S-Pen removal trigger misfiring - T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I am having a hardware issue with my phone. I was wondering if there might be a software work-around to it. The sensor that detects the removal of my s-pen fires off randomly. I've set all of the settings so nothing happens (no air command, no vibration or noise) when these misfires happen, but it still wakes up the phone randomly. The misfires do not happen when the pen is removed. I tried a new pen but that didn't help - so the issue is on the phone.
So, I was wondering if there is some software solution that will trick the phone into thinking that the pen is always out - basically disable the signal from the sensor. I opened the phone and I found the magnetic sensor that triggers this but I really don't want to remove or replace it. It would be hard if not impossible since it's right on the board. I know this is an odd problem and I've not seen any reports of anything similar, but I was hoping that there might be some ideas out there. Thanks for your help!
PS: My note 4 is rooted.

drklaw said:
I am having a hardware issue with my phone. I was wondering if there might be a software work-around to it. The sensor that detects the removal of my s-pen fires off randomly. I've set all of the settings so nothing happens (no air command, no vibration or noise) when these misfires happen, but it still wakes up the phone randomly. The misfires do not happen when the pen is removed. I tried a new pen but that didn't help - so the issue is on the phone.
So, I was wondering if there is some software solution that will trick the phone into thinking that the pen is always out - basically disable the signal from the sensor. I opened the phone and I found the magnetic sensor that triggers this but I really don't want to remove or replace it. It would be hard if not impossible since it's right on the board. I know this is an odd problem and I've not seen any reports of anything similar, but I was hoping that there might be some ideas out there. Thanks for your help!
PS: My note 4 is rooted.
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Flash cyanogen based roms like cm12.cm13.resurrection remix
This roms are stock android like nexus phones and actually spen dosent works except with 3rd party apps.the spen detects aircommand only with touchwiz roms. so you dont have to worry if the pen is in or out it wont detect.if Hope that helps

Trex888 said:
Flash cyanogen based roms like cm12.cm13.resurrection remix
This roms are stock android like nexus phones and actually spen dosent works except with 3rd party apps.the spen detects aircommand only with touchwiz roms. so you dont have to worry if the pen is in or out it wont detect.if Hope that helps
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Thanks. I think I fixed it. I had replaced my screen some time ago. The adhesive had become undone and it was pulling away from the board. I opened it up and glued it down. Seems to have worked.

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Broken spen?

Hi,
I've started to notice that my spen doesn't seem to be working anymore. I never want first day that it is very difficult to use the pen for taking notes, drawing, etc. Wasn't dropped or anything like that, it just seems to of degraded over time.
I've tried it on stock market rom and cm9 and having the same problem. When I checked the pen on stock rom, by showing pen location on screen, it shows it (both when touching and above the screen), so it is being sensed.
Finger touch works fine so I think the digitizer works well. I also have a screen protector on, but I've tried taking it off and having the same issue.
Does anyone have the same problem?
Also, is there a way of increasing the sensitivity to the pen to see if that improves the problem.
Cheers,
Sent from my GT-N7000 using xda premium
I guess it must be due to minir wear-n-tear . You may try to OPEN and RESET at respective parts of your SPen.
I had posted a thread titled "Anatomy of SPen" on this forum, which might help you understand how to open and reset it.

