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3G in the US??

Can someone confirm that 3G is working on the S730 in the US in the released models?

butzchan said:
Can someone confirm that 3G is working on the S730 in the US in the released models?
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if you have att then it will work
nice phone

ultraprimeomega said:
if you have att then it will work
nice phone
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So I have heard, but can anyone confirm this? Mobileplanet is apparently saying otherwise:
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1292833

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UMTS_frequency_bands#UMTS.2FHSDPA.2FHSUPA_frequency_bands_deployment
" * Band I (W-CDMA 2100) in Europe and Asia (Brazilian mobile carriers will deploy W-CDMA 2100 as well)
* Band IV (W-CDMA 1700) in America (e.g. T-Mobile)
* Band V (W-CDMA 850) in Australia (Telstra NextG) and Brazil (Telemig Celular and Claro)
* Band VIII (W-CDMA 900) in Europe (e.g. Elisa Oyj)
* 1900 / 850 (independently, for both the uplink and downlink) for America (e.g. AT&T Mobility)"
http://www.htc.com/product/03-product_s730.htm
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HSDPA/UMTS: 2100 MHz
GSM/GPRS/EDGE: Quad-band (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
(The device will operate on frequencies available from the cellular network)"
Oh NOs! But I'm kinda confused at this 850 and 1900 AT&T thing. Will the phones hardware just be like "Nah, son. Too much bandwidth."
Ray Penpilage.
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Called HTC Tech Support 866-449-8358:
The AT&T Tilt
"HSDPA/UMTS: Tri-band 850, 1900, 2100 MHz"
The S730
"HSDPA/UMTS: 2100 MHz"
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Transferred to AT&T:
to sales... asked for tech support... sales person got me an answer which was "yea.. it's compatible..." "really? are you sure? I don't think you all offer 3g coverage in this frequency range" "oh it's not a phone you bought from us?" "yes I said that already, can you transfer me to tech support" "oh let me transfer you to customer service." "yes that'd be great. thanks" "i'd like to personally thank you for calling AT&T. did you have any questions today?" yes. how are you employed? CS Reps unavailable this late in the day.
Damn. Oh well.. I use T-Mobile anyway... so I didn't expect fast or good or stable or acceptable coverage of any kind.

my S730 is due to come today..I guess it will be going back....why did they make a device with no 3G connectivity in USA?.....mobileplanet is going to get a lot of returns!

premneo said:
my S730 is due to come today..I guess it will be going back....why did they make a device with no 3G connectivity in USA?.....mobileplanet is going to get a lot of returns!
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Because it's not a device for the U.S.

No US 3G or GPS on S730
I spoke to On The Go Solutions prior to ordering the "US released" S730 product and they stated that 1900Mz UMTS is supported by the unit and cautioned me that one must be utilizing AT&T's network to use the feature.
I ordered the unit only to find the statement is incorrect - only 2100Mz is supported; thus no US UMTS support.
On The Go Solutions has offered to take back the unit.
I note that the ambiguous "UMTS supported" statements on several US vendor web sites have been changed to unambiguous "2100Mz-only UMTS supported" statements.
Whereas there is NMEA GPS data on comm 4 (8 bit, 4800 baud), the data does not appear to contain any useful information. No actual satellite data is provided, even though I have left the unit outside, with an unobstructed view of the sky, for over an hour.

S730 Gets FCC clearance
http://www.smartphonethoughts.com/n...n-of-the-htc-s730-gets-the-fcc-clearance.html
S730 received FCC clearance for the US. I wonder if this helps us.

Yeah, saw that. This is model WING200, mine is model WING220. Wonder what the difference in hardware is.

butzchan said:
Yeah, saw that. This is model WING200, mine is model WING220. Wonder what the difference in hardware is.
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WINGS220 is the modelID for single band WINGS. Maybe the diversification is only done by software configuration (e.g. NV items). See my thread on Radio ROM dump where I explain how to dump NV items. Someone should compare them.

