone and Internet to work.
I have nexus 5.
I wandered if there is other mirror device that isn't required all this mess.
My friend have a DVD and someone installed him some device that he can mirror the screen with Mira cast, and no Internet required.
And i prefer it to be wireless.
As I see it, you have 3 choices:
1) If your phone supports MHL, go for a micro USB to HDMI adapter. This is wired and gives the best screen mirroring. No internet is required.
2) If your phone supports Miracast, go for a Miracast dongle. WiFi direct is used and no internet is required.
3) If you really want to use Chromecast, you also can. However, you need to make your phone a WiFi hotspot and need another phone or computer to setup the Chromecast to connect to your main phone. Internet is also required while screen mirroring. The quality depends on your phone model. Also note that only some phone models support screen mirroring using Chromecast.
guy6136206 said:
I have nexus 5.
I wandered if there is other mirror device that isn't required all this mess.
My friend have a DVD and someone installed him some device that he can mirror the screen with Mira cast, and no Internet required.
And i prefer it to be wireless.
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Miracast doesn't require an internet connection, but it DOES require a Phone that is Miracast capable.
Anox gave you some choices but it would appear you need to get a Miracast dongle provided your Phone supports it.
anox said:
As I see it, you have 3 choices:
1) If your phone supports MHL, go for a micro USB to HDMI adapter. This is wired and gives the best screen mirroring. No internet is required.
2) If your phone supports Miracast, go for a Miracast dongle. WiFi direct is used and no internet is required.
3) If you really want to use Chromecast, you also can. However, you need to make your phone a WiFi hotspot and need another phone or computer to setup the Chromecast to connect to your main phone. Internet is also required while screen mirroring. The quality depends on your phone model. Also note that only some phone models support screen mirroring using Chromecast.
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I was thinking about the mira cast.
The only problem I have is that my DVD haven't got an Hdmi port.
If I buy an usb to Hdmi converter it will work? I'm not sure.
guy6136206 said:
I was thinking about the mira cast.
The only problem I have is that my DVD haven't got an Hdmi port.
If I buy an usb to Hdmi converter it will work? I'm not sure.
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Well how did you expect to plug the CCast into it? It also has an HDMI.
You can buy a HDMI to analog converter but by the time you did that you might as well just buy yourself a cheap tablet and skip the Phone control altogether.
The converter is about 4 times as expensive as the CCast is!
and right around the price point you can find a Nexus 7 on Ebay for.
Asphyx said:
Well how did you expect to plug the CCast into it? It also has an HDMI.
You can buy a HDMI to analog converter but by the time you did that you might as well just buy yourself a cheap tablet and skip the Phone control altogether.
The converter is about 4 times as expensive as the CCast is!
and right around the price point you can find a Nexus 7 on Ebay for.
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OK, tnx for all your help.
I will think about it.
Take a look at what was done here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/hardware-hacking/chromecast/m3-navigation-screen-t2828038

How to use my smartphone as a TV remote through Chromecast ?

I have an old Sony Smart ready tv , I have Chromecast on it also and cable also
Now issue is I have lost my remote for TV , I want to know is there any way I can use my Andriod smartphone as a TV remote control using Chromecast
My phone does not have IR blaster so the only option is through WiFi , I was just thinking that my Chromecast is connected with wifi and smartphone too ,there may be any way through which this is possible ,please suggest
Sudhirkashkari said:
I have an old Sony Smart ready tv , I have Chromecast on it also and cable also
Now issue is I have lost my remote for TV , I want to know is there any way I can use my Andriod smartphone as a TV remote control using Chromecast
My phone does not have IR blaster so the only option is through WiFi , I was just thinking that my Chromecast is connected with wifi and smartphone too ,there may be any way through which this is possible ,please suggest
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Interesting idea, but I think that this is not possible.
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Witch products do you use to connect Mi 8 on a external Display?

Hi guys, can you please link products do connect Mi 8 on a external Display?
If you have one, can you put links here?
I'm trying to find a way to use on my TV
The are usb type-c to hdmi converters.
Anyway, the maximum speed of the USB on this mobiles is really slow (30MB/s). It's theoretically able to provide a good video but in practice it's not.
mi 8 don't support mhl over usb c so it's not possible
I'm using mibox 3. it works good.
I am also interested in this subject. I do have a multimedia car stereo with HDMI in and I would like to mirror the MI8 to it (to watch movies or the navigation app).
I did understand that it doesn't support MHL or whatever BUT I was wondering if there is any other options (Displaylink as example) that is compatible to use in car (so that is not needed to be powered or that can be powered thru usb and that doesn't need WiFi).
Any help/idea?
m.zambonelli said:
I am also interested in this subject. I do have a multimedia car stereo with HDMI in and I would like to mirror the MI8 to it (to watch movies or the navigation app).
I did understand that it doesn't support MHL or whatever BUT I was wondering if there is any other options (Displaylink as example) that is compatible to use in car (so that is not needed to be powered or that can be powered thru usb and that doesn't need WiFi).
Any help/idea?
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Displaylink works over using USB
i have a displayplay laptop from sentio and that works.
samson_li said:
Displaylink works over using USB
i have a displayplay laptop from sentio and that works.
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It works with mi8? what laptop model is?
i use apowermirror installed on both PC and Cellphone (make search over google, it's easy), connect PC to the phone through USB or WIFI and have phone display on PC and viceversa, can make plenty of settings and quality... this way then i have the PC connected on my main high quality TV and there we go, no latency high quality phone on TV and i use it for gaming for example connect bluetooth gamepad to the phone, launch high quality android games such as life is strange and played with high experience on TV, this as usefull when i was sick and ill at home and had no good pc and no consoles.... was a very good experience.... the only downside is that apowermirror can transmit in "FULL SCREEN" only with paid VIP pro version.
m.zambonelli
Chromecast, anycast, Miracast.... Chromecast is the best, but none is perfect
Scrcpy - useful tool when my display was broken (touch worked)
https://github.com/Genymobile/scrcpy

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