Touch Screen Issues

I've started to have touch screen issues the past few days.
Any idea what may cause it?
Sometimes, when I touch the screen, say in settings, I touch one item, but a different item is selected somewhere randomly on the screen.
Happens in TWRP as well. If I select options to wipe, it will select others, and then it doesn't swipe over to execute the action.
No ideas? What would make touches appear where I don't touch, even on TWRP?
I tried the keyboard calibration on HTC's keyboard.
Any ideas? Screen protector?
It comes and goes.
I can't believe no one else is having this issue now.
I don't do stupid things with my phone, like drop it, put it in my pocket and sit on it, and wash it with soap and water.
Since I've started running Lollipop, it appears that my case is causing this issue. I've never had this problem before.
However, I updated my wife's phone to Lollipop Sense and now she is having the same issues with a different case.
Take the cases off, and they work more responsively.
I can only chalk this up to being a Lollipop issue, and hope it will be fixed soon.
mcwups1 said:
I can't believe no one else is having this issue now.
I don't do stupid things with my phone, like drop it, put it in my pocket and sit on it, and wash it with soap and water.
Since I've started running Lollipop, it appears that my case is causing this issue. I've never had this problem before.
However, I updated my wife's phone to Lollipop Sense and now she is having the same issues with a different case.
Take the cases off, and they work more responsively.
I can only chalk this up to being a Lollipop issue, and hope it will be fixed soon.
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I opened another thread about a similar issue I'm having after Lollipop. My gesture launch randomly stops working and I have to reboot. No other issues for me though. I have an anti-glare screen protector on mine, but had no issues before the update. I've thought about a factory reset to see if that would cure what ails.
I'm on tmo but have the same exact issues. This is what i've found so far...
I turned on the developer options and turned on show pointer. This will show you where the touches are landing.
If you scroll down slowly, you can see most of the touches are in line (up and down) and not random on the screen.
I've removed all programs that have screen overlays (screen filter, twilight etc)
I've removed the cases thinking they might be causing the issue, but removing them only slightly improved the issue I thought...
Sometimes its hard to reproduce the effect, its not consistent. So this leads me to believe that it could be a process that's running in the background that calls attention at the moment you're touching the screen, and then refocuses the screen to your point of contact. And in between it thinks you're moving your finger when you really aren't.
In any event, I can't find the exact cause of this. But, it definitely started after the update to lollipop. I had none of these issues before. I even got the phone exchanged because I believed the digitizer went bad or something. But this issue exists on my original phone, its replacement, and now on my wife's current phone and that phones replacement (across 4 phones).
I'm currently working on my wife's replacement (4 or 5 non-oem programs installed) and continue to have the problem. But it is not consistent as I can't readily reproduce it.
What i've done to try and learn more is when I see the screen pointer light up in random places, I keep pressure on the screen so I can observe where the screen is registering contact. It almost looks as if it's trying to pull down the shade. Whether it be because of the dual points of contact and it thinks we're swiping down, or because of another program that is stealing focus for whatever reason.
If anyone else has insights into this, please let us know as this is more than frustrating! I keep calling people in hanouts with a lot of people and they aren't happy about it lol.
Also for reference, we're using ADW ex launcher instead of Stock HTC Sense. But even when I remove ADW (uninstall) and run sense, it continues to happen. So it's not that.

Spen problems

Anyone else experiencing spen glitchy behavior? Example I'll be hovering the pen over the screen and it'll scroll or select things without me touching the screen and sometimes it won't register the spen touching the screen when I actually try to scroll, or I'll use the square app at work and when my clients need to sign the screen it'll register the pen before even touching the screen. I really like the spen feature but at this point it's too unreliable to even use, is this normal behavior? My wife's note 8 exhibits the same behavior. Tmo note 8 and we both factory restored before setting up and did clean install no transfer data crap.
do you have a screen protector ?
No not me works great and I use my Spen everyday.
L1N3B3CK said:
do you have a screen protector ?
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No I do not, my finger touches are fine, it's only when I use the spen does it act glitchy, do you think it's defective?
No issues with mine on Verizon, with a screen protector.
Shuthefrontdoor said:
Anyone else experiencing spen glitchy behavior? Example I'll be hovering the pen over the screen and it'll scroll or select things without me touching the screen and sometimes it won't register the spen touching the screen when I actually try to scroll, or I'll use the square app at work and when my clients need to sign the screen it'll register the pen before even touching the screen. I really like the spen feature but at this point it's too unreliable to even use, is this normal behavior? My wife's note 8 exhibits the same behavior. Tmo note 8 and we both factory restored before setting up and did clean install no transfer data crap.
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Are you using a case with a magnetic kick stand?
My guess is yes.. can't use that with the Note's digitizer as the S-pen tech is magnetic based
If this is not the case (pun intended) then you probably have a faulty S-pen or Digitizer
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do you have a screen protector ?
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ingenious247 said:
Are you using a case with a magnetic kick stand?
My guess is yes.. can't use that with the Note's digitizer as the S-pen tech is magnetic based
If this is not the case (pun intended) then you probably have a faulty S-pen or Digitizer
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No just a regular super slim case, it's so annyoing as it only exhibits the problem sometimes not always , I guess I'll have to take it back
You're not using a magnetic car mount either, right?
Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk
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do you have a screen protector ?
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ingenious247 said:
Are you using a case with a magnetic kick stand?
My guess is yes.. can't use that with the Note's digitizer as the S-pen tech is magnetic based
If this is not the case (pun intended) then you probably have a faulty S-pen or Digitizer
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ingenious247 said:
You're not using a magnetic car mount either, right?
Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk
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I do in the car but I noticed this issue immediately after first spen use and I didn't have a magnetic car mount yet, so I don't think they are related and I don't use the spen when I'm in the car
Some of the Same
I also absolutely love the S Pen and I've had the note line for years. This time around with the Note 8 I'm experiencing a weird glitch that's happening with Google products ie Google Chrome Google app Google Maps. Especially when I use the Google app to read different articles. When I open the articles it will literally freeze and not recognize any touch. However if I open that article with my finger and scrolled just a little bit with my finger then I don't suffer the same problem but if I initiate scrolling with the S Pen it freezes every time. This is really frustrating to the point where I have to force close the app to get it to respond at all.... Google and Samsung please figure this out!!!! It really is maddening!!!
At least Spen works with no issue on my phone. I use it pretty often for making notes and also I found it faster and convenient to write in chat messages..
Try changing the nib. I had similar problems which seem to have gone after a nib change, maybe coincidental.
No problem on mine at all. See if you can borrow spen from somebody and test with different pen maybe? Also I would reset the phone and test again, before sending it back.
I exchanged the phone and so far it's been good, fingers crossed
Are you maybe triggering some of the events and tools that the S-pen does without touching the screen? One place this first "caught" me off guard was reading email. When you hover just of the screen it gives you choices and can do actions. There are also scroll choices in Chrome that fire up by hovering.
Just to make sure, I suggest watching
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If it isn't behaving like in the video and you know you aren't triggering hover events, then I would definitely get it replaced.
I can't understand why third party case makers continue making cases with magnets in them for our Note series. It usually causes issues with the S-Pen. Like, a foldable stand can just be designed to "click" in place when not in use. You don't need a magnet for that. And for the wallet type cases they can just use velcro or something to clip it back into place without a magnet.
Any update? I also sent my phone in for repair of a similar issue and when I got it back, it seems like nothing was fixed. Samsung wrote that they "replaced cosmetic" whatever that means?
I had a similar issue with my note 7, as the recall started and I refused to surrender my note7, claiming warranty was not an option, I bought a spen, and, that solved it, to this day works fine, in this case with a note 8, you must go and claim warranty or, try with some one else's spen to sort the problem out
Thanks for the reply. Unfortunately in my case it seems like the s pen is not the issue. I've gone into a Best Buy and used their pen and I still encounter the same issue :/
DrIzzLe85 said:
I also absolutely love the S Pen and I've had the note line for years. This time around with the Note 8 I'm experiencing a weird glitch that's happening with Google products ie Google Chrome Google app Google Maps. Especially when I use the Google app to read different articles. When I open the articles it will literally freeze and not recognize any touch. However if I open that article with my finger and scrolled just a little bit with my finger then I don't suffer the same problem but if I initiate scrolling with the S Pen it freezes every time. This is really frustrating to the point where I have to force close the app to get it to respond at all.... Google and Samsung please figure this out!!!! It really is maddening!!!
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I had the same problem when searching with Google and the result was shown in Chrome. Using the SPen and the site hang. Using my finger no problem. I then changed from Samsung Internet Browser to Chrome as default browser. The problem was gone.