3g wont work in the states, even on ATT. I see mine try from time to time but it always ends up back on Edge. T mobile is rumord to be working on a 2100 band 3g network but no real word on it yet.
I would love 3g but I dont really miss it either. Edge is fast enough and I am a heavy data user, I only notice issues when its trying to reformat a website that was not made very well.

Okay this may come as a dumb question. I have T Mobile and this phone has the Bands such as 850 and 1900 so will this phone work in the states?

Negative, theres speculation in other threads that depending on the chip version in the phone it can be unlocked through software tweeks but at the moment it is just speculation so it will not work in the states.
If the American version releases you bet that will work on 3g. As of now our phones use the 50, 900, 1800, 1900 for voice communication and GPRS / EDge while using 2100 for 3g. T-Mobile has been working on deploying a 2100 band 3g network so it is possible that it might work on your phone eventually in one of their markets.
But as of now unless your in an area where they have it set up, or we figure out what the chip is and see if changing one of the settings wil enable these 3g frequencies for the states its a no go

Okay so i have done some research and from what i have read the phone will work in the states utilizing GPRS/EDGE. I have read Forums with people who live in the states and have this phone. Now the one thing is that you wont be able to use the 3G stuff which is fine by me because I currently have a Excalibur which doesnt have it anyways. I am still a lil confused because i get all this different information from people saying that you wont be able to use the phone and others that say you will. Someone help clear this up for me please !!!!

yes, you can use the phone in the US. i am using it here in San Diego, CA. You just wont get 3G data speeds, only Edge

westindiesking said:
Okay so i have done some research and from what i have read the phone will work in the states utilizing GPRS/EDGE. I have read Forums with people who live in the states and have this phone. Now the one thing is that you wont be able to use the 3G stuff which is fine by me because I currently have a Excalibur which doesnt have it anyways. I am still a lil confused because i get all this different information from people saying that you wont be able to use the phone and others that say you will. Someone help clear this up for me please !!!!
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I've had the S730 sense Dec. 07 and use with AT&T, no 3G but it works great. I'm more then pleased and I live in the Carolina's.

Sprint iDen 800mhz -> Sprint CDMA/LTE 800mhz and the One

So, according to HTC.com and Phonescoop.com, the radio for the Sprint version will have 1900mhz LTE, just as with the HTC Evo 4G LTE. Sprint is supposedly rolling out 800mhz LTE (former Nextel iDen) in the 2nd half of 2013. Question is, can the radio be modified via software to have 800mhz LTE, or is this a hardware issue?
Anyone know?
Thanks!

aschlect said:
So, according to HTC.com and Phonescoop.com, the radio for the Sprint version will have 1900mhz LTE, just as with the HTC Evo 4G LTE. Sprint is supposedly rolling out 800mhz LTE (former Nextel iDen) in the 2nd half of 2013. Question is, can the radio be modified via software to have 800mhz LTE, or is this a hardware issue?
Anyone know?
Thanks!
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What a mess most of their customers will have, IMO stupid decision. Most people to use this network will need to replace their phones, and it means for you, that you have a decision to make on your LTE future, one which phone you buy or change provider, second option probably the best.
Please note that the Snapdragon 600 chipset does not have any modem support on chip, therefore additional hardware radios are added per requirement. HTC should have gone for the Snapdragon 800 which has a modem that supports LTE as well.
And in short, no you can't just change, it is hardware. However, towards the end of the year hopefully all phones will start to use the Qualcomm chipset announced yesterday which covers all bands worldwide.
HSPA/WCDMA:
Europe/Asia: 850/900/1900/2100 MHz
GSM/GPRS/EDGE:
850/900/1800/1900 MHz
LTE:
EU: 800/1800/2600 MHz
US (AT&T): 700/850/AWS/1900 MHz
US (TMO): 700/AWS MHz
US (Sprint): 1900 MHz
Asia: 1800/2600 Mhz

Re: Sprint iDen 800mhz -> Sprint CDMA/LTE 800mhz and the One
Ok thanks for the clarification that's what I was thinking. Perhaps Sprint will go ahead and pre-load the LTE radio for the former iDen 850 spectrum, and activate it with a firmware update. That's all I can hope for I guess.
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I read something in this thread about the new Sprint ver One having 800/1900Mhz LTE radio....does this apply here?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=38426723

thebbbrain said:
I read something in this thread about the new Sprint ver One having 800/1900Mhz LTE radio....does this apply here?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=38426723
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Very interesting. Not sure what is going on, also not sure if HTC has any clue what is going on. There website is obviously wrong or not up to date. Still doesn't list 800MHz in US.

Looks like the One will only have Sprint band 25 LTE (1900). At least from the FCC figures.
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SVDO is also missing, so no simultaneous 3G and voice. Understandably, though, with the LTE network increase.

Have gone from S1 to S2 with sprint, might go with HTC One instead of S4.
Does only one band of LTE on the phone mean there could be some towers that use the band not included in the phone, so I would only get 3g?

ajent said:
Have gone from S1 to S2 with sprint, might go with HTC One instead of S4.
Does only one band of LTE on the phone mean there could be some towers that use the band not included in the phone, so I would only get 3g?
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Do you have problems with Sprint now? are you using LTE currently?
Your LTE coverage will only be as good as how many 1900Mhz towers Sprint has around. If sprint doesn't have a tower in your phones range for LTE then you will only get 3G
If you travel a lot with roaming, then you will most likely want the AT&T model which covers most of greater America. If you get LTE while roaming will depend on Sprint and other Carriers agreements, otherwise yes your option will be 3G.

Thanks, I wasn't sure if their towers would have both bands or just 1, I wasn't sure why the phone only having 1900Mhz would matter.
I don't have an LTE phone, but I do have wimax coverage in Daytona, LTE is supposedly on the way. My work forces me to travel a lot, don't get to use 4g much anyway, I'm heavily dependent on roamcontrol, with a hacked PRL I make due with us cellular's 3g usually. When I am in Houston/Daytona I would like my LTE phone to have proper coverage though ;P

Re: Sprint iDen 800mhz -> Sprint CDMA/LTE 800mhz and the One
ajent said:
Thanks, I wasn't sure if their towers would have both bands or just 1, I wasn't sure why the phone only having 1900Mhz would matter.
I don't have an LTE phone, but I do have wimax coverage in Daytona, LTE is supposedly on the way. My work forces me to travel a lot, don't get to use 4g much anyway, I'm heavily dependent on roamcontrol, with a hacked PRL I make due with us cellular's 3g usually. When I am in Houston/Daytona I would like my LTE phone to have proper coverage though ;P
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What's this I hear about a hacked PRL? Wanna let me in on that?
LTE coverage is great throughout Houston. It gets weak and sometimes drops to 3G when in buildings though.
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ajent said:
Have gone from S1 to S2 with sprint, might go with HTC One instead of S4.
Does only one band of LTE on the phone mean there could be some towers that use the band not included in the phone, so I would only get 3g?
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Yes you are thinking correctly, however Sprint's 1900mhz is pretty comprehensive, in fact, I believe Sprint has more 1900mhz spectrum than any other carrier (hence why Sprint used to be 'Sprint PCS', referencing the PCS 1900mhz band), and far more 1900mhz spectrum than the old iDen 800mhz. You should not have any problems whatsoever.

Ill just be glad when they roll out 800mhz 3g..which this phone does have suport for. If they finally get around to upgrading the 3g here in Houston then I wont mind as much when the connection drops down. As such, the way it is right now, 3g is nigh on unusable, and sometimes so is 4g.

danw_oz said:
Please note that the Snapdragon 600 chipset does not have any modem support on chip, therefore additional hardware radios are added per requirement. HTC should have gone for the Snapdragon 800 which has a modem that supports LTE as well.
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It has nothing to do with the modem. The One has a separate Qualcomm MDM9x15 modem which is not that much different than the modem that's integrated into the Snapdragon 800. It has plenty of ports which could handle another LTE band if one could be "fed" to it.
The issue is the front end RF stuff. Due to the uniqueness of the 800MHz LTE band that will be used by Sprint, it's difficult at this point to source the necessary antenna switches and transceivers and other front end RF components that will handle that specific 800Mhz LTE band.
My guess is that you won't see any ESMR800 LTE phones come out before Q3 or Q4 and it's also probably at least six months at this point before Sprint starts to deploy the technology commercially.

greengoldmello said:
Ill just be glad when they roll out 800mhz 3g..which this phone does have suport for. If they finally get around to upgrading the 3g here in Houston then I wont mind as much when the connection drops down. As such, the way it is right now, 3g is nigh on unusable, and sometimes so is 4g.
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They are not going to roll-out EVDO on 800 MHz, only voice/1x, and a 5x5 LTE carrier.