Multitouch with +5 fingers

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This is what happens https://imgflip.com/gif/1xvxm0
What can be the cause of this? Does this happen to any of you as well? Should i open the casing and see if there is anything touching the metal casing that should not ?
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I have been testing with both
Settings -> Developer Options - > Show Pointers (and looking at the top left that says x/x points)
or
Using a multitouch test app like so https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.the511plus.MultiTouchTester
The latter is nice because it has big handlers and you can clearly see the point/touch flickering like loosing and creating point (hence creating a new point ID)
From what i can say in Marshmallow it worked way better, on the last 2 Nougat updates i saw that at the 7th point it started to do the flickering and with this one it starts at the 5th point.
With 3 fingers screenshot disabled (and all the gestures for that matter) as i know it would create a conflict.
Just tested in a Motorola with Marshmallow and it created the 10 points flawlessly.
I wonder if any of you noticed the same or is something off with my touchscreen?
Might it be a Nougat thing ?
Any known solutions?
I searched around and nothing Nougat related seem to pop up
Just tested with both OP2 and a Moto G5 and they both work great, actually it even worked great on my Samsung Galaxy i9000
I have noticed that for the last 2 updates or so multitouch capability has been decreasing.
When are you ever going to use ten fingers to multitask? If it wasn't for the screenshot gesture, we wouldn't even be using three.
JarJarWinks said:
When are you ever going to use ten fingers to multitask? If it wasn't for the screenshot gesture, we wouldn't even be using three.
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That is irrelevant for what i am trying to figure out, what i want to know is if it is a HW problem by default or just my HW is faulty or even if it is a Nougat problem.
It works flawlessly on other less capable phones
Either software or hardware fault I would say. I just tried it out without any flickering with 10 fingers on my 3t running latest unofficial LineageOS 15/Oreo ROM.
pitrus- said:
Either software or hardware fault I would say. I just tried it out without any flickering with 10 fingers on my 3t running latest unofficial LineageOS 15/Oreo ROM.
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Thank you, from what i get so far is a Nougat thing, all the users that have Oreo seems to work fine
Conductive electricity ?
Ok some pretty strange updates...
I accidentally tested it on a metal table and it worked perfectly, which lead me to think that it might be due to conductive energy or something.
So i tried the test on a wooden table and it does flicker and loose touches, so i pressed with a finger on a metal part of the OP3T casing and the points are registered properly.
I had made a video so people don't think i am crazy here is the result https://imgflip.com/gif/1xvxm0 at this point i can say that is directly related.
What can be the cause of this? Does this happen to any of you as well? Should i open the casing and see if there is anything touching the metal casing that should not ?
anyone ?
This is a non issue honestly. If it doesn't change how your phone functions in day to day practical use, you probably shouldn't bother with something like that. The touch display functionally is fantastic especially the screen colors and with the recently fixed touch latency it does happen to be one of the best screens on the market despite its lower resolution. Factually you won't use more than a three touch input so. IMHO
nagi_007pk said:
This is a non issue honestly. If it doesn't change how your phone functions in day to day practical use, you probably shouldn't bother with something like that. The touch display functionally is fantastic especially the screen colors and with the recently fixed touch latency it does happen to be one of the best screens on the market despite its lower resolution. Factually you won't use more than a three touch input so. IMHO
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It is definitely a problem did you watched the video ? because it seems like a real hard problem to me, use cases for you might be different from others. My old samsung galaxy i9000 as well as my OP2 did not had that problem
It may be a problem for one and may not be a problem in another's eyes.
To address your issue, have you tried switching ROM's? I don't think it could be a Nougat problem, but you might as well try Oreo or even MM.
This may sound funny, but have you tried with another person's fingers?
thes3usa said:
It may be a problem for one and may not be a problem in another's eyes.
To address your issue, have you tried switching ROM's? I don't think it could be a Nougat problem, but you might as well try Oreo or even MM.
This may sound funny, but have you tried with another person's fingers?
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I had the feeling that it might be from the updates (still using official OP updates) but right now i think it might be hardware. Yes i tried with other fingers, thinking about opening the phone to see if there is something touching the metal case inside.