That is not what I have heard from multiple Sprint reps about EVDO on the 800mhz. I was told, very recently in fact, that the voice/EVDO would be rolled out to the 800mhz, well before any LTE bands were activated in that spectrum. That Sprint was pushing for better penetration for voice and EVDO signals through the 800mhz spread, and that LTE would be focused on the 1900mhz for the time being.

Gaigebacca said:
That is not what I have heard from multiple Sprint reps about EVDO on the 800mhz. I was told, very recently in fact, that the voice/EVDO would be rolled out to the 800mhz, well before any LTE bands were activated in that spectrum. That Sprint was pushing for better penetration for voice and EVDO signals through the 800mhz spread, and that LTE would be focused on the 1900mhz for the time being.
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According to this article:
http://www.lightreading.com/sprint/sprint-to-dial-800-for-lte-in-q4/240153521
"We expect to deploy LTE on 800MHz in the fourth quarter," said Steve Elfman, president of network operations and wholesale at Sprint on the call.
Nonetheless, Sprint is clearing the way for LTE integration with WiMax partner Clearwire. Hesse said he expects Clearwire's fast 4G service to start arriving late in the third quarter with "TD-LTE, multi-band devices."
With so many different chunks of frequency to support, Sprint will need these devices to switch between 2.5GHz, 800MHz and 1900MHz to get around the network.

ilusnforc said:
With so many different chunks of frequency to support, Sprint will need these devices to switch between 2.5GHz, 800MHz and 1900MHz to get around the network.
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That's not that unusual and really not that big of a deal for the the radios to handle in the upcoming devices.
In any case, working with multiple bands is fairly commonplace. Look at Verizon and AT&T for example which operate four different bands.

Wow
This has to be the most technical thread I have ever read Where do you folks obtain all this knowledge?

Does htc one dev support T-MOBILE 4G LTE?

I live in chicago but my phone only show the 3G and H icon,Why not 4G?

shanajintian said:
I live in chicago but my phone only show the 3G and H icon,Why not 4G?
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You might just be in a refarm area without LTE.

shanajintian said:
I live in chicago but my phone only show the 3G and H icon,Why not 4G?
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It most likely means you are not in a LTE area. 3G is UMTS and H HSPA+. I am sure if it was LTE you would see LTE or 4G on the screen. Run speed test and go to the settings menu and see what connection you are getting. It will tell you if it is one of the top 3. I do not think LTE is in Chicago yet for T-Mo. Also T-Mo changes the 3G/H with a 4G logo to make you think the phone is 100% of the time in 4G mode, it isn't. during sleep/deep sleep the phone goes into 3G (UMTS) to save battery.

Also make sure you have a LTE-capable SIM from T-mo.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=40640018
Yes it supports T-Mobile's LTE.

Tidbits said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=40640018
Yes it supports T-Mobile's LTE.
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Download speed under 10M

shanajintian said:
I live in chicago but my phone only show the 3G and H icon,Why not 4G?
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H is 4G. It's just the icon the device displays. Some display 4G an some H but they are the same speeds.
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Tmobile's LTE is Band IV 1700, no?
The unlocked developer's edition DOES NOT support that signal.
Am I mistaken?
Furthermore, if I'm not mistaken about this too, I believe the dev edition only supports Tmobile's HSPA 21 MB/s. It doesn't even support HSPA+ 42 MB/s.
Please correct me if I'm wrong? What will the refarming do?

onthecouchagain said:
Tmobile's LTE is Band IV 1700, no?
The unlocked developer's edition DOES NOT support that signal.
Am I mistaken?
Furthermore, if I'm not mistaken about this too, I believe the dev edition only supports Tmobile's HSPA 21 MB/s. It doesn't even support HSPA+ 42 MB/s.
Please correct me if I'm wrong? What will the refarming do?
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It seems to be true that the dev edition will only do 21Mb/s and only where 1900 has been refarmed in regards to HSPA. It DOES support T-Mobile LTE though which is listed as AWS (1700/2100 bands) in the tech specs.