P20 Pro: Random ghost movements after every restart?

After just having received the Android Pie 9.0 update yesterday, I still have the same issues as since I bought this phone:
Being that after a restart the phone is unusable, as it starts doing whatever it wants, as if there were shadow presses and swipes on the display.
These totally random, involuntary movements, as if I were touching the screen, even though I don't. Those occur so fast that I can only stop it (for a limited time) by pressing the power button (turning off the display and all actions), are totally not something I have ever experienced on another phone before, not even with OnePlus.
I took my case off just in case this would cause pressure on the phone, but it still happens without the case. I propped the phone up so that I definitely don't touch or cover any sensors, but it still happens.
It seems some internal sensor is broken, as this issue still persists after updating to Android 9.0. Unless this might be related to the Nova launcher?
Unfortunately I don't see a way of recording this issue without compromising my personal information, so I can only describe it.
I hope I can resolve this through a device swap through my carrier, but I doubt it. Has anyone else experienced this issue?
knowledgeworker said:
After just having received the Android Pie 9.0 update yesterday, I still have the same issues as since I bought this phone:
Being that after a restart the phone is unusable, as it starts doing whatever it wants, as if there were shadow presses and swipes on the display.
These totally random, involuntary movements, as if I were touching the screen, even though I don't. Those occur so fast that I can only stop it (for a limited time) by pressing the power button (turning off the display and all actions), are totally not something I have ever experienced on another phone before, not even with OnePlus.
I took my case off just in case this would cause pressure on the phone, but it still happens without the case. I propped the phone up so that I definitely don't touch or cover any sensors, but it still happens.
It seems some internal sensor is broken, as this issue still persists after updating to Android 9.0. Unless this might be related to the Nova launcher?
Unfortunately I don't see a way of recording this issue without compromising my personal information, so I can only describe it.
I hope I can resolve this through a device swap through my carrier, but I doubt it. Has anyone else experienced this issue?
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Is there a third-party one-button lock screen app installed on your phone? There may be conflicts.
bobo have a dream said:
Is there a third-party one-button lock screen app installed on your phone? There may be conflicts.
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No, there is no necessity for this.
In the fact issue occurs also in Safe Mode as well as after cleaning the system cache (wiped through the menu which is available for soft reset / wiping all data).
The issue got only more and more severe this week and sometimes temporarily froze the screen / inputs and did lead to error messages on the camera app, making it impossible to take photos temporarily.
Huawei referred me to a local repair shop and I will hand in the phone for repair by early next week, once I have organised a replacement phone.
knowledgeworker said:
No, there is no necessity for this.
In the fact issue occurs also in Safe Mode as well as after cleaning the system cache (wiped through the menu which is available for soft reset / wiping all data).
The issue got only more and more severe this week and sometimes temporarily froze the screen / inputs and did lead to error messages on the camera app, making it impossible to take photos temporarily.
Huawei referred me to a local repair shop and I will hand in the phone for repair by early next week, once I have organised a replacement phone.
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Good luck!

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