Fromako said:
It seems to be true that the dev edition will only do 21Mb/s and only where 1900 has been refarmed in regards to HSPA. It DOES support T-Mobile LTE though which is listed as AWS (1700/2100 bands) in the tech specs.
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I thought Tmobile LTE is only 1700, which isn't listed from HTC's website of the Dev edition:
Compatible on these frequencies:
HSPA/WCDMA: 850/1900/2100 MHz
GSM/GPRS/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
LTE: 700/850/AWS/1900 MHz (US)
But you also said 2100 which is listed. Is 2100 also LTE? I thought 2100 was only HSPA+? If it is LTE, why isn't it in the LTE category from the website?
All genuine questions. I'm confused.

onthecouchagain said:
I thought Tmobile LTE is only 1700, which isn't listed from HTC's website of the Dev edition:
Compatible on these frequencies:
HSPA/WCDMA: 850/1900/2100 MHz
GSM/GPRS/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
LTE: 700/850/AWS/1900 MHz (US)
But you also said 2100 which is listed. Is 2100 also LTE? I thought 2100 was only HSPA+? If it is LTE, why isn't it in the LTE category from the website?
All genuine questions. I'm confused.
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I won't claim to be an expert on radio frequencies but it I would propose that there's nothing stopping a radio from being capable of picking up two different formats at the same frequency (at separate times). It just depends which format is broadcast at a given frequency in the area.

onthecouchagain said:
I thought Tmobile LTE is only 1700, which isn't listed from HTC's website of the Dev edition:
Compatible on these frequencies:
HSPA/WCDMA: 850/1900/2100 MHz
GSM/GPRS/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
LTE: 700/850/AWS/1900 MHz (US)
But you also said 2100 which is listed. Is 2100 also LTE? I thought 2100 was only HSPA+? If it is LTE, why isn't it in the LTE category from the website?
All genuine questions. I'm confused.
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AWS is 1700/2100. TMO uses 1700 for up or down ( i can remember which) and 2100 for the other. 3G and HSPA wont work unless you are in a refarmed area on the dev edition. As someone said previously, "H" should be LTE since Chicago and suburbs have both LTE and have been refarmed. I have a dev edition and will be switching to TMO next month, and I live in Chicago as well. Im hoping that someone will get AWS frequencies unlocked on the dev edition. In the mean time:
OP try the following-
Flash a tmo stock rom and see what it gives you for signal. It should show LTE instead of H, but no difference in speed.

I will return it and get tmo version

Tidbits said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=40640018
Yes it supports T-Mobile's LTE.
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How is this possible? I thought the dev edition doesn't have Tmo's 1700 LTE bands? What sort of wizardry is this?
Also: http://www.cnet.com/8301-17918_1-57...obiles-lte-network-the-devils-in-the-details/
This is what HTC's website lists as compatible with the dev edition:
HSPA/WCDMA: 850/1900/2100 MHz
GSM/GPRS/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
LTE: 700/850/AWS/1900 MHz (US)
How is LTE possible? I'm really confused.
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I will return it and get tmo version
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I'm considering this too. Are you doing it for the LTE support?
I would much rather keep my dev edition, but if it's not going to get LTE, that may sway me toward the Tmobile version also. Is that why you're doing it?

onthecouchagain said:
How is this possible? I thought the dev edition doesn't have Tmo's 1700 LTE bands? What sort of wizardry is this?
Also: http://www.cnet.com/8301-17918_1-57...obiles-lte-network-the-devils-in-the-details/
This is what HTC's website lists as compatible with the dev edition:
HSPA/WCDMA: 850/1900/2100 MHz
GSM/GPRS/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
LTE: 700/850/AWS/1900 MHz (US)
How is LTE possible? I'm really confused.
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I'm considering this too. Are you doing it for the LTE support?
I would much rather keep my dev edition, but if it's not going to get LTE, that may sway me toward the Tmobile version also. Is that why you're doing it?
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AWS is LTE for T-Mobile.
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AWS is LTE for T-Mobile.
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Do you mean AWS 1900? So that's 4G LTE?
Then what's the big fuss about "Band IV 1700" LTE? Is that a different sort of LTE? Better? Worse?
Appreciate you clarifying. I'm confused.

It will work. There's various screenshots of it working. Also a HTC rep clarified this not too long ago on Twitter.
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onthecouchagain said:
Do you mean AWS 1900? So that's 4G LTE?
Then what's the big fuss about "Band IV 1700" LTE? Is that a different sort of LTE? Better? Worse?
Appreciate you clarifying. I'm confused.
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onthecouchagain, you gotta actually read man. AWS IS T-Mobile LTE. AWS 1900 doesn't mean anything. Go back and read the specs for the developer edition, it says LTE support bands are 700/850/AWS/1900. See how the third item there is AWS. AWS is the band (or more specifically set of bands) that run T-Mobile LTE. And as numerous people on this thread have already reported, the developer edition works on T-Mobile LTE. The only thing the developer edition doesn't support is UTMS 1700, which means if you don't live in a refarmed 1900 MHZ area OR you don't live in an area where T-Mobile has LTE live, then you'll only get edge speeds and won't pick up HSPA+ on the 1700 mhz band.

Can you get Lollipop update not on Verizon network?

Since Verizon phones are auto-unlocked and the Droid Turbo has AT&T LTE bands, I was considering buying this phone but my only worry is - will the phone get the Lollipop update if I'm not on the verizon network?
Also, I heard MMS is a little wonky if you're not on the verizon network as well, is this true?

I guess you can find the official update file and flash it through the stock recovery
That's how I updated my Turbo before the update was available through the normal update menu.

Droid Turbo will get updates with any or no sim card. it is not dependent if you have any sim or verizon sim.

karuptx said:
Since Verizon phones are auto-unlocked and the Droid Turbo has AT&T LTE bands, I was considering buying this phone
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Droid Turbo XT1254 does not have all the AT&T LTE bands. Has 2, 4, 17 but not LTE band 5 (now used in some locations). Just like it also doesn't have all the T-mobile LTE bands. Doesn't have LTE band 12.
Moto Turbo and Moto Maxx (XT1225) has 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 17 -- ALL the AT&T LTE bands.
That may or may not matter to you, depending on if you need LTE band 5.

ChazzMatt said:
Droid Turbo XT1254 does not have all the AT&T LTE bands. Has 2, 4, 17 but not LTE band 5 (now used in some locations). Just like it also doesn't have all the T-mobile LTE bands. Doesn't have LTE band 12.
Moto Turbo and Moto Maxx (XT1225) has 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 17 -- ALL the AT&T LTE bands.
That may or may not matter to you, depending on if you need LTE band 5.
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How do you know what bands you need?

ChazzMatt said:
Droid Turbo XT1254 does not have all the AT&T LTE bands. Has 2, 4, 17 but not LTE band 5 (now used in some locations). Just like it also doesn't have all the T-mobile LTE bands. Doesn't have LTE band 12.
Moto Turbo and Moto Maxx (XT1225) has 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 17 -- ALL the AT&T LTE bands.
That may or may not matter to you, depending on if you need LTE band 5.
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How do you know what bands you need?
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There's not an easy answer for that.
This site has some good information, but you have to know how to filter for what you need:
https://www.cellmapper.net/map
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Would be great if there were a USER FRIENDLY LTE bands coverage map, not showing just LTE coverage but also showing which BANDS are being used. I cannot find that anywhere.
The FCC has a resource to show frequencies used by a carrier, but you have to convert that to bands yourself, and it's not user friendly:
https://forums.att.com/t5/Network-Coverage/LTE-bands-and-coverage/td-p/4259614
http://reboot.fcc.gov/reform/systems/spectrum-dashboard
this is about the only way. There are some apps like opensignal you can download to your phone and check the area. I know vermont is all band 5 for the most part. Here in IL I get band 4,5,17 only my 35 min commute to work.
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Open Signal has an app that collects crowd sourced information -- including bands -- but then just displays it as "4G" coverage, again not breaking down which LTE bands are being used in a specific area.
I use LTE Discovery app. It shows me which band I'm on and what the signal strength is. But if my XT1225 didn't already have all the LTE bands for AT&T, how would I know what I am missing?

Yes, you can. I have friends overseas with turbos and they all received lollipop.
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PSA: The Droid Turbo and The AT&T Network

Hello folks,
Recently I entertained the idea of picking up the Droid Turbo and using it on the AT&T network. Everything that I read stated that one could expected to achieve HSPA or HSPA+ at best. I decided to test this and went ahead and dropped $100 down on a used Turbo courtesy of Craigslist. To my surprise, I have been able to achieve the most rock solid and incredibly fast LTE connection! See the image below for proof!
If you have questions, that I may be able to answer, please let me know! With all of this being said, for those considering picking this phone up and using it with AT&T, don't wait any longer. It is awesome!
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not news you can use Droid Turbo on AT&T LTE
iraqmilner said:
Hello folks,
Recently I entertained the idea of picking up the Droid Turbo and using it on the AT&T network.
Everything that I read stated that one could expected to achieve HSPA or HSPA+ at best.
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That's not true and many, many people on here are using AT&T and T-mobile. You did NOT do a lot of reading and research, especially here on XDA! You couldn't have. Many, many people in this forum have been using the Droid Turbo on AT&T and T-mobile since it went on sale in 2014. Any cursory investigation shows LTE bands compatible with SOME of AT&T's bands and ALL of Verizon's LTE phones are network unlocked by order of the FCC.
The Droid Turbo XT1254 has LTE bands 2, 3, 4, 7, 13.
AT&T uses LTE bands 2, 4, 5, 17.
So, of course you can use the Droid Turbo XT1254 on SOME of AT&T's LTE bands. Just not all of them!
Here's a YouTube video from November 2014 (soon after the phone was released):
Droid Turbo working on Sprint, AT&T, T-mobile & more
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDs--1vVuBE
screenshot from that video:
ALSO:
How to Use the Motorola Droid Turbo on Other Carriers (November 2014)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uK5gdPXClUk
How to use the Droid Turbo with any SIM card and GSM network (November 2014)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFZbJWqNRKs
and discussed on XDA a lot. You sure didn't check here!
Any Verizon Turbo users on AT&T?
willwalk93 said:
Well, apparently, it does work with LTE. Also, @ChazzMatt, apparently there is LTE band 2 in Atlanta. I got full LTE signal on W Peachtree today. So that's good news.
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Stanleywinthrop said:
I've been using my droid turbo on Cricket (AT&T MVNO) for several months now. During that time AT&T has been rolling out band 4 in my area, so I've been getting more LTE than I expected on this phone. Unlocking Band 17 would be ideal however.
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Some other threads:
help with a Droid turbo on AT&T
http://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-turbo/help/help-droid-turbo-att-t3315717
[Q] Turbo on AT&T Cricket
http://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-turbo/help/turbo-cricket-t3108577
But it's old news so we don't discuss it much anymore.
The problem you will have is in cities like Atlanta, GA where I live where AT&T uses LTE band 17 a lot. In places like that you will have HSPA/HSPA+. In areas where AT&T uses LTE bands 2 and 4 you will be OK. In northern part of Georgia when I drive to Chattanooga, that's mostly LTE band 4.
AT&T uses LTE band 5 very sparsely, and even then mostly (not always, but mostly) to supplement other LTE bands due to congestion. There are very few standalone AT&T LTE band 5 areas, where other bands are not also in use. So, for AT&T you mostly need a phone with LTE bands 2, 4, 17.
You have a phone -- the Droid Turbo XT1254 -- with two of those bands: LTE bands 2 & 4.
I have the sibling Quark, the Moto XT1225 -- so I have all of AT&T's LTE bands.
Get the LTE Discovery app. It will show you what bands you are using. You'll never see LTE band 17 unless someone figures out a way to unlock LTE bands 5 and 17 on the Droid Turbo XT1254 (theoretically possible since all Quarks have the same hardware and same antennas).
As long as you stay in places AT&T uses LTE bands 2 & 4, you will get LTE. IF you drop down to HSPA, it's probably because you are in an LTE band 17 area or just crappy LTE signal in general.
The XT1225 and XT1254/XT1250 all share LTE bands 2, 3, 4, 7.
The XT1225 additionally has LTE band 5 and 17 (more bands used by AT&T).
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The XT1254/XT1250 instead has LTE band 13 (Verizon LTE band), plus CDMA bands. While it does have some HSPA bands, there's not as many as in the XT1225.
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Bwahahaha! Wow! Thanks for the information, for one. Second, there is a lot of misinformation on the Internet and it requires a filter to determine what is and isn't truth. This thread was to eliminate the need to weed through the nonsense and provide simple to locate information. Last of all, get a life brother and learn some manners. I'm looking right at you!
ChazzMatt said:
That's not true and many, many people on here are using AT&T. You did NOT do a lot of reading and research, especially here on XDA! You couldn't have. Many, many people have been using the Droid Turbo on AT&T since it went on sale in 2014. Any cursory investigation shows LTE bands compatible with SOME of AT&T's bands and ALL of Verizon's LTE phones are network unlocked by order of the FCC.
Here's a YouTube video from 2014
Droid Turbo working on sprint att t-mobile & more
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDs--1vVuBE
and discussed on XDA a lot. You sure didn't check here!
Any Verizon Turbo users on AT&T?
[/B]AT&T uses LTE bands 2, 4, 5, 17.
The Droid Turbo XT1254 has LTE bands 2, 3, 4, 7, 13.
The problem you will have is in cities like Atlanta, GA where I live that use LTE band 17 a lot. In places like that you will have HSPA/HSPA+. In areas where AT&T uses LTE bands 2 and 4 you will be OK. In northern part of Georgia when I drive to Chattanooga, that's mostly LTE band 4.
AT&T uses LTE band 5 very sparsely, and even then mostly (not always but mostly) to supplement other LTE bands due to congestion.
Get the LTE Discovery app. It will show you what bands you are using. As long as you stay in places AT&T uses LTE bands 2 & 4, you will get LTE. IF you drop down to HSPA, it's probably because you are in an LTE band 17 area.
One guy @willwalk93 who lives in Atlanta like me was very happy initially, then said he sure wished he could "unlock" LTE band 17 (since all the Quarks share the same hardware and same antenna). I have the sibling Quark, the Moto XT1225 so I have all of AT&T's LTE bands.
The XT1225 and XT1254/XT1250 all share LTE bands 2, 3, 4, 7.
The XT1225 additionally has LTE band 5 and 17 (more bands used by AT&T).
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The XT1254/XT1250 instead has LTE band 13 (Verizon LTE band), plus CDMA bands. While it does have some HSPA bands, there's not as many as in the XT1225.
FCC ID IHDT56PK1
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iraqmilner said:
Bwahahaha! Wow! Thanks for the information, for one. Second, there is a lot of misinformation on the Internet and it requires a filter to determine what is and isn't truth. This thread was to eliminate the need to weed through the nonsense and provide simple to locate information.
Last of all, get a life brother and learn some manners. I'm looking right at you!
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And I'm looking right at you! You posted in a forum that had all the information you needed and didn't even look.
Go back and post on any sites where you found misinformation, because it sure wasn't here.

ChazzMatt said:
And I'm looking right at you! You posed in a forum that had all the information you needed and didn't even look.
Go back and post on the sites where you found misinformation, because it wasn't here.
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XDA is great! No doubt about it. I wasn't implying that it is anything but. Just providing information in an easier to find capacity. Have a good day!

Hi there. Is there any possibility to use Droid Turbo on RingPlus (Sprint MVNO). CDMA would be enough for me.